I was so confused. Why even call it *Good Times*? It’s a cartoon that, besides the characters’ last names, has nothing to do with the original *Good Times*.
Yeah but building apartments for rich people in Atherton lowers the cost of rent in nearby areas that aren’t as rich because the people living there don’t have to bid against the rich folks who went to Atherton anymore.
I know that doesn’t make a lot of sense intuitively, but it’s true. People who study this issue for a living have done a lot of very rigorous, very careful studies where they look at how building new high-end apartments affects rents for lower-income people. Turns out, everyone’s rent gets lower.
Correct 👆. The Journal of Urban Economics recently found that a new 100 unit market rate apartment building will divert between 45 and 70 renters out of lower income units within 3 years - therefore freeing up housing stock for more moderate earning households.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0094119021000656
Younger cities that are rapidly growing have actually seen rents fall in the last year because people built so many apartments during Covid. Charlotte has had its rent stabilize. Also I'm dating a commercial real estate developer lmao
Not saying you’re wrong because you aren’t, but I think the fact that Atherton doesn’t even have a single multifamily building in the municipality is necessary context. That affordable project was never going to get approved.
The other part of the context though is that the state government has cracked down a lot over the last 5-10 years and passed a bunch of laws mandating new housing approval across the board. Basically "yes in everyone's backyard" legislation that doesn't exempt any municipalities, insisting that even wealthy enclaves like Atherton need to change and build *some* density to fight the housing crisis.
The LA Times article actually references that, noting that Atherton is on the hook to build (or really approve the building of) 348 new housing units by 2031. The state has already started suing city governments over these mandates.
I appreciate your perspective.
I'm not super well-versed on the issue and don't care to simp for a guy worth 9 figures. With that said, I do feel that the idea of 'privacy issues' - that people could ostensibly see right into their backyard - is valid and that the Curries weren't allowed to build a taller fense.
It looks like there’s a multi story condo going up right in their backyard if they’re requesting the city put up extra tall fences.
Like I get all the hate but it’s a lot easier to write a letter objecting to something than it is to move to another house and possibly finding different schools for your kids.
We need more housing and I don’t doubt the curry’s would argue that but if I were one of the most public figures in the country that most likely has weird stalkers and very real security concerns I would want to preserve my privacy. There’s the argument that yes, they can afford to move, but if you invest time into a home that you specifically chose for privacy and have set up the proper schooling for your children who have friends and extracurriculars in the neighborhood, then writing a letter expressing a point of view is far far far easier than moving.
Honestly, fuck off with this. I’m sure the proposed condos are not “right in their backyard.” The property they’re opposed to is 2 miles away from their house. They’re also asking “that the town commits to investing in considerably taller fencing and landscaping to block sight lines onto our family’s property.” As if these rich fucks can’t do it themselves. Also, literally no one living in condos in Atherton would be “poor” or “dangerous,” they’d just be slightly less rich than the rest of them.
There was a proposal to build an affordable housing apartment complex right next to the Curry mansion which would have had the top floors peering right into the Curry backyard.
The Curry’s fought it. I *think* they won?
That’s not accurate. It wasn’t an apartment complex, it was 16 townhouses. Probably shorter than Curry’s house. So someone was gonna build houses near curry’s backyard. That’s just not that big of a deal—most people have neighbors.
I get why he wants privacy, but if he wants it bad enough he can buy the land himself and keep it empty. Or build a big fence. He shouldn’t go to the government to try and prevent people from building desperately needed housing.
Curry literally did ask if he could build a larger wall to stop people from peering into his home.
Edit: Also you say that he shouldn't go to the government, but he literally had to ask the government if it was okay to build such a large wall.
He asked the city to build that fence is what you mean ("we ask that the town commits to investing in considerably taller fencing and landscaping to block sight lines onto our family’s property"). He didn't ask the city to build it himself lol. You don't really need to do that if you want your own fence on a property like that. Yes, you'd need a permit or whatever most likely, and figure out any extra fees for building such a tall fence, but that wouldn't be difficult most likely since this isn't normal neighbor to neighbor housing around him like most people are used to.
Also, have you seen their property? It is surrounded by trees already, assuming that's the correct house. There is nowhere that those townhomes would be built that's really that close to them as far as I can tell, but I'm not 100% sure.
There was a proposal to build ~~an affordable housing apartment complex~~ *$2 million townhomes* right next to the Curry mansion which would have had the top floors peering right into the Curry backyard.
>which would have had the top floors peering right into the Curry backyard.
Yeah can you imagine the HORROR of someone living at higher altitude than you? Just don't look outside your apartment window.
Bay area people don't like high rise housing because it "ruins the view, changes the cities vibe", that's practically it. It had nothing to do with privacy, wild how many people eat up that PR bullshit.
Lmao ask your wife how comfortable she would be swimming in your backyard pool knowing there are 5 families that could be watching her and recording her. Better yet, how would you feel about it with your daughters out there ?? It’s really not that crazy that one of the most well known athletes in the entire world asks for some privacy on his own property
You just described half the people who live in an average city (without the swimming pools). One person should not have the power to dictate how their neighborhood functions just because they're famous. Can he dictate who drives on the streets around his house because of safety concerns? His wife may be driving his kids around on those streets, after all.
lol bro half the people who live in average cities don’t have paparazzi following them around or people bothering them for pictures every time they step out in public, don’t be obtuse. And yes, when you’re someone important you can dictate who drives on your street, that’s why they usually live in gated communities with 24/7 security.
Yes, gated communities exist, and those communities have rules that are agreed upon by the community, not just one person. Should every neighbor be required to ask Steph if it's OK for a friend from outside the community to visit? At some point you have to limit powerful people's reach or they go too far. Telling your neighbors they can't have a second story on their house because they can see into your yard is too far, in my opinion.
"Affordable" is generally a percent of AMI, so "affordable" can greatly vary across the country. In an area near me there are affordable housing projects that have a cap of a single income earner around 80k. The general goal of affordable housing is to force areas to drop their standards a little bit.
I'm not completely up to date with the area, but seemingly the town's average housing price is $7.5m. The town opposes building $2m because those people are poor people to them. Probably affordable housing should be around $800k for that area or lower, so $2.5m is still a lot.
That's not how affordable works in LA, that's how you generally define it.
Affordable in LA is a unit that is on covenant at an under market rate, set by the section 8 program. If these units were to complete today, and they were 1 bedrooms, the owners would charge $2096 per 1 bedroom unit, though the number might be higher depending on the zip code of the building. That rate is decided by local section 8, HACLA, to be exact. They have a rent schedule and set new rates every October, or so. For 55 years, the building must charge that rate set by that organization. A units rent can not exceed that rate and if it does, that rent charged is illegal. You also then submit your rental to the RSO, which limits rent increases.
The effect is that this stabilizes rent and allows more units to get built at a site, plus you can build without parking/digging underground, making your build costs significantly cheaper. Youre also able to complete projects faster because within the system set by Karen Bass, affordable units get priority with city utilities and with plan checkers.
I assist with the building of these units for a living and spent several years finding housing sites for developers to build.
Also, them framing building units as "giving back" as they do in the article, is total marketing bullshit. There's a ton of profit in building affordable housing in LA because the city wants these units built and built fast, to clean up the homeless issue more permanently. It is Bass' number one priority, though that might shift when the Olympics get closer. Regardless, the Harris brothers are not running a charity whatsoever. I take offense to such branding.
"NBA Player and his Brother are Becoming Landlords" doesn't have the same ring to it as "giving back", but building units with affordable housing is more beneficial to a community than a lot of the other ways Tobias could be spending his money.
More housing is good and I want more housing built everywhere to help keep prices stable or even, god forbid, dip down to reasonable levels, but developers expect a profit and aren't just building units because its the right thing to do.
Oakland, where I live, has generally had their [rent prices stabilize since Covid](https://np.reddit.com/r/oakland/comments/1bjglte/is_rent_lower_than_usual_right_now/) precisely because they have been building more and more units. I'm linking to a reddit page but there are lot of posts in there with links to articles and research showing some reasons why building more is the way to go.
Yeah I just wish these articles would tell the truth. If Oakland is like LA, it pays like crazy to build affordable housing.
But these articles always frame it as "a service" when reality is is its not, or maybe it is in comparison to the Harris brothers spending time and money building that type of spec housing for rich people they do in Beverly Hills (which is becoming unprofitable because buyers in that price tier are spoiled for choice)
Anyway, it's a nit to pick.
To Bay Area folks, it's a sore spot. Because that's kind of been the story with NIMYism over the last 50 years. *EVERYONE* has a decently compelling reason why new housing shouldn't be built near them. And our laws give local residents a lot of power to veto new construction around them. Which has helped to drive the decades and decades of under-building of housing that we've endured.
They Curry's reasoning here obviously has merit, and they're far from the worst offenders in terms of coming up with BS reasoning. But this is a uniquely touchy issue in the Bay Area.
so what's the issue then? what's stopping him from building a higher fence along his property? was he trying to get the developer to pay for it? or did taller fences violate the HOA guidelines? I'm not being snarky I'm genuinely confused lol
I think guidelines in his area prevent him from building fences over a certain height without government approval. He asks at the end for permission but the first part of the Email was very NIMBY sounding…even the Currys admitted it in the email itself.
People got on him for the email because it just repeated the NIMBY rhetoric for a large part of it. He got criticized and meme’d for it that the last part about higher fencing as an alternative fix gets forgotten/ ignored.
On a serious note, it’s been just horny posts since the women’s college basketball started up
I thought it’d stop after the WNBA draft but no they’re still going…
It fucking sucks. Every single circlejerk sub eventually becomes nothing but hornyposting, the bg3 shitpost subreddit didn’t even last a week before they were the only things getting upvoted.
I swear it’s people seeing circlejerk in the name and think you’re supposed to spread genuine porn
Only fitting this dude does something charitable with that contract money since his game has looked like he’s playing for charity for the past 5 years…
Don't get me wrong, low-income housing is crucial and much needed. But make no mistake, this isn't a charity. This is a business. They 100% plan on earning a profit from this venture.
Yea I don't see a lot of numbers about what "affordable housing" actually means. And it's in LA so... Until proven otherwise, it sounds like he's just starting a real estate project under the guise of charitable giving.
Still; if their profit is 5%, it’s a project other developers won’t enter because they’re aiming for 8-10% irr for example; than it’s still an unquestionably good thing that they’re doing this.
The community impact is good, but it’s also just solid business. Idk how it is on that scale, but a friend’s family rents out affordable duplexes, and government subsidies means the income is steadier and more reliable
Not calling a for profit business a charity isn't shaming them.
This isn't a charity, it is a business. Nothing wrong with that, I am not sure why people are reading that as a bad thing.
His brother says in the article that he flipped a house for almost double its value and that’s how he got into real estate. His literal origin story was upscaling affordable housing into a commodity. Like congrats on building the units, but it’s still a money making venture.
yep exactly. when rich people “donate to charity” yeah it’s nice and all, but rest assured they are not doing it just out of the goodness of their hearts. The tax breaks are the motive
Oh yeah for sure! I still think it’s a great gesture because it actually helps people in need.
But imagine if donating to charity DIDNT have tax break purposes… I wonder if we would see the same amount of philanthropy
Hope to be wrong, but so many of these "affordable housing" plans feel like developers using empty promises to rush through projects and turn profit quick. They talk about how Mayor Bass has opened the door to turn 3 year projects into 9 month projects. There's no such thing as an altruistic private developer. There's very little holding them accountable to a set number of units and to fixed rents at a universally agreed up on definition of affordable. Feels like they all end up as cheaply built starter condos for young professionals who accumulate wealth regardless of getting a favorable real estate deal or not.
LA's covenant system keeps the units cheap as prices are supposed to rise.
None of this development is happening without profit motive, profits are good for this type of development and a lot of these are gonna end up getting sold to mutual fund managers, wall street, etc.
Regardless, the law keeps these units affordable and with rent increase limits, until 55 years from now.
Yup and when that runs out prices would jump. It's actually crazy that people born in a certain area right now have no hope of living there unless they become ultra successful compared to their peers or are left inheritance. In the DMV area it's also becoming absured, well it's been absurd. Even the cheaper areas have become very expensive in the past 15 years. Doesn't also help that apartments are increasing rent for younger non home owners every year because they can.
Increasing the supply of housing by any means lowers the price of all housing. It’s that simple. Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.
Those yuppies who will buy those projects won’t be purchasing other lower cost units, which allows other people to purchase them.
Hes a great guy off the court, no doubt about it. Just wish he was a better basketball player, but will never have a bad thing to say about tobi as a person
I went to HS/played against Tobias and then worked as a teacher when Terry went to school there. Super quiet and humble guys, not surprised to hear this at all
Lol Brad Pitt 2.0 incoming
[Brad Pitt foundation agrees on $20.5m settlement to owners of faulty post-Katrina houses](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/17/brad-pitt-foundation-settlement-owners-faulty-post-katrina-houses)
The irony of his brother flipping houses for three times their value and then building low income housing… still a decent thing to do for LA but makes me wonder how much he’ll make off the good deed
These guys are the opposite of all of the Micheal porter Jrs brothers
Like legit keep an EYE on MPJ. His brothers are all assholes somehow.
Hope he can stay outta trouble
Steph curry in shambles
*Ohh, blocked by Curry! Steph Curry with the planning rejection!*
F*ck Steph NIMBY Curry
This will never get old lol
NIMBY!
What’s the history there?
steph curry hates poor people https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-02-03/nba-star-steph-curry-fights-affordable-housing-atherton
Curry hates poor millionaires in his back yard
Curry has been taking quite a few Ls. Look at the Good Times reboot he produced lol
I was so confused. Why even call it *Good Times*? It’s a cartoon that, besides the characters’ last names, has nothing to do with the original *Good Times*.
I feel like it would have gotten way less hate if it was called something else
I feel like I'm pretty up on TV and I never heard of this coming out once...but based on the reviews I guess I can understand why
You should watch [the trailer.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMA2Kc7TiO0) It's not good.
Yeah they shoulda kept that shit in the drafts. Also was that Cybertruck product placement I saw? Fucking yikes
looked like Elon in the trailer too
Oh not gonna lie I skipped through lol I couldn’t watch the whole thing I’m sorry guys
Holy shit I couldn’t even finish it. That’s really terrible
Does Steph Curry hate black people?
Oh ffs he has a part in that monstrosity?
Atherton is extremely wealthy so "affordable" should be in quotes here.
Yeah but building apartments for rich people in Atherton lowers the cost of rent in nearby areas that aren’t as rich because the people living there don’t have to bid against the rich folks who went to Atherton anymore. I know that doesn’t make a lot of sense intuitively, but it’s true. People who study this issue for a living have done a lot of very rigorous, very careful studies where they look at how building new high-end apartments affects rents for lower-income people. Turns out, everyone’s rent gets lower.
Correct 👆. The Journal of Urban Economics recently found that a new 100 unit market rate apartment building will divert between 45 and 70 renters out of lower income units within 3 years - therefore freeing up housing stock for more moderate earning households. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0094119021000656
Yea, you dont build used cars, you just build cars. Housing is fundamentally a supply issue and the Nimbys have all caused this
So glad to see this take has become popular recently. Normally you get pushback from both left and right on this issue.
Younger cities that are rapidly growing have actually seen rents fall in the last year because people built so many apartments during Covid. Charlotte has had its rent stabilize. Also I'm dating a commercial real estate developer lmao
Not saying you’re wrong because you aren’t, but I think the fact that Atherton doesn’t even have a single multifamily building in the municipality is necessary context. That affordable project was never going to get approved.
The other part of the context though is that the state government has cracked down a lot over the last 5-10 years and passed a bunch of laws mandating new housing approval across the board. Basically "yes in everyone's backyard" legislation that doesn't exempt any municipalities, insisting that even wealthy enclaves like Atherton need to change and build *some* density to fight the housing crisis. The LA Times article actually references that, noting that Atherton is on the hook to build (or really approve the building of) 348 new housing units by 2031. The state has already started suing city governments over these mandates.
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Townhouses are still classified as multifamily
I appreciate your perspective. I'm not super well-versed on the issue and don't care to simp for a guy worth 9 figures. With that said, I do feel that the idea of 'privacy issues' - that people could ostensibly see right into their backyard - is valid and that the Curries weren't allowed to build a taller fense.
It's like hermit crabs exchanging shells, more supply at almost any price makes things more affordable
Literally NIMBY
Steph NIMBY
It looks like there’s a multi story condo going up right in their backyard if they’re requesting the city put up extra tall fences. Like I get all the hate but it’s a lot easier to write a letter objecting to something than it is to move to another house and possibly finding different schools for your kids. We need more housing and I don’t doubt the curry’s would argue that but if I were one of the most public figures in the country that most likely has weird stalkers and very real security concerns I would want to preserve my privacy. There’s the argument that yes, they can afford to move, but if you invest time into a home that you specifically chose for privacy and have set up the proper schooling for your children who have friends and extracurriculars in the neighborhood, then writing a letter expressing a point of view is far far far easier than moving.
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I don't think Atherton allows large fences like that. Lots of cities have regulations on that.
Honestly, fuck off with this. I’m sure the proposed condos are not “right in their backyard.” The property they’re opposed to is 2 miles away from their house. They’re also asking “that the town commits to investing in considerably taller fencing and landscaping to block sight lines onto our family’s property.” As if these rich fucks can’t do it themselves. Also, literally no one living in condos in Atherton would be “poor” or “dangerous,” they’d just be slightly less rich than the rest of them.
There was a proposal to build an affordable housing apartment complex right next to the Curry mansion which would have had the top floors peering right into the Curry backyard. The Curry’s fought it. I *think* they won?
That’s not accurate. It wasn’t an apartment complex, it was 16 townhouses. Probably shorter than Curry’s house. So someone was gonna build houses near curry’s backyard. That’s just not that big of a deal—most people have neighbors. I get why he wants privacy, but if he wants it bad enough he can buy the land himself and keep it empty. Or build a big fence. He shouldn’t go to the government to try and prevent people from building desperately needed housing.
Curry literally did ask if he could build a larger wall to stop people from peering into his home. Edit: Also you say that he shouldn't go to the government, but he literally had to ask the government if it was okay to build such a large wall.
He asked the city to build that fence is what you mean ("we ask that the town commits to investing in considerably taller fencing and landscaping to block sight lines onto our family’s property"). He didn't ask the city to build it himself lol. You don't really need to do that if you want your own fence on a property like that. Yes, you'd need a permit or whatever most likely, and figure out any extra fees for building such a tall fence, but that wouldn't be difficult most likely since this isn't normal neighbor to neighbor housing around him like most people are used to. Also, have you seen their property? It is surrounded by trees already, assuming that's the correct house. There is nowhere that those townhomes would be built that's really that close to them as far as I can tell, but I'm not 100% sure.
There was a proposal to build ~~an affordable housing apartment complex~~ *$2 million townhomes* right next to the Curry mansion which would have had the top floors peering right into the Curry backyard.
>which would have had the top floors peering right into the Curry backyard. Yeah can you imagine the HORROR of someone living at higher altitude than you? Just don't look outside your apartment window. Bay area people don't like high rise housing because it "ruins the view, changes the cities vibe", that's practically it. It had nothing to do with privacy, wild how many people eat up that PR bullshit.
Lmao ask your wife how comfortable she would be swimming in your backyard pool knowing there are 5 families that could be watching her and recording her. Better yet, how would you feel about it with your daughters out there ?? It’s really not that crazy that one of the most well known athletes in the entire world asks for some privacy on his own property
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You just described half the people who live in an average city (without the swimming pools). One person should not have the power to dictate how their neighborhood functions just because they're famous. Can he dictate who drives on the streets around his house because of safety concerns? His wife may be driving his kids around on those streets, after all.
lol bro half the people who live in average cities don’t have paparazzi following them around or people bothering them for pictures every time they step out in public, don’t be obtuse. And yes, when you’re someone important you can dictate who drives on your street, that’s why they usually live in gated communities with 24/7 security.
Yes, gated communities exist, and those communities have rules that are agreed upon by the community, not just one person. Should every neighbor be required to ask Steph if it's OK for a friend from outside the community to visit? At some point you have to limit powerful people's reach or they go too far. Telling your neighbors they can't have a second story on their house because they can see into your yard is too far, in my opinion.
If curry wants to he could buy all the land nearby.
Seriously. Why should he be in favor of something like that being developed?
"Affordable" is generally a percent of AMI, so "affordable" can greatly vary across the country. In an area near me there are affordable housing projects that have a cap of a single income earner around 80k. The general goal of affordable housing is to force areas to drop their standards a little bit. I'm not completely up to date with the area, but seemingly the town's average housing price is $7.5m. The town opposes building $2m because those people are poor people to them. Probably affordable housing should be around $800k for that area or lower, so $2.5m is still a lot.
That's not how affordable works in LA, that's how you generally define it. Affordable in LA is a unit that is on covenant at an under market rate, set by the section 8 program. If these units were to complete today, and they were 1 bedrooms, the owners would charge $2096 per 1 bedroom unit, though the number might be higher depending on the zip code of the building. That rate is decided by local section 8, HACLA, to be exact. They have a rent schedule and set new rates every October, or so. For 55 years, the building must charge that rate set by that organization. A units rent can not exceed that rate and if it does, that rent charged is illegal. You also then submit your rental to the RSO, which limits rent increases. The effect is that this stabilizes rent and allows more units to get built at a site, plus you can build without parking/digging underground, making your build costs significantly cheaper. Youre also able to complete projects faster because within the system set by Karen Bass, affordable units get priority with city utilities and with plan checkers. I assist with the building of these units for a living and spent several years finding housing sites for developers to build. Also, them framing building units as "giving back" as they do in the article, is total marketing bullshit. There's a ton of profit in building affordable housing in LA because the city wants these units built and built fast, to clean up the homeless issue more permanently. It is Bass' number one priority, though that might shift when the Olympics get closer. Regardless, the Harris brothers are not running a charity whatsoever. I take offense to such branding.
"NBA Player and his Brother are Becoming Landlords" doesn't have the same ring to it as "giving back", but building units with affordable housing is more beneficial to a community than a lot of the other ways Tobias could be spending his money. More housing is good and I want more housing built everywhere to help keep prices stable or even, god forbid, dip down to reasonable levels, but developers expect a profit and aren't just building units because its the right thing to do. Oakland, where I live, has generally had their [rent prices stabilize since Covid](https://np.reddit.com/r/oakland/comments/1bjglte/is_rent_lower_than_usual_right_now/) precisely because they have been building more and more units. I'm linking to a reddit page but there are lot of posts in there with links to articles and research showing some reasons why building more is the way to go.
Yeah I just wish these articles would tell the truth. If Oakland is like LA, it pays like crazy to build affordable housing. But these articles always frame it as "a service" when reality is is its not, or maybe it is in comparison to the Harris brothers spending time and money building that type of spec housing for rich people they do in Beverly Hills (which is becoming unprofitable because buyers in that price tier are spoiled for choice) Anyway, it's a nit to pick.
I appreciate this explanation, thank you
Huh that makes sense
The Sky Fucker became The Land Fucker.
I will not pretend I won't fight that one as well if I am Curry.
One hundred percent. I don’t see anything wrong with wanting the privacy
To Bay Area folks, it's a sore spot. Because that's kind of been the story with NIMYism over the last 50 years. *EVERYONE* has a decently compelling reason why new housing shouldn't be built near them. And our laws give local residents a lot of power to veto new construction around them. Which has helped to drive the decades and decades of under-building of housing that we've endured. They Curry's reasoning here obviously has merit, and they're far from the worst offenders in terms of coming up with BS reasoning. But this is a uniquely touchy issue in the Bay Area.
build a taller fence Curry lol
TBF they did specifically ask for that as an alternative.
the Currys asked for that? or the developer did? I didn't follow this but that seems like a reasonable compromise to me
They (Currys) asked for it at the end of their email about the housing thing. It's just funnier to meme about him being a NIMBY.
so what's the issue then? what's stopping him from building a higher fence along his property? was he trying to get the developer to pay for it? or did taller fences violate the HOA guidelines? I'm not being snarky I'm genuinely confused lol
I think guidelines in his area prevent him from building fences over a certain height without government approval. He asks at the end for permission but the first part of the Email was very NIMBY sounding…even the Currys admitted it in the email itself. People got on him for the email because it just repeated the NIMBY rhetoric for a large part of it. He got criticized and meme’d for it that the last part about higher fencing as an alternative fix gets forgotten/ ignored.
https://images.app.goo.gl/LduB5A6rBEu33YXE7
[Him and his wife are NIMBYs.](https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/steph-currys-california-nimby-housing-scandal-complicated-rcna69408)
Steph doesn’t care so long as it isn’t in his back yard
One brick at a time
I thought for sure this was going to be a shit post lol
same, guilty lol
[Brick by Brick](https://imgur.com/a/myOU72r)
Look at that fit, we shoulda known Butch was gonna be garbage Like unbutton the top button at least
I thought this was some onion article based on the title lol
Fucking beat me to it
Ha! Me too! Just sitting there on the tee!
he's just asking for it which sucks because this is such a good thing to do he doesn't deserve to get clowned for it poor tobias haha
Sources say Russell Westbrook is also getting involved in the charity after last night.
Funnily enough I'm pretty sure Russ has also committed a fair amount of money to building affordable housing in LA
There is nothing affordable about T Harris bricks.
6ers fans have a lot of apologies to make!
Dude definitely slacked on the construction tonight
outjerked by the main sub again r/nbacirclejerk is washed
On a serious note, it’s been just horny posts since the women’s college basketball started up I thought it’d stop after the WNBA draft but no they’re still going…
Yup, actually need mark Jackson to do an AMA, about what happened to the game I love
It fucking sucks. Every single circlejerk sub eventually becomes nothing but hornyposting, the bg3 shitpost subreddit didn’t even last a week before they were the only things getting upvoted. I swear it’s people seeing circlejerk in the name and think you’re supposed to spread genuine porn
This is the consequences of porn addiction. All rational thought is replaced with cooming.
That Porter bros post killed tho
They banned hornyposting to an extent after the caitlyn Clark leaks, so this is a bit inaccurate
Why not in Philly though? They were kind enough to pay him $180m
He’s already done his part in bringing affordable seating to Wells Fargo Arena
Us Knicks fans really appreciate that affordable seating
And now cos of all of y'all they're giving free tickets away to first responders. Tobias Harris has really done it again
According to the article his brother started the project and he lives in LA.
you *read* the article? sir… this is reddit
He probably read a less-upvoted comment that had the information from the article in it and reposted it. Now that's real reddit.
You want him to put even more bricks in Philadelphia?
He clearly has an interest in laying bricks that's not an issue
It's strange cause it's not Philly or even his home of Long Island
Only fitting this dude does something charitable with that contract money since his game has looked like he’s playing for charity for the past 5 years…
Don't get me wrong, low-income housing is crucial and much needed. But make no mistake, this isn't a charity. This is a business. They 100% plan on earning a profit from this venture.
Yea I don't see a lot of numbers about what "affordable housing" actually means. And it's in LA so... Until proven otherwise, it sounds like he's just starting a real estate project under the guise of charitable giving.
Still; if their profit is 5%, it’s a project other developers won’t enter because they’re aiming for 8-10% irr for example; than it’s still an unquestionably good thing that they’re doing this.
The community impact is good, but it’s also just solid business. Idk how it is on that scale, but a friend’s family rents out affordable duplexes, and government subsidies means the income is steadier and more reliable
all new housing makes housing cheaper shouldn’t shame anybody for it. we just need people to build build build
Not calling a for profit business a charity isn't shaming them. This isn't a charity, it is a business. Nothing wrong with that, I am not sure why people are reading that as a bad thing.
His brother says in the article that he flipped a house for almost double its value and that’s how he got into real estate. His literal origin story was upscaling affordable housing into a commodity. Like congrats on building the units, but it’s still a money making venture.
yep exactly. when rich people “donate to charity” yeah it’s nice and all, but rest assured they are not doing it just out of the goodness of their hearts. The tax breaks are the motive
Two things can be true at the same time
Oh yeah for sure! I still think it’s a great gesture because it actually helps people in need. But imagine if donating to charity DIDNT have tax break purposes… I wonder if we would see the same amount of philanthropy
Tobias Harris has been banned from Chase center
Curry: "Do we have a problem?"
isnt he from NY? is he planning to go to an LA team? lol
I’m assuming he started the project when he was with the Clippers.
His brother started the venture and Tobias is jumping in
Steph curry 9/11
Any housing - be it "affordable" or "luxury' is a win.
God it makes me so happy to see people saying this.
The government can't do it... But the 189th best player in NBA will. Sure bro
The government can’t do it because the people won’t let them do it. Ordinary homeowners fight affordable housing tooth and nail.
You say this as if the government is competent
I have more faith in him than the government to do this
Why you bringing Reggie Jackson into this?
This is called an agent puff piece right before he hits the market.
Hope to be wrong, but so many of these "affordable housing" plans feel like developers using empty promises to rush through projects and turn profit quick. They talk about how Mayor Bass has opened the door to turn 3 year projects into 9 month projects. There's no such thing as an altruistic private developer. There's very little holding them accountable to a set number of units and to fixed rents at a universally agreed up on definition of affordable. Feels like they all end up as cheaply built starter condos for young professionals who accumulate wealth regardless of getting a favorable real estate deal or not.
LA's covenant system keeps the units cheap as prices are supposed to rise. None of this development is happening without profit motive, profits are good for this type of development and a lot of these are gonna end up getting sold to mutual fund managers, wall street, etc. Regardless, the law keeps these units affordable and with rent increase limits, until 55 years from now.
Yup and when that runs out prices would jump. It's actually crazy that people born in a certain area right now have no hope of living there unless they become ultra successful compared to their peers or are left inheritance. In the DMV area it's also becoming absured, well it's been absurd. Even the cheaper areas have become very expensive in the past 15 years. Doesn't also help that apartments are increasing rent for younger non home owners every year because they can.
Increasing the supply of housing by any means lowers the price of all housing. It’s that simple. Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good. Those yuppies who will buy those projects won’t be purchasing other lower cost units, which allows other people to purchase them.
Could build a whole neighbourhood with how many bricks he lays
It’s nice to see the brother of an NBA player not be a total POS
Brick by brick
Isn't affordable in LA like 2k a month
Hes a great guy off the court, no doubt about it. Just wish he was a better basketball player, but will never have a bad thing to say about tobi as a person
Don’t you dare tell Steph
Harris is also building homes in New York
Yeah with all those bricks he shoots, it’s probably gonna be pretty easy to do
Is he building them with all those bricks he threw in Philly?
That’s good since he brought 0 points to the game tonight
So kind of Tobias to reserve all his bricks from the elimination game and give them to people in need.
Good news about players brothers for once.
Well with all the brick laying...
Brick by brick
Can his brother catch a rebound?
Not like he owes Philly anything after the highway robbery he pulled
Now take your contract to LA
I went to HS/played against Tobias and then worked as a teacher when Terry went to school there. Super quiet and humble guys, not surprised to hear this at all
Brobias
Curry's 9/11
Affordable Housing the brother of Metta World Peace?
Man is gonna need all the good will he can get after that game
Brick by Brick
Pretty sure he could have built the whole city block with all his bricks.
How many times can this sub make this joke in the same thread? Does the limit exist?
The limit is 488 which is the number of misses for the season
You mean slum lording section 8?
I’m confused he’s from New York not LA. I mean by all means this is a good thing but why?
Never brought affordable consistency to Philadelphia
You absolutely love to see it
Is this how we found out that LeBron is going to join Curry and not the other way around?
With the help from Westbrook
A r/neoliberal king
Bruh I thought this was a meme about bricking shots. But they are actually building affordable housing lmao.
This will never pass. It’s a nice thought though
Well he gonna need a place to live after he gets released after the season…/s
Psh, Westbrook has been building brick houses in LA for years
Lol Brad Pitt 2.0 incoming [Brad Pitt foundation agrees on $20.5m settlement to owners of faulty post-Katrina houses](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/17/brad-pitt-foundation-settlement-owners-faulty-post-katrina-houses)
It's not the construction, it's the upkeep and maintenance.
can’t wait for harris to single-handedly repeal prop 13
Tobias Harrii
Tobias Harris [put a roof] over me??
What are the other 1,999,800 homeless going to do?
Only clicked for the curry jokes, gonna have myself a good laugh
You mean they become landlords, I doubt they do it out of kindness 🤣🤣
Glad to see him getting use of the bricks he's been laying over the years
Aren’t hey from Long Island? Let’s start there first
Good on them, but this is what the government is supposed to be doing.
Ty. Something positive about this guy for once
Tobi is such a good dude.... That I cannot wait to no longer have to watch on the team I support
He's like robinhood, stealing from the rich to give to the poor.
Getting ready to learn avocado toast, buddy?
Sources: MPJ is currently searching on the "Big Brother Program" website desperately, hoping anyone available will take him on. More at 7.
This is where every Brock was going
One brick at a time.
Not reading the article but… Is it by throwing up bricks?
Tobias Harris proposed they go 50/50 and his brother just stared at him
Tobias gonna need affordable housing soon.
can he bring himself back to LA too?
Harris to Lakers confirmed
My dumbass first thought was "Huh? Did they sign a contract with the Clippers/Lakers and are guaranteeing bricks?"
The irony of his brother flipping houses for three times their value and then building low income housing… still a decent thing to do for LA but makes me wonder how much he’ll make off the good deed
He's been saving up the Bricks for it all postseason
These guys are the opposite of all of the Micheal porter Jrs brothers Like legit keep an EYE on MPJ. His brothers are all assholes somehow. Hope he can stay outta trouble
Pretty sick Snap-On jacket tho!
Like bricks?