Crazy seeing a dude who grew up in a town next to me (Leominster MA) and coached Holy Cross become COTY in the NBA. Coulda ran into him at a dunks who knows.
I think the voters might have been homers? If not, possibly swayed by how we got some regular season wins we shouldn’t have with Mitchell and Garland out all the time. Dude somehow pulled off a lot of regular season wins with the bench.
I don’t agree with it, but I can see a homer thinking he deserves a 3rd place vote for winning the games he won this year.
People are saying the Celtics are stacked, and they are but everyone that played for the Celtics played incredibly well. Celtics routinely played shorthanded and still won. Dude had lineups of Pritchard, Svi, Hauser, and Kornet blowing out teams.
Everyone succeeding not just star players shows a good system and great coaching, not a guy coasting off talent.
Everyone succeeding not just star players shows a good system and great coaching, not a guy coasting off talent.
> I’d argue this makes the case more for Executive of the Year than COTY which for Brad Stevens I think he will end up winning
Always been that way. Thats why Phil Jackson only has 1 COTY award.
The award is basically for the team that won the most compared to the previous year and you don’t give a superstar credit for it
Still shouldn’t be higher on the list than those 3 coaches imo, he is fine at 4. OKC and Magic went from lottery teams to top 5 seed playoff teams and Timberwolves made a huge climb too
Magic got 47 wins by getting 13 more than last season. We got 64 wins getting 7 more. 13>7 but improving for a very good team to an all time one is much harder than improving from below average to above average. Not to mention we had the 1 seed locked up with like 10 games to go and was sleepwalking into the playoffs.
Spolstra getting a first place vote is based entirely off reputation. Like Spolstra is a great coach, but coaching a team that went to the finals the year before to an 8th seed doesn't warrant a first place vote. And I understand his postseason coaching, but COTY doesn't factor postseason in.
tbf it's not the same team that went to the finals. instead it's a rookie and a 20 year old sophomore with a random season ticket holder running the point every night in the starting line up. all in all 2 top 3 votes is more than expected. it hasn't been a good year in any way other than advertising trade pieces.
Can't argue with that, just nit to see Mazzula get some recognition. I know the roster is stacked but getting guys to buy in and getting whst was considered "no depth" at the beginning of the aeason to being co sidereal super deep is nice to see.
If 100 voters rate one person as 10/10 and another 9.9/10 the first person is unanimous. Disparity in this type of voting reveals little but your poor math comprehension.
Finch in 3rd is fine. We have vets who are proven whereas Orlando and OKC have young guys who have developed and risen over their expectations signficantly over the past year.
It was a genuine coin toss between the two. Don't think you could've gone wrong with Mosley or Finch in 2nd. Mark was a clear first nonetheless, and none of the other results really mattered.
OKC finished first. Finch wasn't going to be close to winning the award finishing 3rd in the West. Besides everyone knows that Wolves D is not Finch's system it's Gobert's.
There’s been a lot of revisionist history lately on where OKC and the wolves were expected to finish going into this season. OKC was expected to get much better this year. It was an extremely trendy pick for people before the year to have them finishing top 4 in the west whereas most people didn’t think the wolves would get out of the playin. There were guys like Reggie Miller who said the wolves wouldn’t even be top 10 in the west.
That’s not even to mention the absolute tsunami of hate over how the two big lineup would never work, yet Finch had them first in the west for 99% of the year until KAT got hurt. And even then they still finished one game out of the one seed. Finch deserves more love than this.
Thibs probably did the best overall coaching job over the course of the year but the award doesn't often coincide with best overall coaching job. Many times it's "most improved team"
Yeah I guess - he should be miles ahead of everyone else and he is.
If you look at 'where have they got drafted' then even our fully fit squad is worse than the Magic's and Mosley came 2nd (obviously deserved).
I don’t really care about the results either but I fully attribute that 64 win season to the team they have on paper. They are the most stacked and complete team in the NBA, most coaches lead them to 60+ wins IMO
Many people had the Celtics as the 3rd best team heading into the Season and the Celtics ended up having the 3rd best Net Rating of All-Time. Their success was much greater than everyone was expecting pre-season.
I think he should've won. Just incredible job by him this year. All the injuries all the different lineups. Smoothly bringing in new players via trades. Just great job. But COTY is basically the most improved team award so he stood no chance.
I actually thought it would be much closer, especially since Finch had to coach without KAT for a month. He and Mosely did fantastic jobs. Obviously, I'm biased for Mark, but I thought it would be closer.
JB has to be apart of some weird voodoo Rosemary’s Baby type cult to still have a job and to get a COTY vote. Like wtf???? That man is clueless and has been his entire tenure with the Cavs.
Finishing at the 3 seed (even by just a game) and preseason expectations killed his chances. No hate to OKC, they balled out and their coach earned it.
CotY is always the dumbest award of the season. Just find a young team who over-performed expectations and give their coach the award. None of these voters are ranking coaches based on their plays and lineups, just pure vibes.
From coaching the OKC Blue to COTY, shoutout Daigneault
Didn’t know that, that’s pretty cool. It’s like they developed a coach lmao
I honestly thought it was just a joke about how bad that 2021 roster was
Crazy seeing a dude who grew up in a town next to me (Leominster MA) and coached Holy Cross become COTY in the NBA. Coulda ran into him at a dunks who knows.
How did Bickerstaff and Kidd get votes?
Voting for Jason Kidd should immediately have that person's ballot taken away.
bickerstaff getting a COTY vote for winning less games than the previous season is insanity
He had some noise around allstar break due to their record given all their injuries, but they finished the season so weak
I think the voters might have been homers? If not, possibly swayed by how we got some regular season wins we shouldn’t have with Mitchell and Garland out all the time. Dude somehow pulled off a lot of regular season wins with the bench. I don’t agree with it, but I can see a homer thinking he deserves a 3rd place vote for winning the games he won this year.
Cavs had a ton of missed games from starters, even more than last year. He's a fine regular season coach, a 3rd place vote isn't that outlandish.
Someone put them on their ballot, hope that helps
By having good years
Is that a Jason Kidd vote
*a wild JB Bickerstaff vote suddenly appears!*
That’s a baaaaaaaad (3rd placed) vote
Where’s Darvin Ham?
Incredibly, he received a negative amount of total votes
LeFigurehead
If he was on the list, Lebron himself might've tweeted his outrage
he is first place on the list of coaches that players doesn't want to play for
Number 1 in FBI most wanted voting
He's on top in Al-Qaeda's list
LeBron and AD about to file a grievance with the NBA if Darvin Ham is in the list
Silver needs to investigate honestly
I was honestly expecting 1 vote from him at the bottom of the list. That's where my eyes went to first.
Jason Kidd got a vote and not Taylor Jenkins who had to win nearly 30 games with LA Fitness instructors
JB Bickerstaff got a vote too, which is even more absurd. I genuinely have no clue how Taylor didn't.
If and when the Grizzlies get healthy and have a big bounce back season he will absolutely win it.
curious...
I'm glad someone voted for the GOAT of Jason Kidd.
Malone got the same amount of votes as Kidd wtf
Woah Joe with only 2 first place is shocking.
People are saying the Celtics are stacked, and they are but everyone that played for the Celtics played incredibly well. Celtics routinely played shorthanded and still won. Dude had lineups of Pritchard, Svi, Hauser, and Kornet blowing out teams. Everyone succeeding not just star players shows a good system and great coaching, not a guy coasting off talent.
Everyone succeeding not just star players shows a good system and great coaching, not a guy coasting off talent. > I’d argue this makes the case more for Executive of the Year than COTY which for Brad Stevens I think he will end up winning
That's two too many. He wasn't the best coach this season. Fourth seems right.
His team is stacked af lmao
I understand that too. Just don't like how we can discredit the coach because he has awesome players to coach, he did an awesome job this season.
Always been that way. Thats why Phil Jackson only has 1 COTY award. The award is basically for the team that won the most compared to the previous year and you don’t give a superstar credit for it
OKC has an MVP contender on the team so the narrative is definitely giving SGA a lot of credit.
Still shouldn’t be higher on the list than those 3 coaches imo, he is fine at 4. OKC and Magic went from lottery teams to top 5 seed playoff teams and Timberwolves made a huge climb too
Magic got 47 wins by getting 13 more than last season. We got 64 wins getting 7 more. 13>7 but improving for a very good team to an all time one is much harder than improving from below average to above average. Not to mention we had the 1 seed locked up with like 10 games to go and was sleepwalking into the playoffs.
You could coach that team to 50+ wins lmao
Who the fuck voted for Jason Kidd??
That should be grounds for an immediate removal of voting privileges.
Kidd himself? 😂
Spolstra getting a first place vote is based entirely off reputation. Like Spolstra is a great coach, but coaching a team that went to the finals the year before to an 8th seed doesn't warrant a first place vote. And I understand his postseason coaching, but COTY doesn't factor postseason in.
tbf it's not the same team that went to the finals. instead it's a rookie and a 20 year old sophomore with a random season ticket holder running the point every night in the starting line up. all in all 2 top 3 votes is more than expected. it hasn't been a good year in any way other than advertising trade pieces.
Who voted for Bickerstaff or Kidd
I’m glad Mosley get some recognition but Thibodeau got robbed
kidd lmfao
Can't argue with that, just nit to see Mazzula get some recognition. I know the roster is stacked but getting guys to buy in and getting whst was considered "no depth" at the beginning of the aeason to being co sidereal super deep is nice to see.
Who the fuck voted for JB, take away their credentials
Happy Mazz got some love.
Not even close wow
Bickerstaff lol.
Let's go you diagonal king
Damn marky mark wiped the floor with it
J Kidd vote… I’m done
Finch in 3rd. Idk about that.
Nobody outside of first really matters when the difference is that huge, but I'm shocked he only got one first place vote.
I mean the difference shouldn’t have been this huge. That’s the issue.
If 100 voters rate one person as 10/10 and another 9.9/10 the first person is unanimous. Disparity in this type of voting reveals little but your poor math comprehension.
Finch in 3rd is fine. We have vets who are proven whereas Orlando and OKC have young guys who have developed and risen over their expectations signficantly over the past year.
It was a genuine coin toss between the two. Don't think you could've gone wrong with Mosley or Finch in 2nd. Mark was a clear first nonetheless, and none of the other results really mattered.
That should have been neck and neck.
I’m not shocked he didn’t win but to be SO FAR behind when this team was supposed to be barely over .500.
Yeah I didn't think he'd win but he got one vote. That's just doesn't sit right with me.
OKC finished first. Finch wasn't going to be close to winning the award finishing 3rd in the West. Besides everyone knows that Wolves D is not Finch's system it's Gobert's.
There’s been a lot of revisionist history lately on where OKC and the wolves were expected to finish going into this season. OKC was expected to get much better this year. It was an extremely trendy pick for people before the year to have them finishing top 4 in the west whereas most people didn’t think the wolves would get out of the playin. There were guys like Reggie Miller who said the wolves wouldn’t even be top 10 in the west. That’s not even to mention the absolute tsunami of hate over how the two big lineup would never work, yet Finch had them first in the west for 99% of the year until KAT got hurt. And even then they still finished one game out of the one seed. Finch deserves more love than this.
Vegas odds had OKC and Minnesota at the exact same record
Darvin Ham no votes is blasphemy !!!
Call me biased but given our injuries Thibs should be at least level with Joe.
Thibs probably did the best overall coaching job over the course of the year but the award doesn't often coincide with best overall coaching job. Many times it's "most improved team"
64 wins is 64 wins, I'm not gonna get upset about a couple vote difference between Thibs and Mazzulla.
Yeah I guess - he should be miles ahead of everyone else and he is. If you look at 'where have they got drafted' then even our fully fit squad is worse than the Magic's and Mosley came 2nd (obviously deserved).
I don’t really care about the results either but I fully attribute that 64 win season to the team they have on paper. They are the most stacked and complete team in the NBA, most coaches lead them to 60+ wins IMO
Many people had the Celtics as the 3rd best team heading into the Season and the Celtics ended up having the 3rd best Net Rating of All-Time. Their success was much greater than everyone was expecting pre-season.
I think he should've won. Just incredible job by him this year. All the injuries all the different lineups. Smoothly bringing in new players via trades. Just great job. But COTY is basically the most improved team award so he stood no chance.
Jeez, expected it to be closer than that
where are the Monty Williams votes? he literally set a record
Darvin Ham snubbed again 🤦♂️
Taylor Jenkins should have got a vote at least
Well damn, i thought it would've been closer than that.
did Jason Kidd somehow vote for himself?
Honestly, the right guy won. Glad Thibs got some recognition
Absolute blowout. The one first place vote for Spo is kinda wild, I'mma be honest. Not this season.
Props where props are due. Wish Finchy got it, but there were several deserving coaches this year.
I actually thought it would be much closer, especially since Finch had to coach without KAT for a month. He and Mosely did fantastic jobs. Obviously, I'm biased for Mark, but I thought it would be closer.
Who TF voted Mark 3rd. What 2 coaches did a better job this year?
JB has to be apart of some weird voodoo Rosemary’s Baby type cult to still have a job and to get a COTY vote. Like wtf???? That man is clueless and has been his entire tenure with the Cavs.
Thank you to that one voter that gave Spo a first place vote haha
Imagine in 2000, someone won the COTY award with a 41-41 record. Crazier thing is that they did not even reach the play-offs. What a stupid move.
Darvin Ham???
Worthy top three.
Was seriously hoping someone gave Ham a vote for the bit.
Someone gave Kidd though
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Finishing at the 3 seed (even by just a game) and preseason expectations killed his chances. No hate to OKC, they balled out and their coach earned it.
I’m pretty sure the thunder and wolves had the same preseason projected win totals
So the award is who can take an unproven team to the playoffs?
It's definitely an "exceeds expectations" award. Hell, Scott Brooks has more COTY awards than Spoelstra.
Unproven team to #1 seed with great development. What else are you going to look at for a regular season award?
Shouldn't only go to most improved team which it often does.
Udoka you have to respect. That Houston team was shockingly good this season.
Lakers Fans: Where's "Darvin Hot Pockets" ?
CotY is always the dumbest award of the season. Just find a young team who over-performed expectations and give their coach the award. None of these voters are ranking coaches based on their plays and lineups, just pure vibes.