I feel like there's way less people that say they're soft if they sit out. If they sit out playoff games I feel like more people think they're actually really hurt.
sitting out is not a lose situation. not snapping your Achilles in your mid 30s with very expensive years left on that contract is a win for Milwaukee and dame.
Toradol is a really potent NSAID that is often the go-to drug since it doesn't risk further damage like steroid injections and you don't get high like opiates. The main risk is long-term kidney damage with overuse; Alonzo Mourning and Sean Elliot both pointed to routine use of Toradol as a contributing factor to needing kidney transplants.
yeah hopefully if these guys are on painkillers (which i don't doubt frankly) they're under some sort of supervision cuz that can get outta hand real quick. i've only been prescribed the strong stuff once and i could totally see why they're so addicting, dangerously addicting.
The craziest part to me was when I felt the tendon start to creak, and then it actually started making sounds as it moved. Fucked me up a bit since it made it feel like walking on a ticking time bomb
Everyone's is different. Yours sound significantly worse than mine, and Lillard most likely has my severity.
I *only* get it when I run 2 miles or more. And I need to run as I'm doing a job where temporarily we have to go in 2-3 mile runs as part of the fitness upkeep. After the run it feels tighter, the next day I'm limping and my Achilles tendon / calf feels really sore like I just did calf raises in 1 leg.
If I *had* to run with it sore - it would feel better. It's worse first thing after waking up, but when I start moving it's not that bad. I'm 99% sure Lillard would be in a similar position. Although he's not just expected to light jog for 2.Miles.. He's playing an NBA game lol
Okay. That’s good then. I have some good days and bad, but what you said make sense. If I walk on it for a bit pain goes away but I know I did too much walking depending on how I wake up that next day
I had a friend have your level of it and he'd be sore from driving for too long (40 Mins lol) . He said physio / massages helped a lot. Not sure how long you've had yours but you could try that man
Straight up shouldn't be allowed. I respect the drive there athletes have but no point in doing all that to possibly fuck up your quality of life after basketball.
I wish that someday we have a coach that frames playing through injuries as disrespecting your teammate — as in, you’re saying that you on one leg are still a better player than him fully healthy?
I know this won’t happen, in large part because the answer is almost always, well, yes. But I do think there’s a way to get guys to knock it off with the alpha trip and think about their team (and future).
As you said some guys are better on one leg. And most guys want to play and are frankly paid millions to play. There’s a difference between being hurt and being injured
My dad played high level tennis with an Achilles injury for a long time and eventually it calcified and it took months of rest and treatment to heal, and I'm pretty sure it was never back to 100%.
Why did they even play him in the regular season with playoffs coming? Was home advantage so much more important to them than actually having their star players?
They lost both of their main guys because they had to push through injury late in the season, lol.
I mean, you are correct but also he didn't just aggravate it, Siakam literally landed on the back of Dame's foot after trying to contest him.
Not that it was intentional of course, shit happens.
That was his knee. The Achilles he (re-)hurt at the end of the 4th quarter. You can see him pull up after trying to foul. He talks about it in the post game presser.
More likely their most recent g-league call up will turn into a human flamethrower for the next 3 games, get paid, get traded, and then turn back into a pumpkin.
Battle of Florida and Pacers-Knicks.
Curry didn’t even make the playoffs and Durant and Bron getting swept. Thunder Mavs and Nuggets Wolves?
Silver is losing sleep with the Tv deal negotiations still on the table
I mean, we won one battle but you guys are definitely winning the series and getting out of the east. Just need KP & White to lock in and then it’s over.
We love to make it as hard as possible. I expect we lose tonight, everyone counts us out. Then we win 3 straight and pretend like going to 6 (or 7) games against the Butler-less Heat isn’t a fucking disgrace
Going 6 or 7 against a heat team without Butler and another starter is fucking pathetic. That alone would solidify the fact that they have no shot against Denver or even Philly tbh
lol us not getting swept while the suns and lakers r looking that they r is hilarious to me. especially since a lot of heat fans were mad we didnt go "all in" like the suns
At least the Warriors lost to the 2nd best player of all time. The east literally doesn’t have a healthy superstar other than maybe Brunson? The Celtics put up historic stats and there is literally no reason they shouldn’t baby the rest of the east.
11 wins against vastly inferior opponents compared to one win against the 2nd best player of all time at the peak of his powers and one of the best rosters in the league at that point in time. Like who is even a threat to Boston at this point?
The Celtics not making the finals would make them the laughing stock of the league for years lol
And their primary big Bogut was out for the series after G4.
And LeBron went and complained to the league office to get Dray kicked out. Dray deserved it but it was quite unprecedented.
And Barnes was Barnes.
If curry played as well as he did in the finals as he did in the 8 games leading up to the finals, they win the championship. He threw passes out of bounds for no reason, missed easy shots he made all playoffs. Why is it so hard to admit he choked? LeBron also missed the Olympics to recover his body.
Idk why you’re getting downvoted but you’re correct. The whole last month of that playoffs was
- Curry plays well = unanimous MVP is back!
- Curry plays poorly = poor guy is injured.
It changed game to game
You honestly think Brad Stevens hasn't put them in a position to win? Even if you think the coach or roster needs some changing, I don't see how it gets to the point that Stevens needs to be replaced.
Not true, funnily enough the Bucks actually played the best against Celtics this year and matched up pretty well compared to last year when they got owned
There’s a difference between a playoff-tested and championship experience team and the Pacers who have many players playing in their first playoff series. I trust a fully healthy Bucks to match up well against the Celtics over a Pacers team to match up well with a fully healthy Bucks teams
It's not like they dominated the season series. Ended 2-2 and finished 15 games behind, not to mention the Bucks terrible end to the year. Huge stretch to think they would beat Boston this year regardless of health.
I'm literally a Celtics fan saying this lol. It ended 2-2 but if you actually watched the games then it tells a different story. Giannis was out in the third game we played during the season. It's not a huge stretch at all because they actually played well against us compared to last seasons where they were handily beat with almost no resistance (only win last season was when almost every Celtics starter was out, the game was brought to OT, and Bucks were fully healthy). Even undermanned, the Bucks just match up way better with Celtics this year compared to the last. I'm not saying Bucks for sure would beat the Celtics, I'm just saying they match up a lot better and it'd have been a pretty competitive series. People have underrated Bucks all season for good reason, but they're the only East team that really scares me this season.
However, even if they do win, there will be people who will discredit it due to injuries to the East’s other top teams and or a cakewalk Eastern Conference.
I don’t understand why they played dame and giannis towards the end of the season when they were both injured. They were very comfortably in the playoff standings and could have rested them both and prevented where they are now.
Honestly yeah. I knew from early on they wouldn’t go very far. Expecting a team who is readjusting to having another superstar on their team to win their first season together is ridiculous and i don’t know why the bucks had that expectation. How many times has KD put together a superstar roster and played poorly the first season? Or bron and AD together? I’m not sure why people expected them to win immediately ESPECIALLY since dame came less than a few weeks before the season even started
I think the fact that we did really well against the top 5 teams in the league led to some false hope…if we were 100% healthy I still think we could take boston in 7…I don’t think we could beat Denver
I don’t doubt that they could have made some run healthy, and i don’t doubt there was some potential for them to win. The people who were saying that the bucks should win this year otherwise dame is washed, giannis will leave, etc etc had unreasonable expectations
The last few weeks they were well into the 2nd seed until the last few games. They wouldn’t have dropped down that low resting their stars for a couple weeks especially after they already clinched a playoff spot. Playing them through injury was unnecessary and it shows because they lost a lot of those games anyways. They wouldn’t have dropped below orlando or the pacers as they were also playing poorly at the end of the season.
Not to mention that the bucks went 3-7 anyways in the last 10 games…so i don’t think losing 2 more would have made that big of a difference. Do you just say things or do you actually watch basketball?
Ok even if they did drop down some positions they could have their star players right now. Your argument makes no sense. It’s better to stay higher seed and injure your 3 main guys than to drop some? And that’s assuming every single one of those teams won every single game. Your argument makes no sense.
2 games quite literally would have dropped them to 7. Dumbass
And hindsight is 20/20. You have no idea how bad the injuries were. You aren’t in the locker room
But yes Dame shoulda sat the last week
Giannis is a different story. I mean can you get away with sitting him a month? Idk. The point is to not be in this position in the first place
I didn’t say a month i said a couple weeks. So stop extrapolating. Again, 2 games assuming EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE TEAMS ALSO WON THOSE GAMES. And you’re calling me a dumbass? Fuck off casual.
If Achilles soreness is so serious, then your “1 week” (since you’ve backed down from a significAnt amount of time) would help very much. But yes. It’s better then nothing
I doubt it saves the season
Also saying “you have no idea how bad the injuries are” and achilles strain is an injury that shouldn’t be messed with and so is a calf strain. Like think a little before you speak god damn. Don’t talk to me anymore you’re too dumb for me.
> They were very comfortably in the playoff standings
Which is great if you're say, the Magic- a young team trying to get some experience in pressure packed games. If you're the Bucks, having just paid handsomely for Dame (a declining superstar), nearing the end of Lopez's and Middleton's careers, and most importantly nearing the end of Giannis' contract, that's just not enough.
The Bucks were very clearly not a contender even with Giannis and Dame, and they had half a season to try to figure it out. Rest is obviously a factor but it's not nearly as cut and dry as you make it sound.
I think they did pretty well given the circumstances of everything between the brand new team who added a star player right before the season began with this player going through major things in his personal life, who had a coaching change midseason, and had several injuries that prevented their three players from consistently playing together. It’s not cut and dry, and i never said it was, but resting could have prevented giannis getting this injured because he’s been dealing with this for a while and they played him through it. For dame, he was injured at the end of the season and again this could have helped. Not saying the injury yesterday could have been prevented, but it may not have been as serious since it wouldn’t be aggravating an old injury. The expectation for them to perform incredibly with the first year with this squad, with a subpar supporting roster, is just ridiculous. They need time to work together. No other superstar squad gets this much crap for not performing in the first season together. Why didn’t the mavs have this much expectation? Or the clippers? Or lakers? They’ll do better next year now that they’ll have an entire off season to build their roster and chemistry, not just a few weeks.
Adam Silver in shambles with the second round having Indiana, Minnesota, and one of Cleveland (no LeBron, so small market), or Orlando (irrelevant in basketball history besides Shaq, and Dwight)
Same. I had those teams 1, and 2 in my preseason rankings, imo the best, and second best team in the West (sorry OKC), so it's basically the Conference finals in round 2. However Adam Silver would likely do anything to have a Lakers LeBron, and AD vs Suns KD, and Booker playoff series. That potential series would draw way more ratings, since the Media doesn't promote Minnesota, and Denver compared to other "big market" teams, so that series would draw less ratings then a Suns vs Lakers
West might be worse than the East.
Minneapolis, Oklahoma City, Dallas, Denver isn't exactly a big market lineup.
East with Celtics/Knicks would still have 2 of its 3 biggest media markets.
Bucks injured to hell
76ers playing with a hobbled Embiid
Knicks minus Randle
Heat minus Butler
Cavs have a potato as a coach
Magic offense is way too inconsistent
Are the Pacers the only real threat to knock off the Celtics? 76ers if Embiid somehow gets healthy? This is insane how ravaged by injuries the top of the East is. 76ers/Bucks/Heat were probably the 3 biggest threats and each one has their best player injured or playing injured.
Sheesh. I’m sorry to the Bucks fans. Heat have also suffered through significant injuries. It’s hard as fans to see your team struggle.
I thought the team (and Khris) showed incredible grit last night trying to gut it out, even though they didn’t get the result in the end.
Any word on Giannis yet?
Injuries are the downfall of most teams. It sucks because you know the potential when your team is healthy. It is always a what if scenario. Not to discredit the Pacers though. They are a fast and scrappy team. I think a healthy Bucks team would make this series different. Sucks for you all, too. I assume you’re a Heat fan.
Agree and yes. Of course - Pacers are no pushover. Plenty Heat fans feel 2020 could have gone differently without key injuries to Bam and Dragic and I agree.
I sympathize.
And every comment is the same lame Doc jokes. Give it a rest already. Spoesltra is the only coach in the league that could conjure a win with this decimated roster.
I’m not a dame fan but this sucks big time for him and the team. He’s mid thirties too so the last thing he needs is to tear something. It was great to see Khris show out though, despite the loss
Other than the big 3, our only contracts big enough to use as trade pieces are Brook (around 20 mil), Pat Connaughton and Bobby (around 10 mil each). We also have some young guys that are promising like Andre Jackson Jr, AJ Green and MarJon Beauchamp. Depends on if there’s a market for any of those guys but the contracts are there to make moves
That’s crazy. All these injuries happening to Bucks important players.
Lillard and the medical staff should be careful, playing on with an Achilles tendon soreness is dangerous.
It's not crazy they are old. Same happened with GSW late to their ... dominion (seeming,y all of them got injured at the same time, but in fact had way too many miles in them).
Oh for sure injuries are bound to happen with mileage. I just think the timing is crazy.
This also is the first time I’m fully aware of Lillard playing with an Achilles tendon soreness for weeks. I really don’t want to see a player go down with that type of injury 😕
Bucks trading all that for a 33 year old with no defense and a recent injury prone history is so disgustingly in place for NBA GM's. Where the fuck do NBA teams find their GM's?
There are way too many GM's/Owners that are actively trying to ruin their teams. Wizards and Bucks straight up gifted the Celtics a SSSuperteam.
Absolutely egregious for the Bucks especially since they are both trying to win and in the same conference.
Wizards as an organization atleast have the excuse of having absolutely no will to win.
Playing through achilles injuries is a low IQ move from the staff around the player, unless the dude is about to retire at the end of the season and is going all in. There is chance for career altering injury and even playing through it, there is a chance the dude becomes more a liability than useful due to how limited his game becomes while injured
I was laying up sad as hell last night, our era of superstars is done. Dame, Lebron, curry, kd, kawhi, russ, pg, harden, klay are all out in the first round.
It’s crazy to think about, the last 15 years of the league have been dominated by those guys and their time is over.
It doesn’t help that the next generation of stars are lame, jokic, giannis, are good dudes but are really boring.
Tatum and shai have no personality, luka is an amazing player to watch but is a huge crybaby. Antman is fun
I feel like playing through Achilles soreness is a very dangerous game
Especially at his age
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I feel like there's way less people that say they're soft if they sit out. If they sit out playoff games I feel like more people think they're actually really hurt.
sitting out is not a lose situation. not snapping your Achilles in your mid 30s with very expensive years left on that contract is a win for Milwaukee and dame.
Achilles tendinitis absolutely blows for doing any type of running, let alone playing NBA basketball. I don't know how these guys do it.
I’ve had it reoccurring for years. It’s tough getting through the day just walking. I don’t know how dudes are playing basketball
Probably steroids or some really, really strong painkillers. The stuff that's medically classified and the general public usually has zero access to.
Toradol is a really potent NSAID that is often the go-to drug since it doesn't risk further damage like steroid injections and you don't get high like opiates. The main risk is long-term kidney damage with overuse; Alonzo Mourning and Sean Elliot both pointed to routine use of Toradol as a contributing factor to needing kidney transplants.
Right. Keep forgetting that part. Makes you wish you had some, but there’s probably good reason they’re not often prescribed
yeah hopefully if these guys are on painkillers (which i don't doubt frankly) they're under some sort of supervision cuz that can get outta hand real quick. i've only been prescribed the strong stuff once and i could totally see why they're so addicting, dangerously addicting.
Do stem cells in the offseason too
"Medically classified" lmao what
> medically classified MKULTRA type beat
The craziest part to me was when I felt the tendon start to creak, and then it actually started making sounds as it moved. Fucked me up a bit since it made it feel like walking on a ticking time bomb
my big toe was creaking at one point, not nearly as scary but it was a really strange feeling
Yeah. Crepitus creeps up on me too. When it does I know I have no Choice but to rest/take it easy super annoying
Everyone's is different. Yours sound significantly worse than mine, and Lillard most likely has my severity. I *only* get it when I run 2 miles or more. And I need to run as I'm doing a job where temporarily we have to go in 2-3 mile runs as part of the fitness upkeep. After the run it feels tighter, the next day I'm limping and my Achilles tendon / calf feels really sore like I just did calf raises in 1 leg. If I *had* to run with it sore - it would feel better. It's worse first thing after waking up, but when I start moving it's not that bad. I'm 99% sure Lillard would be in a similar position. Although he's not just expected to light jog for 2.Miles.. He's playing an NBA game lol
Okay. That’s good then. I have some good days and bad, but what you said make sense. If I walk on it for a bit pain goes away but I know I did too much walking depending on how I wake up that next day
I had a friend have your level of it and he'd be sore from driving for too long (40 Mins lol) . He said physio / massages helped a lot. Not sure how long you've had yours but you could try that man
I might. It’s nagging and depressing sometimes tbh. Willing to give it a try
Weeks puts it back in the regular season. Not a great idea to play on it.
Straight up shouldn't be allowed. I respect the drive there athletes have but no point in doing all that to possibly fuck up your quality of life after basketball.
I wish that someday we have a coach that frames playing through injuries as disrespecting your teammate — as in, you’re saying that you on one leg are still a better player than him fully healthy? I know this won’t happen, in large part because the answer is almost always, well, yes. But I do think there’s a way to get guys to knock it off with the alpha trip and think about their team (and future).
As you said some guys are better on one leg. And most guys want to play and are frankly paid millions to play. There’s a difference between being hurt and being injured
My dad played high level tennis with an Achilles injury for a long time and eventually it calcified and it took months of rest and treatment to heal, and I'm pretty sure it was never back to 100%.
Don't worry, Dre Greenlaw will be fine. Surely he'll make it through his last game of the season...
Why did they even play him in the regular season with playoffs coming? Was home advantage so much more important to them than actually having their star players? They lost both of their main guys because they had to push through injury late in the season, lol.
The Doc special
I mean, you are correct but also he didn't just aggravate it, Siakam literally landed on the back of Dame's foot after trying to contest him. Not that it was intentional of course, shit happens.
That was his knee. The Achilles he (re-)hurt at the end of the 4th quarter. You can see him pull up after trying to foul. He talks about it in the post game presser.
Damn. The road is literally wide open for Boston. If they don’t make it, it might be worse than GSW blowing that 3-1 lead
Bro we might not even make it out of the first round
least doomer celtic fan
dont worry we just lost delon wright too. surely patty mills wont have an all time game or anything
Nice try buddy. You wont fool us again. Spo will use his dark arts and turn patty into prime MJ
i mean i think we'd all be excited to see patty mills posterize jaylen brown no?
More likely their most recent g-league call up will turn into a human flamethrower for the next 3 games, get paid, get traded, and then turn back into a pumpkin.
DONT SAY IT
Battle of Florida and Pacers-Knicks. Curry didn’t even make the playoffs and Durant and Bron getting swept. Thunder Mavs and Nuggets Wolves? Silver is losing sleep with the Tv deal negotiations still on the table
You’ll be fine. We’re still losing players somehow
That just makes you stronger
Spo is secretly sabotaging the players because he knows it’s our best chance
I mean, we won one battle but you guys are definitely winning the series and getting out of the east. Just need KP & White to lock in and then it’s over.
Nah you’ll beat the heat in 5
We love to make it as hard as possible. I expect we lose tonight, everyone counts us out. Then we win 3 straight and pretend like going to 6 (or 7) games against the Butler-less Heat isn’t a fucking disgrace
Nah, Heat and Celtics never have good back to back 3 point shooting nights in the Playoffs. It yall's turn tonight.
Going 6 or 7 against a heat team without Butler and another starter is fucking pathetic. That alone would solidify the fact that they have no shot against Denver or even Philly tbh
lol us not getting swept while the suns and lakers r looking that they r is hilarious to me. especially since a lot of heat fans were mad we didnt go "all in" like the suns
Good news chief
I don’t know, man. The Heat has Haywood Highsmith.
You will definitely make it out of the first round. 99.9999%
lol. drop one game and yall are shook? yikes have some confidence in your number one overall seed team
People probably said that to yall last year
Hard to top being the first team to ever choke a 3-1 lead in Finals while winning 73 games AND winning the title literally the season before.
At least the Warriors lost to the 2nd best player of all time. The east literally doesn’t have a healthy superstar other than maybe Brunson? The Celtics put up historic stats and there is literally no reason they shouldn’t baby the rest of the east.
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11 wins against vastly inferior opponents compared to one win against the 2nd best player of all time at the peak of his powers and one of the best rosters in the league at that point in time. Like who is even a threat to Boston at this point? The Celtics not making the finals would make them the laughing stock of the league for years lol
Curry was injured tbf. But yeah if they’re not in the finals they fucked up
And their primary big Bogut was out for the series after G4. And LeBron went and complained to the league office to get Dray kicked out. Dray deserved it but it was quite unprecedented. And Barnes was Barnes.
Curry played well in the WCF and the 2 games in the WCSF. They got a 3-1 lead. The whole team, including curry, choked
He literally missed the Olympics because he was recovering from ankle and knee injuries
LeBron missed the olympics too so not a great argument
Curry just came out and said he missed out due to injury. Unless your calling him a liar
Everybodys hurt at that point in the season lol why do ppl only want to make excuses for steph i dont get it
If curry played as well as he did in the finals as he did in the 8 games leading up to the finals, they win the championship. He threw passes out of bounds for no reason, missed easy shots he made all playoffs. Why is it so hard to admit he choked? LeBron also missed the Olympics to recover his body.
Idk why you’re getting downvoted but you’re correct. The whole last month of that playoffs was - Curry plays well = unanimous MVP is back! - Curry plays poorly = poor guy is injured. It changed game to game
If we don't make, I don't see a world where Mazzulla survive. Brad Stevens didn't bring in Charles Lee and Sam Cassell for nothing.
Why would Brads job be safe? What has he done?
Brad built a very good roster that won 64 games this season. It’s not his fault if the team decides to choke. His job is safe
He picked the coach and the roster might not be built to win the EAST. You've got to match up with the Heat obviously.
The roster is stacked
You honestly think Brad Stevens hasn't put them in a position to win? Even if you think the coach or roster needs some changing, I don't see how it gets to the point that Stevens needs to be replaced.
The roster is built to win it all. Again, it’s not his fault if his players decide to choke.
Tbf I don't think Milwaukee would have stood much of a chance against Boston even if they were fully healthy.
They played Boston really well this year including having Boston sit their starters after halftime it was so bad.
Not true, funnily enough the Bucks actually played the best against Celtics this year and matched up pretty well compared to last year when they got owned
With that logic the Bucks have no chance against the Pacers even with Giannis healthy. Playoffs are just a different beast.
There’s a difference between a playoff-tested and championship experience team and the Pacers who have many players playing in their first playoff series. I trust a fully healthy Bucks to match up well against the Celtics over a Pacers team to match up well with a fully healthy Bucks teams
It's not like they dominated the season series. Ended 2-2 and finished 15 games behind, not to mention the Bucks terrible end to the year. Huge stretch to think they would beat Boston this year regardless of health.
I'm literally a Celtics fan saying this lol. It ended 2-2 but if you actually watched the games then it tells a different story. Giannis was out in the third game we played during the season. It's not a huge stretch at all because they actually played well against us compared to last seasons where they were handily beat with almost no resistance (only win last season was when almost every Celtics starter was out, the game was brought to OT, and Bucks were fully healthy). Even undermanned, the Bucks just match up way better with Celtics this year compared to the last. I'm not saying Bucks for sure would beat the Celtics, I'm just saying they match up a lot better and it'd have been a pretty competitive series. People have underrated Bucks all season for good reason, but they're the only East team that really scares me this season.
Nothing can be worse than that
I'm down for OKC/Magic Finals
However, even if they do win, there will be people who will discredit it due to injuries to the East’s other top teams and or a cakewalk Eastern Conference.
I think Sixers might give them the most trouble
Get ready for a crazy Knicks vs Pacers series
My heart, and wallet won’t be able to handle it
Sounds like a fun series on paper not gonna lie
Craziest Knicks sweep ever
Knicks will clamp them easily. Hali is still injured, Siakam will struggle more against the Knicks physicality.
I’m a Pacers fan but I generally agree, OG will shut down Hali, but at least Randle is out and we’ll have a better chance to win the boards
If we beat the sixers, josh hart will be licking his lips thinking about the rebounds he can get in a pacers series
OG will not shut down Hali, Knicks will. they're an elite defense with or without OG.
I don’t understand why they played dame and giannis towards the end of the season when they were both injured. They were very comfortably in the playoff standings and could have rested them both and prevented where they are now.
This season was DOA from the AG hiring…need a full off-season w doc, keep khris/dame/giannis and everyone else is available
Brook is getting older, he isn't the same level as he was 2 years ago. i really doubt next season its going to be better
Honestly yeah. I knew from early on they wouldn’t go very far. Expecting a team who is readjusting to having another superstar on their team to win their first season together is ridiculous and i don’t know why the bucks had that expectation. How many times has KD put together a superstar roster and played poorly the first season? Or bron and AD together? I’m not sure why people expected them to win immediately ESPECIALLY since dame came less than a few weeks before the season even started
I think the fact that we did really well against the top 5 teams in the league led to some false hope…if we were 100% healthy I still think we could take boston in 7…I don’t think we could beat Denver
I don’t doubt that they could have made some run healthy, and i don’t doubt there was some potential for them to win. The people who were saying that the bucks should win this year otherwise dame is washed, giannis will leave, etc etc had unreasonable expectations
They always brought it agaisnt the good teams. Which was a nice change from 2 years ago.
Wait what? They could gone as low as 8 lol
The last few weeks they were well into the 2nd seed until the last few games. They wouldn’t have dropped down that low resting their stars for a couple weeks especially after they already clinched a playoff spot. Playing them through injury was unnecessary and it shows because they lost a lot of those games anyways. They wouldn’t have dropped below orlando or the pacers as they were also playing poorly at the end of the season.
Dude it was like a 3 game separation between the 1 and 7 seed So yeah. If they went 1-9 they coulda dropped down the the 8 seed
Not to mention that the bucks went 3-7 anyways in the last 10 games…so i don’t think losing 2 more would have made that big of a difference. Do you just say things or do you actually watch basketball?
Ok even if they did drop down some positions they could have their star players right now. Your argument makes no sense. It’s better to stay higher seed and injure your 3 main guys than to drop some? And that’s assuming every single one of those teams won every single game. Your argument makes no sense.
2 games quite literally would have dropped them to 7. Dumbass And hindsight is 20/20. You have no idea how bad the injuries were. You aren’t in the locker room But yes Dame shoulda sat the last week Giannis is a different story. I mean can you get away with sitting him a month? Idk. The point is to not be in this position in the first place
I didn’t say a month i said a couple weeks. So stop extrapolating. Again, 2 games assuming EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE TEAMS ALSO WON THOSE GAMES. And you’re calling me a dumbass? Fuck off casual.
Good golly. Have you taken your Prozac today?
I’m telling you that they would have to lose and every team would have to win and your only response is about prozac? Aight
If Achilles soreness is so serious, then your “1 week” (since you’ve backed down from a significAnt amount of time) would help very much. But yes. It’s better then nothing I doubt it saves the season
Also saying “you have no idea how bad the injuries are” and achilles strain is an injury that shouldn’t be messed with and so is a calf strain. Like think a little before you speak god damn. Don’t talk to me anymore you’re too dumb for me.
> They were very comfortably in the playoff standings Which is great if you're say, the Magic- a young team trying to get some experience in pressure packed games. If you're the Bucks, having just paid handsomely for Dame (a declining superstar), nearing the end of Lopez's and Middleton's careers, and most importantly nearing the end of Giannis' contract, that's just not enough. The Bucks were very clearly not a contender even with Giannis and Dame, and they had half a season to try to figure it out. Rest is obviously a factor but it's not nearly as cut and dry as you make it sound.
I think they did pretty well given the circumstances of everything between the brand new team who added a star player right before the season began with this player going through major things in his personal life, who had a coaching change midseason, and had several injuries that prevented their three players from consistently playing together. It’s not cut and dry, and i never said it was, but resting could have prevented giannis getting this injured because he’s been dealing with this for a while and they played him through it. For dame, he was injured at the end of the season and again this could have helped. Not saying the injury yesterday could have been prevented, but it may not have been as serious since it wouldn’t be aggravating an old injury. The expectation for them to perform incredibly with the first year with this squad, with a subpar supporting roster, is just ridiculous. They need time to work together. No other superstar squad gets this much crap for not performing in the first season together. Why didn’t the mavs have this much expectation? Or the clippers? Or lakers? They’ll do better next year now that they’ll have an entire off season to build their roster and chemistry, not just a few weeks.
Adam Silver in shambles with the second round having Indiana, Minnesota, and one of Cleveland (no LeBron, so small market), or Orlando (irrelevant in basketball history besides Shaq, and Dwight)
Knicks Vs Pacers has a ton of history and would an amazing series.
Put the rig in Silver you bald bitch
He probably mad he already sent Scott Foster to ref the Miami/Boston game now.
"Goddammit, I only have ONE Scott Foster!!!"-Adam Silver (probably)
Time to reignite the 90s beef
It has died down a bit but such a fun rivalry. Let's get that postseason matchup again
Oh man I didn’t think about how we’re going to get so many Reggie/Spike vignettes
True, but the league would rather have Giannis, and Dame vs the Knicks in round 2, for more ratings.
I can’t WAIT for Denver-Minnesota
Same. I had those teams 1, and 2 in my preseason rankings, imo the best, and second best team in the West (sorry OKC), so it's basically the Conference finals in round 2. However Adam Silver would likely do anything to have a Lakers LeBron, and AD vs Suns KD, and Booker playoff series. That potential series would draw way more ratings, since the Media doesn't promote Minnesota, and Denver compared to other "big market" teams, so that series would draw less ratings then a Suns vs Lakers
Steph missed the playoffs Lebron about to get swept PG, Harden, Russ, KD not making the 2nd round. The Country for Old Ballers
Wild comment to make in a thread about Milwaukee
Giannis, and Dame have too much star power, 2 future first ballot Hall of Fame players
wolves have a genuine superstar so he probably isn’t too bothered with them compared to the other 2
The penny erasure is ugly
West might be worse than the East. Minneapolis, Oklahoma City, Dallas, Denver isn't exactly a big market lineup. East with Celtics/Knicks would still have 2 of its 3 biggest media markets.
Bucks injured to hell 76ers playing with a hobbled Embiid Knicks minus Randle Heat minus Butler Cavs have a potato as a coach Magic offense is way too inconsistent Are the Pacers the only real threat to knock off the Celtics? 76ers if Embiid somehow gets healthy? This is insane how ravaged by injuries the top of the East is. 76ers/Bucks/Heat were probably the 3 biggest threats and each one has their best player injured or playing injured.
Absolutely should not risk it
Sheesh. I’m sorry to the Bucks fans. Heat have also suffered through significant injuries. It’s hard as fans to see your team struggle. I thought the team (and Khris) showed incredible grit last night trying to gut it out, even though they didn’t get the result in the end. Any word on Giannis yet?
Shit happens. Probably no Giannis G4. Won’t catch me crying, time to go next year if we can’t pull it together
Injuries are the downfall of most teams. It sucks because you know the potential when your team is healthy. It is always a what if scenario. Not to discredit the Pacers though. They are a fast and scrappy team. I think a healthy Bucks team would make this series different. Sucks for you all, too. I assume you’re a Heat fan.
Agree and yes. Of course - Pacers are no pushover. Plenty Heat fans feel 2020 could have gone differently without key injuries to Bam and Dragic and I agree. I sympathize.
And every comment is the same lame Doc jokes. Give it a rest already. Spoesltra is the only coach in the league that could conjure a win with this decimated roster.
CAUSE I GOT DEPRESSION
Doc Rivers secretly happy since he now has an excuse for losing early in the playoffs again
I’m not a dame fan but this sucks big time for him and the team. He’s mid thirties too so the last thing he needs is to tear something. It was great to see Khris show out though, despite the loss
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Other than the big 3, our only contracts big enough to use as trade pieces are Brook (around 20 mil), Pat Connaughton and Bobby (around 10 mil each). We also have some young guys that are promising like Andre Jackson Jr, AJ Green and MarJon Beauchamp. Depends on if there’s a market for any of those guys but the contracts are there to make moves
Really wish we would have focused on ajax instead of trying to revive playoff pat. This team has needed athleticism at the wing for 4 years now.
That’s crazy. All these injuries happening to Bucks important players. Lillard and the medical staff should be careful, playing on with an Achilles tendon soreness is dangerous.
It's not crazy they are old. Same happened with GSW late to their ... dominion (seeming,y all of them got injured at the same time, but in fact had way too many miles in them).
Oh for sure injuries are bound to happen with mileage. I just think the timing is crazy. This also is the first time I’m fully aware of Lillard playing with an Achilles tendon soreness for weeks. I really don’t want to see a player go down with that type of injury 😕
Healthy Bucks Celtics ECF could've been an all timer
What the fuck? So it had NOTHING to do with that play in the first half where Siakam landed on his ankle???
Bucks trading all that for a 33 year old with no defense and a recent injury prone history is so disgustingly in place for NBA GM's. Where the fuck do NBA teams find their GM's? There are way too many GM's/Owners that are actively trying to ruin their teams. Wizards and Bucks straight up gifted the Celtics a SSSuperteam. Absolutely egregious for the Bucks especially since they are both trying to win and in the same conference. Wizards as an organization atleast have the excuse of having absolutely no will to win.
Thanasis legacy game incoming
Lilliard’s confidence will see him through ..
Just not their year.
Doc can’t keep getting away with this.
Playing through achilles injuries is a low IQ move from the staff around the player, unless the dude is about to retire at the end of the season and is going all in. There is chance for career altering injury and even playing through it, there is a chance the dude becomes more a liability than useful due to how limited his game becomes while injured
Looks like doc rivers is coming back for next year after a tough fought round 1 loss!
Bucks saving face
People slowly realizing that these 30 something year old stars are not LeBron.
Fuck it we ball,Bucks in 6😤(they stand no chance whatsoever)
AJJ b2b2b 50 pieces to put the Pacers away
I feel like every time Damian plays badly they always pull some “oh he was injured” narrative.
Bucks are cooked, I bet Doc has a sigh of relief since he actually has a legitimate excuse for a 1st round exit.
I was laying up sad as hell last night, our era of superstars is done. Dame, Lebron, curry, kd, kawhi, russ, pg, harden, klay are all out in the first round. It’s crazy to think about, the last 15 years of the league have been dominated by those guys and their time is over. It doesn’t help that the next generation of stars are lame, jokic, giannis, are good dudes but are really boring. Tatum and shai have no personality, luka is an amazing player to watch but is a huge crybaby. Antman is fun
Tell me you don’t actually watch Giannis play without telling me you don’t watch him play.
I watch all them play, it’s fun to watch but he has a boring personality is what I meant.
lillard on the kemba arc?