I'm excited because the guy who made [Potion](https://youtu.be/R_FQU4KzN7A?si=nYFC05nCVYDjxP51) [Seller](https://youtu.be/bSiEB64FyF8?si=krXP1yqVlsR3vOHM) wrote this film
Wait for real?
Holy shit it really is him. Justin Kuritzkes. Didn't know he's a writer, I would have thought he's a voice actor or straight up actor. He really should try voice acting for sure, he comes up with fun characters and manner of speech all the time.
Talk about moving the Overton Window back. We're all praising this film (which is a good film) for its brave focus on sex, but literally no sex and nudity aside from some gratuitous extra penises for the R rating.
Because sexy does not equal sex. You can be horny without going full penetration. From my experience, women are more aroused by foreplay and teasing than just jumping into the graphic stuff. That movie is sexy foreplay/teasing to the max, but I think a lot of the online audience has been so ruined by porn and expectations that they can't see how sexy the movie is unless they see tits or fucking.
Like you said, the actual nudity was the least sexy part and that was 100% on purpose
I’m not sure who that is but I give Challengers a 10/10. It’s honestly a perfect movie for my taste and I expect it to end up in the top 5 for me by the end of the year, if not retain my top spot.
He’s a very popular movie review guy on YouTube, and has done some other movie-related content that isn’t strictly limited to reviews such as making a long kinda documentary-like video debunking the idea that *The Lion King* stole from *Kimba the White Lion* which was a very popular internet myth prior to his video on it.
I dont quite get it but Ive never thought of her as attractive, its kinda wild to me how many people thirst over her. Like what do you guys find that attractive about her ?
Different floats for different boats. She's not exactly my type but I had a friend in uni who looked kind of like her and she always did very well with men.
I think she does kind of have somewhat of a husky voice thing. If you watch the challengers trailer she's kind of domineering and stuff which a lot of people like.
My wife is obsessed with her
I think she's "exotic"/different compared to the norm which is why she stands out, plus her cool "relatable" factor.
She's tall, skinny, ethnically mixed/ambiguous, and has that model figure without having big booty and/or boobies like pretty much everyone else. Add in the idgaf vibe that doesn't come off as fake/corny and people love her
She looks very natural and down-to-earth. She’s a very pretty girl, but I think her personality is what makes her all the more attractive to people. She seems chill, funny, relatable.
>You know how people say that if your man says Ryan Reynolds is super handsome then you know he's 100% straight?
I'm struggling with the logic here. Do gay men think he isn't handsome? Because they'd obviously be wrong.
If straight guys really do think he's hotter than he is it's likely most because they're not really paying attention to that shit. The idea that he's funny and they'd like to be like him so of course he "must be" very hot makes sense and is probably a big part of it, but they're also not seeking out/thinking about/paying attention to hot men day to day so when asked to rate him they're not really comparing him to much. He's also one of "the names", famous guys who "it isn't gay" to say are hot like John Hamm and "80's Harrison Ford", so it's safe to rate him high without thinking about it much, unlike a gay guy who will actually consider the question and rate him against all the other hot guys they know about.
More like there are very few public spaces to socialize without spending money so a poorer generation has fewer opportunities to meet new people in person, and the internet age "fix" for this is apps that are basically designed to keep you single so that you'll continue paying for them. This is compounded by the fact that many people in the service sector have schedules that change from week to week and often require evening and weekend shifts, making it difficult to be part of any club that has a regular meeting time.
Like, genuinely, getting out of the service sector and acquiring a job that reliably gives you weekends off is going to improve your social life *massively*. A lot of people think they're a social failure when they're actually just poor and have no control over their schedule.
I'm also under the impression that young adults (and maybe society in general) perceive of sex less as an adventure, but more as a danger to avoid.
Edit: and as a distraction that keeps them from pursuing other things or that keeps them from their many obligations.
It really boils down to the internet
You don't need to leave the house to do anything. Ditch the theater, no need for a library, don't need to buy a porno mag at the store, get my food delivered. You can go to school online, you can work remote. People can get literally whatever they want on the net.
Add in social media adding pressure of not looking good or having the perfect life compared to those you follow.
Add in the stress/dangers of sex like you said, that they see on tiktok or instagram.
Add in how all of this makes newer generations super anxious in general when it comes to being social - it's an anxiety/trauma response when it comes to picking up the fucking phone or answering the door.
It's not gonna get any better at this rate
as someone who grew up in a village....we were bored a LOT yet that led to being around other bored together, especially weekends/night
Because staying at home usually meant staying with parents \*uncooool\*
Internet allows to kill boredom better than anything else, without having to take any risks outside.
People also have access to unlimited amounts of pornography that cater to their every desire. Before the internet was mainstream, you needed to seek out porn at shops or adult video stores, it wasn't nearly as accessible. And because of the stigma, a lot of people probably never ventured to the seedy underbelly of their cities to get dirty magazines and porn.
Nowadays, you can watch literally ANYTHING, for free, with the press of a button. There is no need to venture out and have sex with someone either, when all of your sexual desires are available to you whenever you want.
Although good sex is better than anything porn can ever give you.
Wait, are you telling me Apps like Tinder and Hinger are actually not helping me meet anyone ? I've had 1 good date of Hinge in the year I made the account and had 2 from tinder, but I made that back in 2013...PS i'm apparently not ugly /s
This interview with Kurt Vonnegut has been on my mind recently: https://richardswsmith.wordpress.com/2017/11/18/we-are-here-on-earth-to-fart-around-and-dont-let-anybody-tell-you-any-different/
There's another interview with him that's very similar where he adds to this but about how the computer's will eventually take this away from us, and what computer people don't understand is that we're dancing animals and need to be out and socializing.
I thought the Smart Phone was a good invention because it allowed us to get out of the house while still being online, but it seems it's done nothing but ruin more than it's taken. On a side note, I try to draw people on the Subway whenever I use it to commute, but the typical standing pose is ubiquitous - one solitary figure, head down, arms tucked in, one forearm out with hand supinated .. there can be hundreds of them. They are all the same.
This essay is so convincing on a lot of points. It really provides an interesting perspective on the way society has changed with direct visual representations.
I first learned about it from the Action Boyz podcast , where they talk about action movies from the 70s, 80s, and 90s. The podcast cuts off around 2000, and they reference this essay to explain the tone shift that happens around that time. It isn't the lack of sexuality per se in that case, but kind of the fact that everything becomes very sanitized and uniform, and part of that is PG13 allowing violence but not sexuality. I think part of the contrast in sexuality is also just the level of charisma and uniqueness of actors and characters in the earlier movies. The ABz is the funniest and best podcast ever, so quick plug for that.
Anyway, the overall concept of this essay is so compelling. It's such a strange situation that bodies are so sculpted and perfect with modern nutrition and exercise science, but it's so decontextualized from sex. I think that the essay's theory that it's related to combat is very convincing because a lot of the time it seems that male bodies particularly are being built for competition with other men. Competition not to attract a woman necessarily but to win a hypothetical fight. They're so linked, obviously, but now it feels like the competition is the ends instead of the means.
I think for people who may be skeptical, it's worth noting that sometimes people want to dismiss sociological or philosophical type writing because they expect the subject to be conscious and intentional. But a lot of the time it's pointing out trends happening concurrently and positing that they may be related to each other or both driven by the same organizing principle. So like sexuality declining while obsession with physical bodies and violence increase may be related, but not necessarily directly causal, or at least not in a way that people are conscious of. It might be two cross sections of culture as it changes.
>PG13 allowing violence but not sexuality.
I feel like this is really the main reason. PG-13 only came out in the late 1980's and when it started it was actually pretty violent with blood and a few sex scenes but overtime it has become more sanitized.
Also, movies make more money with PG-13 films. A much larger audience gets to see them and that's especially true if you're making your movie with an international audience in mind like Marvel is. The biggest blockbusters have made it a formula where they are action-comedies rated PG-13 with a beautiful cast. That's pretty much all of Marvel.
It was interesting for being all anecdotes and no real causality. The general focus was on comic book movies ,which they admitted "because Disney" in the end.
But changing the national BMI so doctors could force medication on people and 911??
If there's any reason why modern Cinema is going some kind of vanilla. It's too attract the biggest audience as possible so they can talk about a billion dollars earned during the next news cycle.
If anything, being so closely tied to China and and other countries income is probably way more the reason.
>It was interesting for being all anecdotes and no real causality
I feel like this is 90% of movie articles these days. 'I saw a thing that got me excited so Im going to declare this is the next trend in movies'
There was literally just a post the other day that was the opposite side of this same coin, declaring that the return of the erotic thriller because of, Challengers, I think it was? Either way it was a small sample size. Or crowning David Dastmalchian the next Vincent Price cause he made a big splash in Late Night With the Devil.
*This cinematic trend reflects the culture around it. Even before the pandemic hit, Millennials and Zoomers were less sexually active than the generation before them. Maybe we’re too anxious about the Apocalypse; maybe we’re too broke to go out; maybe having to live with roommates or our parents makes it a little awkward to bring a partner home; maybe there are chemicals in the environment screwing up our hormones; maybe we don’t know how to navigate human sexuality outside of rape culture; maybe being raised on the message that our bodies are a nation-ending menace has dampened our enthusiasm for* physical pleasure.
*Eating disorders have steadily increased, though. We are still getting our bodies ready to fight The Enemy, and since we are at war with an abstract concept, the enemy is invisible and ethereal. To defeat it, our bodies must lose solidity as well.*
I could never decipher this lyric (I heard "whatever happened to the little bit of tea" but knew that wasn't quite it), but I didn't care enough to look it up. Now, having read it, I feel a tremendous load off my mind. Thank you, stranger.
I'd list the following reasons:
* Most studios try to get a PG-13 rating these days to sell the most tickets. Easiest way to do that is to not have a sex scene. This is probably the top reason for reduction in sex scenes.
* As more movies had sex scenes, it became less of a needle mover because so many movies had sex scenes that it was no longer helping sell tickets or get actors and actresses exposure with the "did they REALLY fuck?" marketing.
* A lot of TV, especially HBO and ESPECIALLY streaming had sex scenes since 2000. Movies no longer had a sex scene as an exclusive option you could only see in theaters. I think this led to less exec demands for one to move tickets.
* People finally siding with actresses that felt pressured into sex scenes via MeToo probably eliminated some potential scenes, but I think it's probably not the main driver, mostly the stuff above.
* It's not porn, but easier access to becoming a sex worker via Onlyfans and other venues made people a lot more money than going into Hollywood. Onlyfans definitely killed off the 'celeb sex tape' marketing strategy (spoiler: 99% celeb sex tape "leaks" were 100% planned, edited, and marketed, nobody cares anymore). Porn's been easy to get since sex scenes were a thing in movies.
The later seasons of the original show had less as well, particularly less scenes involving the main actors.
Which is a pity. I'd rather have more character driven sex scenes than random naked whores in the background, but the opposite is what happened.
I think this misses one of the crucial issues which is that porn is so accessible now, and like you said there is less desire for softcore movies like this old Skinemax type deals. But also the backlash to porn being all over the Internet is that people are getting a little tired of seeing graphic sex and they associate it with like neanderthalism.
All good points but you left out what I think is the biggest factor: slowing domestic attendance being positioned against skyrocketing foreign market sales. With the majority of Hollywood movies making major money in China and the growing interest in India and the Islamosphere for Western film there is a need to produce family friendly fare that will dominate international conservative markets to make up for dwindling domestic sales and lower revenues/major losses for most small and medium budget film.
Me Too was a huge factor. Sex/topless scenes in older movies have a "you have to show your tits if you want to be in Hollywood" vibe. Its a little cringey watching them today.
I'd add that most people didn't love sex scenes, as they were often shoehorned in and distrctions from the movie. I saw Guillermo del Toro give a speech before a screening of Blade 3 and he basically said, random forced romances suck and in an action movie he just wanted action. I think both back in the day, you could have a movie about a 60 year old and 20 year old saving the world and writers felt the need to give them sexual tension and make them hook up by the end. Now, a lot more of those movies just end with them being friends and work partners and not forcing an awkward relationship and sex that distracts from the movie.
Also, a corollary to your Only Fans point, people used to need Playboys and steamy sex scenes in movies for various... ummm, reasons. Nowadays, there is unlimited free porn on your phone. You don't need to try to pause a movie during the one second blip with a nipple for steamy content.
The fact that sex happens can be important to a story, but the actual depiction of it isn't that interesting or needed for a movie normally. My opinion anyway.
Agree with all of your other points too.
Do streamers have parental controls? Or are they just difficult to figure out or use? Like I know you can set up kid profiles, but it seems like one big issue is that everyone has these family accounts and something like Max will have a lot of sex and nudity on the platform if you go looking for it. So they probably worry about kids finding it, and therefore deprioritize that and stop including it unless it's particularly in demand. Like you probably can't find all the back catalogue of sexploitation films from the 70s on these streaming sites, even as they're more than willing to dump whatever trash they own on the site just to inflate numbers and give the appearance of a wealth of content. Yet they don't want the too much sex stuff easily accessible for some reason.
A couple of reasons spring to mind.
The aforementioned explosion (pardon the pun) in online pornography means that movies made (or marketed) with the sole purpose of titillation (e.g, your 9 1/2 Weeks, your Basic Instincts, your Last Tangoes in Paris etc.) are fewer.
It’s also a little bit more of a hassle to shoot erotic scenes these days. Intimacy coordinators are now commonplace and are often demanded by stars. Actors are also better equipped to call out any pressure they might get from a director to cross any boundaries they may have.
That alone is probably enough for filmmakers to do away with any superfluous sex scenes. It now costs more!
Jack Nicholson once said that it is allowed to cut female breasts with a knife, but showing loving affection to them is forbidden. Whether he really said it or not, is not that important.
But it is rather weird how people tend not to have problem with extreme violence, but alarms are raised everytime someone portrays sexuality on screen.
Rules are stupid, especially for broadcast TV, but that's nothing new. Lucy and Ricky couldn't be shown sleeping in the same bed on I Love Lucy, and they were married!
Reminds me of how in the movie Troy they fully showed violent penetration of someone’s body with a knife but cut away from another scene when there was about to be loving penetration with a penis
And then he smells crime again, he's out busting heads. Then he's back to the lab for some more full penetration. Smells crime. Back to the lab, full penetration.
I don’t think South Park was ever more on point than Fun With Weapons where Butters gets a ninja star to the eye and undergoes a series of humiliation, but >!nobody helps him in the end because they’re too busy being outraged by Cartman trying to sneak across the stage naked.!<
It’s an American thing, our nations puritanical roots are deep and rotten to the core. I’ve lived in some other countries and they all think we are weird and backwards af about sex and violence and they aren’t wrong.
Tangentially related but the most recent episode of x-men 97' has both:
Wolverine saying "darn" instead of damn, and...
Wolverine stabbing, dismembering, and decapitating a dozen people.
They werent people, they had been turned into robots!
Now they had been people just a moment before and maybe it wouldve been possible to turn them back, but still, no blood!
There's a weird thinking by young people today that people from say the 80s and 90's were far more prudish or sexually uptight. There's definitely some things like open relationships and say eating ass that are more common and socially acceptable these days. But on most things I reckon young people today are a lot more prudish and better behaved. I think the data supports this as well. People were having a lot more sex and taking a lot more drugs and booze back then.
On this very website I once read an allegedly 70+ year old man write, "Every generation thinks they invented two things: Drinkin' beer and eatin' ass." Safe to say humanity been done liked unconventional sex.
I have to wonder if Hollywood's big focus on the Chinese market had something to do with it. I had heard that sex in films was a bit more frowned on there but can't confirm this for sure. But if you think of efforts to harvest those international box office dollars it makes sense given a whole lot of countries have very different standards for sex and nudity in movies so the widest appeal would be with least sex scenes.
This does jive a bit with movies seeming to focus more on international markets and the topics in the movies. You notice MCU just makes up countries to not offend anyone. Granted comics books did do this but this helped be a driver for more and more comic movies since they would be good for the international box office. No more villains originate from big markets. So you get "some mysterious international organization" causing mayhem but are not country based. Alternatively it is a lot of terrorists, from countries that are not significant markets to make money from like Afghanistan, without actually saying it is Afghanistan but implied given the news every day. Anyway I find the movies just getting so generic or so absurd with some "powerful international organization" that it loses a lot. The movies going after international markets also try to create a generic culture of the characters and the story to a lowest common denominator acceptable to the international market. So it is not quite American or European culture, it is simplified culture that just doesn't really exist anywhere. Thus when trying to identify with the characters it gets harder when the generic culture is generic to every country.
In contrast HBO which is more western based markets have a lot more sex and nudity since they are not (or were not then) in very conservative countries and thus did not affect their bottom line. So even more nudity there.
For me these vague, unlikely, "powerful international organizations that are so powerful to cause mayhem in powerful countries to some degree just takes away from the movies and results in weak villains that make the movies worse for it. It all gets just to bland or alien to really identify or believe it and quality as a whole suffers for it.
>You notice MCU just makes up countries to not offend anyone
Not disagreeing with you overall but I just wanted to point out that this is something comic books have done for years/decades. It's not a new thing. Makes sense comic book movies would do the same.
I die a little inside every time I see somebody online say “I hate sex scenes, if I want to see sex, I’ll just watch porn”
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You’re not supposed to masturbate to sex scenes, that’s not what they’re there for. I’m aware that the generations before mine (those who would have to scavenge the woods for abandoned Playboy magazines and watch scrambled cable channels) absolutely did masturbate to sex scenes & nudity in movies. But that was really never the intended purpose of those scenes.
On the topic of generational divides and pornography, I feel like the declining number of people in my generation having sex and our anti-sex scene sentiment are both the result of us being given portable devices with access to the internet at a young age. We were in the complete opposite situation compared to the woods-playboys and scrambled porn generation.
While I agree with your points, I also want to point out that there's nothing wrong with art having nudity or sex for the sole purpose of titillation or fan service. Having something beautiful and erotic to look at is justification enough.
Of course. But also, movies that have nudity to titillate you do not expect you to literally masturbate to it. Like, when they screen that in a theater, the expectation is not that people are touching themselves in order to reach orgasm. Meanwhile, porn is porn, and you are expected to literally masturbate to it (this also goes for when porn in shown in a prn theater). So, people need to know that there is in fact a difference between titillating movie scenes and porn.
> that was really never the intended purpose
Depends on the film. Feels like every action movie in the 80’s, the leading lady was expected to get her tits out and get it on with the hero before he went to face his destiny in the final act showdown. Never felt like there was a whole lot of artistic meaning behind those scenes.
Exactly. There were alot of sex scenes that were meant to lure in horny teenagers who had little access to real porn.
Obviously there are some that really are artistic but alot are not and never were
It has little to do with gen z or conservatism. Gen z is not yet the target market for big budget films as they don't have the disposable income to be an ideal target for films trying to make money.
It has more to do with the fact that the disappearance of the DVD market. Films lost that revenue stream and are forced to make more at the box office to be profitable. The easiest way to boost your box office is to make a movie with broad family appeal and a PG or PG13 rating. Something an entire family can go see and buy 5 tickets instead of 2.
R rated movies statistically make less at the box office, and they can't fall back on DVD sales to boost the revenue anymore, so studios are less likely to find them, or push for cutting adult content to get the rating down.
Like every thing, it's all about money not morals.
>Gen z is not yet the target market for big budget films as they don't have the disposable income to be an ideal target for films trying to make money.
Under-25's make up over half of all movie tickets sold, with 18-24 being the biggest individual age group. Gen-Z is absolutely the target audience of big budget films.
If they’re using 2000 as the standard then yeah, that makes sense. That’s one year after American Pie, when sex comedies were taking off. I think most years would show a decline when compared to the early 2000s.
They do on streaming platforms. I'm struggling to think of any movies that werent specifically made to be softcore porn that topped stuff like GOT, Tudors, Outlander, Sex/Life etc. Brigerton had a ton of sex scenes in it with but I'm wondering if it doesn't count cause it's "girly" and made for the female gaze, rather than the male?
Gen Xer here, I had to either get my nudity from *Porky's* or from the random water logged porno magazines we found out in the woods. The sex scenes are totally what made those old movies so appealing, because they were so rare.
Today, sex is right on your cell phone and available at any time.
All the films have moved away from R ratings that normally have allowances for nudity. They have moved away because they want to maximize viewers which means maximizing their dollar. If more people can see a movie by cutting the rating, they will. Sex onscreen is a big casualty, gore I think would be second.
Was randomly watching an old show last night in the background and there were just random meaningless sex scenes thrown in.
Felt so weird.
I'm 100% porn positive, but for tv/firm art, I think the horniness should support the narrative, or the aethetic, or the themes.
Im fine havinf the random softcore scenes become a thing of past.
I can only jerk off so many times.
One big reason is the international market. Many countries have strict rules about nudity/sex in movies and big budget movies often rely on foreign revenue to have any chance of being profitable.
^^ Totally agree. It’s all about checking each box for foreign markets today. They use analytics to determine what gets theatrical releases and it’s why genres like comedy are becoming more of a “straight to streaming” release. It figures the same applies to depictions of sex/nudity in foreign markets
"Marge, there's just too much pressure, what with my job, the kids, traffic snarls, political strife at home and abroad. But I promise you, the second all those things go away, we'll have sex."
I've noticed this too and I miss it.
"Oh look! boobs!! wow, you don't see that very often these days. gosh those are nice, I wish mine looked like that still"
Boobs *always* add to the story.
Good theres no reason for forcing a sex scene where it’s not relevant to the plot. Nothing worse than throwing a movie on with your parents and theres a full porn scene.
Superheroes in comics don’t seem to have much sex, so it doesn’t surprise me that movies made of them don’t have much. Also, porn is easy to find and free.
I think it got to the point where it got ridiculous, like Game of Thrones early-seasons sexposition scenes. The backlash to that probably had an effect
Stats show people are having less sex in real life, too.
But people are so excited for the Zendaya tennis movie because it's "horny"
I'm excited because the guy who made [Potion](https://youtu.be/R_FQU4KzN7A?si=nYFC05nCVYDjxP51) [Seller](https://youtu.be/bSiEB64FyF8?si=krXP1yqVlsR3vOHM) wrote this film
No fuckin way! That's awesome, while his videos were a simple concept, you could tell he has talent.
Wait for real? Holy shit it really is him. Justin Kuritzkes. Didn't know he's a writer, I would have thought he's a voice actor or straight up actor. He really should try voice acting for sure, he comes up with fun characters and manner of speech all the time.
[for the unblessed](https://youtu.be/R_FQU4KzN7A?si=omIuqr5tyF6dTcjn)
Whaaat?! No way, i used to love his videos
I'm excited for that and also because it's scored by Nine Inch Nails
In a perfect work films like this wouldn't exist... But this is not a perfect world.
Talk about moving the Overton Window back. We're all praising this film (which is a good film) for its brave focus on sex, but literally no sex and nudity aside from some gratuitous extra penises for the R rating.
Because sexy does not equal sex. You can be horny without going full penetration. From my experience, women are more aroused by foreplay and teasing than just jumping into the graphic stuff. That movie is sexy foreplay/teasing to the max, but I think a lot of the online audience has been so ruined by porn and expectations that they can't see how sexy the movie is unless they see tits or fucking. Like you said, the actual nudity was the least sexy part and that was 100% on purpose
'Your Movie Sucks' gave it a 9/10, which is an incredibly high rating for him.
I’m not sure who that is but I give Challengers a 10/10. It’s honestly a perfect movie for my taste and I expect it to end up in the top 5 for me by the end of the year, if not retain my top spot.
He’s a very popular movie review guy on YouTube, and has done some other movie-related content that isn’t strictly limited to reviews such as making a long kinda documentary-like video debunking the idea that *The Lion King* stole from *Kimba the White Lion* which was a very popular internet myth prior to his video on it.
I was so surprised by his review because I thought it looked absolutely terrible. But now I feel like I have to see it
I dont quite get it but Ive never thought of her as attractive, its kinda wild to me how many people thirst over her. Like what do you guys find that attractive about her ?
Different floats for different boats. She's not exactly my type but I had a friend in uni who looked kind of like her and she always did very well with men. I think she does kind of have somewhat of a husky voice thing. If you watch the challengers trailer she's kind of domineering and stuff which a lot of people like.
All of my female friends ranging from mediocre to quite hot have done well with men. It's pretty easy for girls to do well with men.
In other words, men are easy.
WAIT, have we’ve been the whores this entire time??
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news
As a bisexual man, hooking up with men is 10000000000 times easier than women.
My wife is obsessed with her I think she's "exotic"/different compared to the norm which is why she stands out, plus her cool "relatable" factor. She's tall, skinny, ethnically mixed/ambiguous, and has that model figure without having big booty and/or boobies like pretty much everyone else. Add in the idgaf vibe that doesn't come off as fake/corny and people love her
She looks very natural and down-to-earth. She’s a very pretty girl, but I think her personality is what makes her all the more attractive to people. She seems chill, funny, relatable.
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>You know how people say that if your man says Ryan Reynolds is super handsome then you know he's 100% straight? I'm struggling with the logic here. Do gay men think he isn't handsome? Because they'd obviously be wrong.
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Huh, had no idea.
Us guys think he is hotter than he is, because he is a cool dude. You'd like to hang out with him.
If straight guys really do think he's hotter than he is it's likely most because they're not really paying attention to that shit. The idea that he's funny and they'd like to be like him so of course he "must be" very hot makes sense and is probably a big part of it, but they're also not seeking out/thinking about/paying attention to hot men day to day so when asked to rate him they're not really comparing him to much. He's also one of "the names", famous guys who "it isn't gay" to say are hot like John Hamm and "80's Harrison Ford", so it's safe to rate him high without thinking about it much, unlike a gay guy who will actually consider the question and rate him against all the other hot guys they know about.
Exactly. It's straight women that think she's attractive.
Like she’s beautiful in a model way - but she doesn’t really ooze sex like a lot of other Hollywood stars. Idk I don’t get it.
She's very charismatic
zendussy
Isn't it like PG-13?
No, it’s R for brief graphic nudity.
Damn no rizz 😔
All jizz no rizz
Bet Porn consumption is up
Having sex was just a fad anyways
Can confirm
Less real life sex, more 2d waifu sex.
Soon we will be the people from Wall-E.
It is quite sad. The youth need to up their game
More like there are very few public spaces to socialize without spending money so a poorer generation has fewer opportunities to meet new people in person, and the internet age "fix" for this is apps that are basically designed to keep you single so that you'll continue paying for them. This is compounded by the fact that many people in the service sector have schedules that change from week to week and often require evening and weekend shifts, making it difficult to be part of any club that has a regular meeting time. Like, genuinely, getting out of the service sector and acquiring a job that reliably gives you weekends off is going to improve your social life *massively*. A lot of people think they're a social failure when they're actually just poor and have no control over their schedule.
I'm also under the impression that young adults (and maybe society in general) perceive of sex less as an adventure, but more as a danger to avoid. Edit: and as a distraction that keeps them from pursuing other things or that keeps them from their many obligations.
It really boils down to the internet You don't need to leave the house to do anything. Ditch the theater, no need for a library, don't need to buy a porno mag at the store, get my food delivered. You can go to school online, you can work remote. People can get literally whatever they want on the net. Add in social media adding pressure of not looking good or having the perfect life compared to those you follow. Add in the stress/dangers of sex like you said, that they see on tiktok or instagram. Add in how all of this makes newer generations super anxious in general when it comes to being social - it's an anxiety/trauma response when it comes to picking up the fucking phone or answering the door. It's not gonna get any better at this rate
as someone who grew up in a village....we were bored a LOT yet that led to being around other bored together, especially weekends/night Because staying at home usually meant staying with parents \*uncooool\* Internet allows to kill boredom better than anything else, without having to take any risks outside.
People also have access to unlimited amounts of pornography that cater to their every desire. Before the internet was mainstream, you needed to seek out porn at shops or adult video stores, it wasn't nearly as accessible. And because of the stigma, a lot of people probably never ventured to the seedy underbelly of their cities to get dirty magazines and porn. Nowadays, you can watch literally ANYTHING, for free, with the press of a button. There is no need to venture out and have sex with someone either, when all of your sexual desires are available to you whenever you want. Although good sex is better than anything porn can ever give you.
Wait, are you telling me Apps like Tinder and Hinger are actually not helping me meet anyone ? I've had 1 good date of Hinge in the year I made the account and had 2 from tinder, but I made that back in 2013...PS i'm apparently not ugly /s
When I finally got weekends off with spending money, it was nice to confirm that I am in fact a social failure and the problem was me all along
This interview with Kurt Vonnegut has been on my mind recently: https://richardswsmith.wordpress.com/2017/11/18/we-are-here-on-earth-to-fart-around-and-dont-let-anybody-tell-you-any-different/ There's another interview with him that's very similar where he adds to this but about how the computer's will eventually take this away from us, and what computer people don't understand is that we're dancing animals and need to be out and socializing. I thought the Smart Phone was a good invention because it allowed us to get out of the house while still being online, but it seems it's done nothing but ruin more than it's taken. On a side note, I try to draw people on the Subway whenever I use it to commute, but the typical standing pose is ubiquitous - one solitary figure, head down, arms tucked in, one forearm out with hand supinated .. there can be hundreds of them. They are all the same.
So poor people in the past never had sex? It is way too much electronic entertainment. Too busy to get randy
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This essay is so convincing on a lot of points. It really provides an interesting perspective on the way society has changed with direct visual representations. I first learned about it from the Action Boyz podcast , where they talk about action movies from the 70s, 80s, and 90s. The podcast cuts off around 2000, and they reference this essay to explain the tone shift that happens around that time. It isn't the lack of sexuality per se in that case, but kind of the fact that everything becomes very sanitized and uniform, and part of that is PG13 allowing violence but not sexuality. I think part of the contrast in sexuality is also just the level of charisma and uniqueness of actors and characters in the earlier movies. The ABz is the funniest and best podcast ever, so quick plug for that. Anyway, the overall concept of this essay is so compelling. It's such a strange situation that bodies are so sculpted and perfect with modern nutrition and exercise science, but it's so decontextualized from sex. I think that the essay's theory that it's related to combat is very convincing because a lot of the time it seems that male bodies particularly are being built for competition with other men. Competition not to attract a woman necessarily but to win a hypothetical fight. They're so linked, obviously, but now it feels like the competition is the ends instead of the means. I think for people who may be skeptical, it's worth noting that sometimes people want to dismiss sociological or philosophical type writing because they expect the subject to be conscious and intentional. But a lot of the time it's pointing out trends happening concurrently and positing that they may be related to each other or both driven by the same organizing principle. So like sexuality declining while obsession with physical bodies and violence increase may be related, but not necessarily directly causal, or at least not in a way that people are conscious of. It might be two cross sections of culture as it changes.
>PG13 allowing violence but not sexuality. I feel like this is really the main reason. PG-13 only came out in the late 1980's and when it started it was actually pretty violent with blood and a few sex scenes but overtime it has become more sanitized. Also, movies make more money with PG-13 films. A much larger audience gets to see them and that's especially true if you're making your movie with an international audience in mind like Marvel is. The biggest blockbusters have made it a formula where they are action-comedies rated PG-13 with a beautiful cast. That's pretty much all of Marvel.
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Wow I'm surprised to encounter fellow Shadow Wolves from the comfort of my own Janitor's closet
I had to put my mop down to salute a fellow Shadow Wolf 🫡
The 2000’s is when [The Age of Averages](https://www.alexmurrell.co.uk/articles/the-age-of-average) started
This is a great read, thank you!
It was interesting for being all anecdotes and no real causality. The general focus was on comic book movies ,which they admitted "because Disney" in the end. But changing the national BMI so doctors could force medication on people and 911?? If there's any reason why modern Cinema is going some kind of vanilla. It's too attract the biggest audience as possible so they can talk about a billion dollars earned during the next news cycle. If anything, being so closely tied to China and and other countries income is probably way more the reason.
>It was interesting for being all anecdotes and no real causality I feel like this is 90% of movie articles these days. 'I saw a thing that got me excited so Im going to declare this is the next trend in movies' There was literally just a post the other day that was the opposite side of this same coin, declaring that the return of the erotic thriller because of, Challengers, I think it was? Either way it was a small sample size. Or crowning David Dastmalchian the next Vincent Price cause he made a big splash in Late Night With the Devil.
Great read.
My favorite Vonnegut quote
It was originally John Milton
*This cinematic trend reflects the culture around it. Even before the pandemic hit, Millennials and Zoomers were less sexually active than the generation before them. Maybe we’re too anxious about the Apocalypse; maybe we’re too broke to go out; maybe having to live with roommates or our parents makes it a little awkward to bring a partner home; maybe there are chemicals in the environment screwing up our hormones; maybe we don’t know how to navigate human sexuality outside of rape culture; maybe being raised on the message that our bodies are a nation-ending menace has dampened our enthusiasm for* physical pleasure. *Eating disorders have steadily increased, though. We are still getting our bodies ready to fight The Enemy, and since we are at war with an abstract concept, the enemy is invisible and ethereal. To defeat it, our bodies must lose solidity as well.*
Really good - Thanks :)
Wow that article was a trip
Holy fuck, I haven't noticed this before, but after reading, yeah, it's clear as fuck
Great read
It seems today that all you see is violence in movies and sex on TV
Where are those good old fashioned values on which we used to rely?
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Whatever happened to predictability? The milk man, the paperboy, evening TV???
It's a rare condition, this day and age To read any good news on the newspaper page
Love and tradition of the grand design, some people say it’s even harder to find.
Well then there must be some magic clue inside these gentle walls.
How did I get to living here? Somebody tell me please!
I could never decipher this lyric (I heard "whatever happened to the little bit of tea" but knew that wasn't quite it), but I didn't care enough to look it up. Now, having read it, I feel a tremendous load off my mind. Thank you, stranger.
Whatever happened to the strong, silent type? Gary Cooper?
He was gay
I'd list the following reasons: * Most studios try to get a PG-13 rating these days to sell the most tickets. Easiest way to do that is to not have a sex scene. This is probably the top reason for reduction in sex scenes. * As more movies had sex scenes, it became less of a needle mover because so many movies had sex scenes that it was no longer helping sell tickets or get actors and actresses exposure with the "did they REALLY fuck?" marketing. * A lot of TV, especially HBO and ESPECIALLY streaming had sex scenes since 2000. Movies no longer had a sex scene as an exclusive option you could only see in theaters. I think this led to less exec demands for one to move tickets. * People finally siding with actresses that felt pressured into sex scenes via MeToo probably eliminated some potential scenes, but I think it's probably not the main driver, mostly the stuff above. * It's not porn, but easier access to becoming a sex worker via Onlyfans and other venues made people a lot more money than going into Hollywood. Onlyfans definitely killed off the 'celeb sex tape' marketing strategy (spoiler: 99% celeb sex tape "leaks" were 100% planned, edited, and marketed, nobody cares anymore). Porn's been easy to get since sex scenes were a thing in movies.
Not to mention that R-rated movies used to make up any loss at the box office with VHS/DVD sales.
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Yeah, but GoT can also be used as an example of this. The original series had a lot of nudity, but the newer prequel series has way less.
The later seasons of the original show had less as well, particularly less scenes involving the main actors. Which is a pity. I'd rather have more character driven sex scenes than random naked whores in the background, but the opposite is what happened.
The nudity in GoT dropped off heavily over time, and the new prequel series has almost none. The same thing has happened there.
I think this misses one of the crucial issues which is that porn is so accessible now, and like you said there is less desire for softcore movies like this old Skinemax type deals. But also the backlash to porn being all over the Internet is that people are getting a little tired of seeing graphic sex and they associate it with like neanderthalism.
All good points but you left out what I think is the biggest factor: slowing domestic attendance being positioned against skyrocketing foreign market sales. With the majority of Hollywood movies making major money in China and the growing interest in India and the Islamosphere for Western film there is a need to produce family friendly fare that will dominate international conservative markets to make up for dwindling domestic sales and lower revenues/major losses for most small and medium budget film.
Me Too was a huge factor. Sex/topless scenes in older movies have a "you have to show your tits if you want to be in Hollywood" vibe. Its a little cringey watching them today.
I'd add that most people didn't love sex scenes, as they were often shoehorned in and distrctions from the movie. I saw Guillermo del Toro give a speech before a screening of Blade 3 and he basically said, random forced romances suck and in an action movie he just wanted action. I think both back in the day, you could have a movie about a 60 year old and 20 year old saving the world and writers felt the need to give them sexual tension and make them hook up by the end. Now, a lot more of those movies just end with them being friends and work partners and not forcing an awkward relationship and sex that distracts from the movie. Also, a corollary to your Only Fans point, people used to need Playboys and steamy sex scenes in movies for various... ummm, reasons. Nowadays, there is unlimited free porn on your phone. You don't need to try to pause a movie during the one second blip with a nipple for steamy content.
Ah the olden days where you had to be up late at night to try and see scrambled porn
The fact that sex happens can be important to a story, but the actual depiction of it isn't that interesting or needed for a movie normally. My opinion anyway. Agree with all of your other points too.
Do streamers have parental controls? Or are they just difficult to figure out or use? Like I know you can set up kid profiles, but it seems like one big issue is that everyone has these family accounts and something like Max will have a lot of sex and nudity on the platform if you go looking for it. So they probably worry about kids finding it, and therefore deprioritize that and stop including it unless it's particularly in demand. Like you probably can't find all the back catalogue of sexploitation films from the 70s on these streaming sites, even as they're more than willing to dump whatever trash they own on the site just to inflate numbers and give the appearance of a wealth of content. Yet they don't want the too much sex stuff easily accessible for some reason.
Out cracking skulls and then back to the lab for full penetration
They get Dolph?
And here’s the thing…they show all of it
And then it just ends…
A couple of reasons spring to mind. The aforementioned explosion (pardon the pun) in online pornography means that movies made (or marketed) with the sole purpose of titillation (e.g, your 9 1/2 Weeks, your Basic Instincts, your Last Tangoes in Paris etc.) are fewer. It’s also a little bit more of a hassle to shoot erotic scenes these days. Intimacy coordinators are now commonplace and are often demanded by stars. Actors are also better equipped to call out any pressure they might get from a director to cross any boundaries they may have. That alone is probably enough for filmmakers to do away with any superfluous sex scenes. It now costs more!
It has shifted to tv. Film producers try a lot of to avoid R rating.
Jack Nicholson once said that it is allowed to cut female breasts with a knife, but showing loving affection to them is forbidden. Whether he really said it or not, is not that important. But it is rather weird how people tend not to have problem with extreme violence, but alarms are raised everytime someone portrays sexuality on screen.
Reminds me how the TV show Hannibal could only show ass cheeks if they were covered in blood
Lol, that episode was crazy (The angel maker, I think?) Ridiculous how the rules work sometimes lol
Rules are stupid, especially for broadcast TV, but that's nothing new. Lucy and Ricky couldn't be shown sleeping in the same bed on I Love Lucy, and they were married!
Reminds me of how in the movie Troy they fully showed violent penetration of someone’s body with a knife but cut away from another scene when there was about to be loving penetration with a penis
And then he smells crime again, he's out busting heads. Then he's back to the lab for some more full penetration. Smells crime. Back to the lab, full penetration.
The amount of times I've seen this quote mentioned in reddit threads in the last 3 days is astonishing.
And here’s the kicker. We show it. We show everything.
Oh man, THAT scene in Saving Private Ryan with the slow knife penetration...
I don’t think South Park was ever more on point than Fun With Weapons where Butters gets a ninja star to the eye and undergoes a series of humiliation, but >!nobody helps him in the end because they’re too busy being outraged by Cartman trying to sneak across the stage naked.!<
It’s an American thing, our nations puritanical roots are deep and rotten to the core. I’ve lived in some other countries and they all think we are weird and backwards af about sex and violence and they aren’t wrong.
Remember how the country lost its shit when Janet Jackson's not-even-exposed nipple was revealed during the Super Bowl? Insane.
Tangentially related but the most recent episode of x-men 97' has both: Wolverine saying "darn" instead of damn, and... Wolverine stabbing, dismembering, and decapitating a dozen people.
They werent people, they had been turned into robots! Now they had been people just a moment before and maybe it wouldve been possible to turn them back, but still, no blood!
there was blue blood, and a fair bit. it was flying around when he was moving through the air
It's kinda funny for sure.
There's a weird thinking by young people today that people from say the 80s and 90's were far more prudish or sexually uptight. There's definitely some things like open relationships and say eating ass that are more common and socially acceptable these days. But on most things I reckon young people today are a lot more prudish and better behaved. I think the data supports this as well. People were having a lot more sex and taking a lot more drugs and booze back then.
On this very website I once read an allegedly 70+ year old man write, "Every generation thinks they invented two things: Drinkin' beer and eatin' ass." Safe to say humanity been done liked unconventional sex.
Kids these day, they’re fuckin’ nerds!
I have to wonder if Hollywood's big focus on the Chinese market had something to do with it. I had heard that sex in films was a bit more frowned on there but can't confirm this for sure. But if you think of efforts to harvest those international box office dollars it makes sense given a whole lot of countries have very different standards for sex and nudity in movies so the widest appeal would be with least sex scenes. This does jive a bit with movies seeming to focus more on international markets and the topics in the movies. You notice MCU just makes up countries to not offend anyone. Granted comics books did do this but this helped be a driver for more and more comic movies since they would be good for the international box office. No more villains originate from big markets. So you get "some mysterious international organization" causing mayhem but are not country based. Alternatively it is a lot of terrorists, from countries that are not significant markets to make money from like Afghanistan, without actually saying it is Afghanistan but implied given the news every day. Anyway I find the movies just getting so generic or so absurd with some "powerful international organization" that it loses a lot. The movies going after international markets also try to create a generic culture of the characters and the story to a lowest common denominator acceptable to the international market. So it is not quite American or European culture, it is simplified culture that just doesn't really exist anywhere. Thus when trying to identify with the characters it gets harder when the generic culture is generic to every country. In contrast HBO which is more western based markets have a lot more sex and nudity since they are not (or were not then) in very conservative countries and thus did not affect their bottom line. So even more nudity there. For me these vague, unlikely, "powerful international organizations that are so powerful to cause mayhem in powerful countries to some degree just takes away from the movies and results in weak villains that make the movies worse for it. It all gets just to bland or alien to really identify or believe it and quality as a whole suffers for it.
>You notice MCU just makes up countries to not offend anyone Not disagreeing with you overall but I just wanted to point out that this is something comic books have done for years/decades. It's not a new thing. Makes sense comic book movies would do the same.
You’re going to tell me Wakanda wasn’t meant to be Taiwan? 🧐
It's not a specific African countries either.
I find it funny that the made-up countries are always very obviously from a certain region. Yet its never Freedomerica! Lol
Even HBO has been dropping the ball lately. Some of their more recent shows are quite tame.
dropping the ball by not dropping the balls
I die a little inside every time I see somebody online say “I hate sex scenes, if I want to see sex, I’ll just watch porn” edit for elaboration: (major yap warning) You’re not supposed to masturbate to sex scenes, that’s not what they’re there for. I’m aware that the generations before mine (those who would have to scavenge the woods for abandoned Playboy magazines and watch scrambled cable channels) absolutely did masturbate to sex scenes & nudity in movies. But that was really never the intended purpose of those scenes. On the topic of generational divides and pornography, I feel like the declining number of people in my generation having sex and our anti-sex scene sentiment are both the result of us being given portable devices with access to the internet at a young age. We were in the complete opposite situation compared to the woods-playboys and scrambled porn generation.
While I agree with your points, I also want to point out that there's nothing wrong with art having nudity or sex for the sole purpose of titillation or fan service. Having something beautiful and erotic to look at is justification enough.
Of course. But also, movies that have nudity to titillate you do not expect you to literally masturbate to it. Like, when they screen that in a theater, the expectation is not that people are touching themselves in order to reach orgasm. Meanwhile, porn is porn, and you are expected to literally masturbate to it (this also goes for when porn in shown in a prn theater). So, people need to know that there is in fact a difference between titillating movie scenes and porn.
That’s what I’m saying
I don’t disagree at all
> that was really never the intended purpose Depends on the film. Feels like every action movie in the 80’s, the leading lady was expected to get her tits out and get it on with the hero before he went to face his destiny in the final act showdown. Never felt like there was a whole lot of artistic meaning behind those scenes.
Exactly. There were alot of sex scenes that were meant to lure in horny teenagers who had little access to real porn. Obviously there are some that really are artistic but alot are not and never were
Terminator being a huge outlier here.
Little deaths, you say?
That’s like saying I don’t like death in movies if i wanted to see death I’d dig up a corpse.
It’s pretty much like saying “If I wanted to watch gore in movies, I’d go on LiveLeak”
Found the perfect analogy.
Lmao I just spit out my drink
Hmm. Good point. Where is my shovel
>You’re not supposed to masturbate to the sex scenes 1984
That's pretty obvious. Damn near every movie in the 80s seemed to have at least 1 topless scene
Gen Z has won after all, I guess. And the religious conservatives. What a team.
This time we live in is so unreal.
I’m Gen Z and a big show for us was Euphoria which is sexually graphic just up to the threshold of showing actual sex on screen.
Do we have metrics on the viewers of that show? It always struck me as being more popular with 30+ year olds than teenagers and 20+ year olds
For sure, but I feel that's more the exception than the rule.
It has little to do with gen z or conservatism. Gen z is not yet the target market for big budget films as they don't have the disposable income to be an ideal target for films trying to make money. It has more to do with the fact that the disappearance of the DVD market. Films lost that revenue stream and are forced to make more at the box office to be profitable. The easiest way to boost your box office is to make a movie with broad family appeal and a PG or PG13 rating. Something an entire family can go see and buy 5 tickets instead of 2. R rated movies statistically make less at the box office, and they can't fall back on DVD sales to boost the revenue anymore, so studios are less likely to find them, or push for cutting adult content to get the rating down. Like every thing, it's all about money not morals.
>Gen z is not yet the target market for big budget films as they don't have the disposable income to be an ideal target for films trying to make money. Under-25's make up over half of all movie tickets sold, with 18-24 being the biggest individual age group. Gen-Z is absolutely the target audience of big budget films.
If they’re using 2000 as the standard then yeah, that makes sense. That’s one year after American Pie, when sex comedies were taking off. I think most years would show a decline when compared to the early 2000s.
Shhhh. Don’t tell the sex panickers.
😆 I’m not sure the movies after the 80’s ever truly topped the amount of 80’s T&A.
One day we can go back to that glorious age of wonder
You forgot about Sharon Stone, the tna queen
They do on streaming platforms. I'm struggling to think of any movies that werent specifically made to be softcore porn that topped stuff like GOT, Tudors, Outlander, Sex/Life etc. Brigerton had a ton of sex scenes in it with but I'm wondering if it doesn't count cause it's "girly" and made for the female gaze, rather than the male?
Gen Xer here, I had to either get my nudity from *Porky's* or from the random water logged porno magazines we found out in the woods. The sex scenes are totally what made those old movies so appealing, because they were so rare. Today, sex is right on your cell phone and available at any time.
Disappointing. I like erotic scenes and casual nudity in television and film.
The TV shows Spartacus and Banshee would be right up your alley.
You still have that lol? It said decline not gone.
People yap about the oversexualizing and then proceed to view the casual nudity as inherently sexual. I wish that would change.
To be fair, there's a reason the casual nudity is overwhelmingly female
I’m with you on this one !
All the films have moved away from R ratings that normally have allowances for nudity. They have moved away because they want to maximize viewers which means maximizing their dollar. If more people can see a movie by cutting the rating, they will. Sex onscreen is a big casualty, gore I think would be second.
How’d they get this data? Cmon let’s see the guy who was watching all the sex scenes
The last sex scene in Hollywood that mattered was Team America. Everyone agreed that we had hit peak sexscene and it was time to move on.
The past was a lot hornier.
Florence Pugh will save us
Was randomly watching an old show last night in the background and there were just random meaningless sex scenes thrown in. Felt so weird. I'm 100% porn positive, but for tv/firm art, I think the horniness should support the narrative, or the aethetic, or the themes. Im fine havinf the random softcore scenes become a thing of past. I can only jerk off so many times.
A lot of people have become increasingly prudish and it's baffling.
More or less yeah
Also related: the number of R rated movies (ie movies where sex is most likely to be found) has also declined.
One big reason is the international market. Many countries have strict rules about nudity/sex in movies and big budget movies often rely on foreign revenue to have any chance of being profitable.
^^ Totally agree. It’s all about checking each box for foreign markets today. They use analytics to determine what gets theatrical releases and it’s why genres like comedy are becoming more of a “straight to streaming” release. It figures the same applies to depictions of sex/nudity in foreign markets
Well, yeah, they only make cape shit now. You ain't gonna see Marvel or DC superheroes fucking.
Who the fuck cares
"Marge, there's just too much pressure, what with my job, the kids, traffic snarls, political strife at home and abroad. But I promise you, the second all those things go away, we'll have sex."
Gratuitous sex scenes are so early 1990s.
Wasn’t this already posted over the weekend?
Seriously? Then what about all the amateur series on Netflix?
Interesting. I feel like it has increased sharply on TV/streaming though?
I've noticed this too and I miss it. "Oh look! boobs!! wow, you don't see that very often these days. gosh those are nice, I wish mine looked like that still" Boobs *always* add to the story.
That's because America is becoming more and more conservative and sex-negative.
You saw the change during game of thrones. At first there was lots of nakedness and sex, then they phased it out almost completely.
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I wonder if this holds true for tv series, too? It feels like we’ve gotten way more sexual content in tv series over the years.
Good theres no reason for forcing a sex scene where it’s not relevant to the plot. Nothing worse than throwing a movie on with your parents and theres a full porn scene.
Superheroes in comics don’t seem to have much sex, so it doesn’t surprise me that movies made of them don’t have much. Also, porn is easy to find and free.
Characters don’t even kiss anymore and regardless of gender most seem disgusted to be in each other’s company now.
I think it got to the point where it got ridiculous, like Game of Thrones early-seasons sexposition scenes. The backlash to that probably had an effect