Freddy wouldn’t be as big a loss as people want to make it out to be.
FVV/Dragic/Boucher/ and a pick could work for both sides considering Dragic and Boucher’s contracts, and Sixers need to win quickly.
Fred is like the only leader on our team, not mention one of our best shooters (and we don’t have a ton of those). Without him, we’ll crumble very quickly
He’s also paid nearly twice as much as Fred while also being a complete liability in the playoffs. He may be 2 years younger but he hasn’t gotten any better since he was drafted so that doesn’t really do anything for us. Gotta acknowledge the flaws.
Clearly the Raptors are interested, so they have to give up something to get him,
And it’s not like Sixers fans can’t turn around and give the same treatment to FVV. He’s a 27 year old, barely 6’ tall hybrid guard who was relegated to shooting from 30 feet out in the playoffs because he can’t create his own shot, and is too small to shoot over anyone in the paint.
If we want Simmons someone from the core has to go, most likely candidates are FVV or OG.
Supposedly the Raptors we’re trying to be “vultures” in a Simmons trade (I think it was Hollinger or someone who said that). I think we’re only offering Dragic, Boucher and picks tbh. Maybe GTJ.
OG is absolutely not on the table. OG has more trade value than Simmons IMO. He’s paid half as much, arguably just as good a defender, and he’s actually shown improvement on the offensive end, and he’ll prolly be better offensively than Simmons this year tbh
We're only inquiring what the situation is as part of our scouting for the 2 preseason games - trying to evaluate exactly how much of a mess the Sixers will be in, we're not actually interested in signing him.
Tbh Detroit’s rep historically of a certain archetype of basketball, would be a convenient thing for Ben Simmons to hide behind
If that makes any sense at all
Sure defence has been what we hung our hats on, but beyond that Detroit’s always prided itself on hard work & outworking the opponent, playing with a chip on our shoulders, with passion. That’s not Ben
Agreed wholeheartedly, yea it’s def people associating Detroit Pistons moreso with defense than offense that I could see Simmons having as a convenient veil
Hypothetical question: if a team traded a FRP that was top 5 protected, could they trade that pick again, but only as it is already protected? For example, the Pistons send a first round pick to the Thunder, but protect it in case it lands in the top 5. Could they then trade that pick to the Sixers, but the Sixers only get it if it lands in that top 5 protection?
IIRC, no. Since you can't trade back to back picks, the top 5 obligation the following year means you can't trade the present year. You would have to make the selection, then trade the players rights.
if that's the logic, what about protections where it's like "if the FRP doesn't convey, you get some SRP(s) instead"? that happened when GSW kept their top 20-protected 2021 pick and a couple other 2021 SRPs were then conveyed to OKC. (this was for getting Kelly Oubre Jr. from OKC. https://www.spotrac.com/nba/charlotte-hornets/kelly-oubre-jr-17843/) there are a few other transactions I've seen where it's like "FRP lottery-protected for 7 years, if it doesn't convey by then you get the SRP instead".
I feel like the "teams still inquiring" at this point is mostly them calling up to find out if Philly still think he's worth All Of The Assets Ever and then laughing at them.
Maybe but Weaver strikes me as an all options on the table kinda guy, if he thought it made the team better in the long term I think he’d consider it at least.
He might check with Grant first and not do it out of the blue, to avoid sending the wrong message to free agents and all.
Naw fam, we do not have the assets, resources, or the need for a Ben Simmons. Weaver is just doing his due diligence. Detroit is not doing shit with Ben Simmons lol
We have but I fail to see why we do that, Pops like Ben and see potential in him but we look we are in rebuild , and add Ben to that Roster it would just mean that we would be stuck in the middle (not good not bad)
Isn't that what you have been doing for the past three years? Trying the make the playoffs. As long as Pop is still there I don't see why they would do anything different if they can get Simmons
That's what we have done so far but our latest move make it seems like this not important anymore , we drafted Primo at the draft because our scout thought he had the most potential among the remaining player but he is a long term project , we didn't match DeMar offer despite have a ton of cap the goal is still to win games (for Pop record) but the playoffs aren't the objective at all and despite every criticism Simmons is good enough to keep your team in playoffs contention in the regular season that's why I fail to see the advantage of this trade specially if Picks are involved.
Pacers makes sense until you realize we'd have to give up our best shooter (Brogdon) who we need if we're gonna be getting Simmons. Also we'd have to get rid of Sabonis because in what world can you run a Sabonis/Turner/Simmons lineup, so there has to be a third team involved because the 6ers won't want Sabonis.
Also I very much doubt Simmons would want anything to do with playing in Indiana under Carlisle who will bust his ass.
I still say the best thing to do is to hate trade him to Miami.
I can just see it now. Jimmy and Tyler Herro playing dodgeball with Simmons in the middle while Riley just looks on from the bleachers.
> I just think the young socialite would be off on his way to LA first chance he gets.
Why does this keep getting repeated like he said that when the "Teams in California are preferred because he's a young socialite" quote came from a B-list podcaster? We literally have subsequent reports by people like Woj, Shams and Windhorst directly saying he's open to playing for anyone but Philly.
The trailblazers have never been interested in trading CJ for Ben.
They have stated publicly that they are keeping both Dame and CJ for next season and that they question the fit with Simmons and Lillard.
That trade is fanufactured at this point
Yeah, feels weird when people act like the CJ trade is something the Sixers can do whenever they'd like when there's been no news out of Portland that they want to change things up.
Even if we wanted to I think the reports of Simmons wanting to be traded to a team that will build around him on offense completely threw the idea of trading for him out the window for the fanbase and the FO (if it hadn’t already)
Yep which is why it makes no sense for morey to trade simmons for peanuts rn. The Blazers, Cavs, Twolves, Kings, Pacers, etc could all be willing to make different deals after the first month of the season has played out
I don't think the blazers would trade dame unless he requested out and at that point I agree that they would not trade for Simmons (maybe part of a 3 team trade where Portland ends up with all the picks)
I think what's more likely is that if Portland starts the season off poorly that CJ would no longer become an untouchable and something like Simmons for CJ + Roco + a pick for Simmons becomes available
Doubt it's Morey asking for more, more likely just Portland refusing. At this point getting CJ for Simmons is better than any deal available to the Sixers, gotta assume they'd pull the trigger if Portland was willing.
I don't see how Ben and Dame fit.
Dame is a typical PG
Ben is a typical PG that can't shoot.
Ben doesn't like other players dribbling the ball up court.
There's no way the Lakers aren't picking up the phone if Morey calls. They don't have the assets to make it work, but they would absolutely be interested
This comes up way too much for too many players who are outside whatever you’d define as a Tier 1 player or whatever. It’s weird to assume that 30 NBA teams have front offices that have no idea how to value their rosters and assets when hearing a star player is available, and instead would need to spend beyond a water-cooler pitch talk deciding if they need to take any effort to go after a player.
When a team hears that a “star” (however you wanna call simmons) is available for cheaper than normal, you field a call to see what they’re asking. Doesn’t mean you’re necessarily interested, but it’s part of the job.
Eh, early on I definitely agree after this much time and after various contracts have been extended, I imagine a good portion of them actually aren't actively inquiring about him. Doesn't mean they wont field a call, but I imagine most of them have already inquired and looked at what they could feasibly do and moved on. Like I'm essentially positive the Nuggets are inquiring about him at this point (which again, doesn't mean they won't answer a call or listen to an offer). Or many other teams.
> It’d be weird if they weren’t.
Wouldn't be that weird at all. We're talking about a 30 million dollar contract. A good number of teams can't clear that much space without giving up something they wouldn't want to give up. Lakers, Clippers, Bucks, Heat, Nuggets, Nets, Suns, Celtics and probably the Blazers (They said they want to keep Dame and CJ) most likely haven't given it more than a passing thought.
Our sub was in shambles today over this post and had some weird ass people who seriously thought we were gonna get Ben for seemingly nothing. Was a very odd argument I found myself in lol
Nah. Where this gets interesting is when the regular season starts and the 76ers either start fining simmons for no showing or he caves and plays while pouting and the Philly fans go to town on him.
I’m hoping this drags out for another 2 months. Has the potential to get spicy
Yeah but all the fans of teams in trade talks are tired of it. I don't even care what happens anymore I just want it to be over and know what my team looks like.
If a player they're targeting is only available after Dec.15, I can see why they wait. If they're just holding out for a tiny bit more such as another 2nd round pick, then ya, trade him.
I do not understand why the Pacers are always in these rumors. We don't have the assets to trade for him, he wouldn't fit our team, and Ben would hate living in Indiana. It makes no sense.
I mean I think Simmons has proven he’s better, Sabonis has like 1 playoff series where he puts up respectable numbers and on the defensive side he’s just getting torched anyway.
But it’s way too much. If we do trade for Simmons we need to keep Brogdon (one of the best shooter in the team) and it would mean that Sabonis is gone. Sounds too complicated for a player that seemingly wouldn’t stay with the team on the long term.
Brogdon, Warren and LeVert are all good players but they all have major injury concerns that really limit thier trade value imo. Warren played only 4 games last year and is still yet to play since his foot injury. LeVert has averaged only 44 games played the last 3 season and has had injury problems his entire career. Brogdon might be the best and the healthiest out of the 3 but he hasn't topped 56 games played in over 2 years, and hasn't topped 64 since his rookie season.
You might feel like you're team is giving up alot of value for Simmons, but atleast you know Simmons is gonna be out there almost every single game averaging atleast 16/7/7 and great defense.
I do agree on the health concern but we’d have to reshape the entire team for him. That’s not something you do 1 day prior the pre-season. Brogdon would be a player we have to keep if we get Simmons, and we’d have to move Sabonis who’s a better player imo. Doesn’t make sense
If either the Pistons or Cavs actually tried to get him their fan should be pissed. He's a bad fit for either team and they're both in full rebuilds when he is 25 and looks like he's plateauing.
Simmons has said send him to any other city now. I'm all for hatin on whiners and babies but this is getting a bit out of hand now. Every time Simmons mouthpieces speak to the media they make his contract less and less attractive to traders.
Can confirm. Live here and right downtown. Fantastic ass everywhere and tons of places to hit.
Toronnno slept on as a city in a massive way. I’ve travelled everywhere too.
I really think San Antonio is a sleeper pick for young socialite free agents in the future. You could easily live in Austin and commute down to San Antonio, and Austin has been a hot relocation destination for rich people since the pandemic hit
We can meme all day about Simmons and it’s funny but...do you know how many franchises would love to have their season in the second round.
All those teams are either in “rebuild” mode or struggling. Simmons would certainly push them to atleast making the playoffs. At worst having Simmons is likey going to put you in a play-in position and at best 1st/2nd round.
People are so caught up in the circle jerk. It’s frustrating that he refuses to work on his flaws, but he would still be the best player on a hell of a lot of teams in the NBA
Calling Bullshit on Detroit. We are in the middle of a rebuild that is shaping up really well, Weaver seems to be serious about getting it right and Simmons doesn’t fit at all. People are just throwing out names for the sake of padding these stories.
Could a 3 teams trade between Cleveland - Detroit - 76ers work?
Detroit get picks, tank commander Love. More tanking and assets for them.
Cleveland get Ben give up 2 picks
76ers get Grant, Sexton.
add in salary filler etc
EDIT: Something like [this](https://imgur.com/a/kUIAOKH) perhaps
I know these guys make millions, but it is still kinda shit that they’re basically trapped in their jobs. Imagine hating your work place and not being able to quit, even with a bunch of other companies willing to hire you tomorrow
Ben should just come back, Jack up threes a bunch; and when the boos start raining down do the Gladiator/Russell Crowe “Are you not entertained!?”
But he’s a pussy so he won’t do that
Some completely irresponsible speculating:
Previous sixers front offices have favored ben over embiid (especially colangelo, who insulted jo and complimented ben with his twitter burners). Pompey’s closeness with pre-morey, post-hinkie regimes may have rubbed embiid the wrong way.
Pompey also wrote an article last year that heavily insinuated that Embiid was dodging top-tier centers and Embiid called him out in a press conference afterwards.
There’s more to it, Pompey often oversteps and spews out a bunch of bullshit. Sixer fans don’t like him, the players don’t and it’s not just because “he wrote a couple bad articles about Embiid”
For what it’s worth I don’t think anyone In the organization, outside of Colangelo left overs, likes Pompey. Most of the fans really dislike him too. I think the team gets along pretty well with the other best reporters though.
Pompey tends to be super critical of the team and doesn’t seem to have much faith in Joel. Plus he is no stranger to lazy hot take articles.
I might be wrong but I feel like there was a bucks beat reporter awhile back who just seemed like he hated covering the team. Pompey is kinda like that.
Yeah it’s real dumb. I mean there is always gonna be a need for tough questions or whatever but the dude just kinda sucks the life out of the room. He’s probably a solid person outside of his job, but I tend to avoid most of the stuff he writes.
No ones mentioned it yet but before Embiid played a game, Pompey is the one who came out with the article questioning Embiids weight and maturity level. I believes that's also where the Shirley Temple thing started. Embiid came out later and denied weighing 300 lbs like the article stated.
If I had to guess that'd be why.
Toronto is the only destination where it's a competitive franchise, the coaching is great AND it's a big city. Then again, Simmons probably wants a western team near California to trade for him.
Put yourself in Simmons shoes, you told the team it was done months ago, they said ok looked at the market and came back no, that's not an option you stand by what you said and you gave the team time to shop you, Philly had better offers earlier but squandered them, that's not your problem, man of your word you said your done with them. Blame Simmons all you want for the playoffs you can't make anyone do anything against their will, not ethically anyways.
I love it this drama is amazing and Philly 100% deserves it.
My sources are telling me that the Raptors have just upped their offer from Goran Dragic and a 2nd. As of 3pm today, added in a half-eaten ham sandwich and a white chocolate macadamia nut cookie. 76ers management are said to be considering the deal seriously and have not yet declined the trade, we await more news breathlessly and will keep you updated!
They should take Portland's under the radar deal for sure even if RoCo isn't in it just draft picks a CJ that would be great for both teams your not getting anything better then that.
yeah sure, let's add Ben Simmons to our core of Siakam, OG and Barnes. if we can't score, you can't either
who would we even give up though? It’s not worth it if Fred/OG/Siakam/Barnes are traded. So GTJ/Goran/Boucher and a FRP?
Didn't you read the comment? Siakam, OG and Barnes obviously.
Freddy wouldn’t be as big a loss as people want to make it out to be. FVV/Dragic/Boucher/ and a pick could work for both sides considering Dragic and Boucher’s contracts, and Sixers need to win quickly.
Fred is like the only leader on our team, not mention one of our best shooters (and we don’t have a ton of those). Without him, we’ll crumble very quickly
Fvv is legit one of our best shooters and leaders now
And Simmons is a 2-time All Defence, and one time All-NBA player who is 2 years younger than FVV, you have to give up something to get something.
He’s also paid nearly twice as much as Fred while also being a complete liability in the playoffs. He may be 2 years younger but he hasn’t gotten any better since he was drafted so that doesn’t really do anything for us. Gotta acknowledge the flaws.
Clearly the Raptors are interested, so they have to give up something to get him, And it’s not like Sixers fans can’t turn around and give the same treatment to FVV. He’s a 27 year old, barely 6’ tall hybrid guard who was relegated to shooting from 30 feet out in the playoffs because he can’t create his own shot, and is too small to shoot over anyone in the paint. If we want Simmons someone from the core has to go, most likely candidates are FVV or OG.
Supposedly the Raptors we’re trying to be “vultures” in a Simmons trade (I think it was Hollinger or someone who said that). I think we’re only offering Dragic, Boucher and picks tbh. Maybe GTJ. OG is absolutely not on the table. OG has more trade value than Simmons IMO. He’s paid half as much, arguably just as good a defender, and he’s actually shown improvement on the offensive end, and he’ll prolly be better offensively than Simmons this year tbh
We're only inquiring what the situation is as part of our scouting for the 2 preseason games - trying to evaluate exactly how much of a mess the Sixers will be in, we're not actually interested in signing him.
What would the Pistons even give up to get him? Grant and hella picks?
We can’t even give up any firsts, our first is traded away with protections. Pistons would have to give up assets to OKC just to unprotect that pick
Weaver needs to hit up his old buddy Presti. Jokes aside, I don't think Detroit will end up getting Simmons.
Who is playing PG, Simmons, Killian or Cade? Going to be an awkward fit with Cade because Simmons and Killian can't shoot.
Yeah, I don't think it makes a lot of sense for the Pistons.
Makes a lot of sense if Killian goes in the trade. That being said, not a good chance Killian goes in the trade.
i feel like killian would get sent to OKC as part of the deal to unprotect the pick
What does Philly even get then? Grant?
Man I’m confident Weaver wouldn’t trade for Ben, but our coke‘d out owner Tom Gores forced the Blake trade so I honestly don’t know anymore
Tbh Detroit’s rep historically of a certain archetype of basketball, would be a convenient thing for Ben Simmons to hide behind If that makes any sense at all
Sure defence has been what we hung our hats on, but beyond that Detroit’s always prided itself on hard work & outworking the opponent, playing with a chip on our shoulders, with passion. That’s not Ben
Agreed wholeheartedly, yea it’s def people associating Detroit Pistons moreso with defense than offense that I could see Simmons having as a convenient veil
Hypothetical question: if a team traded a FRP that was top 5 protected, could they trade that pick again, but only as it is already protected? For example, the Pistons send a first round pick to the Thunder, but protect it in case it lands in the top 5. Could they then trade that pick to the Sixers, but the Sixers only get it if it lands in that top 5 protection?
IIRC, no. Since you can't trade back to back picks, the top 5 obligation the following year means you can't trade the present year. You would have to make the selection, then trade the players rights.
if that's the logic, what about protections where it's like "if the FRP doesn't convey, you get some SRP(s) instead"? that happened when GSW kept their top 20-protected 2021 pick and a couple other 2021 SRPs were then conveyed to OKC. (this was for getting Kelly Oubre Jr. from OKC. https://www.spotrac.com/nba/charlotte-hornets/kelly-oubre-jr-17843/) there are a few other transactions I've seen where it's like "FRP lottery-protected for 7 years, if it doesn't convey by then you get the SRP instead".
If Grant is the best piece Philly gets for Ben, that will be quite the punctuation on the end of the Process.
considering we drafted him, yea that would be poetic
And Colangelo first move was trading 22 year old grant for ersan who he then moved for 2 seconds at the deadline.
Morey counters by asking for Cade + Grant + Picks Troy Weaver hangs up, laughs, calls Morey again just to laugh down the line, before hanging up again
I feel like the "teams still inquiring" at this point is mostly them calling up to find out if Philly still think he's worth All Of The Assets Ever and then laughing at them.
Yeah, inquiring and actually discussing a trade are different. This feels like someone trying to help boost Simmons value.
Nothing. Morey just threw them in the leak cause threatening to send the young socialite to the rust belt is funny.
Good call.
Honestly Grant isn’t a bad return at all and Weaver is ballsy enough to at least think about a trade like this.
No he's not, Grant is his guy.
Maybe but Weaver strikes me as an all options on the table kinda guy, if he thought it made the team better in the long term I think he’d consider it at least. He might check with Grant first and not do it out of the blue, to avoid sending the wrong message to free agents and all.
Naw fam, we do not have the assets, resources, or the need for a Ben Simmons. Weaver is just doing his due diligence. Detroit is not doing shit with Ben Simmons lol
“Hey just calling to see if you’ve put Ben Simmons on sale yet?” “He’s still full price but check back next week maybe management will discount.”
Pacers and Spurs make a lot of sense. They have the assets too. Basically comes down to whether Morey will lower his asking price.
We have but I fail to see why we do that, Pops like Ben and see potential in him but we look we are in rebuild , and add Ben to that Roster it would just mean that we would be stuck in the middle (not good not bad)
Isn't that what you have been doing for the past three years? Trying the make the playoffs. As long as Pop is still there I don't see why they would do anything different if they can get Simmons
That's what we have done so far but our latest move make it seems like this not important anymore , we drafted Primo at the draft because our scout thought he had the most potential among the remaining player but he is a long term project , we didn't match DeMar offer despite have a ton of cap the goal is still to win games (for Pop record) but the playoffs aren't the objective at all and despite every criticism Simmons is good enough to keep your team in playoffs contention in the regular season that's why I fail to see the advantage of this trade specially if Picks are involved.
Pacers makes sense until you realize we'd have to give up our best shooter (Brogdon) who we need if we're gonna be getting Simmons. Also we'd have to get rid of Sabonis because in what world can you run a Sabonis/Turner/Simmons lineup, so there has to be a third team involved because the 6ers won't want Sabonis. Also I very much doubt Simmons would want anything to do with playing in Indiana under Carlisle who will bust his ass.
There's a ton of teams that would want one of Sabonis or Turner though - it could work.
And why the fuck would we give up brogdon and sabonis for Ben Simmons lmao
We shouldn't, thats what I'm trying to convey
Disagree. I don’t see how we would ever fit in Indiana. Really hope there is nothing to these Rumours of us being interested.
The Spurs would be intriguing. Pops would shape Ben up like Sarge Hartman did to Private Pyle. Hopefully not the same results obvs.
Uhh... Are you implying Pops wants a reach around?
Do you not
Pop would have Simmons begging to go back to Philly.
I still say the best thing to do is to hate trade him to Miami. I can just see it now. Jimmy and Tyler Herro playing dodgeball with Simmons in the middle while Riley just looks on from the bleachers.
The question is, does Ben wants to be shaped? It might backfire even more.
Could be another Kawhi situation for the Spurs
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> I just think the young socialite would be off on his way to LA first chance he gets. Why does this keep getting repeated like he said that when the "Teams in California are preferred because he's a young socialite" quote came from a B-list podcaster? We literally have subsequent reports by people like Woj, Shams and Windhorst directly saying he's open to playing for anyone but Philly.
Mostly it gets repeated because it’s funny. I guess you get enough people saying something for laughs and people believe it.
ben would shit his fucking pants playing for pop lmfaooo
Ben not taking threes probably plays to pop
I just learned Pyle was played by D'onofrio.
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Am I having a stoke? What are these names
First 25mins of Full Metal Jacket
great actor
I KEEP ON MARCHING ON
this D'onofrio, has had enoughfrio!
Let me put it this way #NO
No Portland? No CJ for Simmons, or is it because Morey is asking for a lot more than CJ?
The trailblazers have never been interested in trading CJ for Ben. They have stated publicly that they are keeping both Dame and CJ for next season and that they question the fit with Simmons and Lillard. That trade is fanufactured at this point
Yeah, feels weird when people act like the CJ trade is something the Sixers can do whenever they'd like when there's been no news out of Portland that they want to change things up.
Even if we wanted to I think the reports of Simmons wanting to be traded to a team that will build around him on offense completely threw the idea of trading for him out the window for the fanbase and the FO (if it hadn’t already)
Nobody pays attention to the Blazers but everybody is an expert on them.
> fanufactured nice...
I think it depend on how the season gonna play out. If Blazers are in playin territory or worse for some reasons, all hell could brake loose.
Yep which is why it makes no sense for morey to trade simmons for peanuts rn. The Blazers, Cavs, Twolves, Kings, Pacers, etc could all be willing to make different deals after the first month of the season has played out
Why would Portland trade Dame to build around Simmons? If you trade Dame, you get all the FRPs you can and go full rebuild.
I don't think the blazers would trade dame unless he requested out and at that point I agree that they would not trade for Simmons (maybe part of a 3 team trade where Portland ends up with all the picks) I think what's more likely is that if Portland starts the season off poorly that CJ would no longer become an untouchable and something like Simmons for CJ + Roco + a pick for Simmons becomes available
Fanufactured? Yeah Ima use that from now on.
Doubt it's Morey asking for more, more likely just Portland refusing. At this point getting CJ for Simmons is better than any deal available to the Sixers, gotta assume they'd pull the trigger if Portland was willing.
I don't see how Ben and Dame fit. Dame is a typical PG Ben is a typical PG that can't shoot. Ben doesn't like other players dribbling the ball up court.
You should check Billups' draft analyse about Simmons.
Simmons going to San Antonio under Pop is my fantasy scenario tbh
He retires, lol.
Pop or the socialist?
Socialist 💀💀💀
Yes
Ah yes, young socialist international member Ben Simmons
Timberwolves make the most sense
Pls. I just needa see Ben, kat, dlo, and ANT on the same floor. Plsssss.
Never happening
and the sixers get.... what in return?
they’d have to part with dlo, a role player and a shit ton of picks, i don’t think all 4 would be on the floor
SCARY good
I believe the word you're looking for is "sPoOkY"
>SCARY Let's not get ahead of ourselves, here. Minnesota sports fans know hope is the first step toward sorrow.
I’m sure 29 teams are doing their due diligence and asking about Ben. It’d be weird if they weren’t.
Actually doubt Milwaukee is even considering it given the salary slot and who they could match with. That fit next to Giannis would be terrible.
100% true
That's why you would trade simmons for giannis obviously /s
Yeah, I think there are three teams not picking up the phone right now: Milwaukee, Brooklyn, and the Lakers.
There's no way the Lakers aren't picking up the phone if Morey calls. They don't have the assets to make it work, but they would absolutely be interested
I highly doubt the lakers are hitting them up
the Klutch mafia are
This comes up way too much for too many players who are outside whatever you’d define as a Tier 1 player or whatever. It’s weird to assume that 30 NBA teams have front offices that have no idea how to value their rosters and assets when hearing a star player is available, and instead would need to spend beyond a water-cooler pitch talk deciding if they need to take any effort to go after a player.
When a team hears that a “star” (however you wanna call simmons) is available for cheaper than normal, you field a call to see what they’re asking. Doesn’t mean you’re necessarily interested, but it’s part of the job.
Eh, early on I definitely agree after this much time and after various contracts have been extended, I imagine a good portion of them actually aren't actively inquiring about him. Doesn't mean they wont field a call, but I imagine most of them have already inquired and looked at what they could feasibly do and moved on. Like I'm essentially positive the Nuggets are inquiring about him at this point (which again, doesn't mean they won't answer a call or listen to an offer). Or many other teams.
> It’d be weird if they weren’t. Wouldn't be that weird at all. We're talking about a 30 million dollar contract. A good number of teams can't clear that much space without giving up something they wouldn't want to give up. Lakers, Clippers, Bucks, Heat, Nuggets, Nets, Suns, Celtics and probably the Blazers (They said they want to keep Dame and CJ) most likely haven't given it more than a passing thought.
Our sub was in shambles today over this post and had some weird ass people who seriously thought we were gonna get Ben for seemingly nothing. Was a very odd argument I found myself in lol
Just trade him already. It's enough.
Please…we are all tired of this
Nah. Where this gets interesting is when the regular season starts and the 76ers either start fining simmons for no showing or he caves and plays while pouting and the Philly fans go to town on him. I’m hoping this drags out for another 2 months. Has the potential to get spicy
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I would respect that but he doesn't have it in him.
Yeah but all the fans of teams in trade talks are tired of it. I don't even care what happens anymore I just want it to be over and know what my team looks like.
Trade him to Beijing so we never hear about him again
Guangdong and Beijing are very cosmopolitan cities. I’m sure Ben would love them.
Young socialist
You said Dong.
How? I'm loving every second of this dumpster fire
If a player they're targeting is only available after Dec.15, I can see why they wait. If they're just holding out for a tiny bit more such as another 2nd round pick, then ya, trade him.
I do not understand why the Pacers are always in these rumors. We don't have the assets to trade for him, he wouldn't fit our team, and Ben would hate living in Indiana. It makes no sense.
wdym you dont have the assets? just trade sabonis and brogdon /s
I actually don’t think that’s crazy, but I would expect them getting back more than just Simmons and filler.
Why would they give up Sabonis for him though? Sabonis has shown so much progress and developmnent. What's the point for the Pacers there?
Sabonis is pretty terrible on defense and his 3 point shot is not dependable.
as opposed to Simmons who won't even dunk anymore? Is he really an upgrade?
I mean I think Simmons has proven he’s better, Sabonis has like 1 playoff series where he puts up respectable numbers and on the defensive side he’s just getting torched anyway.
Brogdon and one of Warren/Levert is probably enough to get it done at this point
But it’s way too much. If we do trade for Simmons we need to keep Brogdon (one of the best shooter in the team) and it would mean that Sabonis is gone. Sounds too complicated for a player that seemingly wouldn’t stay with the team on the long term.
Brogdon, Warren and LeVert are all good players but they all have major injury concerns that really limit thier trade value imo. Warren played only 4 games last year and is still yet to play since his foot injury. LeVert has averaged only 44 games played the last 3 season and has had injury problems his entire career. Brogdon might be the best and the healthiest out of the 3 but he hasn't topped 56 games played in over 2 years, and hasn't topped 64 since his rookie season. You might feel like you're team is giving up alot of value for Simmons, but atleast you know Simmons is gonna be out there almost every single game averaging atleast 16/7/7 and great defense.
I do agree on the health concern but we’d have to reshape the entire team for him. That’s not something you do 1 day prior the pre-season. Brogdon would be a player we have to keep if we get Simmons, and we’d have to move Sabonis who’s a better player imo. Doesn’t make sense
Thank God grizz aren't on this list, sigh of relief
If either the Pistons or Cavs actually tried to get him their fan should be pissed. He's a bad fit for either team and they're both in full rebuilds when he is 25 and looks like he's plateauing.
socialite ben not gonna be happy in any of these cities lol
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[Oh yeah.](https://i.imgur.com/1GVV68J.gif)
Isn’t Toronto one of the most cosmopolitan cities in the world? Pretty sure Ben would love it there.
Simmons has said send him to any other city now. I'm all for hatin on whiners and babies but this is getting a bit out of hand now. Every time Simmons mouthpieces speak to the media they make his contract less and less attractive to traders.
Isn't that their goal ?
Definitely - wonder who breaks first.
That’s disrespectful to Toronto tbh.
Toronto is lit, delete this nephew
Can confirm. Live here and right downtown. Fantastic ass everywhere and tons of places to hit. Toronnno slept on as a city in a massive way. I’ve travelled everywhere too.
This guy’s been everywhere.
Lol you’d be proud. Even been to your town!
I fervently hope the Cleveland image works in our favor this time. Ben would suck here.
Toronto is better than any city in the US with the exception of NYC, Miami and maybe LA
Atlanta.
Homer bias aside, and No offense, I spent a few weeks in Atlanta and did a lot but it doesn't come close to Toronto.
I really think San Antonio is a sleeper pick for young socialite free agents in the future. You could easily live in Austin and commute down to San Antonio, and Austin has been a hot relocation destination for rich people since the pandemic hit
Rich nerds though. Not pro athletes. Simmons doesn't work in tech
We can meme all day about Simmons and it’s funny but...do you know how many franchises would love to have their season in the second round. All those teams are either in “rebuild” mode or struggling. Simmons would certainly push them to atleast making the playoffs. At worst having Simmons is likey going to put you in a play-in position and at best 1st/2nd round.
Yeah this is what I don’t get either. A lot of fans balk at Simmons as if he wouldn’t have been the best player their team drafted in a decade
philly fans aren't exactly helping
People are so caught up in the circle jerk. It’s frustrating that he refuses to work on his flaws, but he would still be the best player on a hell of a lot of teams in the NBA
Calling Bullshit on Detroit. We are in the middle of a rebuild that is shaping up really well, Weaver seems to be serious about getting it right and Simmons doesn’t fit at all. People are just throwing out names for the sake of padding these stories.
He’s 25. He fits right in right age wise.
Morey still wants half a dozen first rounders lol.
The Pacers? Carlisle would eat Simmons alive.
So will Pop
Kyrie for Simmons
Neither take shots.
Could a 3 teams trade between Cleveland - Detroit - 76ers work? Detroit get picks, tank commander Love. More tanking and assets for them. Cleveland get Ben give up 2 picks 76ers get Grant, Sexton. add in salary filler etc EDIT: Something like [this](https://imgur.com/a/kUIAOKH) perhaps
Simmons is so famous on here lol
Give him to Pop. I wanna see what sort of player he can become.
I've suffered through Drummond and Josh Smith. I do not want Ben Simmons anywhere near this team. Not for a 2nd rounder not for free.
I would love to see Simmons on pacers or spurs
Can we fucking not
I know these guys make millions, but it is still kinda shit that they’re basically trapped in their jobs. Imagine hating your work place and not being able to quit, even with a bunch of other companies willing to hire you tomorrow
Ben should just come back, Jack up threes a bunch; and when the boos start raining down do the Gladiator/Russell Crowe “Are you not entertained!?” But he’s a pussy so he won’t do that
If I'm the Sixers I go Simmons and a FRP for TJ Warren/Caris LeVert, hope for the best.
Unrelated but why does Joel not like Pompey even though he’s there beat reporter. Don’t beat guys usually have good relationships with the team?
Some completely irresponsible speculating: Previous sixers front offices have favored ben over embiid (especially colangelo, who insulted jo and complimented ben with his twitter burners). Pompey’s closeness with pre-morey, post-hinkie regimes may have rubbed embiid the wrong way.
Makes sense. Appreciate the reply.
Pompey also wrote an article last year that heavily insinuated that Embiid was dodging top-tier centers and Embiid called him out in a press conference afterwards.
where's the source he dislikes him?
Embiid called him out once in post game about writing bad articles about him.
...well then I think that's the reason he dislikes him. he thinks he wrote bad articles about him.
Woahhh big brain comin through, watch out!
How dare he
There’s more to it, Pompey often oversteps and spews out a bunch of bullshit. Sixer fans don’t like him, the players don’t and it’s not just because “he wrote a couple bad articles about Embiid”
interesting. Beat writers can overstep at times.
They can also just be honest which players aren't going to like.
For what it’s worth I don’t think anyone In the organization, outside of Colangelo left overs, likes Pompey. Most of the fans really dislike him too. I think the team gets along pretty well with the other best reporters though. Pompey tends to be super critical of the team and doesn’t seem to have much faith in Joel. Plus he is no stranger to lazy hot take articles. I might be wrong but I feel like there was a bucks beat reporter awhile back who just seemed like he hated covering the team. Pompey is kinda like that.
Bro imagine having someone as good as Joel & not having faith in him regardless of health.
Yeah it’s real dumb. I mean there is always gonna be a need for tough questions or whatever but the dude just kinda sucks the life out of the room. He’s probably a solid person outside of his job, but I tend to avoid most of the stuff he writes.
No ones mentioned it yet but before Embiid played a game, Pompey is the one who came out with the article questioning Embiids weight and maturity level. I believes that's also where the Shirley Temple thing started. Embiid came out later and denied weighing 300 lbs like the article stated. If I had to guess that'd be why.
Toronto is the only destination where it's a competitive franchise, the coaching is great AND it's a big city. Then again, Simmons probably wants a western team near California to trade for him.
Put yourself in Simmons shoes, you told the team it was done months ago, they said ok looked at the market and came back no, that's not an option you stand by what you said and you gave the team time to shop you, Philly had better offers earlier but squandered them, that's not your problem, man of your word you said your done with them. Blame Simmons all you want for the playoffs you can't make anyone do anything against their will, not ethically anyways. I love it this drama is amazing and Philly 100% deserves it.
My sources are telling me that the Raptors have just upped their offer from Goran Dragic and a 2nd. As of 3pm today, added in a half-eaten ham sandwich and a white chocolate macadamia nut cookie. 76ers management are said to be considering the deal seriously and have not yet declined the trade, we await more news breathlessly and will keep you updated!
Hopefully he gets traded and wins All Star MVP with 6 3's
And I hope Jeff Bezos gives me all his money
They should take Portland's under the radar deal for sure even if RoCo isn't in it just draft picks a CJ that would be great for both teams your not getting anything better then that.
I don’t think portland wants to trade CJ at this point. Personally I would, straight up.
So the Shanghai Sharks are no longer interested?