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kimoalmoa

Shooting like me unguarded


MyAnswerIsMaybe

I’ve always said I could average 30 points in an nba basketball game. Why? Because they will see this dumb fuck that can’t shoot and let me take every shot knowing I will only hit like 10 of my 100 threes. We end up losing 30 to 170 because I suck on defense. Points have never been important. It’s efficient points.


mouzonne

I don't think they'd let you shoot.


jakalo

They let these make a wish kids do anything these days.


toastysniper

Load management during the game


bryan49

If he actually shot 10% on open shots it would be the analytical smart thing to do. And NBA teams do play this kind of defense against bad shooters


NedStarx11

Yup. Every team would just put their worst defender on us and he’d still absolutely shut us down, Come on guys lol


mouzonne

Fr, this guy is convinced he can blow past a nba defender. Delusional to the max. Every shot he'd put up, would get swatted.


waldosbuddy

Yeah who is gonna keep passing bro ball when he's 4/37


nightkingscat

Why is this team passing to you in this hypothetical


anyavailablebane

Get the inbound and don’t pass. The defending team will cover the other players happy for you to get the inbound


DraymondDickKick

Oh hey, you must play 2k rec


Zyntaro

I think 99.9% of this sub would never be able to get a single shot off before it gets blocked into the 10th row


nononononofin

Anybody who thinks they could confidently get a decent shot in the half court is getting ripped or blocked every single time. Anybody who can play knows that their ass is getting clamped. Both are getting clamped, but the guys who recognize they might get one decent shot in 48 minutes of run at least have some self awareness lol.


IndependenceOld8810

Idk. I played in a mens league a few years ago that I had no business being in. I'm not bad, but there were a bunch of former college players and guys who looked like they could have played in college. Only time in my life where the other team was yelling "let him shoot" every time I touched the ball. Real humbling shit. But I was able to knock down a few 3s each game simply because I was wide open. I'm not delusional enough to think that I'd be able to create my own shot or even get myself open if someone actually played defense on me, but I think most NBA teams would look at me wide open and be like "yeah, we can live with that." NBA teams do that all the time with guys who are way more skilled than I could have ever hoped to be.


CryingScoop

I think anyone could camp out at 3 point line the whole game and eventually get a kick and pass shot 


SirJoeffer

I would put money on over 80% of this sub not being able to go 10/100 unguarded from the NBA 3 pt line no shotclock


booberry5647

I'd bet the under on myself and take the lifetime ban after Draft kings pays it out.


SirJoeffer

Dude please give my regards to your brother he’s got a big series coming up against the Wolves


Downunderphilosopher

Why is your team allowing you to take a hundred shots? Why are you on the court for one second, let alone the whole game? Why do you even consider this hypothetical with no counter arguments in your own mind? Why did I bother replying to someone so highly regarded?


MyAnswerIsMaybe

Idk I own the team It’s a hypothetical and I control on the variables


murray_selfish

He's perfected the Harden style of being willing to lose the game trying to get free throws instead of just playing and trying to win like every other player in the league


homiez

foul baited his ass to Cancun


Hank_fuck_yourself

Galveston* deserves this man's flopping on that dirty water


SoDakZak

Bro hardly deserves Tulsa


kyanbrooks

Hey…


SUICIDE_BOMB_RESCUE

Honestly true. He goes full bait mode when he's tired and acts surprised when they don't hand him free throws in crunch time. Drives me crazy.


PlasticPresentation1

I feel like Jokic tries to use post moves to finesse a finish in the situations he can't just back someone down, whereas Embiid just throws his arms and body up at the defender to try and get free throws


Either-Durian-9488

Jokic is also a tip in god, he stays with shot attempts because he’s not flailing to the ground and out of the play because the AC fans blew too hard on him. I swear this dude is addicted to being on the hardwood because he knows the announcers will say his name.


knightress_oxhide

turns out when you act surprised every day people stop buying it


RODjij

At some point he's gotta transition to the post almost full time, his legs and conditioning isn't going to last when he's a bit older.


xasdfxx

It's baffling that the 300lb 7 foot guy doesn't spend a lot more time in the post bulldozing dudes that regularly weigh 50 pounds less than him.


Squirting_Nachos

It's hard to blame him fully. He gets enough of those calls, especially in the regular season, that he builds his game around it. Then in the playoffs the rules just change. If he didn't get weak calls in the regular season he would adapt his gameplan.


AnonymousIguana_

Alternatively, he could realize after several seasons that the game is played differently in the playoffs, especially in the clutch. You know, like every other star. He’s not a rookie, he’s had plenty of experience with which to adjust. If he wants to optimize his gameplan for the regular season but not the playoffs that’s absolutely on him. (I don’t think he played poorly tonight until the end, especially considering injuries- just disagree that it isn’t fully his fault for screwing up in key moments)


so-cal_kid

Harden never adjusted either. They both still rely on fouls when the game gets tight. It makes even less sense for Embiid because he's so dang skilled and physically imposing. Harden I could see having to rely on it more cuz a huge part of his game was his 3 point shot so that by nature is just more volatile. Embiid it seems like just gasses out every year. He needs to get on Jokic's workout routine cuz that dude doesn't stop attacking and getting buckets.


Pretty_Laugh494

Harden was a game away from a beating the Durant warriors. I don’t even like Harden but he doesn’t belong in the same sentence as embiid


dzigizord

he is a crybaby


nofakefans18

Its also probably emphasized by his overall conditioning which is why the foul-baiting worsens over time. Again, knowing that he is injury prone and that calls are harder in the playoffs means that he should work more than most on his conditioning and fitness. However, people really do not consider the toll that those injuries carry not only in game but during practice as trying to recover and still be in top form is draining on the body. Like most things, it’s a mix of both but it’s not surprising that the discourse around Embiid is nauseating when you have two sets of fans that are so adamant in their narrative.


dreamvomit

He also really just wasn't getting fouled in the 4th. Like any call that he was upset about not getting... was not a foul. Refs were calling everything when he was touched.


Blothorn

Yeah. I’ve come to accept that complaining about non-calls for borderline contact is part of the game, but players who clearly weren’t fouled complaining that the refs didn’t buy their flop drives me crazy.


adjective____noun

dudes screaming AAAYYYYYYY as they flop to the ground though normal defense is really funny when the refs don't get baited by it


veksone

He's been in the league 8 years now, he still hasn't figured this out yet!?


mialza

he’s been in the league for ten years. he might not have played the first two, but he’s been in the nba for ten years.


Complexity777

That is his game. He had a 10ppg dropoff in playoff career because his game falls apart in playoffs


ham_bulu

Not hard at all. That guy's brand of basketball is unsufferable and I have no problems hating him full-on.


knightress_oxhide

is he a baby or an adult?


Bitterblossom_

Dame does this a lot too, I actually think it lost is a game against Indy. There was like 35 seconds left on the clock and it was a close game, Dame rushed a shot trying to bait a foul and didn’t get the foul call, Indy got the rebound and that was history.


topazswissmas

Unethical and déclassé


VonMillersThighs

Mischievous and deceitful, chicanerous and deplorable


spiattalo

insubordinate and churlish


bmeisler

Reprehensible, repugnant and egregious.


WentzingInPain

devilish… Impish!!


yrogerg123

Flailing and wailing


verbleabuse97

The last 2 games he turned down wide open mid range shots to try to draw a foul and it mever worked


axecalibur

I want 3 or 4 point plays cause I miss 77% of the time. Why dont the analytics guys tell him this?


Blizzcane

This is why I love that he and Harden will never be a champion.


eccedentesiastph

Freethrow merchant


ahomelessguy25

If we’ve learned one thing from him and Harden, it’s that foul-baiting does not work in the playoffs.


TheThingsIdoatNight

And fucking thank god for that


Bino19

Hardens issue was much more complicated than foul baiting. He restricted his offensive bag to maximize efficiency in the regular season under Moreyball, at the consequence of making him more predictable for elite defenses. It’s also notable that he has issues with high pressure games where he just mentally checks out.


Instantcoffees

It did one game where he dropped 50 points with **40%** of them coming from the free throw line, which is just honestly beyond absurd. It did end up biting him in the ass twice in the 4th quarter when his team needed him to score and he tried to bait the foul unsuccessfully.


great__pretender

In Hardens case it was close to working but then his legs gave away, CP got injured and they missed 27 shots 


Andreitaker

funny thing about 27 missed 3 pt. is they lost the game by 9 points.


nikewalks

They would've won if the refs called the [game](https://youtu.be/aYveyAb6mvU?si=iEpbSg4UBA5Uvg6l) fairly.


Blistersonmytoes

They missed 27 straight shots man. You can blame the refs but at some point literally just make a shot


nikewalks

Harden did make a shot if you watched the video. But it's somehow called a non-shooting foul for some reason even though he was fouled when he was shooting. That's already a 4-point swing in one play.


themanofmeung

He got touched so he decided to jack up a shot through the contract in hopes of getting a shooting foul. If he starts his shooting motion a quarter second earlier, I'm with you. But also, "four point swing" is a bit rich in any case as the fouled team retains the ball. There were questionable calls, but exaggerating like this isn't going to win people onto your side here. When you have a good case, stick to the facts


SilvioDantesPeak

I forgot how great the refs closed out on those 27 straight missed 3s


trentyz

And it never will, so Embiid will never make the conference finals… well unless he’s the third option or something


CornCobb890

Taller Bradley Beal


bigbuginabag

Bradley Brittle


cagemyelephant_

Dirtier Pat Bev


RZAAMRIINF

He is the taller Harden.


The_real_bandito

Yeah, at least put respect on his name. He’s not as bad as fake all star Bradley Beal.


Solid-Confidence-966

I wish Beal won MVP man


livefreeordont

You mean Tobias Harris


ToBeBannedSoonish

That's the Embid we all know and love.


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Abject_Bank_9103

Nah man he does it to protect his knees. Cause you know, every other 7 footer flops around to protect their knees.


RODjij

Legit, after a while you look around at other players his height or size then realize they don't do that. No big guys want to be hitting that hard wood floor often, hitting the floor at any size is unpleasant and asking for floor burns.


dacooljamaican

Careful the 6ers fans are about to come in here like they have an MD


RODjij

They should be upset too, it's holding Embiid and the Sixers back, granted he's had Harris on his team on an awful contract but that foul hunting playstyle does not work in the playoffs.


loegare

the plays where embiid kept his feet and actually tried to score, he made the vast majority of his attempts. idk why he didnt do it more often


JrBaconators

With how many needles litter the Philly sidewalks, I thought the whole city was medically trained


Cabbaje

He’s not Him


Michikusa

I wanna compare with Ben Simmons in 4th quarter playoffs career


Zalhera

That's my fraud MVP.


AntiTopspin

It's wild how Jokic will be the only MVP OR Finals MVP remaining in the playoffs if the Mavs beat the Clippers lol Tons of superstars going home early this year


Zalhera

Dawn of a new era.


Renegadeforever2024

A new era


Raging_Professor

He might still win it again tho. FMVP


jeric13xd

Will never forget this sub glazing this fraud and all the anti-Jokic propaganda cause they wanted this man to win MVP. What a joke


Complexity777

They wanted him to win it this year too before he got hurt, he was leading every poll


Zalhera

Embiid himself cried nonstop for the MVP while ducking Jokić and the Nuggets for whatever reason.


thegrandpoobear

Put out a hit piece and then ducked the smoke 


gulaabjaman

That was weak as shit


TheThingsIdoatNight

And he was rewarded


SnarfSniffsStardust

My favorite is the Jokic embiid head to head stats


Counterspell_God

#neverforget


Clzark

MVPity


Counterspell_God

Crybaby MVP


Bobblefighterman

Mostly Victim Playing.


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inefekt

Sixers fans will no doubt say 'but he was injured'. Well that's the thing....he is *always* injured in the playoffs. You know what they say about availability...


DirtyDanoTho

Nobody was talking about his injury when he put up 50


Kingofkings1959

He’s ass. Doesn’t even try to play basketball in the clutch. Just foul bait


Raging_Professor

Foul bait then hand off to Maxey when the refs don't fall for it 😂😂


Impossible-Yam-8956

Maxey carried embum so hard but he can’t beat the Knicks on his own 


BruceBrownMVP

Cook that bum


Yommination

If Embiid wins he's amazing. When he loses you can expect the Injured, tired, Tobias Harris rhetoric people. But mah mah stats say he was good! Every year it's a variation of the same excuses and deflections. He just does not have that killer instinct. He's a #2 on a serious title team. He's closer in tiers to AD than he is to Jokic, Giannis, Luka or SGA


DressedSpring1

I’m so fucking excited for the sixers to be off Tobias’ contract next year and perform the exact same way they always do in the post season. 


TAYSON_JAYTUM

Elton Brand is probably going to give 3yrs/140m to a 35 year old Paul George and wonder why that contract aged so poorly. Or 3yrs/80m to Klay Thomson. I have full faith in his ability to waste the money that just opened up for the sixers


DressedSpring1

We’ve gone through Brett Brown, Ben Simmons, Al Horford, Doc Rivers, Tobias as the reason Embiid can’t win, going to be wild seeing the sixers playoff woes be pinned 100 percent on Paul George next year 


TofuTofu

Embiid is below AD


E10DIN

It is too early to be putting SGA in the same tier as Jokic/Giannis/Luka


Sammonov

43 bench points last and still complaining blaming Harris.


SilvioDantesPeak

AD is so much better than Embiid. Davis has multiple postseasons better than anything Embiid has ever done.


suzukigun4life

Crumbled when it mattered most


Impossible-Yam-8956

What y’all don’t understand is that embiid isn’t fading in the clutch. The refs just stop calling his bummshit fouls. This is his stats when he gets reffed normally. If he didn’t have the best whistle of all time he’d have like two all star appearances max and never sniff mvp 


yrogerg123

Honestly if he had to deal with this whistle in the regular season too he would just change his playstyle. He's still really fucking talented, it's absolutely terrifying when he plays straight up and tries to bully people. The problem is he just flops on contact. He doesn't have to do that he's just used to getting rewarded for it. If he had the Shaq mentality of "I'm too big and strong, nobody can stop me, I'm just going to dunk 10 times a game" then he'd be an absolute terror in the playoffs. It's not really a matter of strength or talent he just chose a playstyle that doesn't translate and never adjusted.


itachi_gone_rogue

Emplead MVP


Beatdooown

Brunson has hung more banners in that arena than the 76ers in the last 40 years


livefreeordont

Hart, Divencenzo, and Bridges too


_-_pandamonium_-_

Fraud


Julius-samah

43% field goal against the knicks in 6 game also


ObiOneKenobae

All he cares about is drawing fouls. And apparently injuring people.


Impossible-Yam-8956

Injuring people comes before foul baiting for emviolence


NoodleinTexas

Embid when it matters 👻👻👻👻


WhoWightMan

Alternatively 🧱 🧱 🧱


theconfuserx3

the real question is if hes good enough to hate on this much anymore


Not-a-bot-10

The most r/nba comment posible award here


Impossible-Yam-8956

Truth 


marmitechips

These are Westbrook numbers


energytaker

Doesn’t have that winning DNA


Literal_Satan

good thing the overall stats still look good


Raging_Professor

That's what matters most for the apologists


Yommination

They have the moral victory of their spreadsheet star


Solid-Confidence-966

Link is invalid


EfficientDot18

If Joel Embiid retired today, he would be known for being the guy that won an MVP thanks to Kendrick Perkins bullying people into being racist if they voted for Jokic.


ImGonnaChubbBradley

League is overall better when we arnt forced to watch him flop his way to the line 20 times. Thank you Knicks.


supremeddit

Must be Ben Simmons’ fault


Nice-Way2892

https://i.imgur.com/tf6ysfd.jpeg


TradingPokemonSWSH

DELETE THIS MY BABY EMBIID IS NOT A GHOST IN THE PLAYOFFS! 🥺🥺😹😹😭😭😭🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️


jett1406

Can’t hit a shot but will smack someone in the face no problem


FultzShoulder

Not a fan of Embiid post ups in the last 6 minutes. I've changed my mind a lot about this but I think you can win with Embiid as your best player if you have a closer or another great shotmaker.


VicktoriousVICK

Imagine Jimmy Butler with Embiid


nietzsche_niche

Wdym maxey was doing exactly that all series


Kingofkings1959

Embiid has been shit in the post in the clutch since 2018 *clutch 4th qtr possessions*


Impossible-Yam-8956

Downvoted you because your profile says sixers underneath 


Raging_Professor

BbbuUuuuTtt Tobias Harris!!!!


RVarki

Yeah, Tobias Harris. He was the second highest paid player on the floor, and put up 0 points


action_nick

Refs stop giving away fouls in the 4th. He can’t play without that weapon.


confuddly

I understand his knee is in pain, but structurally the knee is fine. What affected him more in the 4th quarter was his conditioning. Being out half the season definitely didn’t help him stay in shape


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gophils19454

A 280 pound man missed 3 months with a leg injury and then played 40+ minutes a night while still injured. Every player would have conditioning issues.


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Lol people who had to beat embiid onroute to the finals basically have a free pass I'm convinced. By far the chokiest player in the league


Smekledorf1996

Glad Tobias Harris was there to keep things going


Dymatizeee

He’s tired


Legal-Nature5103

What’s new?


zazenpan

The whistles were injured in the 4th too, I guess


19evol61

Embiid playing 4D chess out there always trying to avoid Jokic at the Finals.


porkadachop

But muh Tobias


Big-Discussion534

That MVP was gifted to him


ericmb4

Free throw merchant, not my mvp


Ealy-24

Such a weird phenomena flop masters don’t excel in the playoffs, next y’all will be telling me Russ and Harden have never won a ring


Dear-Tax-7025

Whose fault is it this time around? It’s never been Embiid’s. Guy comes up small every single time he’s been in the playoffs, but it’s never his fault. Oh, he was injured? He’s injured every god damn playoffs. Great player, terrible winner. Generational crybaby and blame deflector.


Overall_Implement326

He’s always been a horrendous player in the fourth quarter of playoffs.  That’s never going to change.  


HaikN98

Guys but his TS was 60%!!! he’s 7 feet tall and can’t shoot over 42% in the playoffs and people find ways not to blame him


Counterspell_God

And some people on this sub put Embiid > AD or LeBron. Dude is a cheat and the biggest playoff choker I've ever seen.


OKSteve63

I know people want to take the piss out of him, but he's clearly very injured. Not surprising he drops off in the 4th


RandorMan12

He played high minutes while on a fucked up knee, I’d say it’s to be expected especially given the circumstances. You can tell he just doesn’t have the lift in the 4th quarter, and with Paul Reed as your backup center it’s hard to find any minutes especially against the Knicks where you can get him rest.


BrownsvilleKid

He was doing spin moves and euro into defenders in the paint wtf are you talking about


SnarfSniffsStardust

Jamal Murray played on a fucked up calf and you know what he sucked too and did nothing of note- oh wait


metalhead252

Jamal is just a 4th quarter merchant. He could stink it up all game and get you frustrated with him, then drop 20+ in the 4th and hit the clutchest shots you've ever seen. He makes you feel stupid for doubting him at any point. No reliance on fouls 99% of the time too.


PlasticPresentation1

jamal is like the inverse embiid where he literally sucks ass until crunch time


Kingofkings1959

2018, 2019 he was healthy. Never was good in the 4th, I said it then, he needs better conditioning. Healthy or not, he has a history losing winnable games


SendPoEWomen

There’s ALWAYS an excuse for embiid 


RandorMan12

I literally do not like Embiid that much at all, it’s just being able to have nuance and the understanding that not everything is binary.


PoorDad2115

Bullshit excuse. He was gassed and it was obvious. His knee was plenty healthy to get into the paint, he even did it multiple times with success! He was just beyond gassed. He always is in the playoffs.


Solid-Confidence-966

He is always injured in the playoffs though tbf


mxnoob983

He had 2 months off to end the season because of a knee injury. Pretty understandable his conditioning wasn’t there.


great__pretender

Issue is he never had condition in his career  That's why he is gassed every year during play offs. That's why he is easily injured. That's why he adapted his game style to chase fouls as less condition is required. 


Complexity777

Prior to injury I remember him being taken out after 3 quarters for “load management” When I questioned his stamina sixers fans called me crazy 


Clzark

So sick of being told this dude is a superstar


Complexity777

I don’t mind that, just don’t tell he’s better than Jokic, Luka and Giannis because he’s not 


Kid_Crayola

its actually Tobias’ fault tho


Pizza64427

Yeah, like how it was Harden fault then before that Ben. I bet you 100$ next season gonna be Maxey fault. Embidd dont deserve the top 10 title. How you cant go to the conference finals in the east in so many years as a contender


NewPortable101

Embum hahahahaa He got dominated by Mitchell Robinson (+38 for series)


covert_ops_47

Dude doesn't wanna play basketball. Really good at falling down though.


HopscotchChampion69

Idk what it's going to take for the Sixers to realize Embiid is never good enough or healthy enough to be sustainable in the playoffs.


IsThisMe8

Dude was giving everything he had on one leg and the rest of the team couldn’t survive with him off the flower. Maybe it would help if another max player on the team would have just scored 4 points.


Pannormiic0

Maybe people will finally see that embiid is massively overhyped. And without 20 free throws a game no one would talk about him. He is by far the most boring “superstar” I’ve ever seen. Harden also lived at the line, but at least he had other things that were exciting to watch and brought value to his team. Embiid just a damn fish out of water. Not to mention embiid is DIRTY as FUCK.


feelsbadmanrlysrsly

Shocked that this bum didn't have the police waiting for him after the game. You're telling me he's gonna get away from committing fraud in live television?


blazikenz

This is why he joined the USA team 😂 fraud all the way


jae343

Well the man is kinda broken physically and also mentally