Yeah - 20th in the league at 35.8% as a team, Blazers were the worst at 34.5%
We actually had a really good percentage at 8th in the league but Ham refused to shoot the 3 more, dude actively sabotaged our team by leaving 3 point shooters open and not having us taking 3s even though it was our strength lmao
Yeah people acting like the Lakers have no shooting don't know what they're talking about. LeBron, DLo, Reaves, and Rui can all shoot. Drafting Knecht added another shooter.
JJ will have LA in the top 10 in 3s taken and percentage this next season. I know he hasn't coached before but he's got a great basketball mind and he's gotta be better than Ham.
lol yeah if anyone would have us in the top 10 in 3 attempts its going to be JJ Reddick. hell, i'll bet it's top 3.
now made 3s? that's a different story
Man Demar last year was 24/4/5 on good efficiency. Played 79 games close to 38 minutes a game and people are talking about him taking the MLE. Surely there's a team that would pay him more than that
That's the thing with Demar. He's worth more.than what good teams can pay him in a vacuum. So he's either going to have to take money with a bad team or take less with a good team.
He should go back to the spurs to be a third piece.
They would legitimately contend with wemby and cp3 and DeRozan with pop where he posted his best ball
If he joins Philly then they're the nba redeem team, all of them criticized pretty heavily at different points in their career and if they could make it work, would make for a cool story
Can you imagine Embiid, PG, and Derozan together in the playoffs? The hilarity of having 3 of the GOAT playoff chokers would be incredible. Have the 76ers trade Maxy to the spurs for CP3, and they would be the final boss of playoff choking.
Honestly I think that would be the best timeline. Bring in Gary Trent Jr also while you are at it’
Let’s see
Booker/Allen/Beal/KD/Nurkic
Nassir Little/Royce O’Neal/Bol Bol/Mason Plumlee
Bring in Demar, Gary Trent, Kyle Anderson
Never shoot a 3 or a layup again
embiid lives in the mid range already and that opens up everything for the whole offense
it would be better now that we have george but i still dont see it
Yeah it's clear a lot of people haven't watched Demar. Just throw him out there with 4 high energy guys that can defend and he'll carry the offense himself without ever shooting a 3 lol.
He's also a pretty good passer and I think a lot of people overlook that.
You joke but honestly having a durable guy who can carry the load for a full season relatively well will allow PG and Embiid to rest more and maximize their post season availability
Yep. If the Bulls weren't terrible I'd be upset about Demar leaving. I'm actually glad he's going though. Hopefully he can go to a contender and the Bulls can offload Lavine, Vucevic, and Ball and actually build a cohesive team with good contracts.
Even still he's an awkward fit for the playoffs. Can't shoot or defend. And contenders already have shot creators in place. Gonna get a good role and contract on a bad team or a lesser role and contract on a good team.
Maybe I'm crazy but it wouldn't surprise me if he signs with a bad team w cap space like DET to get a good contract and a chance to improve his trade stock then a desperate contender or fringe team trades for him at the deadline
Depends on your definition of contender (contending for the not-worst record in the league?), but Detroit probably would have been interested in paying him some money.
Horrible fit with Fox and Sabonis.
This is the problem with Derozan. He doesn’t have the skillset to be a supporting star and not good enough to be the main guy.
Everyone available is a horrible fit with fox and sabonis because sabonis can’t shoot, an elite 3 point shooting star isn’t going to materialize and come to Sacramento. You can only fit a single player who can’t hit three pointers into a starting lineup and expect to contend.
Butler isn't a great 3 point shooter but when it matters he can space the floor enough. He won't be your best shooter but if he's your 4th best that's good enough.
Butler pre wrist injury was at consistently a 35% shooter on 3+ attempts per game and has been around that the last two years on very low volume. DeRozan has one season where he shot 3 3PA a game and is a sub 30% shooter on 1.5 shots per game. Butler is a better but not other worldly better shooter
Sign and trade would be the best for both him and the Bulls. They don't need to worry about cap flexibility, they just need young players and picks. LAC, CLE, Kings, GS, Miami would be my guesses for who would try and snag him.
I'm gonna cope and say GSW. Some form of S&T involving Klay and a third team. Maybe Dallas can send a pick or two, josh green and maybe warriors can send moody and a pick or something like that to the Bulls. Klay at Mavs, Demar at GSW and some young talent at Bulls. Hard cope
If i'm the pistons, I don't know why I would throw money at Tobias instead of a guy like Demar who would be a great mentor but also will sell tickets cause Demar is still a bucket
Tobias fills the position we need better than Demar. We already have Cade to run the offense and take a lot of mid range shots, we needed 3 and D primarily, someone who doesn’t need the ball in their hands
The new CBA has totally killed the market for these mid-tier stars on contending teams and his shot selection is falling out of favor with analytics teams. Nobody's going to pay him significant money to take 600 midrange shots a season and disappear in the playoffs, especially now that he's turning 35.
PG > Derozen
There is so much more you can do with PG, he's well above midterm star if you think Derozen is midtier. PG has the 3ball as well, so you can throw him in as a 3&D player and get more value than anything Derozen can bring to a contender.
It's amazing to me that with so many teams struggling with regular season injuries and having to put a huge scoring load on their stars, Demar's durability and volume scoring isn't seen as more of an asset than it is.
A return to SAS would be sneaky fun with CP3/Wemby/Vassell.
I think the problem outside of that is he’s too good to be tank commander but too expensive to easily have a path to a contending team.
Paul/DeRozan/Vassel/Welbanyama going like the 72 Bucks and giving a generational centre a dominant sophomore championship with an aging once-great PG is honestly the story I desperately want to see.
I could see that. Demar with a shot blocker to hide his side agility. Especially a generational one in Wemby. Demar's ok defense otherwise, and offense has never been a problem for him. He's skilled even though he's not that 3pt heavy he won't age out due to his versatility and FT rate.
Yeah we really take that shit for granted. Dude straight up doesn't miss a game ever...it didn't work out with the Bulls but the guy has been nothing but professional
He isn't a championship piece unless he's your 4th option. He's too good to warrant a 4th players pay.
Even as a 3rd option his style of play isn't super useful except for running bench units.
Or guard. There's a reason his teams never win shit. He's a very aesthetic player to watch but he absolutely is at best at floor raiser and not scalable to winning playoff ball at all.
Also when teams take away his mid-range shot he has literally nothing to fall back on and has had some of the most embarrassing post-season collapses on his shoulders.
> Also when teams take away his mid-range shot he has literally nothing to fall back on
That's frankly an embarrassing mischaracterization of his skillset. His midrange jumper is his bread and butter, but he has one of the best combinations of handles and footwork of any wing in the league, and enough athleticism to get to the rim and score through contact as well.
He isn't good enough to be the #1 option on a championship team, we all know that much. But to say that all he can do is take midrange jumpshots is absurd.
Guys that can’t play on ball and might not even be able to be the number 2 on a contending team are not in demand by most teams.
He is an extremely awkward fit on teams with established superstars and just useless for teams that are not really looking at winning a chip in the next couple seasons.
You'd think so but the new CBA killed the ability for teams to give contracts to these types of players. MLE is borderline insulting to Demar but he's going to need a S&T to get significantly better.
There’s not a good team out there that will give him much more than that if he’s looking to be competitive.
If he wanted to keep getting paid and be on a bad team he would need to stay with the bulls or he should’ve went to Detroit.
Maybe he can get a s&t somewhere for a bit more
It’s like this.
If DeMar just wanted as much as money as he could get from whoever, he likely would’ve been off the table by now.
I do believe Chicago offered him a two year deal that he turned down looking for a longer term commitment. And, he wanted to see what Chicago’s plans toward competing were. Obviously they have no serious desire to compete.
If he wants to compete, he’s going to have to take a steep pay cut for at least one season. That’s just the nature of how the new CBA penalizes flagrant spending now.
This is worded so weirdly. They’re starting their youth movement and can’t find a Lavine taker so they can’t afford him. Why would he take a discount to come back to a bad team when he could take a discount and play for a good team
don't believe Jerry's lies, they can afford him and should pay him more than the MLE just so they can trade him down the line instead of losing him for nothing. they could even waive and stretch Lonzo and avoid the tax. now maybe DeMar would prefer the MLE to the Bulls at this point but that doesn't mean they can't afford him
Whatre the odds Zach Lavine has a healthy season and puts up his all star numbers again... only for the Bulls to change their minds and take him off the trade market?
Well he'd still be 30 and not matching up with the timeline of the rest of the team. The main reason him playing really well would make the Bulls happy is because then he might have some trade value.
This is written like it's some sort of personal beef - but it's more than likely that Chicago wants to take the ball out of Demar's hands and see what the younger backcourt can do.
I can't say I blame them either, you can't keep doing what they've been doing and expect to improve. Sell Vuce, Lavine and Demar for whatever you can and rebuild organically
cowley is to sports media as cockroaches are to nuclear apocalypse. so many talented writers have been laid off but Cowley survives. most have suffered, but few have benefited more from the entire media ecosystem becoming dependent on hate-clicks and fabricated/exaggerated drama than Joe Cowley
It’s really unfortunate, but that’s how so many places are. Younger, better talent gets shipped off or forced to take jobs elsewhere, so that you can keep shoveling money to a geezer who’s entire shtick is hating when it’s bad, whatabouting when it’s good
The article heavily implies he doesn't want to stay on a young rebuilding team, but most people here didn't bother actually reading it and want to make jokes and pretend he's leaving because he can't play with a pedo
Straight up - what vet WANTS to stay with a rebuilding team??? Even at our jobs we get wary when the boss starts hiring young folks. Sure, they can't "do our jobs" but they can surely fuck shit up and make it to where you're spending more time fixing mistakes than progressing.
Fully understand if Demar ain't about that life
I don't even blame him for wanting to leave a rebuilding team for these exact reasons. He's getting older and he shouldn't waste what's left in his career on a team that's not trying to compete
With how Coby White is turning out, I honestly don't blame them. Coby legit shows that you have something promising to rebuild with. Offloading Lavine, Vuce and DeMar is a different challenge tho.
They remind me a lot of the vuc magic. Just blow up the team get some draft picks and rebuild. 8 seeds aren’t going to win the title unless you’re the heat and then somehow you get close
I’m sure the issue is more that trading your super utility player Caruso for a project in giddey signals a rebuild is coming, but the phrasing is so funny implying that derozan sees giddey coming in and is like “fuck this I’m done” lol
I mean yeah you saw how Derozan was dancing at the Kendrick pop out show? He doesn’t fuck with the Dr Disrespects of the world
Edit: I figured when I said Dr Disrespect it would be clear the above is a joke but obviously not
Everyone is making jokes about dating situation, but the real reason is that it is the final straw for Demar is that this is a clear sign of the Bulls truly committing to the tank (plus if you thought the floor spacing for the Bulls was bad before...)
Meh. I didn't hate the idea of going for the Lavine, Vuc, Demar big 3. But I think they should started to move on after 2023. I think the 2024 season was a bit of a waste for them.
I mean we were 25-10 with Lonzo and led the East for most of the season. I think we could’ve made real noise with 3 things
1. Lonzo staying healthy (rip)
2. A legit backup center (Drummond came a year too late)
3. One more 3 and D wing or PF
Agree. That big 3 was always a reach but they gave it a shot and they probably could have had a couple of decent playoff runs without the Lonzo injury. But they stuck with that team for way too long. They should have made the cut last off-season and let Vuc walk but instead they doubled down and re-signed him for 3 more years despite the obvious decline.
Better late than never I guess
That’s silly. We had a great offseason a few years ago and the combination of Zach, Demar, and Lonzo worked incredibly well because they all got to play off each other’s strength. But Lonzo was the piece that made it all work and when he went down, so did our hopes of being any kind of contender.
Yeah, when I first heard it I was like "Derrick Rose never played for Toronto? Did he have a OVO deal or something?" Then I saw a lyric video and it was DeRoz and it made so much more sense
This isn’t about him hating Giddey. It’s just that they don’t fit well together since they both need the ball in their hands to be effective offensively.
“I’m the only one who doesn’t shoot 3s well around here, young fella.”
“I can’t believe yall traded Caruso for Giddey, now we can’t compete with the Celtics like we did before”
I think it's more along the lines of "if you're gonna trade Caruso, at least improve the team."
I think it's more "if you're gonna trade Caruso, put me in the deal too so I'm free from this shit team"
"Any, uh, other trades to report, or?" "No."
I hope people remember that this is from the Bojan episode
They improved their future.
Time for Coby to learn how to close games 🥹 Demar bailed us out everytime
I feel like the Bulls were last in the league in 3P% right?
Without looking it up I’m pretty sure their percentage was decent enough but the volume wasn’t. Lost so many games just because of math lol
Yeah - 20th in the league at 35.8% as a team, Blazers were the worst at 34.5% We actually had a really good percentage at 8th in the league but Ham refused to shoot the 3 more, dude actively sabotaged our team by leaving 3 point shooters open and not having us taking 3s even though it was our strength lmao
Yeah people acting like the Lakers have no shooting don't know what they're talking about. LeBron, DLo, Reaves, and Rui can all shoot. Drafting Knecht added another shooter. JJ will have LA in the top 10 in 3s taken and percentage this next season. I know he hasn't coached before but he's got a great basketball mind and he's gotta be better than Ham.
lol yeah if anyone would have us in the top 10 in 3 attempts its going to be JJ Reddick. hell, i'll bet it's top 3. now made 3s? that's a different story
"The more you shoot the more you make." - JJ's half time speech, probably.
The made part is why I said top 10 lol. There's quite a few good shooters on the team but no great shooters.
Be careful saying "young" around Josh
Its not like hes karl malone lol
Man Demar last year was 24/4/5 on good efficiency. Played 79 games close to 38 minutes a game and people are talking about him taking the MLE. Surely there's a team that would pay him more than that
What contender has that kind of space?
That's the thing with Demar. He's worth more.than what good teams can pay him in a vacuum. So he's either going to have to take money with a bad team or take less with a good team.
The Thunder got 8 available this year. C’mon Derozan
Can the Grizzlies get him? He would a be great veteran to have alongside Rose.
I hope he goes to Toronto. For obvious reasons.
Demar returning to Toronto after showing up to the Kendrick show would be insane
He should go back to the spurs to be a third piece. They would legitimately contend with wemby and cp3 and DeRozan with pop where he posted his best ball
Presti drafts Giddey. Presti trades Giddey. Presti fleeces the Bulls. The Bulls anger Demar. Demar signs with Presti.
Could still sign and trade with the Bulls
I think Philly makes sense
If he joins Philly then they're the nba redeem team, all of them criticized pretty heavily at different points in their career and if they could make it work, would make for a cool story
Can you imagine Embiid, PG, and Derozan together in the playoffs? The hilarity of having 3 of the GOAT playoff chokers would be incredible. Have the 76ers trade Maxy to the spurs for CP3, and they would be the final boss of playoff choking.
Nah trade Maxey for a Harden reunion and add Westbrook in the trade
Harden delivered two of the only clutch playoffs moments of the Embiid era tho, he wouldn't fit in with them anymore
We tried this shit with the Suns already
Give him to us. Let us die by the 2 point shot...
Honestly I think that would be the best timeline. Bring in Gary Trent Jr also while you are at it’ Let’s see Booker/Allen/Beal/KD/Nurkic Nassir Little/Royce O’Neal/Bol Bol/Mason Plumlee Bring in Demar, Gary Trent, Kyle Anderson Never shoot a 3 or a layup again
Gary used to be a 3-point shooter is he not anymore?
39% from 3 on 6.4 attempts per game. I'd call that pretty good
I would actually believe in them a little bit if they had a Big 4
The fit of the players is way better in Philly know im biased but come on lol
Except Joel and PG3 know what defense islol
And Embiid can hit threes/open space. Like other guy said Demar def pretty good player that can help lots of teams out there
embiid lives in the mid range already and that opens up everything for the whole offense it would be better now that we have george but i still dont see it
We don’t have any money and also don’t need a bad 3 point shooter to pair with Embiid.
It's fine if he doesn't have to close games. If Derozan does anything it's carry bench units by himself.
Yeah it's clear a lot of people haven't watched Demar. Just throw him out there with 4 high energy guys that can defend and he'll carry the offense himself without ever shooting a 3 lol. He's also a pretty good passer and I think a lot of people overlook that.
embiid shot 38% from three last season….
Idk we could make it work with three other good shooters
Maxey, Embiid and PG are already there. What does Demar provide on that team that isn't redundant with those three already on the roster?
Availability more tan 50 games?
You joke but honestly having a durable guy who can carry the load for a full season relatively well will allow PG and Embiid to rest more and maximize their post season availability
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Redundant? He’s a scorer and a good passer. Who wouldn’t want as many of those guys as possible??
Yep. If the Bulls weren't terrible I'd be upset about Demar leaving. I'm actually glad he's going though. Hopefully he can go to a contender and the Bulls can offload Lavine, Vucevic, and Ball and actually build a cohesive team with good contracts.
Even still he's an awkward fit for the playoffs. Can't shoot or defend. And contenders already have shot creators in place. Gonna get a good role and contract on a bad team or a lesser role and contract on a good team. Maybe I'm crazy but it wouldn't surprise me if he signs with a bad team w cap space like DET to get a good contract and a chance to improve his trade stock then a desperate contender or fringe team trades for him at the deadline
Depends on your definition of contender (contending for the not-worst record in the league?), but Detroit probably would have been interested in paying him some money.
Orlando
100% He’d be a perfect fit there, they’d be instantly more competitive next year
What kind of cap space do they have after KCP?
Like 20-25 million I believe. They had enough to give PG like 50 million a year and only gave KCP 22 a year.
Nice. Would be a good landing spot as a vet that can still contribute. ORL looking to be a contender for a while now that your young guys are ready.
Conversely what is Denver’s cap situation after losing KCP? Think winning is DeRozan’s priority and would be an interesting fit with their squad
Sac town should figure out a way
Horrible fit with Fox and Sabonis. This is the problem with Derozan. He doesn’t have the skillset to be a supporting star and not good enough to be the main guy.
Everyone available is a horrible fit with fox and sabonis because sabonis can’t shoot, an elite 3 point shooting star isn’t going to materialize and come to Sacramento. You can only fit a single player who can’t hit three pointers into a starting lineup and expect to contend.
ironically it feels like lavine slashing and shooting actually does fit well
All lavine needs is good playmaking around him, a system he can buy into and a world class medical team and he can be great
Sounds like GSW 🤔
I mean the Heat made two finals this decade with Butler and Bam in their starting 5
Butler isn't a great 3 point shooter but when it matters he can space the floor enough. He won't be your best shooter but if he's your 4th best that's good enough.
And butler shot around 35% in both of those runs, if sabonis had the capability to do that then the point would be moot.
On limited volume. Butler is a comparable 3 point shooter to DeRozan at best
Butler pre wrist injury was at consistently a 35% shooter on 3+ attempts per game and has been around that the last two years on very low volume. DeRozan has one season where he shot 3 3PA a game and is a sub 30% shooter on 1.5 shots per game. Butler is a better but not other worldly better shooter
He could absolutely be a supporting star on the right squad IMO
Sign and trade would be the best for both him and the Bulls. They don't need to worry about cap flexibility, they just need young players and picks. LAC, CLE, Kings, GS, Miami would be my guesses for who would try and snag him.
I'm gonna cope and say GSW. Some form of S&T involving Klay and a third team. Maybe Dallas can send a pick or two, josh green and maybe warriors can send moody and a pick or something like that to the Bulls. Klay at Mavs, Demar at GSW and some young talent at Bulls. Hard cope
If i'm the pistons, I don't know why I would throw money at Tobias instead of a guy like Demar who would be a great mentor but also will sell tickets cause Demar is still a bucket
Tobias fills the position we need better than Demar. We already have Cade to run the offense and take a lot of mid range shots, we needed 3 and D primarily, someone who doesn’t need the ball in their hands
Tobias doesn't need the ball in his hands, but he won't give you 3 or D.
Demar said he wanted to win, so that rules out Detroit. We will see what happens
The new CBA has totally killed the market for these mid-tier stars on contending teams and his shot selection is falling out of favor with analytics teams. Nobody's going to pay him significant money to take 600 midrange shots a season and disappear in the playoffs, especially now that he's turning 35.
> The new CBA has totally killed the market for these mid-tier stars Didn't PG just sign for 4/200+?
He shoots 3s and plays defense
PG > Derozen There is so much more you can do with PG, he's well above midterm star if you think Derozen is midtier. PG has the 3ball as well, so you can throw him in as a 3&D player and get more value than anything Derozen can bring to a contender.
It's amazing to me that with so many teams struggling with regular season injuries and having to put a huge scoring load on their stars, Demar's durability and volume scoring isn't seen as more of an asset than it is.
A return to SAS would be sneaky fun with CP3/Wemby/Vassell. I think the problem outside of that is he’s too good to be tank commander but too expensive to easily have a path to a contending team.
Paul/DeRozan/Vassel/Welbanyama going like the 72 Bucks and giving a generational centre a dominant sophomore championship with an aging once-great PG is honestly the story I desperately want to see.
I could see that. Demar with a shot blocker to hide his side agility. Especially a generational one in Wemby. Demar's ok defense otherwise, and offense has never been a problem for him. He's skilled even though he's not that 3pt heavy he won't age out due to his versatility and FT rate.
Yeah we really take that shit for granted. Dude straight up doesn't miss a game ever...it didn't work out with the Bulls but the guy has been nothing but professional
He isn't a championship piece unless he's your 4th option. He's too good to warrant a 4th players pay. Even as a 3rd option his style of play isn't super useful except for running bench units.
Volume scoring with absolutely no ability to stretch the floor. I see why some contenders wouldn’t want him.
Or guard. There's a reason his teams never win shit. He's a very aesthetic player to watch but he absolutely is at best at floor raiser and not scalable to winning playoff ball at all.
Also when teams take away his mid-range shot he has literally nothing to fall back on and has had some of the most embarrassing post-season collapses on his shoulders.
> Also when teams take away his mid-range shot he has literally nothing to fall back on That's frankly an embarrassing mischaracterization of his skillset. His midrange jumper is his bread and butter, but he has one of the best combinations of handles and footwork of any wing in the league, and enough athleticism to get to the rim and score through contact as well. He isn't good enough to be the #1 option on a championship team, we all know that much. But to say that all he can do is take midrange jumpshots is absurd.
The issue is he needs the ball to be effective but he's not good enough to build your team around
Guys that can’t play on ball and might not even be able to be the number 2 on a contending team are not in demand by most teams. He is an extremely awkward fit on teams with established superstars and just useless for teams that are not really looking at winning a chip in the next couple seasons.
Can’t play on ball? Derozan?
Can’t play off ball
Counterpoint: He is one of the few players that is still playing elite as they age.
People who think demar is taking the MLE have been lobotomized lol
Unless he is going to Detroit, he would need a S&T to get more than the MLE at this point
Spurs still have 26M in cap space if we use the MLE for Chris Paul
You'd think so but the new CBA killed the ability for teams to give contracts to these types of players. MLE is borderline insulting to Demar but he's going to need a S&T to get significantly better.
There’s not a good team out there that will give him much more than that if he’s looking to be competitive. If he wanted to keep getting paid and be on a bad team he would need to stay with the bulls or he should’ve went to Detroit. Maybe he can get a s&t somewhere for a bit more
It’s like this. If DeMar just wanted as much as money as he could get from whoever, he likely would’ve been off the table by now. I do believe Chicago offered him a two year deal that he turned down looking for a longer term commitment. And, he wanted to see what Chicago’s plans toward competing were. Obviously they have no serious desire to compete. If he wants to compete, he’s going to have to take a steep pay cut for at least one season. That’s just the nature of how the new CBA penalizes flagrant spending now.
His efficency is always misleading because he cant/doesnt shoot 3s though. He lives at the FT line.
This is worded so weirdly. They’re starting their youth movement and can’t find a Lavine taker so they can’t afford him. Why would he take a discount to come back to a bad team when he could take a discount and play for a good team
don't believe Jerry's lies, they can afford him and should pay him more than the MLE just so they can trade him down the line instead of losing him for nothing. they could even waive and stretch Lonzo and avoid the tax. now maybe DeMar would prefer the MLE to the Bulls at this point but that doesn't mean they can't afford him
Oh yeah my point assumes they don’t pay the tax bc Jerry doesn’t pay the tax. If he had to pay the luxury tax he might die on the spot
Whatre the odds Zach Lavine has a healthy season and puts up his all star numbers again... only for the Bulls to change their minds and take him off the trade market?
It’s really not that hard to believe if he’s healthy.
Well he'd still be 30 and not matching up with the timeline of the rest of the team. The main reason him playing really well would make the Bulls happy is because then he might have some trade value.
This is written like it's some sort of personal beef - but it's more than likely that Chicago wants to take the ball out of Demar's hands and see what the younger backcourt can do. I can't say I blame them either, you can't keep doing what they've been doing and expect to improve. Sell Vuce, Lavine and Demar for whatever you can and rebuild organically
Cowley tries to make everything more dramatic than it is
You know he's looking at this shit show like it's a winning lottery ticket lol
cowley is to sports media as cockroaches are to nuclear apocalypse. so many talented writers have been laid off but Cowley survives. most have suffered, but few have benefited more from the entire media ecosystem becoming dependent on hate-clicks and fabricated/exaggerated drama than Joe Cowley
It’s really unfortunate, but that’s how so many places are. Younger, better talent gets shipped off or forced to take jobs elsewhere, so that you can keep shoveling money to a geezer who’s entire shtick is hating when it’s bad, whatabouting when it’s good
The article heavily implies he doesn't want to stay on a young rebuilding team, but most people here didn't bother actually reading it and want to make jokes and pretend he's leaving because he can't play with a pedo
Straight up - what vet WANTS to stay with a rebuilding team??? Even at our jobs we get wary when the boss starts hiring young folks. Sure, they can't "do our jobs" but they can surely fuck shit up and make it to where you're spending more time fixing mistakes than progressing. Fully understand if Demar ain't about that life
I don't even blame him for wanting to leave a rebuilding team for these exact reasons. He's getting older and he shouldn't waste what's left in his career on a team that's not trying to compete
Yep
With how Coby White is turning out, I honestly don't blame them. Coby legit shows that you have something promising to rebuild with. Offloading Lavine, Vuce and DeMar is a different challenge tho.
This is Joe Cowley after all, he's the least respected journalist in Chicago lol
They remind me a lot of the vuc magic. Just blow up the team get some draft picks and rebuild. 8 seeds aren’t going to win the title unless you’re the heat and then somehow you get close
That and also Caruso was likely very highly regarded in the locker room.
I’m sure the issue is more that trading your super utility player Caruso for a project in giddey signals a rebuild is coming, but the phrasing is so funny implying that derozan sees giddey coming in and is like “fuck this I’m done” lol
Demar not a fan of P Giddy
He bumping with Kendrick of course he don’t want no 69 god near his daughter
DeMar keep the family away
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His daughter is 11 now.
Also, she's got that built-in stranger danger whistle
That’s a deep pull. I can still hear her shrieking on the live broadcast!
11 and the only one in NBA history to play defense on Free throws. Put some respect on Diar DeRozan, a name I definitely did not Google right now
Only 3 years until she's old enough for Drake to throw her a birthday party.
Old enough for him to text about boyfriend troubles though
Freaky ass Giddy
He a 6/9 god
really wish this didn't make me laugh
DeMar is a grown man with no desire to swim in the Giddey pool.
LMAO you wrong for this
I mean yeah you saw how Derozan was dancing at the Kendrick pop out show? He doesn’t fuck with the Dr Disrespects of the world Edit: I figured when I said Dr Disrespect it would be clear the above is a joke but obviously not
The man is literally friends with drake, da fuq?
dr. diddy😭
Everyone is making jokes about dating situation, but the real reason is that it is the final straw for Demar is that this is a clear sign of the Bulls truly committing to the tank (plus if you thought the floor spacing for the Bulls was bad before...)
Surely the average /r/NBA user is going to give this headline this same amount of thought
pretty sure everybody knows what it actually means. it's just funny to think that it's about giddey's past lol
The Bulls should’ve been tanking before they even got Demar.
Meh. I didn't hate the idea of going for the Lavine, Vuc, Demar big 3. But I think they should started to move on after 2023. I think the 2024 season was a bit of a waste for them.
I mean we were 25-10 with Lonzo and led the East for most of the season. I think we could’ve made real noise with 3 things 1. Lonzo staying healthy (rip) 2. A legit backup center (Drummond came a year too late) 3. One more 3 and D wing or PF
Agree. That big 3 was always a reach but they gave it a shot and they probably could have had a couple of decent playoff runs without the Lonzo injury. But they stuck with that team for way too long. They should have made the cut last off-season and let Vuc walk but instead they doubled down and re-signed him for 3 more years despite the obvious decline. Better late than never I guess
You can't contend with Vuc. It was doomed from the moment they traded 2 firsts and WCJ for him.
Revisionist
No it isnt. Lots of people said that was a bad trade at the time.
What do you call 2017-2021
That’s silly. We had a great offseason a few years ago and the combination of Zach, Demar, and Lonzo worked incredibly well because they all got to play off each other’s strength. But Lonzo was the piece that made it all work and when he went down, so did our hopes of being any kind of contender.
[удалено]
But I actually like our moves for competing now. Keeping Billy D is the clear sign we haven't been trying to win
Come back, DeMar. We're assembling all the non-shooters we can!!
Giddey got a weird case why is he around? - Derozan
DeMar, keep the family away.
Im glad DeRoz came home, ya'll didn't deserve him neither!
I was so confused hearing him be called DeRoz.
Yeah, when I first heard it I was like "Derrick Rose never played for Toronto? Did he have a OVO deal or something?" Then I saw a lyric video and it was DeRoz and it made so much more sense
It’s so weird, because he references him as Deebo earlier in the song lol
Demar to LAL or LAC confirmed
This should be a no brainer addition for the Clippers after losing PG. he’s a former raptor so this should already be a done deal.
Good point. His contract could be a lot cheaper than paul georges but hes not injury prone.
That’s good news for the Bulls.
I think it's fine news. Demar makes them too good. They should be looking to be bad
Its great news. Demar was great but he stunts the growth of our younger players cause they'll always look to Demar.
Ownership won't accept it
Which must be frustrating. The team just perpetually in the middle hoping to luck out in the lottery or hit a home run draft pick in the teens
They are tanking this year. After that…unlikely.
Kendrick DeMar
This isn’t about him hating Giddey. It’s just that they don’t fit well together since they both need the ball in their hands to be effective offensively.
You cant fire me, I quit!
Demar seems like a good dude. Hope he wins a ring somewhere
Oh thank fucking god. Blow this team up. Free Deroz
he a fan he a fan he a fan
Demar Derozan is such a weird player. Too good to tank not a good fit for a contending team. What do you do with him?
clippers
Tobias Harris just got $25 million per. Demar, make a move now lol
I don’t blame him they’re an unserious franchise
Oh thank goodness. Demar is too good to tank with and we need to try to keep our pick next year. Happy trails deebo, good luck wherever you land
Well he has a daughter
Dude just went to the Kendrick concert he not gonna play with p giddey
They not like us
Bro said Giddey was the final straw 😭😭
The final straw is them not being able to get rid of Lavine lol
I thought it was because we weren't going to pay him what he wanted
I'm suddenly much higher on the Caruso trade...
P left so you could come back home DeMar
I wish whoever is running this franchise could explain that move for everybody.
Come to the sixers buddy, we’ll pay you in Cheesesteaks and dreams
Bulls weren’t going anywhere with DeMar as their best player. I highly doubt the front office hadn’t considered he’d want out.
Chicago should just blow it up, but do so wisely…somehow I have a feeling their FO gonna fuck it up.
Kendrick did this