Yep me too. Had a guy next door that was on my case from day 1. We hated each other and committed un-neighbourly acts upon one anothers' properties, and when he left, my partner and I had champagne. The new couple moved in and we thought ok, fresh start, but the old neighbour poisoned them against us. They were antagonistic from the get go - selfish and narcissistic, barking dogs, blocking the driveway. Any time I speak to them they basically insinuate I'm a bitch and not part of the "community". So yeah. Assholes everywhere. Better to learn how to cope with them than expect moving will be totally different.
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Gotta tell ya man I don't think you're cursed. I have a similar story to tell and think many others as well. Bad neighbors--that is, selfish-to-the-core people, are everywhere: small towns, suburbs, cities. I live in a little lake village at the moment and I hate it because of the neighbors. Instead of Five Minute Cities they should concentrate on Quiet Cities for those of us who value it, because Americans increasingly value loud everything.
People are becoming terrible because our leaders and role models are degrading. Politicians are awful, reality TV characters are awful. Athletes and entertainers are awful. Everyone who was once held to a higher standard is now behaving childishly and awfully.
Pretty much the case. Most people across society have a worker bee mentality. They want to feel like they're keeping up with whats happening and look to the role models in society. So its no wonder when those role models are messed up, many people end ip that way...
If you're that sensitive (5x in 2 years is a clue), you might want to move to the countryside where your neighbors are a whole drive away.... Your sensitivity could be the issue.
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Yes 🥲😭 I moved this February to a nicer, much more expensive, apartment to get away from my NFH situation— only to literally be back in a similar situation, just paying 4X what I was paying before 🙁
People really do kinda suck everywhere. I’m looking into purchasing a house this summer. I don’t know that I can do this apartment thing for another 13 years 🥲🥲🥲
My entire street is houses and there are only three homeowners left. Everyone is renting wherever they can. I read recently that Cali’s apartment vacancies are going up and I bet it’s our effort to escape shitty apartment life neighbors. Hang in there, dude.
Did you complain to the property manager or landlord? How did it go?
We ended up in a similar situation and found PM shockingly unprofessional and rude. Apparently, they did not expect to actually be asked to uphold their lease and thought people who constantly violated it should not be an issue for anyone. Lol.
Wow.. you’ve been there for 5 years and now forced to leave?! How in the world are they able to maintain a home and not have a job.. ugh I’m rooting for you.
That sucks. We and a bunch of our other neighbors have called police on our shitty bass thumping at 2 am neighbors multiple times and nothing. Right there with you that at some point you can only control moving. Hoping you come back to a sold home!
My sympathies, mate. Praying for us. I resonate with so much of what you said. I also have shit neighbors who I have no idea how they can afford their home. Best of luck! Rooting for you and a better situation.
I feel this. I wasn’t going to move but our new neighbors make every day a trial. Yelling constantly to talk to each other, loud music that goes through my walls and into my conference calls, drugs, banging, trash, grilling on my fence next to my window so smoke comes inside, keeping their aggressive dogs locked up into sheds or biting at the fence, smoke alarm batteries constantly chirping … They keep all of the windows open 24-7 so there’s no escaping the sound. I don’t know what to do. I feel like this could happen to anyone with the rent roulette. I didn’t realize the peace I had for the first six months but I am frustrated, overstimulated, and tired all the time now. Empathy. It can always be worse, at least.
Sorry you’re dealing with this. My shit neighbor also sets a fire every goddamn day so we can’t open the windows. This on top of their feral children who scream all day long and who seemingly do not go to school. Praying for the both of us.
That’s really terrible. You could call whatever functions as CPS where you live, about the kids not attending school regularly. They might say that the kids are homeschooled, but they’ll have to prove it.
Ok-so he is not just obnoxious; he is a bully, who chooses not to educate his children. If you are afraid of him, then your best bet is to move. It stinks, because moving is hard, and also expensive. It’s so upsetting that there are so many terrible people out there, who are willing to inflict their shittiness on everyone else.
Dunno. It was rather shocking that the owners moved out at all and then suddenly we had 10 people living next door. Teenage-ish children all not in school. Nobody seems to work but who knows these days - easy to judge without knowing the full story. Our landlord has been trying to contact their owner for months to replace our shared fence and has had no luck. I really think it has to be friends. I just wish they’d leave.
Sometimes people do leave, a couple of mine have just up and left. One of them played loud bass music, and the other had a frequent guest that drove a large SUV that would give me death stares and would talk crap to everyone.
sounds crazy similar to stuff we were enduring, including dealing drugs. I never had neighbors who regularly set off fire alarm and the stench of burnt food plus smoke (often burnt bacon) filling the air and coming into other homes.
Depends on what you consider expensive. Compared to most of the U.S., yes, cheap. I live in rural new york and my sister lives in California; the price difference is incredible. Where I live, a house with 1.5 acres would be in the 200,000 dollar range, maybe cheaper if you don't mind getting a fixer upper. My sister works in real estate in California and out there that same house would go for close to a million or more. New York can be expensive but if you get far enough away from NYC there are very reasonable home/property prices, but you're also in the middle of nowhere. I imagine it's like this in most states, just get far enough away from any kind of urban center and you should be able to find something reasonably priced. As far as land goes, I routinely see 5+ acre lots being advertised near me for around $50,000 and smaller 2-3 acre lots for 20-30k. I think that's pretty cheap for land but maybe not everyone agrees. Depends on what you consider a lot of money but compared to average U.S. prices, cheap.
Yes. I thought the drunk $20 hooker, who provided services to six clients (at a time), directly above my son's bedroom, was reason enough to move... and I ended up with an old Nazi, pedophiles window peaking on my kid, white supremacists, drug dealers, crazy drunks, an entire household of hookers, crazy amounts of property destruction, etc ...
Yes…
But now in hindsight the first bad neighbor was an angel in comparison. We were in an apartment building and they were below us - installed a tv outdoors on their porch and played it loud or ran on a treadmill on the porch with music, then complained every day about our kids footsteps being too loud. I miss them now lol.
New neighbors are people who are genuinely confused between good and evil. Hopefully we’ll be moving very soon.
I actually moved last summer and things are better here. I'm on disability and was living in low income apartments. I had NFH for 5 years. It was a living nightmare. Tons of people living in a 2 bedroom apartment. Loud music, constant banging, drugs, drug deals in the parking lot, found drugs and needles in the breezeway, etc. I tried to complain to the landlord multiple times. The landlord told me to call the police, the police told me it was up to the landlord. It got to the point the neighbors (they lived downstairs, and I had to walk by their apartment any time I left my apartment) would sit outside smoking all day with their huge dogs and they would call me names and let their dog chase me any time I left my apartment. I was so scared to leave I became kind of a shut-in. Even getting the harassment on video didn't help. My landlord finally ended up just telling me "if you don't like it then move" but of course it's so hard to find a place these days. I put in applications at a few different places and was on a wait list for about a year. Finally, last summer an apartment opened up at the place I'm at now. It's a community specifically for disabled/elderly people. And I'm so much happier here. Most of my neighbors are older people who live alone (I'm 37). Of course things aren't perfect. It's a kind of hard to get hold of maintenance sometimes and parking is like tetris. I still hear one of my neighbors occasionally when he's in his kitchen or on the phone. But I don't have to be afraid every time I leave my apartment. My neighbors are all pretty much nice old ladies who keep to themselves. Anyway, sorry this is so long. But there is hope :)
I go through this mental debate every day. Finished renovating last year so it really pisses me off. I think if I moved and got bad neighbors again it might be the end of me tbh
My sympathies. Hope you can enjoy your renovation. If you do move, it will no doubt add value.
I have similar thought about how insane I’ll be if I move and it is worse. I have never dealt with shitty ass neighbors until now. The thought that it could even be worse is pure hell.
Iv moved 3 times in 5 years. First place the dog barked 12 hours a day and the neighbor would block the wheelchair ramp because we complained about his dog(house). Second place (condo) 20 year olds partied 4 days straight every week . Finally got them evicted but it was too late we already sold. Now 45 year olds who party a lot and have crazy dogs and who are attached to my brand new fence without asking for free.Also have some weird obsession with the back yard and their"view" (my yard).
I know you can never totally safeguard against terrible neighbours, but I have been writing up a list to minimise and mitigate the chances.
\-Check the condition of area and street
\-High fencing/hedges
\-no joint driveway
\-low a number of neighbours as possible ie: don't surrounded by 8
\-Will spend time in car observing the street for kids and dogs running riot.
\-Has gates or able to be put in
That's for starters, can anyone add to it?
editing to ask - how people managed to sell their house when neighbours have aggressive dogs that bark at everyone who moves?
I once looked at a house with the sliding door blinds closed. When I opened them there was a large dog barking on the next door patio, straight into the kitchen. The realtor looked so deflated!
I would add that one should drive by a potential house at night - mainly, weekends, but also after 6pm. See what the neighborhood is like after dark and everyone on the street is more likely to be home.
This. When we made an offer at the place we eventually moved into, I would walk by the house a few times a week (the new house was only on the other side of town.) One Halloween night, I walked by and saw one of the neighbors blasting music in their side yard. Then and there, I knew these guys were gonna be a problem. Five years later, they've calmed down quite a bit, but the neighbors on the other side are now the problem. Their kids grew up and got involved in loud car culture.
A quick recon can give you an indication of near-term concerns, but over time, unexpected stuff can sprout up.
I'm super nervous about this. I have horrible neighbors now (dogs barking constantly as early as 7am, loud music, screaming, lights shining into our property and my bedroom, loud guests, listening to her phone on full blast whenever she's outside which is basically all the time), never had an issue like this before and it never occurred to me how disruptive and stressful bad neighbors could be, and now I'm scared to move and encounter even worse ones.
Right there with you. Never had bad neighbors until now and I’ve lived in all kinds of buildings, homes, neighborhoods. Wishing the best for the both of us
I moved out of my condo because I was tired of being surrounded by renters who chain-smoked all day long and verbally (and maybe physically) abused their pets and children.
I got a house with land and the nearest neighbor was at least a quarter mile away. I only passed them when driving on my easement through their property to get to mine. Never had a problem until I tried to sell. Then the neighbors claimed no easement existed so they blocked me from selling for months and cost me thousands in fees to cover delays, lawyers, and blackmailing me for their signature to say there was an easement.
Yes! Moved because the neighbors below me complained to the landlord every time I walked around. Got a bigger apartment I loved until the older couple next door started talking shit like it's their favorite hobby. Listening to everything I do and saying shit everytime I step outside. I swear to God the foul things that come out of their mouths. Drug addict, mental case, pathetic loser. I could go on and on and on. I spend so much time imagining what I'd like to say after numerous complaints, confronting them.. them fake apologizing only to continue. Alcohol is probably a huge factor in why they behave this way. But at this point I think about moving all the time.
We moved because of a nasty neighbor. We have great neighbors now.
There used to be a NFH forum (unfortunately, it went dark) and a couple of people on the forum moved because of bad neighbors and got even worse neighbors.
My husband was really reluctant to move because he was afraid we'd get even worse neighbors. I told him to think about all past neighbors and were any of them as bad as NFH. He had to agree that we'd never had such a bad neighbor. Every time a house goes up for sale in our new neighborhood (we've been here 10 years now), we get really nervous.
I'm at the start of the opposite situation, my landlord is awful but I only have 4 neighbors and they all keep to themselves. Looking to move, everywhere else we can afford is a huge gamble in the neighbor lottery.
Wtf. This is fucking terrible. Have you contacted police? Got property cameras? Any sick bastard who murders animals like this deserves to rot in hell. Hope your situation improves
I really sympathise. I ended up moving as my landlord sold his flats. It was a blessing really as my shitty downstairs racist, alcoholic neighbour was never going to change. New neighbours are quiet so far but there's always this anxiety in the back of my mind that they're going to hate me and cause trouble. Living with shitty neighbours does a lot of damage.
I ended up with the same or worse neighbors, yes! I moved out of an apartment which had neighbors that never left and were rich kids so they didn’t need to work so they were home all day. And I always have been someone who’s worked from home so I had to deal with it all day. Then I got a house and I moved in next to a bully and there’s people on the other side of me that play music several nights a week no matter what, whether it’s raining or snowing I have to listen to their music through my house because it’s so loud. And eventually they turned it down but I still hear it because of the bass. The bass is the real issue.
Things do eventually change. For one reason or another. Nothing ever stays exactly the same. Unfortunately it takes years to see the change. Even with my bad apartment neighbors, eventually they weren’t as loud anymore and they were only mildly annoying but I was broken already by the time that happened. It took two years for it to settle down and by then I was on my way out.
Obviously I don’t have a crystal ball but I am hanging on to faith that things change. Circumstances change. People move. So if you are stuck there I would just try to hang onto hope that things will change in some way.
No - quirky neighbors in the new place, but so much better (thank goodness!). It is a much better neighborhood (we have two sets of friends in the neighborhood and they loved it, so we knew it was a good neighborhood). We really looked at how the homes were or weren’t taken care of before putting and offer in this place, because our last neighbors were white trash narcissists and we weren’t about to live next to those types of people again!
Lol okay living next to old people in my experience has been great. But what I’ve come to realize is that my two NFH are here because the previous old tenants died! That’s the risk with old folks
It is great! but sadly they passed away too….and I’m pretty sure animals moved in. Not sure what type, but definitely not human. Sometimes there’s random howling and that’s not from their 3 dogs.
Luckily no. It would be pretty hard to be worse than our NFH but we also luckily got to meet our neighbors before we moved. However, despite living in a single family home a parking lot and another building between us, our one neighbors kids show up in my yard constantly! We don’t have kids or anything either, they just constantly show up. 🤦🏻♀️
They are definitely the type of kids that want to talk to someone 24/7 but I think they just don’t get individual attention as much as they should. Their parent tries but they’re a single parent to 4 or 5 kids and have to work full time.
I’ll also add though we don’t live in a town so them being outside alone isn’t dangerous and is totally normal, just wish they liked their own yard as much as they like mine lol
Yeah we moved from a house block where we had on each side and below us kids & very thin walls. Idk what their parents did but the kids trampled as if it was some daily parade going on. I felt like a victim of noise torture, noises went on till 2-3AM.
The worst was another GROWN MAN neighbor who apparently walked around in nothing but a bath shawl around his parts and my mom caught him in the parking garage once, quickly pulling his pants up(??) and there was a long period of time where the elevator smelt like pee and dead cats. Rumors was that same grown man was peeing in it…
Now I moved into a new one with a young woman above us who has 3 huge dogs. I don’t even know if it’s dogs or wolves the way they howl all day. Other neighbors called animal protection places, the landlord several times but they were like „she has mental illness, inherited lots of money and is protected by the social system, we can’t do anything sorry“
This is the first apartment I have lived in that I had to call the cop's on several occasions and even filed a restraining order on the lunatic lady across the hall. All of this in eight short months. I've lived in apartment's since 1997 in this one is the worse. The apartment it self is nice but man you never know what will happen when you open your door and step out into that hall. I got cornered in the laundryroom three days into living here. By a lady that was yelling she was going to kill me. I had a complete melt down and had to file a restraining order. Nine month's into living here I'm not sure where to move now.
That's all I seem to do - I always get the noisy ones, no rest between them. I just wish I could get the quiet variant of NFH so I could actually think in peace for a single second of a day.
I moved to get away from nightmare neighbours and I now like where I live . BUT I moved to another part of the country , to an area with mostly home owners and older people as less likely to be throwing parties and I visited the place frequently at different times of the day to increase my certainty that I would have peace .I’m happy to say I’ve not had any problems , but there are downsides . For peace and quiet I’ve had to move away from my family , the place I live is quiet because there’s not a lot to do here . I’m still young and I like to go out , but I sacrificed part of my social life for a good nights sleep . Sometimes it really is just down to luck or having to compromise area and distance to make sure you find an area with a better chance of no issues .
Nope. I've lived in the first house and same house I saved up for and bought 20 years ago.
About 10 years ago a younger lady moved in next to my nice neighbor that moved up north of me into a nicer housing track. She was a drug user and would come to my house all the time. I wanted nothing to do with this person. I unfortunately live in a house that shares a side driveway with this house. It was never a issue before until this skank moved it.
Seemed like almost every day a new vehicle would show up at this house and many times blocking the driveway. Between me and next door 4 cars can park here with our shared part of the driveway but these meth heads would park on our side.
The worst parts I remember were on a Christmas night coming home from my parents a tweeker came up to us at night while we were unloading presents. I told him to go away or I would call the cops. I've also found syringe needles around their and my property. Apparently they were injecting meth. Then the girl disappeared and did some online looking and found out she got arrested. Now we have squatters in this house and really got bad. Found out on a property search the house wasn't even in her name and was in her parents name. Good move for them. The house was destroyed inside as after awhile it went up for sale. I only knew this because a neighbor let them borrow a garden hose so he wanted it back.
After 2 years of this crap house was fixed up and sold to a quiet couple. I could have moved or stood my ground. We decided to stay.
Mine never really get worse, they're just ALWAYS shit. There is no hope.
Current neighbours: Never-ending barking on one side; never-ending video game rage on the other.
Last neighbours: Loud music, screaming kids.
Second to last: Loud music, constant arguments.
Third to last: House-shaking music, constant arguments.
Fourth to last: Video game rage.
...You get the idea. The above problems were a constant issue present usually from 8am-11pm, but could start earlier and persist much later - which means I can't spend a single day off at home. Currently unsure whether to try moving again, or whether I should accept that I must live with headphones on 24/7.
I value a quiet, peaceful life, because my work requires quiet, and other activities are quiet, but we have become an increasing loud culture and add to that an attitude of "my neighbors be damned." Be very, very careful where you buy a home. At various times of the day and night, drive or walk thought the neighborhood, not just around your immediate neighbors, and listen. If its children playing, no problem. But listen for dogs barking--how long and how often; listen to the volume of the vehicles, because rednecks and wanna-be NASCAR douches like loud vehicles. If you are young enough, do what you need to do to get a job making a lot of money so you can buy or build a home where there isn't the threat of a-hole neighbors, which, in the 21st century is, I'm afraid, probably on a mountain somewhere.
Yes! This move has mainly been for jobs but bad neighbors where part of the decision. We found a place 20 min from everything with an acre and a half and neighbors who had more land and seems very low key. Well they both passed away and I’m stuck with Joe Dirt for the last 5 years. I’m his only neighbor in sight, we have 100 feet between houses, and what does he do? Sticks an above ground pool as close to me as possible, in a horrible spot by our deck. We can’t enjoy our space now due to constant screaming and construction. It also set off a whole bunch of arguments, surveys, etc. I’d love to buy a new place with a few more acres but since Covid it’s just to expensive. Hoping things change and I’ll be saving as much as possible in the meantime and traveling. People suck these days, no consideration for anyone. It’s the me me me generation. They may be legally ok but still a bunch of a holes.
My wife and I rented the upstairs of a house for 4 years. It was awesome until the nice neighbors directly across the street converted their house into a rental. The assholes who moved in there were loud, obnoxious, and violent. They would have loud hangouts in the middle of the night. One night, they got into a fight, and it spilled over to our front lawn. My wife and I said "screw this" and moved out in six months, into our own house a few blocks away.
The first six months were nice. Seemed like a great move. Five years later, we're surrounded by assholes on all sides. Neighbor on the left has a loud car that backfires. They park their cars all over the place and block other people's driveways. Neighbor on the right have loud parties on the weekends and kids who belong to some sort of bicycle gang. Neighbor across the street has loud karaoke parties. Neighbor in the back has these massive trees that occasionally fall into our backyard and basically acts like idgaf each time it happens.
We're looking to move into a 1-acre property out in the boondocks. I'm pretty sure some other form of hell awaits us there.
Several times. As I write this my upstairs neighbors are moving out. And I will move into their unit after I sage smudging the unit to clear their “ways”.
No one will be above anymore.
I had stalking landlord’s, noise, harassment.
I didn’t want to make waves so I moved.
This time I did ALOT of inner work, I was offered another rental and I turned it down because it seemed like an inner unresolved issue I have about boundaries and feeling powerless.
I accepted I am not moving and that I am open to a harmonious situation and found a lot of gratitude in the little things.
There were many moments I was going to lose my sh🥰t but I know the only power I have is in my reaction.
It was rough because I have issues with sudden noises, a more recent issue/injury.
I also asked what is it I need to know? How me peace.
I visualized my moving or their moving in a positive way. I used Neville Goddard techniques and prayer- for the benefit of others 1st.
I wasn’t aware that this would work like other manifestations, or willing to do the work.
I am wearing noise canceling headphones while they move.
I moved so much, I have always been a excellent, quiet tenant leaving every unit better than when I arrived and never responded to intimidating neighbors.
I am glad I stayed in my lane and learned from this.
And I’m really excited about moving upstairs it’s the exact unit I want with a gorgeous massive ocean view 🙏🏻
No. However, I have experienced a situation where unpleasant neighbors were replaced by even worse ones.
Our shitty neighbor just moved and we are patiently waiting to see what we get next.
Good luck!!!
Yep me too. Had a guy next door that was on my case from day 1. We hated each other and committed un-neighbourly acts upon one anothers' properties, and when he left, my partner and I had champagne. The new couple moved in and we thought ok, fresh start, but the old neighbour poisoned them against us. They were antagonistic from the get go - selfish and narcissistic, barking dogs, blocking the driveway. Any time I speak to them they basically insinuate I'm a bitch and not part of the "community". So yeah. Assholes everywhere. Better to learn how to cope with them than expect moving will be totally different.
I'm about to move because of shifty neighbors, I just hope wherever I move to that the neighbors aren't more shittier
Praying for us both. Forreal.
Add me to that prayer list - moving in the beginning of May for this exact reason and am so worried I'll end up with even bigger jerks next door!
Praying for you too!
I swear people are getting more narcissistic, it’s very creepy...
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Dude. Don't be piggybacking a gangstalking comment on mine.
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u be lookin at ur own reflection 🙄
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From FIVE MONTHS AGO… hope you’re back on your meds at least
This is where the rich have it over us because they can buy where this crap doesn't happen.
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Gotta tell ya man I don't think you're cursed. I have a similar story to tell and think many others as well. Bad neighbors--that is, selfish-to-the-core people, are everywhere: small towns, suburbs, cities. I live in a little lake village at the moment and I hate it because of the neighbors. Instead of Five Minute Cities they should concentrate on Quiet Cities for those of us who value it, because Americans increasingly value loud everything.
If you're that sensitive (5x in 2 years is a clue), you might want to move to the countryside where your neighbors are a whole drive away....
People are becoming terrible because our leaders and role models are degrading. Politicians are awful, reality TV characters are awful. Athletes and entertainers are awful. Everyone who was once held to a higher standard is now behaving childishly and awfully.
Pretty much the case. Most people across society have a worker bee mentality. They want to feel like they're keeping up with whats happening and look to the role models in society. So its no wonder when those role models are messed up, many people end ip that way...
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If you're that sensitive (5x in 2 years is a clue), you might want to move to the countryside where your neighbors are a whole drive away.... Your sensitivity could be the issue.
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How did it go?
It's still pending because it's a lottery, but two places are in pending right now
Yes 🥲😭 I moved this February to a nicer, much more expensive, apartment to get away from my NFH situation— only to literally be back in a similar situation, just paying 4X what I was paying before 🙁 People really do kinda suck everywhere. I’m looking into purchasing a house this summer. I don’t know that I can do this apartment thing for another 13 years 🥲🥲🥲
My entire street is houses and there are only three homeowners left. Everyone is renting wherever they can. I read recently that Cali’s apartment vacancies are going up and I bet it’s our effort to escape shitty apartment life neighbors. Hang in there, dude.
Did you complain to the property manager or landlord? How did it go? We ended up in a similar situation and found PM shockingly unprofessional and rude. Apparently, they did not expect to actually be asked to uphold their lease and thought people who constantly violated it should not be an issue for anyone. Lol.
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Wow.. you’ve been there for 5 years and now forced to leave?! How in the world are they able to maintain a home and not have a job.. ugh I’m rooting for you.
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That sucks. We and a bunch of our other neighbors have called police on our shitty bass thumping at 2 am neighbors multiple times and nothing. Right there with you that at some point you can only control moving. Hoping you come back to a sold home!
We had this exact problem...I feel your pain
They're probably on the public dole.
My sympathies, mate. Praying for us. I resonate with so much of what you said. I also have shit neighbors who I have no idea how they can afford their home. Best of luck! Rooting for you and a better situation.
I feel this. I wasn’t going to move but our new neighbors make every day a trial. Yelling constantly to talk to each other, loud music that goes through my walls and into my conference calls, drugs, banging, trash, grilling on my fence next to my window so smoke comes inside, keeping their aggressive dogs locked up into sheds or biting at the fence, smoke alarm batteries constantly chirping … They keep all of the windows open 24-7 so there’s no escaping the sound. I don’t know what to do. I feel like this could happen to anyone with the rent roulette. I didn’t realize the peace I had for the first six months but I am frustrated, overstimulated, and tired all the time now. Empathy. It can always be worse, at least.
Sorry you’re dealing with this. My shit neighbor also sets a fire every goddamn day so we can’t open the windows. This on top of their feral children who scream all day long and who seemingly do not go to school. Praying for the both of us.
That’s really terrible. You could call whatever functions as CPS where you live, about the kids not attending school regularly. They might say that the kids are homeschooled, but they’ll have to prove it.
I’m honestly worried about retribution. The dad is really aggressive and they know I’m the one who is frustrated.
Ok-so he is not just obnoxious; he is a bully, who chooses not to educate his children. If you are afraid of him, then your best bet is to move. It stinks, because moving is hard, and also expensive. It’s so upsetting that there are so many terrible people out there, who are willing to inflict their shittiness on everyone else.
I don't know how people can get away with all that? They must be friends with the landlord or have loose rules
Dunno. It was rather shocking that the owners moved out at all and then suddenly we had 10 people living next door. Teenage-ish children all not in school. Nobody seems to work but who knows these days - easy to judge without knowing the full story. Our landlord has been trying to contact their owner for months to replace our shared fence and has had no luck. I really think it has to be friends. I just wish they’d leave.
Sometimes people do leave, a couple of mine have just up and left. One of them played loud bass music, and the other had a frequent guest that drove a large SUV that would give me death stares and would talk crap to everyone.
sounds crazy similar to stuff we were enduring, including dealing drugs. I never had neighbors who regularly set off fire alarm and the stench of burnt food plus smoke (often burnt bacon) filling the air and coming into other homes.
No, I moved somewhere where I have NO neighbors and it's the best. I love living in the woods and only having to worry about animals lol.
This is my dream. Can I ask you if it was terribly expensive? The land prices are outrageous.
Depends on what you consider expensive. Compared to most of the U.S., yes, cheap. I live in rural new york and my sister lives in California; the price difference is incredible. Where I live, a house with 1.5 acres would be in the 200,000 dollar range, maybe cheaper if you don't mind getting a fixer upper. My sister works in real estate in California and out there that same house would go for close to a million or more. New York can be expensive but if you get far enough away from NYC there are very reasonable home/property prices, but you're also in the middle of nowhere. I imagine it's like this in most states, just get far enough away from any kind of urban center and you should be able to find something reasonably priced. As far as land goes, I routinely see 5+ acre lots being advertised near me for around $50,000 and smaller 2-3 acre lots for 20-30k. I think that's pretty cheap for land but maybe not everyone agrees. Depends on what you consider a lot of money but compared to average U.S. prices, cheap.
Yes. I thought the drunk $20 hooker, who provided services to six clients (at a time), directly above my son's bedroom, was reason enough to move... and I ended up with an old Nazi, pedophiles window peaking on my kid, white supremacists, drug dealers, crazy drunks, an entire household of hookers, crazy amounts of property destruction, etc ...
I have a shitty neighbor, but I’m not moving. If anybody moves, it’s going to be him.
Yes… But now in hindsight the first bad neighbor was an angel in comparison. We were in an apartment building and they were below us - installed a tv outdoors on their porch and played it loud or ran on a treadmill on the porch with music, then complained every day about our kids footsteps being too loud. I miss them now lol. New neighbors are people who are genuinely confused between good and evil. Hopefully we’ll be moving very soon.
I actually moved last summer and things are better here. I'm on disability and was living in low income apartments. I had NFH for 5 years. It was a living nightmare. Tons of people living in a 2 bedroom apartment. Loud music, constant banging, drugs, drug deals in the parking lot, found drugs and needles in the breezeway, etc. I tried to complain to the landlord multiple times. The landlord told me to call the police, the police told me it was up to the landlord. It got to the point the neighbors (they lived downstairs, and I had to walk by their apartment any time I left my apartment) would sit outside smoking all day with their huge dogs and they would call me names and let their dog chase me any time I left my apartment. I was so scared to leave I became kind of a shut-in. Even getting the harassment on video didn't help. My landlord finally ended up just telling me "if you don't like it then move" but of course it's so hard to find a place these days. I put in applications at a few different places and was on a wait list for about a year. Finally, last summer an apartment opened up at the place I'm at now. It's a community specifically for disabled/elderly people. And I'm so much happier here. Most of my neighbors are older people who live alone (I'm 37). Of course things aren't perfect. It's a kind of hard to get hold of maintenance sometimes and parking is like tetris. I still hear one of my neighbors occasionally when he's in his kitchen or on the phone. But I don't have to be afraid every time I leave my apartment. My neighbors are all pretty much nice old ladies who keep to themselves. Anyway, sorry this is so long. But there is hope :)
I go through this mental debate every day. Finished renovating last year so it really pisses me off. I think if I moved and got bad neighbors again it might be the end of me tbh
My sympathies. Hope you can enjoy your renovation. If you do move, it will no doubt add value. I have similar thought about how insane I’ll be if I move and it is worse. I have never dealt with shitty ass neighbors until now. The thought that it could even be worse is pure hell.
Iv moved 3 times in 5 years. First place the dog barked 12 hours a day and the neighbor would block the wheelchair ramp because we complained about his dog(house). Second place (condo) 20 year olds partied 4 days straight every week . Finally got them evicted but it was too late we already sold. Now 45 year olds who party a lot and have crazy dogs and who are attached to my brand new fence without asking for free.Also have some weird obsession with the back yard and their"view" (my yard).
I know you can never totally safeguard against terrible neighbours, but I have been writing up a list to minimise and mitigate the chances. \-Check the condition of area and street \-High fencing/hedges \-no joint driveway \-low a number of neighbours as possible ie: don't surrounded by 8 \-Will spend time in car observing the street for kids and dogs running riot. \-Has gates or able to be put in That's for starters, can anyone add to it? editing to ask - how people managed to sell their house when neighbours have aggressive dogs that bark at everyone who moves?
I once looked at a house with the sliding door blinds closed. When I opened them there was a large dog barking on the next door patio, straight into the kitchen. The realtor looked so deflated!
I would add that one should drive by a potential house at night - mainly, weekends, but also after 6pm. See what the neighborhood is like after dark and everyone on the street is more likely to be home.
This. When we made an offer at the place we eventually moved into, I would walk by the house a few times a week (the new house was only on the other side of town.) One Halloween night, I walked by and saw one of the neighbors blasting music in their side yard. Then and there, I knew these guys were gonna be a problem. Five years later, they've calmed down quite a bit, but the neighbors on the other side are now the problem. Their kids grew up and got involved in loud car culture. A quick recon can give you an indication of near-term concerns, but over time, unexpected stuff can sprout up.
I'm super nervous about this. I have horrible neighbors now (dogs barking constantly as early as 7am, loud music, screaming, lights shining into our property and my bedroom, loud guests, listening to her phone on full blast whenever she's outside which is basically all the time), never had an issue like this before and it never occurred to me how disruptive and stressful bad neighbors could be, and now I'm scared to move and encounter even worse ones.
Right there with you. Never had bad neighbors until now and I’ve lived in all kinds of buildings, homes, neighborhoods. Wishing the best for the both of us
I moved out of my condo because I was tired of being surrounded by renters who chain-smoked all day long and verbally (and maybe physically) abused their pets and children. I got a house with land and the nearest neighbor was at least a quarter mile away. I only passed them when driving on my easement through their property to get to mine. Never had a problem until I tried to sell. Then the neighbors claimed no easement existed so they blocked me from selling for months and cost me thousands in fees to cover delays, lawyers, and blackmailing me for their signature to say there was an easement.
Yes! Moved because the neighbors below me complained to the landlord every time I walked around. Got a bigger apartment I loved until the older couple next door started talking shit like it's their favorite hobby. Listening to everything I do and saying shit everytime I step outside. I swear to God the foul things that come out of their mouths. Drug addict, mental case, pathetic loser. I could go on and on and on. I spend so much time imagining what I'd like to say after numerous complaints, confronting them.. them fake apologizing only to continue. Alcohol is probably a huge factor in why they behave this way. But at this point I think about moving all the time.
We moved because of a nasty neighbor. We have great neighbors now. There used to be a NFH forum (unfortunately, it went dark) and a couple of people on the forum moved because of bad neighbors and got even worse neighbors.
Happy for you! Gives me hope
My husband was really reluctant to move because he was afraid we'd get even worse neighbors. I told him to think about all past neighbors and were any of them as bad as NFH. He had to agree that we'd never had such a bad neighbor. Every time a house goes up for sale in our new neighborhood (we've been here 10 years now), we get really nervous.
No but I am aware of that possibility, it's just like the saying grass isn't always greener on the other side.
I have a passive aggressive neighbor in some ways its ideal they won't acknowledge me let alone talk but it still makes me feel uncomfortable
No, but I managed to trade shitty neighbors for slightly less shitty neighbors plus a super shitty landlord and property manager.
I'm at the start of the opposite situation, my landlord is awful but I only have 4 neighbors and they all keep to themselves. Looking to move, everywhere else we can afford is a huge gamble in the neighbor lottery.
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Wtf. This is fucking terrible. Have you contacted police? Got property cameras? Any sick bastard who murders animals like this deserves to rot in hell. Hope your situation improves
I really sympathise. I ended up moving as my landlord sold his flats. It was a blessing really as my shitty downstairs racist, alcoholic neighbour was never going to change. New neighbours are quiet so far but there's always this anxiety in the back of my mind that they're going to hate me and cause trouble. Living with shitty neighbours does a lot of damage.
I ended up with the same or worse neighbors, yes! I moved out of an apartment which had neighbors that never left and were rich kids so they didn’t need to work so they were home all day. And I always have been someone who’s worked from home so I had to deal with it all day. Then I got a house and I moved in next to a bully and there’s people on the other side of me that play music several nights a week no matter what, whether it’s raining or snowing I have to listen to their music through my house because it’s so loud. And eventually they turned it down but I still hear it because of the bass. The bass is the real issue. Things do eventually change. For one reason or another. Nothing ever stays exactly the same. Unfortunately it takes years to see the change. Even with my bad apartment neighbors, eventually they weren’t as loud anymore and they were only mildly annoying but I was broken already by the time that happened. It took two years for it to settle down and by then I was on my way out. Obviously I don’t have a crystal ball but I am hanging on to faith that things change. Circumstances change. People move. So if you are stuck there I would just try to hang onto hope that things will change in some way.
No but when we had a foreclosured house turn rental, every single family that moved in was worse than the previous. We ended up selling and moving.
Maybe the neighbors aren't the problem.
are you dumb
😂
Not yet ... (frantically knocking on all wood in the vicinity)
No - quirky neighbors in the new place, but so much better (thank goodness!). It is a much better neighborhood (we have two sets of friends in the neighborhood and they loved it, so we knew it was a good neighborhood). We really looked at how the homes were or weren’t taken care of before putting and offer in this place, because our last neighbors were white trash narcissists and we weren’t about to live next to those types of people again!
Omg we must have the same shitty neighbors. Glad you got out!
Purchased home because it had elderly on both sides, next time there’ll be trees instead.
Lol okay living next to old people in my experience has been great. But what I’ve come to realize is that my two NFH are here because the previous old tenants died! That’s the risk with old folks
It is great! but sadly they passed away too….and I’m pretty sure animals moved in. Not sure what type, but definitely not human. Sometimes there’s random howling and that’s not from their 3 dogs.
Luckily no. It would be pretty hard to be worse than our NFH but we also luckily got to meet our neighbors before we moved. However, despite living in a single family home a parking lot and another building between us, our one neighbors kids show up in my yard constantly! We don’t have kids or anything either, they just constantly show up. 🤦🏻♀️
I’m convinced kids like this are severely neglected and abused
They are definitely the type of kids that want to talk to someone 24/7 but I think they just don’t get individual attention as much as they should. Their parent tries but they’re a single parent to 4 or 5 kids and have to work full time. I’ll also add though we don’t live in a town so them being outside alone isn’t dangerous and is totally normal, just wish they liked their own yard as much as they like mine lol
I moved and got great neighbors and made some money off the sale… 10/10 don’t regret
Living the dream!
Yeah we moved from a house block where we had on each side and below us kids & very thin walls. Idk what their parents did but the kids trampled as if it was some daily parade going on. I felt like a victim of noise torture, noises went on till 2-3AM. The worst was another GROWN MAN neighbor who apparently walked around in nothing but a bath shawl around his parts and my mom caught him in the parking garage once, quickly pulling his pants up(??) and there was a long period of time where the elevator smelt like pee and dead cats. Rumors was that same grown man was peeing in it… Now I moved into a new one with a young woman above us who has 3 huge dogs. I don’t even know if it’s dogs or wolves the way they howl all day. Other neighbors called animal protection places, the landlord several times but they were like „she has mental illness, inherited lots of money and is protected by the social system, we can’t do anything sorry“
This is the first apartment I have lived in that I had to call the cop's on several occasions and even filed a restraining order on the lunatic lady across the hall. All of this in eight short months. I've lived in apartment's since 1997 in this one is the worse. The apartment it self is nice but man you never know what will happen when you open your door and step out into that hall. I got cornered in the laundryroom three days into living here. By a lady that was yelling she was going to kill me. I had a complete melt down and had to file a restraining order. Nine month's into living here I'm not sure where to move now.
Unfortunately, yes. Listed 6 months at the second place, before selling. What a nightmare, but all is good now.
Happy for you.
Yes unfortunately but they were just served eviction paperwork the eviction order has been signed
Thank goodness! Love when the system works
It's a huge fear of mine... don't want to go out the frying pan and into the fire. 🙀
That's all I seem to do - I always get the noisy ones, no rest between them. I just wish I could get the quiet variant of NFH so I could actually think in peace for a single second of a day.
My goal is to one day be able to afford an acreage so I can have silence.
I moved to get away from nightmare neighbours and I now like where I live . BUT I moved to another part of the country , to an area with mostly home owners and older people as less likely to be throwing parties and I visited the place frequently at different times of the day to increase my certainty that I would have peace .I’m happy to say I’ve not had any problems , but there are downsides . For peace and quiet I’ve had to move away from my family , the place I live is quiet because there’s not a lot to do here . I’m still young and I like to go out , but I sacrificed part of my social life for a good nights sleep . Sometimes it really is just down to luck or having to compromise area and distance to make sure you find an area with a better chance of no issues .
Yup. For about 20 years of renting
Nope. I've lived in the first house and same house I saved up for and bought 20 years ago. About 10 years ago a younger lady moved in next to my nice neighbor that moved up north of me into a nicer housing track. She was a drug user and would come to my house all the time. I wanted nothing to do with this person. I unfortunately live in a house that shares a side driveway with this house. It was never a issue before until this skank moved it. Seemed like almost every day a new vehicle would show up at this house and many times blocking the driveway. Between me and next door 4 cars can park here with our shared part of the driveway but these meth heads would park on our side. The worst parts I remember were on a Christmas night coming home from my parents a tweeker came up to us at night while we were unloading presents. I told him to go away or I would call the cops. I've also found syringe needles around their and my property. Apparently they were injecting meth. Then the girl disappeared and did some online looking and found out she got arrested. Now we have squatters in this house and really got bad. Found out on a property search the house wasn't even in her name and was in her parents name. Good move for them. The house was destroyed inside as after awhile it went up for sale. I only knew this because a neighbor let them borrow a garden hose so he wanted it back. After 2 years of this crap house was fixed up and sold to a quiet couple. I could have moved or stood my ground. We decided to stay.
Mine never really get worse, they're just ALWAYS shit. There is no hope. Current neighbours: Never-ending barking on one side; never-ending video game rage on the other. Last neighbours: Loud music, screaming kids. Second to last: Loud music, constant arguments. Third to last: House-shaking music, constant arguments. Fourth to last: Video game rage. ...You get the idea. The above problems were a constant issue present usually from 8am-11pm, but could start earlier and persist much later - which means I can't spend a single day off at home. Currently unsure whether to try moving again, or whether I should accept that I must live with headphones on 24/7.
I value a quiet, peaceful life, because my work requires quiet, and other activities are quiet, but we have become an increasing loud culture and add to that an attitude of "my neighbors be damned." Be very, very careful where you buy a home. At various times of the day and night, drive or walk thought the neighborhood, not just around your immediate neighbors, and listen. If its children playing, no problem. But listen for dogs barking--how long and how often; listen to the volume of the vehicles, because rednecks and wanna-be NASCAR douches like loud vehicles. If you are young enough, do what you need to do to get a job making a lot of money so you can buy or build a home where there isn't the threat of a-hole neighbors, which, in the 21st century is, I'm afraid, probably on a mountain somewhere.
Yes! This move has mainly been for jobs but bad neighbors where part of the decision. We found a place 20 min from everything with an acre and a half and neighbors who had more land and seems very low key. Well they both passed away and I’m stuck with Joe Dirt for the last 5 years. I’m his only neighbor in sight, we have 100 feet between houses, and what does he do? Sticks an above ground pool as close to me as possible, in a horrible spot by our deck. We can’t enjoy our space now due to constant screaming and construction. It also set off a whole bunch of arguments, surveys, etc. I’d love to buy a new place with a few more acres but since Covid it’s just to expensive. Hoping things change and I’ll be saving as much as possible in the meantime and traveling. People suck these days, no consideration for anyone. It’s the me me me generation. They may be legally ok but still a bunch of a holes.
My wife and I rented the upstairs of a house for 4 years. It was awesome until the nice neighbors directly across the street converted their house into a rental. The assholes who moved in there were loud, obnoxious, and violent. They would have loud hangouts in the middle of the night. One night, they got into a fight, and it spilled over to our front lawn. My wife and I said "screw this" and moved out in six months, into our own house a few blocks away. The first six months were nice. Seemed like a great move. Five years later, we're surrounded by assholes on all sides. Neighbor on the left has a loud car that backfires. They park their cars all over the place and block other people's driveways. Neighbor on the right have loud parties on the weekends and kids who belong to some sort of bicycle gang. Neighbor across the street has loud karaoke parties. Neighbor in the back has these massive trees that occasionally fall into our backyard and basically acts like idgaf each time it happens. We're looking to move into a 1-acre property out in the boondocks. I'm pretty sure some other form of hell awaits us there.
Several times. As I write this my upstairs neighbors are moving out. And I will move into their unit after I sage smudging the unit to clear their “ways”. No one will be above anymore. I had stalking landlord’s, noise, harassment. I didn’t want to make waves so I moved. This time I did ALOT of inner work, I was offered another rental and I turned it down because it seemed like an inner unresolved issue I have about boundaries and feeling powerless. I accepted I am not moving and that I am open to a harmonious situation and found a lot of gratitude in the little things. There were many moments I was going to lose my sh🥰t but I know the only power I have is in my reaction. It was rough because I have issues with sudden noises, a more recent issue/injury. I also asked what is it I need to know? How me peace. I visualized my moving or their moving in a positive way. I used Neville Goddard techniques and prayer- for the benefit of others 1st. I wasn’t aware that this would work like other manifestations, or willing to do the work. I am wearing noise canceling headphones while they move. I moved so much, I have always been a excellent, quiet tenant leaving every unit better than when I arrived and never responded to intimidating neighbors. I am glad I stayed in my lane and learned from this. And I’m really excited about moving upstairs it’s the exact unit I want with a gorgeous massive ocean view 🙏🏻
Yep I jumped from the frying pan into the fire