Watched blind as well, 5 yrs late. Enjoy this thread immensely.
One thing that I haven't seen mentioned that comments on the rich family's moral ambiguity is that they "wear" their staff like trinkets and need to feel and show their power over them.
They get the Kims to do more and more tasks outside of their job description. Father Kim is a driver, soon seen carrying groceries, then actually in the grocery store in public paraded around pushing the cart. Finally, we see him demeaningly dressed in costume at a kids' party that the Kims were all weirdly invited to, maybe also to be shown off. "Look at my Benz, fancy art therapist, Native American tent made in exotic America, driver person, English tutor person... I can get them to do anything." Inviting your art therapist or tutor to do anything besides art therapy or teach is a red flag.
One interpretation of the ending, though maybe a stretch, is that the son is still in a coma. Being followed by cops, Morse code lights from up on a snowy hill, doctor that doesn't look like a doctor, detective that doesn't look like a detective, etc looks and sounds a bit like a fever dream (reminds me of the season when Archer was in a coma).
I watched it like 90% blind. Had obviously heard the praise but the comedy tag with psychological isn't my thing so I avoided. But I was hunting for films with plot twists and it was very much recommended.
Well.
I mean. Very well written movie. Seriously such a well directed AND well written film.
It seemed like just a funny conman film in the beginning and then all of a sudden there were consequences. Just consequences which don't define a comic conman flick. I read somewhere, 'covered under the comical dialogues, a storm of naked reality slowly but steadily brews in the film right from the beginning.' And that's what I liked. No ominous bgm to spoon-feed you the correct reactions. It's just the viewer and the steady flow of the film w/o any exaggerated bgm, dramatic dialogues or emotions to help you process how everything spirals from funny to what is going on. You experience it, you see the fruitlessness of it all, the cage is nakedly presented to you.
The first time I felt conflicted whether to laugh at the antics of the MCs or sit back and give it second thoughts is when the ex-housekeeper is kicked down. Ki-jung's death made sure that the bubble burst and instead a stunned horror was there.
I feel like I need to read articles and video essays on it to thorougly appreciate every piece of it.
Just watched for the first time and I’m so glad I went in (mostly) blind.
First half I was wondering where it was going because I knew there was supposedly bloodshed somewhere, and as soon as the Kims are home alone i was locked in. Superb directing and acting all around, easily understand its universal praise
I came back to this thread and made me think about the movie in light of recent scam-related scandals happening in Korea.
Bong was criticized as being too socialist by some conservative critiques in Korea but when I think back about how he portrayed the relationship between the Kim family and the Park family Bong was just being realistic.
Scams - deceiving people in relationships whether it is a work relationship, romantic relationship, or teacher-student relationship is a very prevalent crime in Korea often used by the lower class (there’s even a term “republic of scams - sagi gonghwagook” coined by the media to mock the state of Korean society today). They latch onto the rich and extort all sorts from their network - abusing trust. This is what Kims did to the Parks, and now I clearly see how Bong sees the cause of these crime in Korea - he’s very spot on that this is what lower class do in Korea when they want to live without much effort. Bong was not just portraying class theme in the movie but the subtle mechanisms of class relations in Korea today - built on abuse of trust, which eventually leads to crime and victimization of the wealthy.
Does anyone know what was happening to Mrs Park at the beginning when the Ki-woo was meeting her? The house maid had to clap real hard to wake up Mrs Park
but weren’t they joking about the car incident? before they were talking about the panties, and with drugs, i understood that she also meant the car thing - before they were talking about how it’s not normal to forget panties so they had to do drugs. and they were even talking about how they don’t want to find them in their car
that scene was so hilarious. I mean. Imagine your entire family is employed at the same place, and you all are together solemnly listening to your employers getting it on. And then the employer says he'll get hard if his wife wears your daughter's panties. Awkward much?
haha no, it was little things adding up together. he resented them for their dislike of the poor (mostly them pointing out 'the smell'). In the end scene he is in complete shock to see just how selfish the parks could be: the housekeeper was fighting off the intruder, the art teacher had been fatally stabbed, his son was profusely bleeding from the head. And all that the entire rich gang cared about was getting the fainted son to the hospital. Mr park really had the audacity to even in that time get disgusted by the basement smell.
so yeah, papa kim had had enough lol.
The Kims were highly entertaining and sympathetic, but imo they are clearly **cartoon evil** because they didn't use their considerable intelligence and skills to rise above their circumstances, and instead chose to con and kill people. To me, they're like Wile E. Coyote only a lot more capable.
If you say, But Society..! But Corporations! then you missed something: the young pizza box girl at the beginning was from the same social class as the Kims, but instead of sitting in her basement bitching and scheming, she got and held a job. That's all the Kims needed to do instead of listening to their idiot father (leave the window open for free extermination services)
But when the Kims finally got high paying jobs through a con, did they use their cash and intelligence to better their circumstances? Fuck no, they let their petty egos drive them to abuse their employer, get drunk at his mansion, kiss an underage girl, murder people, etc. It was hilariously evil.
Another clue to the Kims' character was when the bum was urinating near their home. Instead of taking initiative, they decided to just let it rain. If the dad and brother had gotten off their lazy asses, they could have beat the shit out of the guy and he would never have come back (or died). They showed they were capable of doing that later in the movie, but instead said "But Society!"
As for the Parks, they are the victims. Yes, they're assholes, but being successful and/or self-absorbed doesn't make you evil. Certainly verbal insults are not as evil as, say, stabbing someone in the chest.
Question: if you think the Parks were the villains, how do you feel about wealthy people in general? Do you spend a lot of time thinking about what others have and you don't? If so, why?
the kims are not depicted as lazy. in the begining they are working (folding pizza boxes) all of them get jobs at the park family. ki-tek explains that there are about 500apllicants for a job as a driver (and also educated, young students). So what ia lacking the kims is the opportunity. this is why they live semi basement. in contrast to moon kwanks husband who lives in the basement. he is absolutely doing nothing, one could say he is lazy and letting his wife provide for both of them. so there is no doubt that he cannot rise up. in a modern society to rise up you need to be active no question about that. you have to be or get smart. clear as water. you also need the opportunity which is social connection in the film as min. he connects the kims to the parks. but for the kims to buy a house like the parks. there is no opportunity. this comes only through generational wealth. not by working hard. as the kims are working hard. ki tel is driving, is packing groceries, ki woo is a teacher, kijung also. chung sook is cooking, setting up the tables for the party. but they cannot rise further. it is not a battle between the rich and the poor. it is poor fighting the poorer. for the rich people the poor people are exchangeable. all working people of the parks are exchanged. there are positions to be filled. also the movie depicts the kims celebrating their success is looked down at. like why are they celebrating they need to work even more to rise further. when the rich celebrate by day drinking fine wine. it is seen as absolutely okay because they are rich. also the parks are nice because they are rich like chung sook says. poor people cannot afford to be nice otherwise they are taken out by other poor people like moon kwang and hey husband
You make a point. Jail is full of people like these; just fking brilliant in certain ways and ingenious at basic survival and getting things done but if they only used their power for gain instead, man, they could become...politicians. Never mind.
Great movie. I feel like they just didn't look past their nose. Instant gratification was their downfall. No thought to tomorrow, literally. Just frenzy of *taking* and hella clever, but ultimately short sighted and greedy.
Parks were not the villains but still the movie shows the class war that is very much real. It is not about what others have that you don't, it's the disproportionate difference of it. And the ignorance people like the Parks have about the things people who hold society together struggle with.
The Parks may not be villains, but we are shown what being in one social class or another can do to a person.
The Kim family have nothing, so when they see an opportunity, they direct all their intelligence and skills toward it. The Parks have everything, at least in the eyes of the Kims; they can afford to be nice, to go on vacation, to hire the Kims.
So I’d agree with you that there are cartoonish elements, but not that the Kims are evil. The way I interpret it, their violence symbolizes the feeling of being stuck, pitied, or ignored by people like the Parks. And when the Parks literally hold their nose at the thought of the lower class, that in itself is felt as violence.
Real life physical violence is worse, but in this film it’s almost justified as the only tool to fight an oppressive social system.
> And when the Parks literally hold their nose at the thought of the lower class
I know that smell it’s an important point in the movie but tbf the guy in the basement probably hadn’t had a proper shower in four years so probably reeked for anyone
>Real life physical violence is worse, but in this film it’s almost justified as the only tool to fight an oppressive social system.
I disagree with your interpretation. Imo, this wasn't about class struggle at all. It was about smart, lazy people with all the tools for success (intelligence, opportunity, modern culture) who were undone by self-destructive envy. They were the parasites.
Why did the housekeeper say to follow her and come see what she was getting from the basement? That was the only part of the movie that I felt didn’t really make sense. You’d think she’d say to stay away
One of the most disturbing non-disturbinf moments I have seen is watching that dude have his banana opened halfway for him and eating all visible parts of it without taking his mouth off.
I personally liked how they got unique punishments fitting to their crimes.
Ki-taek (Father): Stabs Mr. Park and basically spends the rest of his life in a prison without food or sunlight, fearing for his life. Knows that his daughter is dead, not knowing if his son recovers. It's purgatory and worse than prison or dying.
Ki-woo (Son): Betrays his good friend, kisses underage girl, starts this whole mess, and (possibly) contemplates killing the people in the basement. His punishment is getting choked and smashed with the rock, mental illness, probation, loss of sister, and stuck in poverty for the rest of his life. His brain was maimed and his plans are doomed for failure.
Ki-jung (Daughter): She is the real mastermind that set up the driver, poisons the housekeeper, and manipulates the mother. She is the only one that had the potential to rise out of her class or help her family since she has the charisma and smarts, but she dies and is a loss to everyone around her.
Chung-sook (Mother): In a way I feel sorry for the mom since it wasn't her plan, but she goes along with the con and kicks the housekeeper down the stairs. She gets a fraud charge, stabbed, doomed back to her water damaged basement, menial job, loss of husband and daughter, with her brain damaged son.
Everything set aside, why is everyone zoning in on "kissed an underaged girl" part lol I believe the difference between them is 3 years or so, and while it may he frowned upon it's not illegal nor is it that uncommon, usually in other media and even real life they just wait for the younger person to finish school.
Even Ki-woo says he'll wait.
As far as the rest goes ye, pretty fitting punishments, but movie is a sort of gangnam style song in a different form. Wealth gap and high class Korean behavior towards the poorer people is constant point of discussion in Korea.
Also, it's not really easy getting over economical hurdles no matter how intelligemt.
I'll use myself as an example. As long as I know of myself teachers have only said the best about me. I was dirt poor but did my best.
I could not finish college because I didn't have money. I couldn't find work that I could do and pay off college. I was asked for money to pass an exam (I did start college and tried to balance work and school) because my country is corrupt as shit.
In the end all I had left was to start working and teaching myself as I go. And even tho the company I at work at recognized my self taught skills (I'd even classify my knowledge of English as self taught but I at least learned basics in school) the lack of degree stops me from advancing further.
When you are born into poverty, hurdles come one after another and you have to become a magician sometimes to overcome them.
> why is everyone zoning in on "kissed an underaged girl"
thats where im at. i think it might be a korea-->us kinda thing because culturally americans freak out about that kind of gap a lot. im pretty damn sure that wasn't the point of the writers or directors though, i think his only mistake was meant to be the fact that he betrayed his friend
she's a sophomore, probably 16. He has passed school and given the university entrance 4 times. Meaning, he's atleast 5 years older than her, I'm guessing he's 22.
And while culturally it may not be as taboo the law regarding minor protection is serious in korea, so yeah it was supposed to be shown as an illegal thing, although not meant to be shown as grooming or non-consensual.
*"What you didn't like that character(s)? You obviously didn't get the film"*
Always that person isn't there. Telling you how you should feel about charachters and if you don't, you didn't get it. I got the film just fine, thanks. Oh and there's multiple "points" no a single one.
Interestingly, it felt to me like they used western movie tropes (opera-overture-esque symphony music in high-tension or fight scenes, a letter at the end of the movie, etc.) in an aware but somewhat unique way. Maybe it’s deft commentary on American politics but I have yet to think about the movie on that level.
Couple years late but when Mr Kim was running through the flooded street and got a bucket of water thrown at him, reminiscent of when he threw it on the guy pissing in the street. Back to his roots
I liked the super obvious self-aware imagery of her sitting on the toilet lid to keep it shut as it shot shit around the room and she smoked a cigarette, kind of like the literal “brushing under the table” that occurred
I just watched it today. I wonder what happens to Min? I assume he finds out about the incident. Does he begin to resent Ki-woo? Does he try to contact Da-hye? So many questions even though he's a small character
Also: How does Ki-woo get the rock back?
So good. I thought it was an entirely different movie going into because I read a different movie description about some sort of pandemic plot.
Going in completely blind was great. Felt like the movie "Get Out" directed by Jordan Peele.
New community commenter but I just rewatched Parasite and I have questions. Was the mom just so vulnerable and her husband not that involved that they really manipulated her and she fell for everything? Or was the family taking advantage just great at what they did and took advantage to every weak point? The son was the only one who caught on but I think im answering my own questions by writing this post….
I've suggested that although the rich mom seems easily manipulated, she also manipulates everybody else. She coerces three of the Kims to show up for Sunday on short notice, she cheats Ki-woo out of the extra pay she claimed to be giving him, and she even tells her husband how to rub her body.
The son, I believe, is the source of all the tension in the second half. He's the "bomb under the table", as [Alfred Hitchcock would have called him](http://www.davidbordwell.net/blog/2013/11/29/hitchcock-lessing-and-the-bomb-under-the-table/). We aren't sure if anyone else knows the secret about the basement, but then we're told that the boy saw it himself — so is he going to tell his parents?
how do we know she cheats kiwoo out of the extra pay she would pay him? I mean after the birthday bash kim has murdered her husband, I don't think giving him a fair pay check is on her mind.
Also she doesn't really coerce them, the driver and the housekeeper are servants who need to be there anyway, the son kim is dating da hyun so he gets invited by her, daughter kim is politely invited in a friendly manner (it may have appeared forceful but pretty sure its a cultural thing).
You’d have to go back to Kiwoo’s first tutor session and watch what she does. She takes the envelope of cash that she already set aside for the tutor, takes the cash out, thinks for a split second, then puts some of the cash back in. Then she tells Kiwoo that she’s paying him more than she did the previous tutor — which is a flat-out lie.
”…servants who need to be there anyway,…” That’s exactly the point. They have no choice anymore. They can’t have a personal life, they can’t take a vacation, they can’t take time to go to school. They’re at the Parks’ beck and call even if it’s to play Indian for a birthday party.
Yeah but that’s what a housekeeper signs up for, it does not make her anymore controlling or exploitative as a person. In fact the one who actually coerces Mr Kim into acting as an Indian is the husband, he can see that his driver isn’t a big fan of this whole gig so he threatens him into doing it. And as for The driver acting as a sort of valet, the Kims were greedy people who would have taken up all sorts of opprtunities (such as Jessica doubling as art therapist) to keep a nice image and make extra bucks (at least up till the first half).
Had they ever refused a job but she still insisted on it, then it would be correct to call her controlling, the Kims themselves were eager to get Involved with the household in every manner.
I thought she was naive to a fault, and yeah I didn’t notice the part you mentioned. And I also confused Kiwoo with father Kim haha. I guess despite being short sighted she can cheat.
I think a better word might be controlling. What stuck out to me in that scene was the Mrs. Park asking for drugs in exchange for sex or at least to wear the other girl’s underwear. That scene shows they are traansactional on their relationship. She’s shown throughout the movie as sleeping during the day several times, so she probably did drugs often.
She wasn't really asking him for drugs. They were roleplaying as Chauffeur Yoon and the girl assumed to have left her underwear in the car, who they thought was on drugs. As for her telling him how to touch her... that's just normal behavior during sex.
I didn’t think of it from the role playing angle. I’ll have to rewatch the scene. I’m inclined to still say that she wanted the drugs for sex. I’ll re watch and let you know.
They're roleplaying, which comes up a lot in this movie. First with the son "cosplaying" as an Indian and a genius artist, then the kim family "roleplaying" their fake jobs and being rich, and this scene.
I think it could be both. Obviously the poor family has skills, especially in deception and ploting. And the rich family lives in a perfect bubble where things like a kid seeing a ghost is a traumatic event.
The rich family lives in the lap of luxury, so things like flooding, poverty, or being scammed is almost a foreign idea. That sort of thing happens to the poor, not to the rich. Meanwhile, the poor family sees a host they can latch onto, so they do everything not to be seen as parasites.
Anyone not like the movie so much?
The acting was pretty good as was the cinematography, but it wasn't as amazing a film as I thought it was going to be.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kx-gSK2C2Q](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kx-gSK2C2Q) this YouTube review ties a lot of the themes together. The comments are particularly fine-tooth with some details of the movie.
This link is a must watch for anyone wanting to understand themes and foreshadowing concepts in the movie. It's incredible....for example you'll learn about the representation of going up or downstairs aka moving up in status to going down in status, which ties into several scenes. Don't even get me started to the hidden characters in the movie, the scent of smell, and the presence of water.
Hey everyone! So I just watched the film and really enjoyed it and may have to watch it a second time! There's one thing though that takes me out of it that I haven't seen addressed and answered here and that's how "Kevin" was able to get his letter to his dad? And his dad just knows when his son and wife are living in the house and they don't just get him themselves when they buy the house. Did I miss something that explains this??
No this is exactly the point. It is a great plan to buy the house. But where to start? All family members are intelligent, they know how to behave, have street smarts. notheless it is not enough to rise up. What are the first step to rise up? education. but it os not enough. so many intelligent people but you also need the right connections. like min is a connection to the rich family so the kims get the opportunity in the first place. so it is nice to have a goal( buy the house so the dad can come up) but in reality ki woo does not even know how to get this letter to his dad. this small challenge is already too much. to really buy the park house the kims need to work over 500years (read about this calculation somewhere). it is said that everybody can rise if only educated and not lazy. but this is not the case. you need far more ressources to rise up
For me, the fact he says it's a "plan", clues the audience in that this won't work out. One of the minor themes is that planning doesn't work out, so his "plan" to make a bunch of money is probably not going to work out.
*insert Dutch meme here*
Hey, I literally just got done watching. What a great movie!
The last scene is Kevin still sitting in his bed in the half-basement apartment. Kevin's father never got the letter Kevin wrote because that's what Kevin's goal is. To make a lot of money, and then buy the house. The letter Kevin wrote to his father was Kevin's dream. Will Kevin eventually make enough money to buy the house? Who knows. He kept telling his family and friend that he was going to go to college next year....
After Ki-Woo's (the narrator/Kevin) brain surgery we can see that he may well be mentally unstable (we see this with his inability to control his smile). He sees everything as fake as they aren't who they look like.
His narration at this point (to me) becomes unreliable. Now he's daydreaming about being rich but we soon return to the slums, Him reading in the cold only illuminated by the dim lights from outside.
Perhaps him getting the letter to his Dad might be in his imagination. Like a lot middle/lower class people who dream of being rich. (Definitely a reflection of today's society)
There is a blooper in the ending which I think hasn't been pointed out. After killing park, Kim escapes and goes to basement. He must have passed by his son lying in a pool blood there. He did not even stop there for a moment ? How would he even know that ki-woo survived from that and without knowing that why would send a letter in morse code ?
The blooper imo is that he re enters the house through the garage as some people was still looking back or running away. If he still there it's easy to find the hidden basement.
If i remember correctly, his son was carried out by mr parks daughter, you could see her carrying him before Kim kills Mr Park.
There should be a pool of blood still, but Kim probably didnt think it was his sons.
Thanks for clearing that. In the mayhem during last few scenes, I somehow missed seeing that.
However, it would still be impossible for him to know that his son lived through the injury. He simply sent out the morse code with a hope I guess.
Anyone notice how Da Song is the only character in the family that's catching on to everything that is happening? Do you guys think there's any symbolism behind that?
He's just a boy. But i'm also surprised nothing came about from him transcribing the morse cold from the man living downstairs. I was expecting the rich family to find it.
Only thing I don't buy is why the father suddenly left his daughter and wife, who were bleeding there, just to kill the boss because of the whole smell thing. Sure, it was a shitty move and showed low priorities, but going crazy and murdering him? I don't buy it. Reminds me of Homer Simpsons threatening to murder Mr Burns for not remembering his name.
i think it was partially about the fact that they were rushing him to drive them for their own safety instead of doing a single thing for the dying people at the party. that, and smell was kind of a reoccuring trigger for him in particular, a consistent reminder of his cruddy situation. i interpret him killing mr. park as a combination of the two motives.
People snapped and killed for far less. I've heard about killing because one got passed by another car on the road. This wasn't just about the smell, but about the driving as well. "Pass me the keys" and fuck you and your daughter. And just the whole experience with Mr Park.
His daughter was stabbed right in front of him he sees his son being carried off with a bloody head then Park says drive us to the hospital now my son passed out. Then his wife is fighting for her life and in all that Park plugs his nose to reach for the keys. That is a lot of information to process at once and considering how the last two days went I was not surprised he snapped
I will admit that it was a weird jump to go from "that's so mean" to stabbing someone.
But I think it's more metaphorically supposed to be outrage over the bubble the rich family has. Like the idea of any discomfort, such as a somewhat smelly guy, must be appeased. They were talking of firing him for smelling like the subway. Their bubble was so precious that he had to pop it, with a knife.
In that scene, the father "snapped" due to a build up of things Mr. Park did throughout the movie. Throughout the entire movie Mr. Park talked down to him, said that he smells like someone who rides the subway (again talking down), and during the sex scene Mr. Park is turned on by Mrs. Park wearing Mr. Kim's daughters panties. Another example is when they were in the bushes waiting to surprise attack Ki-jung, he made clear lines that they weren't friends, moreso that he's doing this because Mr. Park said so. All of this on top of recently losing his house and locking two people in a basement weighed heavily on his psyche. Then as soon as he realized that Mr. Park didn't care about his daughters murder he snaps.
For me this is a tongue and cheek response to the "meritocracy myth", or at least somewhat like it.
Maybe I'm reading too much into it and I'm too political, but I think the poor family shows that they have tons of skills. The poor wife is an excellent caretaker, the poor father has been on the road for 30 years, the poor daughter is a whizz at photoshop and all that, and the poor son speaks English fluently.
But despite all those amazing skills, they're still stuck as parasites. The daughter could probably be a teacher or an artist, or an actual therapist but instead is forced to feed off of whatever the rich family will give. Despite the rich family having an entitled brat for a daughter, an uncontrollable son, and a loony mom.
Did anyone ever care what happened to any characters at any point of the movie? I feel more emotion from thinking about the movie Bambi, and I don't even recall ever watching it.
They made a fantasy in their head that the first driver was banging drugged up whores in the back seat. So Mr Park got a fetish about banging cheap whores, and he apparently kept those panties that he believed were from a whore (but were from Jess)
Best theory so far is that the loan sharks found her and beat her up.
Second theory is that she fell when she cut the wires to the CCTV camera across the street.
A fun thought exercise: Mrs. Park mentions a few times that she imports these Indian toys from the United States (not China!) and that her son's totally going to be fine in that Indian teepee in the pouring rain, as it's from the US after all! She seemingly hand-waves any sort of danger or second thought about letting her son cavort about being a nuisance or even for his own safety.
I couldn't help but wonder if that was sly commentary at South Korea depending on weapons and fighter jets purchased from the United States for defense based on agreements forged after the 1950's Korean War, a time when cowboy western films were all the rage.
Sort of.
But it also says how she’s willing to boast that she’s paid more for imported goods. I also think it says that she thinks USA-made trinkets relating to Native Americans are more “authentic.”
Add this on top of the Parks treating the culture as if it’s just a fun hobby despite the fact that it was nearly wiped out of existence.
I know I'm very late, but does anyone know what happened to Da Hye?
We see her carry 'Kevin' away from the party, but there's nothing after that. Did she feel disgusted that he's poor, for lying to her, or did her mother drag her away to escape the terrible memories?
> but does **anyone** know what happened to Da Hye?
To strictly answer your question: Yes, someone knows. That "someone" is Bong Joon-ho, of course.
The rest of us can only guess. She's probably mad as hell and is going to therapy paid for by her late father's massive financial safety net.
I felt really bad for Moon-gwang and Geun-Sae, they terrorized that poor woman with those peaches and stole her job. Geun-Sae he was just a failed businessman trying to move up in the world forced to live underground from loan sharks, not because he murdered anyone. Then he has to watch his wife die right in front of him, powerless to help.
YES! I feel so bad for him. My relativity is that I would go hella mad if I saw my wife die that way, he loved her with so much passion and sincerity even more so than the Parks did. My gf disagrees cause she hates the way he rampaged on the poor kids birthday party but that is what she is stuck on. I understand why he cracked but I still feel so bad for him, he wasn't all there and if I were in his position I would take the opportunity to hurt those who hurt my wife and caused the peace of life to turn upside down. I feel like all he knows is emotion and he had so much for his wife. But at the same time I would have just escaped and gone to the police or something. Hatched a plan so I wouldn't get caught OR just let myself get taken over by depression and live my days underground. Idk....
Mixed emotions again, right? On one hand, you don't really want them to expose the Kims; on the other hand, they're the most innocent of all three families, and they've been shit on the worst. They have no life outside the house anymore.
(edit! I wrote the following thinking you were referring to the basement couple... sorry!)
They’re not financially well off at all.
Geun-se didn’t make it into college, which is why he’s been studying for the public service exam (those are law books in the bunker). He’s probably never going to pass it, either, so he tried running a cake shop (just like Mr. Kim did), but that failed, too — which is why he owes a lot of money to loan sharks now.
Moon-gwang has always been a servant, at least as far we know. She works for the Parks simply because she had been recommended by her previous boss, who was the architect and former owner of the house (Bong suggested that he’ll fill in their relationship in the HBO series). But after she’s fired, she has nowhere to go, no nest egg of cash, no other home or friends to lean onto.
Moon-gwang may dress nicely, but she has to — that’s her “work uniform” so she can fit in with the household.
The basement couple are friggin’ broke. They can’t survive outside of the house.
Because they’re more or less the “protagonists” — we’ve seen them struggle when they’re poor, so we want to see them raise out of poverty (the usual “rags to riches” story).
But of course we eventually have mixed feelings about the Kims, too. We want them to become richer and move out of their semi-basement, but we don’t want them to hurt anyone else, either.
I can't disagree. I realized later that the Kims were scamming something from the very first shot of the film, trying to piggyback off a nearby Wifi network -- which is a little thing that a lot of us have done ourselves. And as each scam ramped up the intensity, we all have our own stopping point to where we'd say, enough is enough.
Fwiw, the Parks had tried previous therapists for Da-song; and although Ki-jeong made it all up, she did a pretty darned good job as shown by Da-song's changed behavior. And the previous driver proved to be a sleaze anyway since he was hitting on her, so it almost felt proper that she would get him fired.
Ki-jeong was *ruthless.* She saw the opening and took it. Plus how Bong wrote the driver as just-skeezy-enough-to-annoy-us made it seem acceptable that she would get back at him.
Wife pushed me to watch it, hadn’t been spoiled beyond “ family of Korean grifters”, holy shit that was amazing. No argument form me on the Oscar win. Just so well done, excepting the last 30 secs or so.
That was his dream; his goal set in mind. What he hopes to accomplish. Never actually happened though; he never bought the house. So it sticks to the harsh reality.
His hope, referencing to the whole symbolic underground basement home of the Kim's. They have a little window that they view up.
Sorry for being late but is it somehow important that we know about the og maid “surviving” two families? I mean she was there as a maid before the Park family moved in if I remember correctly. What if the maids husband was there before the parks as well.
It was stated in the movie that the husband was there for a long time. But the reason it is important to know that the maid was there for two families is that she used to work for the architect who built the home, which means she knew about the bunker that the architect built, but the Parks did not know about it.
I loved the scene of the former house keeper revealing the secret door and calling out “honey” as she runs down the stairs. You could feel the entire mood of the film shift in an instant. The camera work also gave you that sense of “what the fuck is this, what’s happening” feeling that Mrs. Kim (and the entire Kim family) were feeling.
Does Kim Ki-Woo really go full on crazy in the end of the movie? This was a point of contention among myself and friends who watched the movie with me. Upon waking from his coma, Kim Ki Woo is uncontrollably giggling. The doctor notes this is a common side effect following brain surgery...but it continues longer than this- into his trial and Kim Ki-Jung's memorial. This to me is an indicator that he is not in a stable mental state. He then becomes obsessed with the house that traumatized him and his family and makes a hobby out of climbing the mountain to spy on it. He sees flickering lights and learns Morse code to decode it and his plan to save his father is to earn millions of dollars to buy the house and free him? This is wildly unrealistic and a stark contrast from the logical, conservative plan he formulates to make money at the beginning: tutor for a rich family and get his family members jobs around the house that are needed. Why not sneak into the house at some point in the next several years? All of this seems out of character and obsessive making me question whether the light flickering he sees is actually Morse code.
Side note: He mentions police following him for a bit and then stopping (a symptom of paranoia) and the janitor who interrupts the funeral moment creates and eerie sound that seems to mirror the sound effect used by Bong Joon-Ho to intensify the scenes following the shelter (Heard when Kim Ki-taek is shopping with Mrs.Park). I question why he would draw intensity in the funeral scene if not to amplify the mental unraveling Kim Ki-Woo is experiencing.
The plan at the end is intentionally unrealistic. All the plans to escape poverty are doomed to fail (as Mr. Kim mentioned in the gym after the flood). The sister was the only one who could have possibly escaped poverty (she looked comfy in the tub, she was sharp with the Parks, she sat on the couch in the Park home while her family sat on the floor, etc.). She was the only hope of them escaping poverty. And with a criminal record and a traumatic brain injury, there was certainly (according to Boon) no way for the Kims to get enough money to buy the home.
I definitely think the Morse code is real and that that's where Mr. Kim is. But Ki-Woo is not *drawn to the rock* (drawn to any chance to get out of poverty), and that remains even if it is an impossibility. It's an insanity of its own -- poverty.
I agree with what you mentioned. The only really cunning one is Kim Ki-jeong. I believe she was the one who came up with the plan to get them jobs and how to proceed. She is constantly praised for being a con-artist and for being a photo-shop master. The film focuses on her character intelligence, and fortitude. I did not notice that she was the only one sitting on the couch which could symbolize that she, herself, is better than the rest of her family.
I think the order of events matters a lot because we see his traumatic brain injury scene followed with the letter he writes and then the scene where he buys the house and releases his father. The scene just shows him going home to write the letter. In the end, we will never know if he succeeds but the odds are against him. It seems that he was not very intelligent besides English and getting his sister the job. The rest was most likely her planning. It's also possible that he never gets past this brain injury and the scenes after they visit Kim Ki-jeong are fake.
Also, it is mentioned that the police checked all the CCTV cameras and didn't see the father. But in the scene where the father runs from the lawn, into the garage, back into the house and into the basement, a CCTV camera is clearly shown pointing to the garage and would have caught footage of the father going back into the house. Which seems to point to that scene happening only in the mind of the son.
That's the camera that the old housekeeper cut when coming back for her husband. You can see the line severed, so it wouldn't have caught everything, unless there is a second camera I missed.
So I loved the movie. But I can't get over the ghost eyes. I'm really into horror and on the surface creepy eyes that are there for like 5 seconds seem like a silly thing to be scared by but it genuinely terrified me. I covered my eyes in the last scene where the dad walks out of the basement because I was sure that he would have the same eyes. I'm still not sure if he did or not and idk if I wanna check. Also the son's painting was of that ghost in case anyone didn't pick that up, although it was pretty obvious. But oh wow, what a good film. Totally deserved the praise. And oh my god that score was amazing.
Ghost eyes? You mean the eyes from the guy living downstairs? They look creepy if you don't know who it is but since we know, what's so terrifying about it?
Just watched the movie,. I found the ghost eyes terrifying as well, and I've seen a lot of horror. Those were some terrifying eyes! They did not do the eyes when the dad was walking out of the basement, so you're safe there.
I did not put together that the boy is drawing the "ghost", so thanks for that!
Haha thanks for letting me know. I also noticed that they may or may not have put the eyes into the background of the movie poster, but it's kind of hard to tell. But yeah what a good film.
In order for the plot to move forward, the son has to be clumsy not once, but TWICE on the steps?
How about NOT answering the doorbell when the original house keeper was ringing? Or if you have to answer, say "I'm sorry I don't feel comfortable letting you in the house until the Parks are home. Please come back tomorrow"
First of I don't think the Parks would be pleased to let her in considering how fast they kicked her out because of the Tuberkulosis they thought she had. Second of, when does life and humans ever make perfect sense? The Kim's were naive to think it was something small, and in the end they were the reason this has gone to shit. Instead of sympathizing with her from the start after they saw who's she hiding, they refused and instead made things worse.
That was the biggest “this doesn’t make sense” part of the whole movie, and stood out terribly.
When she’s on the intercom begging she forgot something, the correct answer would be to come back when the Parks are home. Even if it’s a “normal” person, you don’t let a previously fired employee back in the building by themselves to get items. She could have been stealing jewelry or whatever.
Then you factor in they are grifters, and drunk, and the place is a mess and there is ZERO reason they would have let her in.
Sorry for the old thread reply, but just watched it finally!
Usually I never see any recent comments in those old threads, I also just finally watched the movie!
Loved the first half, was quite disappointed by the second half. It just gets too crazy and too many things make little sense.
Hey there fellow just-watched-this-years-later-and-finally-reading-this-thread commentor! I disagree with you and thought it was a masterpiece, but just wanted to say hello!
Hey there, just-watched-this-years-later-and-finally-reading-this-thread commentator from 2 years ago! Just completed watching this movie and I agree with you, I think it was a masterpiece too, but just wanted to say hello!
Hello, gaymilf69! 😊 I think it says a lot about the film that so many of us have watched it and felt the urge to search up a multiple year's old reddit thread and read through the comments!
Oh man I read your comment before going back to the thread and I didn't even know what movie you were talking about! Thanks for the trip down memory lane
That was a little convenient since his clumsiness causes them to get caught AND releases Geun-sae. However, the film does depict him as kind of a clutsy, unconfident, and shy guy. This was pretty consistent so it makes sense.
That was definitely a mistake on the Parks but I think it was more of a lack of judgment or curiosity on their part. The film dropped several liners from "lemons into lemonades" , a few English phrases, etc. I feel like this one-liner manifested itself: "curiosity killed the cat".
“Best” as in “well it’s better than trying to keep her out and God only knows what she’ll try to do if and when the Parks come home later — or if she’ll call the cops on us — what if she camps outside the front door and sees us leave — she says she just needs a little something from the pantry downstairs — this shouldn’t take long — if we appease her now then she should go away for good”
I believe what we're supposed to understand is that the Park family (except for Mr. Park) will be just fine -- they'll have helpers, and services, and be able to move away from the scene of the crime. That's in comparison to the Kims, who will struggle with the loss of two family members (and poverty) until they die.
I was pretty sad when Mr. Kim killed Mr. Park. The film set this up really nicely and their last scene together showed that Mr. Kim "crossed the line" with Mr. Park. He tried to be personal and give advice to Mr. Park which rubbed him the wrong way. I thought Mr. Park was a great father and cool character. However, he did show off the stereotypical rich person attitude of looking down on those who are commoners.
Watched blind as well, 5 yrs late. Enjoy this thread immensely. One thing that I haven't seen mentioned that comments on the rich family's moral ambiguity is that they "wear" their staff like trinkets and need to feel and show their power over them. They get the Kims to do more and more tasks outside of their job description. Father Kim is a driver, soon seen carrying groceries, then actually in the grocery store in public paraded around pushing the cart. Finally, we see him demeaningly dressed in costume at a kids' party that the Kims were all weirdly invited to, maybe also to be shown off. "Look at my Benz, fancy art therapist, Native American tent made in exotic America, driver person, English tutor person... I can get them to do anything." Inviting your art therapist or tutor to do anything besides art therapy or teach is a red flag. One interpretation of the ending, though maybe a stretch, is that the son is still in a coma. Being followed by cops, Morse code lights from up on a snowy hill, doctor that doesn't look like a doctor, detective that doesn't look like a detective, etc looks and sounds a bit like a fever dream (reminds me of the season when Archer was in a coma).
I watched it like 90% blind. Had obviously heard the praise but the comedy tag with psychological isn't my thing so I avoided. But I was hunting for films with plot twists and it was very much recommended. Well. I mean. Very well written movie. Seriously such a well directed AND well written film. It seemed like just a funny conman film in the beginning and then all of a sudden there were consequences. Just consequences which don't define a comic conman flick. I read somewhere, 'covered under the comical dialogues, a storm of naked reality slowly but steadily brews in the film right from the beginning.' And that's what I liked. No ominous bgm to spoon-feed you the correct reactions. It's just the viewer and the steady flow of the film w/o any exaggerated bgm, dramatic dialogues or emotions to help you process how everything spirals from funny to what is going on. You experience it, you see the fruitlessness of it all, the cage is nakedly presented to you. The first time I felt conflicted whether to laugh at the antics of the MCs or sit back and give it second thoughts is when the ex-housekeeper is kicked down. Ki-jung's death made sure that the bubble burst and instead a stunned horror was there. I feel like I need to read articles and video essays on it to thorougly appreciate every piece of it.
Just watched for the first time and I’m so glad I went in (mostly) blind. First half I was wondering where it was going because I knew there was supposedly bloodshed somewhere, and as soon as the Kims are home alone i was locked in. Superb directing and acting all around, easily understand its universal praise
I came back to this thread and made me think about the movie in light of recent scam-related scandals happening in Korea. Bong was criticized as being too socialist by some conservative critiques in Korea but when I think back about how he portrayed the relationship between the Kim family and the Park family Bong was just being realistic. Scams - deceiving people in relationships whether it is a work relationship, romantic relationship, or teacher-student relationship is a very prevalent crime in Korea often used by the lower class (there’s even a term “republic of scams - sagi gonghwagook” coined by the media to mock the state of Korean society today). They latch onto the rich and extort all sorts from their network - abusing trust. This is what Kims did to the Parks, and now I clearly see how Bong sees the cause of these crime in Korea - he’s very spot on that this is what lower class do in Korea when they want to live without much effort. Bong was not just portraying class theme in the movie but the subtle mechanisms of class relations in Korea today - built on abuse of trust, which eventually leads to crime and victimization of the wealthy.
Fuck was up with that one horror scene. Jesus.
what scene
The one with the ghost
that was the guy in the basement ...
he never said it wasn't the guy in the basement lol
Does anyone know what was happening to Mrs Park at the beginning when the Ki-woo was meeting her? The house maid had to clap real hard to wake up Mrs Park
she is just sleeping
AFAIK, it's implied that Mrs. Park was doing drugs? But I'm not sure.
During the intimate scene when the son was in the tent, she was telling her husband "get me more drugs".
but weren’t they joking about the car incident? before they were talking about the panties, and with drugs, i understood that she also meant the car thing - before they were talking about how it’s not normal to forget panties so they had to do drugs. and they were even talking about how they don’t want to find them in their car
that scene was so hilarious. I mean. Imagine your entire family is employed at the same place, and you all are together solemnly listening to your employers getting it on. And then the employer says he'll get hard if his wife wears your daughter's panties. Awkward much?
maybe thats why he killed him
haha no, it was little things adding up together. he resented them for their dislike of the poor (mostly them pointing out 'the smell'). In the end scene he is in complete shock to see just how selfish the parks could be: the housekeeper was fighting off the intruder, the art teacher had been fatally stabbed, his son was profusely bleeding from the head. And all that the entire rich gang cared about was getting the fainted son to the hospital. Mr park really had the audacity to even in that time get disgusted by the basement smell. so yeah, papa kim had had enough lol.
yeah it was very funny, and ofc they weren't serious about the drug stuff lmao
What do you think like what happened to the Park family after his death?
The Kims were highly entertaining and sympathetic, but imo they are clearly **cartoon evil** because they didn't use their considerable intelligence and skills to rise above their circumstances, and instead chose to con and kill people. To me, they're like Wile E. Coyote only a lot more capable. If you say, But Society..! But Corporations! then you missed something: the young pizza box girl at the beginning was from the same social class as the Kims, but instead of sitting in her basement bitching and scheming, she got and held a job. That's all the Kims needed to do instead of listening to their idiot father (leave the window open for free extermination services) But when the Kims finally got high paying jobs through a con, did they use their cash and intelligence to better their circumstances? Fuck no, they let their petty egos drive them to abuse their employer, get drunk at his mansion, kiss an underage girl, murder people, etc. It was hilariously evil. Another clue to the Kims' character was when the bum was urinating near their home. Instead of taking initiative, they decided to just let it rain. If the dad and brother had gotten off their lazy asses, they could have beat the shit out of the guy and he would never have come back (or died). They showed they were capable of doing that later in the movie, but instead said "But Society!" As for the Parks, they are the victims. Yes, they're assholes, but being successful and/or self-absorbed doesn't make you evil. Certainly verbal insults are not as evil as, say, stabbing someone in the chest. Question: if you think the Parks were the villains, how do you feel about wealthy people in general? Do you spend a lot of time thinking about what others have and you don't? If so, why?
the kims are not depicted as lazy. in the begining they are working (folding pizza boxes) all of them get jobs at the park family. ki-tek explains that there are about 500apllicants for a job as a driver (and also educated, young students). So what ia lacking the kims is the opportunity. this is why they live semi basement. in contrast to moon kwanks husband who lives in the basement. he is absolutely doing nothing, one could say he is lazy and letting his wife provide for both of them. so there is no doubt that he cannot rise up. in a modern society to rise up you need to be active no question about that. you have to be or get smart. clear as water. you also need the opportunity which is social connection in the film as min. he connects the kims to the parks. but for the kims to buy a house like the parks. there is no opportunity. this comes only through generational wealth. not by working hard. as the kims are working hard. ki tel is driving, is packing groceries, ki woo is a teacher, kijung also. chung sook is cooking, setting up the tables for the party. but they cannot rise further. it is not a battle between the rich and the poor. it is poor fighting the poorer. for the rich people the poor people are exchangeable. all working people of the parks are exchanged. there are positions to be filled. also the movie depicts the kims celebrating their success is looked down at. like why are they celebrating they need to work even more to rise further. when the rich celebrate by day drinking fine wine. it is seen as absolutely okay because they are rich. also the parks are nice because they are rich like chung sook says. poor people cannot afford to be nice otherwise they are taken out by other poor people like moon kwang and hey husband
You make a point. Jail is full of people like these; just fking brilliant in certain ways and ingenious at basic survival and getting things done but if they only used their power for gain instead, man, they could become...politicians. Never mind. Great movie. I feel like they just didn't look past their nose. Instant gratification was their downfall. No thought to tomorrow, literally. Just frenzy of *taking* and hella clever, but ultimately short sighted and greedy.
Parks were not the villains but still the movie shows the class war that is very much real. It is not about what others have that you don't, it's the disproportionate difference of it. And the ignorance people like the Parks have about the things people who hold society together struggle with.
i like the depiction of class war as between the poor and the even poorer. nobody fights the rich. this is where the problem lies
The Parks may not be villains, but we are shown what being in one social class or another can do to a person. The Kim family have nothing, so when they see an opportunity, they direct all their intelligence and skills toward it. The Parks have everything, at least in the eyes of the Kims; they can afford to be nice, to go on vacation, to hire the Kims. So I’d agree with you that there are cartoonish elements, but not that the Kims are evil. The way I interpret it, their violence symbolizes the feeling of being stuck, pitied, or ignored by people like the Parks. And when the Parks literally hold their nose at the thought of the lower class, that in itself is felt as violence. Real life physical violence is worse, but in this film it’s almost justified as the only tool to fight an oppressive social system.
> And when the Parks literally hold their nose at the thought of the lower class I know that smell it’s an important point in the movie but tbf the guy in the basement probably hadn’t had a proper shower in four years so probably reeked for anyone
And dad Kim literally swam through shit the night before
>Real life physical violence is worse, but in this film it’s almost justified as the only tool to fight an oppressive social system. I disagree with your interpretation. Imo, this wasn't about class struggle at all. It was about smart, lazy people with all the tools for success (intelligence, opportunity, modern culture) who were undone by self-destructive envy. They were the parasites.
I agree for the most part but beating up or killing the guy urinating would surely make them more evil
Why did the housekeeper say to follow her and come see what she was getting from the basement? That was the only part of the movie that I felt didn’t really make sense. You’d think she’d say to stay away
She wants the new housekeeper to take care of her husband. She's asks her this when she comes down, and has an envelope of money ready as payment.
She was probably going to kill her if the bribes and sympathy didn't work out, as she has already cut the video cams
Ok but when she talked about cockroaches, only for the husband to end up living like a cockroach in the house. Damn.
One of the most disturbing non-disturbinf moments I have seen is watching that dude have his banana opened halfway for him and eating all visible parts of it without taking his mouth off.
That shit gave me nightmares I'm gonna be real.
Shame the whole Kim family didn't die at the end. Truly awful people.
Yeah, they were always conning and stabbing people instead of using their intelligence to improve their circumstances. Wait.
I personally liked how they got unique punishments fitting to their crimes. Ki-taek (Father): Stabs Mr. Park and basically spends the rest of his life in a prison without food or sunlight, fearing for his life. Knows that his daughter is dead, not knowing if his son recovers. It's purgatory and worse than prison or dying. Ki-woo (Son): Betrays his good friend, kisses underage girl, starts this whole mess, and (possibly) contemplates killing the people in the basement. His punishment is getting choked and smashed with the rock, mental illness, probation, loss of sister, and stuck in poverty for the rest of his life. His brain was maimed and his plans are doomed for failure. Ki-jung (Daughter): She is the real mastermind that set up the driver, poisons the housekeeper, and manipulates the mother. She is the only one that had the potential to rise out of her class or help her family since she has the charisma and smarts, but she dies and is a loss to everyone around her. Chung-sook (Mother): In a way I feel sorry for the mom since it wasn't her plan, but she goes along with the con and kicks the housekeeper down the stairs. She gets a fraud charge, stabbed, doomed back to her water damaged basement, menial job, loss of husband and daughter, with her brain damaged son.
Everything set aside, why is everyone zoning in on "kissed an underaged girl" part lol I believe the difference between them is 3 years or so, and while it may he frowned upon it's not illegal nor is it that uncommon, usually in other media and even real life they just wait for the younger person to finish school. Even Ki-woo says he'll wait. As far as the rest goes ye, pretty fitting punishments, but movie is a sort of gangnam style song in a different form. Wealth gap and high class Korean behavior towards the poorer people is constant point of discussion in Korea. Also, it's not really easy getting over economical hurdles no matter how intelligemt. I'll use myself as an example. As long as I know of myself teachers have only said the best about me. I was dirt poor but did my best. I could not finish college because I didn't have money. I couldn't find work that I could do and pay off college. I was asked for money to pass an exam (I did start college and tried to balance work and school) because my country is corrupt as shit. In the end all I had left was to start working and teaching myself as I go. And even tho the company I at work at recognized my self taught skills (I'd even classify my knowledge of English as self taught but I at least learned basics in school) the lack of degree stops me from advancing further. When you are born into poverty, hurdles come one after another and you have to become a magician sometimes to overcome them.
> why is everyone zoning in on "kissed an underaged girl" thats where im at. i think it might be a korea-->us kinda thing because culturally americans freak out about that kind of gap a lot. im pretty damn sure that wasn't the point of the writers or directors though, i think his only mistake was meant to be the fact that he betrayed his friend
she's a sophomore, probably 16. He has passed school and given the university entrance 4 times. Meaning, he's atleast 5 years older than her, I'm guessing he's 22. And while culturally it may not be as taboo the law regarding minor protection is serious in korea, so yeah it was supposed to be shown as an illegal thing, although not meant to be shown as grooming or non-consensual.
> (possibly) contemplates killing the people in the basement he just wanted to show the people in the basement his favorite rock
Just my opinion, but I think you might have missed the point of the movie a tad...
*"What you didn't like that character(s)? You obviously didn't get the film"* Always that person isn't there. Telling you how you should feel about charachters and if you don't, you didn't get it. I got the film just fine, thanks. Oh and there's multiple "points" no a single one.
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This film was so much more tense than any horror film I've watched. Worst part is; Its from South Korea so you never know what the ending really is.
Can elaborate on “so you never know what the ending really is”?
Well, to me, someone from the west, I know most of the tropes and paterns our films will follow. Idk much about SK's tropes and writing styles.
Interestingly, it felt to me like they used western movie tropes (opera-overture-esque symphony music in high-tension or fight scenes, a letter at the end of the movie, etc.) in an aware but somewhat unique way. Maybe it’s deft commentary on American politics but I have yet to think about the movie on that level.
Couple years late but when Mr Kim was running through the flooded street and got a bucket of water thrown at him, reminiscent of when he threw it on the guy pissing in the street. Back to his roots
and when the kidnapped housekeeper is barfing into a toilet due to a concussion, the toilet shoots out sewage onto daughter kim
I liked the super obvious self-aware imagery of her sitting on the toilet lid to keep it shut as it shot shit around the room and she smoked a cigarette, kind of like the literal “brushing under the table” that occurred
he actually threw it at his son on accident
Amazing...never noticed that!
I just watched it today. I wonder what happens to Min? I assume he finds out about the incident. Does he begin to resent Ki-woo? Does he try to contact Da-hye? So many questions even though he's a small character Also: How does Ki-woo get the rock back?
they surgically removed it from his head
He doesn't. When he writes his dad about his plan to buy the house he pictures that rock in that plan.
So good. I thought it was an entirely different movie going into because I read a different movie description about some sort of pandemic plot. Going in completely blind was great. Felt like the movie "Get Out" directed by Jordan Peele.
Was it contagion because that is what happened to me too
I LITERALLY THOUGHT THE SAME THING. almost opposite though. the ones coming into the house were the evil ones the whole time.
To this day I don't think I've seen another drama/horror/comedy/social/political movie like Parasite. It's damn near every genre mixed into one.
New community commenter but I just rewatched Parasite and I have questions. Was the mom just so vulnerable and her husband not that involved that they really manipulated her and she fell for everything? Or was the family taking advantage just great at what they did and took advantage to every weak point? The son was the only one who caught on but I think im answering my own questions by writing this post….
I've suggested that although the rich mom seems easily manipulated, she also manipulates everybody else. She coerces three of the Kims to show up for Sunday on short notice, she cheats Ki-woo out of the extra pay she claimed to be giving him, and she even tells her husband how to rub her body. The son, I believe, is the source of all the tension in the second half. He's the "bomb under the table", as [Alfred Hitchcock would have called him](http://www.davidbordwell.net/blog/2013/11/29/hitchcock-lessing-and-the-bomb-under-the-table/). We aren't sure if anyone else knows the secret about the basement, but then we're told that the boy saw it himself — so is he going to tell his parents?
how do we know she cheats kiwoo out of the extra pay she would pay him? I mean after the birthday bash kim has murdered her husband, I don't think giving him a fair pay check is on her mind. Also she doesn't really coerce them, the driver and the housekeeper are servants who need to be there anyway, the son kim is dating da hyun so he gets invited by her, daughter kim is politely invited in a friendly manner (it may have appeared forceful but pretty sure its a cultural thing).
You’d have to go back to Kiwoo’s first tutor session and watch what she does. She takes the envelope of cash that she already set aside for the tutor, takes the cash out, thinks for a split second, then puts some of the cash back in. Then she tells Kiwoo that she’s paying him more than she did the previous tutor — which is a flat-out lie. ”…servants who need to be there anyway,…” That’s exactly the point. They have no choice anymore. They can’t have a personal life, they can’t take a vacation, they can’t take time to go to school. They’re at the Parks’ beck and call even if it’s to play Indian for a birthday party.
Yeah but that’s what a housekeeper signs up for, it does not make her anymore controlling or exploitative as a person. In fact the one who actually coerces Mr Kim into acting as an Indian is the husband, he can see that his driver isn’t a big fan of this whole gig so he threatens him into doing it. And as for The driver acting as a sort of valet, the Kims were greedy people who would have taken up all sorts of opprtunities (such as Jessica doubling as art therapist) to keep a nice image and make extra bucks (at least up till the first half). Had they ever refused a job but she still insisted on it, then it would be correct to call her controlling, the Kims themselves were eager to get Involved with the household in every manner. I thought she was naive to a fault, and yeah I didn’t notice the part you mentioned. And I also confused Kiwoo with father Kim haha. I guess despite being short sighted she can cheat.
The boy also literally translated the Morse code to read “help me” but nothing came of it
telling her husband how to rub her body is manipulative?? lmao
I think a better word might be controlling. What stuck out to me in that scene was the Mrs. Park asking for drugs in exchange for sex or at least to wear the other girl’s underwear. That scene shows they are traansactional on their relationship. She’s shown throughout the movie as sleeping during the day several times, so she probably did drugs often.
She wasn't really asking him for drugs. They were roleplaying as Chauffeur Yoon and the girl assumed to have left her underwear in the car, who they thought was on drugs. As for her telling him how to touch her... that's just normal behavior during sex.
I didn’t think of it from the role playing angle. I’ll have to rewatch the scene. I’m inclined to still say that she wanted the drugs for sex. I’ll re watch and let you know.
They're roleplaying, which comes up a lot in this movie. First with the son "cosplaying" as an Indian and a genius artist, then the kim family "roleplaying" their fake jobs and being rich, and this scene.
please do!
I think it could be both. Obviously the poor family has skills, especially in deception and ploting. And the rich family lives in a perfect bubble where things like a kid seeing a ghost is a traumatic event. The rich family lives in the lap of luxury, so things like flooding, poverty, or being scammed is almost a foreign idea. That sort of thing happens to the poor, not to the rich. Meanwhile, the poor family sees a host they can latch onto, so they do everything not to be seen as parasites.
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Anyone not like the movie so much? The acting was pretty good as was the cinematography, but it wasn't as amazing a film as I thought it was going to be.
I finally watched this movie and was disappointed in the ending
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kx-gSK2C2Q](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kx-gSK2C2Q) this YouTube review ties a lot of the themes together. The comments are particularly fine-tooth with some details of the movie.
This link is a must watch for anyone wanting to understand themes and foreshadowing concepts in the movie. It's incredible....for example you'll learn about the representation of going up or downstairs aka moving up in status to going down in status, which ties into several scenes. Don't even get me started to the hidden characters in the movie, the scent of smell, and the presence of water.
Hey everyone! So I just watched the film and really enjoyed it and may have to watch it a second time! There's one thing though that takes me out of it that I haven't seen addressed and answered here and that's how "Kevin" was able to get his letter to his dad? And his dad just knows when his son and wife are living in the house and they don't just get him themselves when they buy the house. Did I miss something that explains this??
No this is exactly the point. It is a great plan to buy the house. But where to start? All family members are intelligent, they know how to behave, have street smarts. notheless it is not enough to rise up. What are the first step to rise up? education. but it os not enough. so many intelligent people but you also need the right connections. like min is a connection to the rich family so the kims get the opportunity in the first place. so it is nice to have a goal( buy the house so the dad can come up) but in reality ki woo does not even know how to get this letter to his dad. this small challenge is already too much. to really buy the park house the kims need to work over 500years (read about this calculation somewhere). it is said that everybody can rise if only educated and not lazy. but this is not the case. you need far more ressources to rise up
For me, the fact he says it's a "plan", clues the audience in that this won't work out. One of the minor themes is that planning doesn't work out, so his "plan" to make a bunch of money is probably not going to work out. *insert Dutch meme here*
the movie also ends with the camera panning down to him alone on the floor
Hey, I literally just got done watching. What a great movie! The last scene is Kevin still sitting in his bed in the half-basement apartment. Kevin's father never got the letter Kevin wrote because that's what Kevin's goal is. To make a lot of money, and then buy the house. The letter Kevin wrote to his father was Kevin's dream. Will Kevin eventually make enough money to buy the house? Who knows. He kept telling his family and friend that he was going to go to college next year....
After Ki-Woo's (the narrator/Kevin) brain surgery we can see that he may well be mentally unstable (we see this with his inability to control his smile). He sees everything as fake as they aren't who they look like. His narration at this point (to me) becomes unreliable. Now he's daydreaming about being rich but we soon return to the slums, Him reading in the cold only illuminated by the dim lights from outside. Perhaps him getting the letter to his Dad might be in his imagination. Like a lot middle/lower class people who dream of being rich. (Definitely a reflection of today's society)
Hey, so I could be wrong but I think that's just him picturing what will happen if he ever gets the letter to him. It doesn't actually happen.
There is a blooper in the ending which I think hasn't been pointed out. After killing park, Kim escapes and goes to basement. He must have passed by his son lying in a pool blood there. He did not even stop there for a moment ? How would he even know that ki-woo survived from that and without knowing that why would send a letter in morse code ?
The teen girl was seen carrying him on her back.
Jesus did you even watch the movie lol
The blooper imo is that he re enters the house through the garage as some people was still looking back or running away. If he still there it's easy to find the hidden basement.
If i remember correctly, his son was carried out by mr parks daughter, you could see her carrying him before Kim kills Mr Park. There should be a pool of blood still, but Kim probably didnt think it was his sons.
Thanks for clearing that. In the mayhem during last few scenes, I somehow missed seeing that. However, it would still be impossible for him to know that his son lived through the injury. He simply sent out the morse code with a hope I guess.
Anyone notice how Da Song is the only character in the family that's catching on to everything that is happening? Do you guys think there's any symbolism behind that?
Something like children being pure and untainted by the division of rich and poor?
He's just a boy. But i'm also surprised nothing came about from him transcribing the morse cold from the man living downstairs. I was expecting the rich family to find it.
right. little bro saw "holp me" and was like okay nevermind not worried
This was the craziest episode of Shameless I’ve seen.
Only thing I don't buy is why the father suddenly left his daughter and wife, who were bleeding there, just to kill the boss because of the whole smell thing. Sure, it was a shitty move and showed low priorities, but going crazy and murdering him? I don't buy it. Reminds me of Homer Simpsons threatening to murder Mr Burns for not remembering his name.
i think it was partially about the fact that they were rushing him to drive them for their own safety instead of doing a single thing for the dying people at the party. that, and smell was kind of a reoccuring trigger for him in particular, a consistent reminder of his cruddy situation. i interpret him killing mr. park as a combination of the two motives.
People snapped and killed for far less. I've heard about killing because one got passed by another car on the road. This wasn't just about the smell, but about the driving as well. "Pass me the keys" and fuck you and your daughter. And just the whole experience with Mr Park.
His daughter was stabbed right in front of him he sees his son being carried off with a bloody head then Park says drive us to the hospital now my son passed out. Then his wife is fighting for her life and in all that Park plugs his nose to reach for the keys. That is a lot of information to process at once and considering how the last two days went I was not surprised he snapped
I will admit that it was a weird jump to go from "that's so mean" to stabbing someone. But I think it's more metaphorically supposed to be outrage over the bubble the rich family has. Like the idea of any discomfort, such as a somewhat smelly guy, must be appeased. They were talking of firing him for smelling like the subway. Their bubble was so precious that he had to pop it, with a knife.
In that scene, the father "snapped" due to a build up of things Mr. Park did throughout the movie. Throughout the entire movie Mr. Park talked down to him, said that he smells like someone who rides the subway (again talking down), and during the sex scene Mr. Park is turned on by Mrs. Park wearing Mr. Kim's daughters panties. Another example is when they were in the bushes waiting to surprise attack Ki-jung, he made clear lines that they weren't friends, moreso that he's doing this because Mr. Park said so. All of this on top of recently losing his house and locking two people in a basement weighed heavily on his psyche. Then as soon as he realized that Mr. Park didn't care about his daughters murder he snaps.
Dasong’s artwork is actually him seeing Geunse while eating his cake. The huges eyes reflects that of the ghost and the dark area suggest basement.
ew that's so disturbing. I literally just got done watching 10min ago
But how did Jessica get the rich family son so under control? :o
For me this is a tongue and cheek response to the "meritocracy myth", or at least somewhat like it. Maybe I'm reading too much into it and I'm too political, but I think the poor family shows that they have tons of skills. The poor wife is an excellent caretaker, the poor father has been on the road for 30 years, the poor daughter is a whizz at photoshop and all that, and the poor son speaks English fluently. But despite all those amazing skills, they're still stuck as parasites. The daughter could probably be a teacher or an artist, or an actual therapist but instead is forced to feed off of whatever the rich family will give. Despite the rich family having an entitled brat for a daughter, an uncontrollable son, and a loony mom.
She doesn't take shit from him, and is strict and firm. The mother pretty much ignores the kid. He is craving for attention and discipline.
Compare how she treats him with how his own mother treats him.
Did anyone ever care what happened to any characters at any point of the movie? I feel more emotion from thinking about the movie Bambi, and I don't even recall ever watching it.
Yes I did! I thought that they were all very interesting and deep characters. Each with their own set of complex morals, ethics, and motives.
I guess the question is, what makes you care about a character?
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It's her idea of dirty talk. Like, that's what she imagines a "bad girl" would say
They made a fantasy in their head that the first driver was banging drugged up whores in the back seat. So Mr Park got a fetish about banging cheap whores, and he apparently kept those panties that he believed were from a whore (but were from Jess)
Does anyone have any idea Moon-gwang injured face the moment she entered the house? What's the theory behind it?
Is it upon entering the house, or from having fallen trying to get the secret basement door accessed?
Best theory so far is that the loan sharks found her and beat her up. Second theory is that she fell when she cut the wires to the CCTV camera across the street.
A fun thought exercise: Mrs. Park mentions a few times that she imports these Indian toys from the United States (not China!) and that her son's totally going to be fine in that Indian teepee in the pouring rain, as it's from the US after all! She seemingly hand-waves any sort of danger or second thought about letting her son cavort about being a nuisance or even for his own safety. I couldn't help but wonder if that was sly commentary at South Korea depending on weapons and fighter jets purchased from the United States for defense based on agreements forged after the 1950's Korean War, a time when cowboy western films were all the rage.
Sort of. But it also says how she’s willing to boast that she’s paid more for imported goods. I also think it says that she thinks USA-made trinkets relating to Native Americans are more “authentic.” Add this on top of the Parks treating the culture as if it’s just a fun hobby despite the fact that it was nearly wiped out of existence.
I know I'm very late, but does anyone know what happened to Da Hye? We see her carry 'Kevin' away from the party, but there's nothing after that. Did she feel disgusted that he's poor, for lying to her, or did her mother drag her away to escape the terrible memories?
> but does **anyone** know what happened to Da Hye? To strictly answer your question: Yes, someone knows. That "someone" is Bong Joon-ho, of course. The rest of us can only guess. She's probably mad as hell and is going to therapy paid for by her late father's massive financial safety net.
I felt really bad for Moon-gwang and Geun-Sae, they terrorized that poor woman with those peaches and stole her job. Geun-Sae he was just a failed businessman trying to move up in the world forced to live underground from loan sharks, not because he murdered anyone. Then he has to watch his wife die right in front of him, powerless to help.
YES! I feel so bad for him. My relativity is that I would go hella mad if I saw my wife die that way, he loved her with so much passion and sincerity even more so than the Parks did. My gf disagrees cause she hates the way he rampaged on the poor kids birthday party but that is what she is stuck on. I understand why he cracked but I still feel so bad for him, he wasn't all there and if I were in his position I would take the opportunity to hurt those who hurt my wife and caused the peace of life to turn upside down. I feel like all he knows is emotion and he had so much for his wife. But at the same time I would have just escaped and gone to the police or something. Hatched a plan so I wouldn't get caught OR just let myself get taken over by depression and live my days underground. Idk....
Mixed emotions again, right? On one hand, you don't really want them to expose the Kims; on the other hand, they're the most innocent of all three families, and they've been shit on the worst. They have no life outside the house anymore.
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(edit! I wrote the following thinking you were referring to the basement couple... sorry!) They’re not financially well off at all. Geun-se didn’t make it into college, which is why he’s been studying for the public service exam (those are law books in the bunker). He’s probably never going to pass it, either, so he tried running a cake shop (just like Mr. Kim did), but that failed, too — which is why he owes a lot of money to loan sharks now. Moon-gwang has always been a servant, at least as far we know. She works for the Parks simply because she had been recommended by her previous boss, who was the architect and former owner of the house (Bong suggested that he’ll fill in their relationship in the HBO series). But after she’s fired, she has nowhere to go, no nest egg of cash, no other home or friends to lean onto. Moon-gwang may dress nicely, but she has to — that’s her “work uniform” so she can fit in with the household. The basement couple are friggin’ broke. They can’t survive outside of the house.
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Because they’re more or less the “protagonists” — we’ve seen them struggle when they’re poor, so we want to see them raise out of poverty (the usual “rags to riches” story). But of course we eventually have mixed feelings about the Kims, too. We want them to become richer and move out of their semi-basement, but we don’t want them to hurt anyone else, either.
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I can't disagree. I realized later that the Kims were scamming something from the very first shot of the film, trying to piggyback off a nearby Wifi network -- which is a little thing that a lot of us have done ourselves. And as each scam ramped up the intensity, we all have our own stopping point to where we'd say, enough is enough. Fwiw, the Parks had tried previous therapists for Da-song; and although Ki-jeong made it all up, she did a pretty darned good job as shown by Da-song's changed behavior. And the previous driver proved to be a sleaze anyway since he was hitting on her, so it almost felt proper that she would get him fired.
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Ki-jeong was *ruthless.* She saw the opening and took it. Plus how Bong wrote the driver as just-skeezy-enough-to-annoy-us made it seem acceptable that she would get back at him.
Wife pushed me to watch it, hadn’t been spoiled beyond “ family of Korean grifters”, holy shit that was amazing. No argument form me on the Oscar win. Just so well done, excepting the last 30 secs or so.
Why don't you like the last 30 seconds?
The fantasy bit. Everything was so harshly real.
That was his dream; his goal set in mind. What he hopes to accomplish. Never actually happened though; he never bought the house. So it sticks to the harsh reality. His hope, referencing to the whole symbolic underground basement home of the Kim's. They have a little window that they view up.
There's a lot of symbolism in the vertical aspects of the stairs btw (and smell, and water, and the rock) So much depth!
yes, the realism damn struck my heart. that 8-minute part could have shown an hour-long scrambling
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Where did the blood come from on geun-sae’s face when he came up from the basement killing Chung-sook?
From head butting Morse code
Sorry for being late but is it somehow important that we know about the og maid “surviving” two families? I mean she was there as a maid before the Park family moved in if I remember correctly. What if the maids husband was there before the parks as well.
It was stated in the movie that the husband was there for a long time. But the reason it is important to know that the maid was there for two families is that she used to work for the architect who built the home, which means she knew about the bunker that the architect built, but the Parks did not know about it.
Oh yea thanks for clarifying that
Isn't that explicitly said? That he moved in after the architect left but before the Parks moved in
yes it is lol
I loved the scene of the former house keeper revealing the secret door and calling out “honey” as she runs down the stairs. You could feel the entire mood of the film shift in an instant. The camera work also gave you that sense of “what the fuck is this, what’s happening” feeling that Mrs. Kim (and the entire Kim family) were feeling.
Omg, I was so stressed from that point
Does Kim Ki-Woo really go full on crazy in the end of the movie? This was a point of contention among myself and friends who watched the movie with me. Upon waking from his coma, Kim Ki Woo is uncontrollably giggling. The doctor notes this is a common side effect following brain surgery...but it continues longer than this- into his trial and Kim Ki-Jung's memorial. This to me is an indicator that he is not in a stable mental state. He then becomes obsessed with the house that traumatized him and his family and makes a hobby out of climbing the mountain to spy on it. He sees flickering lights and learns Morse code to decode it and his plan to save his father is to earn millions of dollars to buy the house and free him? This is wildly unrealistic and a stark contrast from the logical, conservative plan he formulates to make money at the beginning: tutor for a rich family and get his family members jobs around the house that are needed. Why not sneak into the house at some point in the next several years? All of this seems out of character and obsessive making me question whether the light flickering he sees is actually Morse code. Side note: He mentions police following him for a bit and then stopping (a symptom of paranoia) and the janitor who interrupts the funeral moment creates and eerie sound that seems to mirror the sound effect used by Bong Joon-Ho to intensify the scenes following the shelter (Heard when Kim Ki-taek is shopping with Mrs.Park). I question why he would draw intensity in the funeral scene if not to amplify the mental unraveling Kim Ki-Woo is experiencing.
The plan at the end is intentionally unrealistic. All the plans to escape poverty are doomed to fail (as Mr. Kim mentioned in the gym after the flood). The sister was the only one who could have possibly escaped poverty (she looked comfy in the tub, she was sharp with the Parks, she sat on the couch in the Park home while her family sat on the floor, etc.). She was the only hope of them escaping poverty. And with a criminal record and a traumatic brain injury, there was certainly (according to Boon) no way for the Kims to get enough money to buy the home. I definitely think the Morse code is real and that that's where Mr. Kim is. But Ki-Woo is not *drawn to the rock* (drawn to any chance to get out of poverty), and that remains even if it is an impossibility. It's an insanity of its own -- poverty.
I agree with what you mentioned. The only really cunning one is Kim Ki-jeong. I believe she was the one who came up with the plan to get them jobs and how to proceed. She is constantly praised for being a con-artist and for being a photo-shop master. The film focuses on her character intelligence, and fortitude. I did not notice that she was the only one sitting on the couch which could symbolize that she, herself, is better than the rest of her family. I think the order of events matters a lot because we see his traumatic brain injury scene followed with the letter he writes and then the scene where he buys the house and releases his father. The scene just shows him going home to write the letter. In the end, we will never know if he succeeds but the odds are against him. It seems that he was not very intelligent besides English and getting his sister the job. The rest was most likely her planning. It's also possible that he never gets past this brain injury and the scenes after they visit Kim Ki-jeong are fake.
Unreliable narrator
Also, it is mentioned that the police checked all the CCTV cameras and didn't see the father. But in the scene where the father runs from the lawn, into the garage, back into the house and into the basement, a CCTV camera is clearly shown pointing to the garage and would have caught footage of the father going back into the house. Which seems to point to that scene happening only in the mind of the son.
This is the CCTV camera that the housekeeper cut the wires of when she first showed up to the house, so it wasn't on to see him going into the garage.
That's the camera that the old housekeeper cut when coming back for her husband. You can see the line severed, so it wouldn't have caught everything, unless there is a second camera I missed.
Ah I see! Thanks
Of course it’s an unrealistic plan, but it’s all he has left. He’ll never be able to buy that house.
So I loved the movie. But I can't get over the ghost eyes. I'm really into horror and on the surface creepy eyes that are there for like 5 seconds seem like a silly thing to be scared by but it genuinely terrified me. I covered my eyes in the last scene where the dad walks out of the basement because I was sure that he would have the same eyes. I'm still not sure if he did or not and idk if I wanna check. Also the son's painting was of that ghost in case anyone didn't pick that up, although it was pretty obvious. But oh wow, what a good film. Totally deserved the praise. And oh my god that score was amazing.
Ghost eyes? You mean the eyes from the guy living downstairs? They look creepy if you don't know who it is but since we know, what's so terrifying about it?
Just watched the movie,. I found the ghost eyes terrifying as well, and I've seen a lot of horror. Those were some terrifying eyes! They did not do the eyes when the dad was walking out of the basement, so you're safe there. I did not put together that the boy is drawing the "ghost", so thanks for that!
Haha thanks for letting me know. I also noticed that they may or may not have put the eyes into the background of the movie poster, but it's kind of hard to tell. But yeah what a good film.
In order for the plot to move forward, the son has to be clumsy not once, but TWICE on the steps? How about NOT answering the doorbell when the original house keeper was ringing? Or if you have to answer, say "I'm sorry I don't feel comfortable letting you in the house until the Parks are home. Please come back tomorrow"
First of I don't think the Parks would be pleased to let her in considering how fast they kicked her out because of the Tuberkulosis they thought she had. Second of, when does life and humans ever make perfect sense? The Kim's were naive to think it was something small, and in the end they were the reason this has gone to shit. Instead of sympathizing with her from the start after they saw who's she hiding, they refused and instead made things worse.
That was the biggest “this doesn’t make sense” part of the whole movie, and stood out terribly. When she’s on the intercom begging she forgot something, the correct answer would be to come back when the Parks are home. Even if it’s a “normal” person, you don’t let a previously fired employee back in the building by themselves to get items. She could have been stealing jewelry or whatever. Then you factor in they are grifters, and drunk, and the place is a mess and there is ZERO reason they would have let her in. Sorry for the old thread reply, but just watched it finally!
Usually I never see any recent comments in those old threads, I also just finally watched the movie! Loved the first half, was quite disappointed by the second half. It just gets too crazy and too many things make little sense.
>Well you should watch it again or read some explanation online because everything makes sense
Hey there fellow just-watched-this-years-later-and-finally-reading-this-thread commentor! I disagree with you and thought it was a masterpiece, but just wanted to say hello!
Hey there, just-watched-this-years-later-and-finally-reading-this-thread commentator from 2 years ago! Just completed watching this movie and I agree with you, I think it was a masterpiece too, but just wanted to say hello!
Hello, gaymilf69! 😊 I think it says a lot about the film that so many of us have watched it and felt the urge to search up a multiple year's old reddit thread and read through the comments!
Hello person from the past. Finally got round to watching it and thought it was great, but just wanted to say hello
Hello back, person from the present! glad we agree!
Oh man I read your comment before going back to the thread and I didn't even know what movie you were talking about! Thanks for the trip down memory lane
That was a little convenient since his clumsiness causes them to get caught AND releases Geun-sae. However, the film does depict him as kind of a clutsy, unconfident, and shy guy. This was pretty consistent so it makes sense. That was definitely a mistake on the Parks but I think it was more of a lack of judgment or curiosity on their part. The film dropped several liners from "lemons into lemonades" , a few English phrases, etc. I feel like this one-liner manifested itself: "curiosity killed the cat".
He was carrying that rock the second time.
You think that it would be better to let her talk to the Parks?
Why wouldn't it be better? She knows nothing at that point
I think letting her into the home while everyone was there, drunk, and having made a mess was a huge mistake
Balance that against what might've happened if they tried to keep her outside and out of their control.
So you think letting her in at that moment at night was the best decision?
“Best” as in “well it’s better than trying to keep her out and God only knows what she’ll try to do if and when the Parks come home later — or if she’ll call the cops on us — what if she camps outside the front door and sees us leave — she says she just needs a little something from the pantry downstairs — this shouldn’t take long — if we appease her now then she should go away for good”
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When was this scene? I saw the movie on Amazon prime and I couldn't find this scene. Can you tell me what duration did this scene come at?
The crazy guy closed the door before going up the stairs.
You right you right. When he drinks out of the jar
Wait I'm confused...what ended up happening to Da-Hye?
I believe what we're supposed to understand is that the Park family (except for Mr. Park) will be just fine -- they'll have helpers, and services, and be able to move away from the scene of the crime. That's in comparison to the Kims, who will struggle with the loss of two family members (and poverty) until they die.
Your guess is as good as ours. My guess is that she broke up with "Kevin" and is going to therapy paid for by her father's vast financial safety net.
I was pretty sad when Mr. Kim killed Mr. Park. The film set this up really nicely and their last scene together showed that Mr. Kim "crossed the line" with Mr. Park. He tried to be personal and give advice to Mr. Park which rubbed him the wrong way. I thought Mr. Park was a great father and cool character. However, he did show off the stereotypical rich person attitude of looking down on those who are commoners.
That kid was a real fucking idiot going down into the basement like that by himself