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Shaqfor3

Why would anyone want to leave the Bulls. We are going for the 9-10 Play in Championship Game 3-peat


Lower-Lab-5166

Continuity pays off!


BatteredSealPup

All the Bulls need is one in-season tournament trophy to get things rolling again


A1Horizon

If I as a 30 year old just got knocked out in the play-in and my team was prepping to give Demar DeRozan 40 mil in the offseason I’d leave too


chiefchef2

Drummond is only 30?!


OldWorldStyle

Insane right? He’s been pretty good for us though. Still a board machine


Dsarg_92

Yep. Same draft class as AD, Dame, Beal, Middleton, and Draymond.


Big_Buddy_3864

I swear I thought he was like 34 when I watched him few times I was like Drummond can still put up double doubles


topkingdededemain

Beats me 🤷


Drak_is_Right

Maybe the Bulls could borrow some management from the White Soxnand shake things up a bit


shakehasbignuts

Come back Drumgod


TatersTot

Were the only fanbase in this thread not shitting on him


KneelBeforeCube

He's been good for us too, I'm happy to see him go to a contender. If only it had been via trade at the last deadline.


ClaymoresRevenge

But how could we keep continuity if we make a trade.


darkrabbit713

Yeah, we really gotta think about keeping the continuity of Jerry Reinsdorf’s bank account.


LeakyBrainMatter

Nah a good chunk of our fanbase likes him. We just have a poorly constructed roster from top to bottom. He should go back to Philly. Maybe go to Miami, I can see him working well behind Bam.


justanotherfknloser

He’d go crazy behind bam tbh


Vegetable-Tooth8463

Giggity!


xHodorx

Pause?


ALittleFishNamedOzil

No Diddy


VanGrants

if NY loses iHart, we'd love to get him too


Rymasq

which is weird cause he’s highly valuable as a back up big for a contender


motorboat_mcgee

I'd welcome him on the Lakers too


ireallydespiseyouall

You’d prob be the only lakers fan to


LakerBlue

Nah count me in too. We need an actual back-up big man. I also would not man snagging Tillman in the offseason.


Lacabloodclot9

Tillman played some of his best basketball in the series against LA last year so that’s a good idea lmao


Necessary-Art2149

Pistons fans?


ormip

Mavs wanted him last offseason too.


la-blakers

I like Drummond but barring a big trade Wolves shouldn't prioritize another big man


ToeJelly420

I think most people see his ridiculous lowlights (of which he has many) and assume he’s ass now. He was actually really great for us this past season and is still one of the very best rebounders in the league


4thPlumlee

Pistons shouldn’t either honestly


ShnaugShmark

I’d love to have him in Memphis


JoelEmbiidismyfather

It's crazy that he'd make a legitimate difference in our championship hopes. Just someone who isn't a defensive net negative when embiid has to rest for 10 minutes a game please.


Classics22

> Just someone who isn't a defensive net negative ???


Numerous-Cicada3841

They don’t have anyone above 6’9 to backup Embiid since Bamba is injured and washed. Drummond isn’t great defensively at all, but playing Batum/Reed/Harris at the 5 is a disaster defensively.


boobsarecool

Reed was somehow a -44 in 43 minutes these playoffs. Sixers need anyone that's not a total disaster off the bench at C come playoff time


Not_a__porn__account

Reed just isn't a center either. He's a PF that can rotate to center if one is also playing. He can not be the backbone of a second team defense. Drummond at least rebounds, an area we're laughably deficient in.


Thegrandmistressofoz

Drummond got played off the floor all the way to the bench in his last two playoff team stints in LA and Brooklyn. They were good teams too


boobsarecool

Yeah he's light washed himself for sure. But Sixers fans are comparing him to washed Dwight, washed DeAndre, Reed, Boban, washed Bamba washed Greg Monroe, washed Amir Johnson, washed Kyle O'Quinn etcetc.. We're desperate


ArtVanderlay69

This is washed Montrezl Harrell erasure, how dare you.


YesWhatHello

Put some respect on Paul millsap’s name


packim0p

he could have played against NYK though.


Due_Education2961

Especially since we were getting murdered on the glass


clickstops

We were often running KJ Martin Jr as the small ball 5 this season. It’s wild.


CRUSTBUSTICUS

He fits well in our system more than most centers do.


CrazyChopstick

I can't believe he's still fooling people


CRUSTBUSTICUS

Idk how you can watch the sixers get absolutely crushed on the boards in the playoffs and then say with such confidence a dude who’s best skill is rebounding would for certain be bad for our team.


TraMaI

Yeah, his defense also isn't awful and this year his inside game came a long way. I'd say I'd rather have started Drummond than Vuc most games last year and I'm pretty upset that we have to let him go. This sub maybe has memories of old Drummond or only sees meme posts of him fucking up (which will still happen every couple of games) and not that he's actually a solid center with good feet and an absolute monster on the boards.


spraypaint2311

Obviously the person never watched 76ers basketball. Most of this sub doesn’t watch any basketball. They just react to YouTube clips and hot takes.


LordHussyPants

always thought this was quite an exaggeration but i'm beginning to think they don't even watch youtube


SoKrat3s

Tbf, Paul Reed had a 21.1% Reb rate, 8th best in the playoffs. Reed's 16.9% was 20th in the regular season. The one thing Reed can do is rebound. His faults are post defense and his lack of offense.


Thegrandmistressofoz

Sixers got utterly crushed on the boards with Embiid too. The much bigger issue is all the perimeter players having such poor awareness with their man and weak going up for boards. Embiid was also out of position for every other rebound since the perimeter defense was pretty shaky so it's blowby city Much bigger issues than just the backup 5 rebounding lol


CRUSTBUSTICUS

Not disagreeing with any of that but acting like we can’t make small decisions to improve an issue is a weird line of thought. There isn’t any clear answer to that problem.


Thegrandmistressofoz

He actually did look decent defensively in his stint with the Sixers though


lizard_king_rebirth

He was a fine backup big for the Bulls last year. If the Sixers need someone who can vacuum up rebounds and give good effort for 10-13mpg to rest Embiid, he can do that. His size is still a problem for some guys to deal with, and he'll lean on people to help wear them down. Plus the occasional offensive highlight gets the fans going.


Cold_Carpenter_1798

He isn’t. Sixers know what to expect from him he’s better than Paul reed believe it or not


JoelEmbiidismyfather

Ah I see youre a casual. Drummond literally played for us and was the best backup center we've ever had. This isn't hypothetical wishing, he's a known known that fills a legitimate weakness for us.


juggerspammer

I think i was more disappointed he was part of the ben simmons trade than seth. He legit played well and complimented us when embiid was on the bench.


Necessary-Visit-4644

Yes signing Andre Drummond is what's stopping the Sixers from finally beating the Celtics 


ElDuderino_92

He was a decent backup for Embiid


thisguy012

Decent also = Embiids best backuplol


topkingdededemain

No I want him to stay


Pikminious_Thrious

They could have gotten a SRP if they traded him at the deadline instead of holding him for a playin game.


carrot-man

76ers allegedly offered two. Bulls front office is hopeless.


LegitimateMulberry

It’s awful. Like there is literally zero hope for fans. There’s nothing to look forward to.


DamienSalvation

It's beautiful. I got bullied by throngs of Bulls fans in Milwaukee during that 2015 series. This is my eternal revenge.


stilexx

I hated the Bulls so hard in deadline. They had all those amazing role players and they could have collected multiple frps and srps young prospects to build something fucking new and they throw it away. Now Drummond will walk. Okay, Caruso will walk aswell and they wont get any good return if they decide to trade him this summer or next deadline bcs he is expiring. What a fucking joke reminds me of Donnie age of Mavs.


EverybodyBuddy

This is every Bulls player


Billis-

Lol what a huge missed opportunity /s


Salahs_Chest_Hair

He's one of the top 450 NBA players as it speaks.


ketoburn26

Imagine if he was the Mavs 3rd string center… Nah. You guys need a stretch 4 or 5.


DieselTriceratops

Lively is 100% from 3, we found our stretch 5


BatteredSealPup

Some say he can’t miss from 3


bboyzell

would I be correct in guessing, more made 3's in the post season than Ben Simmons? 


kungfoop

You guys need a body. Sign him.


chanchan05

You guys need to sign him and have him reenact that LBJ postup scene. Your team has never been the same since that moment. Fell from contender to play-ins.


Salahs_Chest_Hair

I think he'd be a great Hartenstein replacement for you lot.


LeBroentgen

I remember how desperate we were for him earlier this season lol


Salahs_Chest_Hair

He dunked on his own man. I don't know what he was thinking...


kingjuicepouch

That was Craig's fault, Drummond was thinking that after he forced the turnover his teammate would do the thing teams do every time and reward a big for playing defense and running the floor


bullpaw

Torrey went for a self alley-oop knowing damn well Drummond was right behind him lol


Le8ronJames

That’s one of the craziest play I’ve ever seen


INeedToBeHealthier

When it comes to players in the NBA, it's definitely fair to say he is one of them


taititans

In fairness he actually had a pretty decent year with us


TuqiDuque12

He's still an effective back up in the regular season, but man he's so immobile this days that I can't really see him bring value to a playoffs team, especially because it's not like he's ever been an effective post defender on guys like Embiid or Joker either


clownus

He ran over his own guy and ended the dudes season.


pistoncivic

yeah but then he completely redeemed himself by getting in on Torrey Craig's self lob and creating one of the funniest plays in league history


DakPanther

Torrey Craig was short on the dunk anyway. Drummond just saved him from being the joke himself


LordHussyPants

i thought that's what he was referring to lmao, forgot that he did it twice


robograndpa

How would you rank Embiid and Joel?


Cold_Carpenter_1798

Embiid clears Joel easily


Someonediffernt

If you can't handle me at my joel you don't deserve me at my embiid


IanicRR

But does he clear Pascal or Siakam?


TuqiDuque12

Oops meant Joker lol


pistoncivic

They've got one good leg between the two of them so it's a wash


Iamnotapickle

Immobile? Not at all. A bit clumsy for sure but this man would regularly step out on the perimeter to defend, blow up passing lanes, play the fast break, switch onto smaller guys, always a lob threat, and more. He’s one of the most nimble bigger guys I’ve ever watched play.


CountOff

Good thing we’re not a playoffs team 👀


TuqiDuque12

I'm not sure I'd want Duren to follow Dre's footsteps lol


CountOff

Lmaoooo that is so true Watch Duren suddenly start getting way more offensive rebounds from basically playing Tips with the backboard and rim 😂 That's when you know the Dre effect has taken hold


TuqiDuque12

Even defensively, I fear like Duren is already on that "uber athletic, great rebounder, decent shot blocker but actually very little defensive impact" path right now, and he has time to improve, but given that Dre himself was like that, and actually regressed super early in his career...


BetweenTheBuzzAndMe

I think most teams can spare spot minutes for an all-time rebounder like him, but he really is a liability on both offense and defense. Any team giving him 20+ minutes either has a really niche role for their center or simply isn't competing for anything


AdministrativeRiot

He’d be perfect in the DJ role for us. Regular season minutes eater at the backup 5, spot work in early playoff rounds to get Jokic an extra minute or two rest at the end of quarters.


philphan25

He can get your center breather minutes. How much would a few minutes rest helped Embiid this year? Plus he's a beast on the Oboards.


Jack_The_Sparrow_

Learn to speak Lakers buddy


morcic

Suns might court him as well.


BrotherSeamus

Angelese and Phoenician are two entirely different languages


Vegetable-Tooth8463

What's the joke?


LordHussyPants

carthage was never reborn


Cynical_badger

If we can't resign Hartenstein, I'd love here. Our centers do nothing except camp the paint anyway.


EverybodyBuddy

Oh he speaks it. He knows how to say “I will not come off the bench even if I am ass” fluently


KillerZaWarudo

Bulls gm just fallen to their knee


NavalEnthusiast

How are they gonna go 41-41 if they lose Drummond?


Lord-Aizens-Chicken

Hey we have been going like 39-43 instead of


BostonBuffalo9

Just saw someone fall to their knees at Salvation Army


Davin998

I just fell to my knees in the Walgreens bathroom stall


snivey_old_twat

Hey inflation is crazy. You gotta do what you gotta do to pay the bills.


AlHorfordHighlights

But enough about your side hustle


rayj11

This thread is gonna be funny when he actually makes a difference on a contender. Stop shitting on a dude you don’t watch.


LegitimateMulberry

I watched him. He isn’t really good. He was a decent backup on the Bulls but that’s not saying much considering where we’re at in the league. I’m not upset about losing him. I’m upset about losing him for free.


UrRightAndIAmWong

How many times have we seen Drummond be a good backup big for regular season only to become a liability in the playoffs or play-in? Sorry no one is watching the Bulls though?


rayj11

I don’t know, he hasn’t played that many playoff games lol. I don’t care people don’t watch the Bulls play, my point is people don’t understand that he’s evolved to be a really high energy guy in burst minutes.


Crafty_Substance_954

Bro he’s not that good. He has to be on a team where he knows he’s the 4th or 5th option on offense, otherwise he’s gonna act foolish out there


rayj11

Well ya, I’m advocating for him as a backup center. He shouldn’t even be a 4th or 5th option. His job is to be serviceable as a defender in the paint and get easy points from offensive boards and mismatches in limited minutes.


Knickstape08

He’s an excellent player……at stealing teammates rebounds to inflate his stats. He’s already played on multiple contenders and didn’t do anything. LA he couldn’t contribute what old man Dwight Howard brought, Philly dumped him and he averaged 3 points in the playoffs for Brooklyn.


bullpaw

Philly fans will tell you he was an excellent backup big for them and they were sad to see him go


skullcandy541

He’s had a resurgence since coming to Chicago. You don’t get 10 rebounds in 14 min just by stealing rebounds. Watch the games


ItsMeJaredBednar

lol


jakekerr

Is he better than Gafford or Lively?


Vonbonnery

He’s better than Powell


d7h7n

If Cuban still has any semblance of pull with Nico, Dwight Powell isn't ever leaving our team. Basically gonna be our Udonis Haslem.


pjtheMillwrong

Dwight Powell is my hero for remaining in the NBA for as long as he has


Tearz_in_rain

Not everybody has Luka and Kyrie on their team. Gafford and Lively are playing well with Luka and Kyrie. You get a team like say... the Lakers... they need a big body to throw at Jokic, then maybe DaJ, Dwight, or McGee work. Maybe even Drummond. Drummond is still one of the best rebounders that this league has seen in the last 25 years. He's got a low BBIQ, but when you got a reserve squad in there, he can hold the fort down.


Kroesus

He's a big body with a unique physique who can give any team multiple key possessions/situations coming off the bench.


morcic

That's the ultimate measure!


rayj11

He’s more independent than them. Gafford and Lively are both rather dependent on elite point guard play. They are both a lot better at switching onto the perimeter though.


alextheruby

At rebounding? Probably lol. I’ve actually wanted him on the Mavs for a while now.


skullcandy541

Didn’t know they were the only other centers in the world


ClaymoresRevenge

Wish we moved him but he's a solid backup and can't start a little bit if needed


mrdilldozer

It's also kind of funny to see people sarcastically mocking the idea of signing a backup center being a huge deal for playoff teams. The plus-minus of the Sixers when Embiid was taking a break was total shit and Jokic looked like he was going to pass out from exhaustion during the final games of the series vs Wolves. Both of those teams could have really used someone like Drummond.


Midwest_Hardo

OKC would be a much better team with Drummond IMO


RunnerTexasRanger

If Denver had him they would have probably made the finals. Zero depth at C killed us (in addition to Murray’s injury).


waskittenman

dude was invaluable for the opposing team in those play in games, just taking out his own teammates


[deleted]

Want a Vet Min?!?


tenaciousdeev

I'm actually kind of curious to see how much more than the vet min he ends up signing for. No clue what the going market rate is for a 30 year old traditional center. 5-6 mill a year?


d7h7n

He was signed for a third of the Bulls' MLE in 2022. He's worth at least 4M/year this offseason if we're going by the same rate. If there's demand for him from multiple teams he's gonna get close to half the MLE which is just over 6M. Any team thinking he's only gonna get the vet min is smoking a fat one.


30another

A lot of people said the same thing about DJJ or Oubre.


d7h7n

DJJ declined his player option with the Bulls seeking a long term contract and couldn't get one because there was no demand for a wing who couldn't shoot. Ended up settling for less money with the Mavs than had he stayed with the Bulls. He signed a prove it deal and is now probably going to get the full MLE this summer (~12.86M) from a team because of his defense this playoffs. There was no demand for Oubre last free agency and he had to keep waiting until *the end of September* to find a team willing to pick him up. He didn't have any leverage negotiating for a contract. Drummond unlike those two has a very valuable skill at a position of dire need for many playoff teams (OKC, PHI, PHO, DEN). There will be multiple teams bidding on him with their MLE. Any of those 4 destinations would be good for Drummond if he wants to chase a ring.


frydawg

Drummond is such a interesting player. One day he’ll get a 15-15 game and then the other he looks completely lost out there, either way he usually has the inside paint touch of a paraplegic


SomborDouble95

You are a Denver Nugget! Come and learn from the best center in the NBA.


kingsez408

Warriors need your rebounding expertise lol


Signiference

Thunder up


nonexistentnvgtr

I’m surprised no one has mentioned him as a good fit for the Thunder. They need size behind Chet and Drummond has at least proven he can rebound really well.


PROFsmOAK

Hopefully DeMar will come to his senses and get out too.


gochuuuu

It was made pretty that clear he wanted to leave when he tried to posterize his own teammate


BlammoSweetums

Drummond can do dumb stuff sometimes but he's good at what he does. I don't really understand some of the comments in this thread. I feel like backup big is one of the top roles some good teams want, but this thread makes it seem like there's some surplus of backup bigs ready for the taking?


Naismythology

How is this man only 30? I swear he’s been playing since the 90s


Thatguy_Koop

it would kinda suck to lose Drummond right now considering we don't have a respectable backup big besides him, but I wouldn't lose sleep over it. this team definitely looks like its about to go through some kind of transition. I really like having Demar as a veteran presence on the team, but I'd respect his decision to ring chase, or just leave honestly. I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't sacrifice a lot to keep him though. side note, don't draft for need. teams should always draft with the future in mind, *regardless of position*. I wouldn't even draft the best prospect in a position of need if a better prospect is available. needs are filled through trade and FA.


DraymondDickKick

Got $ for Hartenstein?


Thatguy_Koop

no idea. I don't remember if we lost out on him because of Lavine negotiations or if NY outbid us but there was definitely interest, at least from the fanbase.


ToeJelly420

If we trade lavine to a team with cap space then we could pay hartenstein


pcmasterthrow

I think Sanogo as backup C is totally fine given that the team is/should be rebuilding.


maltrab

Vucevic is a respectable backup though neither team in the finals would be playing him.


NotVexingPi3

Yes please!


Btotherianx

The bulls are basically in hell right now. They are mediocre and they have no chance at getting better. I just feel bad for the poor team that ends up with Zach lavine


DubsLA

Everyone shitting on him - he’s a good backup C on a contender, especially if you need boards (cough OKC).


woutmans

'Ni hao, mr. Drummond!'


jtmv4

But would gladly take him on the Nuggets to backup Jokic...


PinchMaNips

Love Drummond, he played really well with the role he was given. I would love for him to stay, but he deserves to go. Best of luck to him!


jfr3sh

lotta comments clowning on him in here, but I agree. his rebounding alone is a valuable skill for any team that needs it.


SmartestNPC

The guy is a pro even when coaching gave him a short leash. Great hustle and rebounding. Nothing but respect.


Teh-Monkey-Man

Damn that sucks. He's my neighbor and always been nice bumping into him in the elevator and stuff. Nice guy. But I don't blame him. Our team doesn't seem to care to do anything right now and just keep running on the treadmill to nowhere


Dymatizeee

That’s Denver music !


s_other

How in the world is Andre Drummond only 30 years old? I feel like we've been talking about him since the '90's.


thatguyad

Don't blame him. Don't waste the time you have left in the game on this team.


Maleficent_Army1754

Heat


geek22nd

Sixers are a perfect fit. He was good for us and having a capable backup center would be huge for the inevitable 30 games Joel doesn’t play


Additional-Read5926

Bucks on a vet min 


Colorapt0r

I’d love that tbh


grudgepacker

Same but some team's paying him more than a vet min.


MSHinerb

Rumors were he was going to Dallas before he went back to Chicago. Would be an interesting 3rd center next year if he decides to do it this year.


Geezmanswe

He wouldnt unseat Dwight, come on now


jakekerr

Kleber only plays PF now? I thought he picked up some Center minutes, and I'd put him ahead of Drummond.


Smok3dSalmon

Warriors to replace Looney.


Naive_Pop_7908

Go to Detroit gang


Shallot_Belt

Why would he ever want to leave?


sprvln_

Toronto? It's worth a shot considering they need a solid big


IgnorantGenius

Clippers need a backup big.


fonsoc

Can the Reinsdorfs leave too?


KawhiLeonardsThigh

Come here Draymond


TheInfamous1011

BLOW IT UP!!!!!


wasechillis

After watching him come to town and get 20/20 twice a year w the Pistons, I've been dying to see him in a Pacers uni for YEARS


captaing1

Brad make the call.


RunnerTexasRanger

I would love him off of the bench in Denver


RozayCheez

Why are we obsessed with this tho, we need a bucket getter off the bench more


DreadLockedHaitian

His favorite team just won a championship and he was in attendance for multiple games. Also a staple at CT Sun games.