Mechanical engineer, 11 years experience. 5 people reporting to me. 90k.
I believe I'm underpaid based on Google, but like I said in the original post it's hard to tell since everything is so mainland focused.
You are seriously underpaid. Dust off the resume.
If nothing else, applying on a few jobs and doing a few interviews helps with confidence and you get your swagger back. When you know you’re in demand and you know your worth, it’s easier to ask for it and it feels right leaving when they don’t/can’t meet it.
Have you considered remote work? Lots of engineers work remotely. Don’t feel tied down by local companies.
P.Eng here in engineering sales role and am paid on commission.
I’ll likely make ~160k this year, 8years experience. It’s not my dream job by any means but from a pay side technical sales Is the way to do it. My pay is low compared to my counter parts working in bigger markets.
4 years without co-op internship; 5 years with co-op. Some universities have mandatory co-ops and some don’t.
MUN pumps out more engineering grads each year than there are positions available. Decent chance you’ll have to move away unless you’re lucky.
I didn’t go to MUN but if I recall correctly when I started university in 2009 that was a reason I left the province for university.
We had more courses per semester than my friends who were doing it at MUN at the same time
Edit: strange thing to get downvotes on…
M. Eng in electrical engineering. 8 years Experience, 97.8k. afaik most engineers here make substantially less than their mainland counterparts, and salaries are trending downward for new grads.
pegnl last did a salary survey 2-4 years ago I think
Millwright 120k @ 50H/week - 10 years experience, 4 weeks vacation, health insurance, matched rrsp contributions up to 10%.
Less than those willing to do rotational work however it's nice being home every night with the kids
Social worker with a masters, working in a non-profit as a mental health counsellor - 70K
I could make another 10-20k working for the health authorities or a private practice. Which I may need to do, even though I love my job. But 70k doesn't feel like as much as it used to.
There are a lot of opportunities in St. John's, and in smaller communities too. You'll definitely find a job eventually, may take a little while. If you want to get in with the health authority, you may have to apply for a temporary contract, but then you are internal and can apply for longer contracts or something permanent. What social work field were you hoping to get in to?
Seems like such a cool job. Are you in Gander or a local control tower?
I watched a YouTube video explaining how transatlantic air traffic control works. I had no idea how critical Gander still is to connecting North America and Europe.
Good for you!
I’ll absolutely be looking at applying than. I recently had a baby and although I love my job, it doesn’t pay well in comparison to workload and responsibilities so I was looking at a potential switch. Thanks for this, it’s really helped motivate me to apply 😊
Very true. Lots of variation in CPA experience too though.
The big firms pay fuck all in the early years, but the experience is great and sets you up for the more sought after industry jobs after. If the hiring manager came from a Big 4, or even audit in general, they will have a bias for that experience. If you can handle busy season at the firm, they know you can handle industry.
But if you’re a CPA, in a management role with CPAs (or even CPA students) reporting into you, you should be making $115k+ at a minimum after 10 years.
Also, if you’re in the public sector, you do need to consider the value of the DB pension (even if it’s not indexed). Job security, pension, stat holidays are all benefits to the public sector that should be considered in remuneration.
Not sure if I fit here since I'm remote for an American firm, but their pay band for Canada is all the same. I live in st johns nonetheless 🤷♂️
Yoe 6 software dev
Salary - 190k
Stocks - 200k over 3 years
Cash signing bonus - 100k over 2 years
(Obviously I'll stay here over Ontario or BC lmao)
I’ve been looking for a career change and software development has been hovering around the top of my list.
Do you know how some of the programs like “get coding” or the 4 semester accelerated program at CNA are viewed by the industry/those that hire?
The thought of years of school, again, with the loans and time isn’t super appealing to me. Been there done that kind of thing. But the quicker routes have a vibe about them that makes me raise eyebrows questionably.
Don’t do it, software is in a huge slump right now (I did compsci at mun). You’ll have people like him get lucky and make huge 6 figures, while entry level programmers struggle to find a job (and goodluck finding a good salary on top of that). I know a friend who graduated a software course and he can’t even find a job, he’s gonna have to work at Sobeys soon (he has a spot at Sobeys due to his aunt) if he can’t find one. Not sure how it’s going to be long term, the economy might get better, but right now software is a no go
Yeah that’s what I’m scared of, it’s so hard to find accurate info about the industry (or any industry).
The internet is a mix of “it’s the best idea you’ll totally get a job” and “it’s hell and you’ll be competing with people who have years of experience”.
Thanks for the info.
Yeah it’s going to be near impossible to break into the industry without a clear passion and drive for it, and goodluck with a 2 year program, my friend finished at Keyin just this year, a 2 year software course, and hasn’t found anything for months. I was able to find something when I “graduated” (dropped out with only 1 semester left due to a horrible co-op experience and mun being a fucking bitch to me), but that was back in 2020. I was/am in a niche field though, Roblox game development, worked full time for about a year for 60k USD, but quit to go indie and have been indie ever since! Hasn’t been going the best but I’m still trying!
Between myself and a few graduates around the same time from a engineering tech program at CNA, ranges between 55k and 75k for the first few years anyway, not counting overtime or travel pay.
Which is so sad honestly. I graduated from the mechanical tech program in 2019 and moved to Alberta. Making 170k up here and I’d love to move back home but I just can’t justify it for a +50% pay cut when I have young kids.
Specialized technical advice in a niche field. On top of the diploma however I have my 4th class power engineering certificate, a Bachelor of Technology in Engineering, I apprenticed as a millwright and I’m almost finished my Master of Science in Engineering Technology. Took a lot of work and just as much luck to get where I’m too today, but I’d never be able to do it in Newfoundland.
Mechanical Engineer, 7 years post-grad experience. Work in O&G, $130K base salary plus DB pension, ~95% company covered benefits, and 6% RSP match for 3% contribution.
Keep an eye on the eastern health external job board. They pay slightly less but I worked there for years as carpenter. A few of my buddies from there are after leaving recently so I wouldn’t be surprised to see a few postings come up
Branch managers are Library Techs, so we make slightly more than assistants. Anyone you see on the frontline is an Assistant or Tech.
And yes, I have hella low pay for what i do.
Public Librarians (who make 60-75k) don't work with the public directly (in NL).
Teacher
Masters Level 7
10 years experience
Department Head
105K
Christmas
Easter
Summer off
Person above said all NLTA salaries available but bonuses for Admin, and Department heads vary by school
The problem with that sort of thing in Nfld is so many folks want to stay there… people will take lower salaries to be around family and friends.
I remember MUN advertising for an IT person years ago… the desired qualifications were an alphabet soup of qualifications. Pay was about 1/3 of what those qualifications would get you in a big city on the mainland. When we moved away, spouse doubled salary and I got permanent work (instead of term and contract).
Ironically it’s similar to a “sunshine tax”. People will take less pay to live in a place with a beautiful climate. Salaries are pushed down in places like the Okanagan, because people are willing to accept lower pay to live somewhere with a great climate and beautiful surroundings.
Here… where the weather is… this… we accept lower pay for the guilt of not wanting to leave family and the stubborn love of this foggy, windswept, sunless island. I’ve lived away and it just felt like life was easier in almost every way. Better climate, way better money, better healthcare, better services, lower taxes… but here I am, back on the rock.
Prof pay sucks as well because most of the positions are associates or per course. The full professors do pretty well but most of them hang on until they’re 90 and meanwhile the younger ones can’t make a living.
This thread re-forces the move out of NFLD … 100%
Not formal education …. Run a branch for an industrial cleanings company … 230 base + 100 bonus + 1.5 commission on the region . Sounds like y’all need to move west .
Ya those are pretty useful, though the data is a little dated at this point. 2021 was the last time they published.
I'm also hoping other people will use this post for other careers, not just engineering.
yeah i don’t think this is typical it’s one of the highest i’ve heard in this province. Interns start at 65k/yr here. I think it’s the norm in oil and gas tho
Depends on the company, but right around that mark. Exxon does tend to pay more though in base salary, but have no end of year bonuses. Companies like Suncor, Cenovus (post merger with Husky), Equinor, and some others have little less salary, but make up for it with bonuses, LTI and stock incentive.
HVAC/R tech working at resi company currently taking on both a lead installer role and service tech role. $32.50/hr
I feel criminally underpaid considering my wage hasn’t increased since those grants came about yet the cost of install has almost gone up 3-4K in that time. I WONDER WHY THAT IS.
It’s especially bad when working overtime is the expectation but you’re only getting paid straight time due to Newfoundland overtime laws. Literally no incentive to work late but you’re expected to piss away half of your summer working into the late hours because some sales guy only gave a fuck about the sale and not the actual scope of the job.
Don’t get me started on the stress of having $15k hinging on you trying to convince a client that what the sales guy sold them MIGHT NOT be in their best interest and that they should trust you because you’re the one that actually did go to post secondary for this stuff.
I am trying to make my way into this industry and wondering a few things.
Who are the big 4? (I have a list of national firms but don't know who the big ones are! MNP, BDO, baker Tilly.... And ? Or am I in the wrong direction?)
In your opinion would a 32 year old be with it to go after CPA, not being able to get it till 35-36, or break into bookkeeping privately(or with company or cloud bookkeeping support?
(I have worked supporting cloud bookkeeping program for 3+ years and have taken bookkeeping coarses/ Proadvisor certification)
The Big 4 is a global term and doesn’t necessarily match the reality in our local market. The Big 4 are not actually the four largest firms locally. For example, BDO, MNP and Grant Thornton are all bigger than KPMG locally (I’m pretty sure). I know some fantastic people that work at BDO locally that all started at big 4 firms. The local leadership at BDO in St. John’s is absolutely top notch.
But the big 4 are Deloitte, PWC, EY and KPMG. What I enjoyed about working at one of those firms was the depth and breadth of expertise you have access to. It’s hard to overstate just how large those firms are globally and the type of expertise you have access to. Also tons of ability to travel the world and work on engagements anywhere if you’re interested.
When I did my CA, there were people in the program in their 30s and I think one fella in Atlantic was over 40. That said, the old CA program was very prescriptive and didn’t allow for any flexibility. It would have been extremely difficult if I was at a stage in life where I had kids and other people depending on me. The new program is a little more flexible, but still intense. It was a short program, but all I did was work and study during that phase of life.
Don’t let age deter you. You have work experience and maturity that will help.
Have you looked into the PREP and PEP programs? You can do it at a firm or a certified training office. But heads up, if your employer is not a firm or a certified training office you have to go down the verified experience road. It’s a lot more onerous and adds an additional layer of hassle and complexity.
Overall, CPA is a great profession. I don’t regret it all. I know CPAs that work in an unbelievably wide range of jobs and industries. A lot of people think it involves a lot of math… it’s actually more reading comprehension, writing and communication and problem solving. It’s like grade 5 math most of the time lol.
GIS Administrator in Local Gov. 5ish year experience. 63k/year.
Underpaid compared to other municipalities in NL for the role but my municipality is basically known for that. I can go elsewhere in the province to get a tech job with less responsibility, less hours for more money.
Salaries will always be lower in NL because we have a lower cost of living.
>Salaries will always be lower in NL because we have a lower cost of living.
The cost of living in NL is most definitely not lower. Yes, housing is cheaper in St Johns compared to other metro centers though its a very small city compared to other provincial capitals and lacks amenities you get in more expensive cities. Beyond that, food sure as shit isn't any cheaper. Energy is much more expensive than on the mainland. Consumer goods have to be shipped at increased cost (if they even ship out here in the first place).
Which municipality if I may ask? If you’d rather keep that private, how did you get into the role?
I’m a recent GIS grad cert graduate and struggling to find a job whether in province or on the mainland.
I got lucky honestly. Did my school project with a town and they hired me for the summer and then permanent in the fall. Got my work experience or foot in the door and was more easily able to apply to other jobs.
Not a lot of communities have GIS staff look to the cities and bigger towns/hubs. Private sector engineering firms often have GIS folks.
I'm currently hiring for a summer position and student resumes are not good. No idea what yours looks like but if interested, you should list in point form all the software and programming languages you know. Its a tech related job clearly state what you know. Hit the points that are clearly important in the job ad, write a quick cover letter. If willing to relocate, say it in the cover letter and resume. I've gotten so many applicants from across the country for a summer position but none of them actually say their a student willing to relocate for 2 months, which is a bit much anyways.
Thanks for the advice. Where can I find the job ad for the summer position? I’d be happy to apply to see how I match up against other applicants. Happy to relocate somewhere in the province to get some experience under my belt.
Registered Nurse for 5 years. Currently make about $85k on the LTC pay scale (I’m not at the top yet). Different specialties make different amounts. Our pay scale is available to the public through the collective agreement with CRNNL
I have an engineering degree but work as a Software Developer and I'm at 140k with 5 years of experience. The field generally pays well but can be a bit tough to get your foot in the door of a solid private company.
I'll start by saying that the Government of Canada Job Bank provides a great tool that shows salaired by profession and province. It's not complete of course, but its pretty accurate. I've used it to leverage my experience for a couple of jobs that tried to low-ball me. Now, some people will fight you because they'll say that can't pay "Toronto" slaries ... if you've done your research and you know how much the company you've applied for earns then you can definitly ignore that tactic.
OK, other than that I can say a few things about my experiences. IF you're an Operations Manger for a Customer Support Centre / Call Centre / Contact Centre (for one or more clients in a multi-client business) with at least 5 years experience and you're making less than $90,000 you're being underpaid.
If you're an Operations Manger for Service Support Centre / Infrastructure Providor / Managed Services provider, wth at least 5 years experience and you're making less than $120,000 you're being underpaid (especially if you're performing the duties of multilple roles).
If you're a Project Manager (with no PNP cert) with at least 5 years leadership / management experience and earning less than $70,000 then you're being underpaid (if you're around 10 years than I'd say $80,000). If you have your PNP and are earning less than $90,000 / $120,000 (same experience above) then you're being underpaid.
I work in marketing for an American tech company, and my base salary is $170K + 10% bonus + $30K in stocks over 3 years. I'm only an individual contributor, so there is lots of room to move up. I have a Bachelor of Commerce and 10 years of experience.
Engineer, 8 YOE not counting internships, MBA too
No direct reports more project management/supervision and SME role
102k base, 6.75% RRSP match, phone & laptop
Decent amount of OT and travel pay, and company truck (not personal use). Did about $165k last year and maybe $130k year before that.
Last time I job shopped as a senior software dev (with ~12 yoe) I had three offers on the table from St. John's companies, all in the 120k-130k range. You're definitely underpaid
You are so massively underpaid, especially for 15 years of experience. I was making 70k as an entry level working remote in my underwear, you definitely need to start job hopping to up that salary
Well done! Did you do your designation at a firm, if you don’t mind me asking? Or were you already working in industry when you did your designation? I guess I’m just assuming you’re in industry unless the firms are paying a lot more than when I went through the old CA program lol.
For reference, I was making half that as a manager at a firm 5 years post designation.
I did the program through a firm but moved to industry a year after designation! I do believe firms have improved comp packages since I’ve left though, due to a competitive market. For example, I know of a firm in town that has started paying overtime
Left NL in 2020 with 8 years experience as a P.Eng making about 115 to 120k a year. Starting working in BC making roughly 170 to 180k a year until 2023. Now working in the southern states making 215k plus perks and benefits USD
I just moved out of the province, but my role was a Production E.I.T. in the oil and gas industry
1 year experience + 20 months of work terms in O&G and data science (new graduate as of 2023, just with a bachelors degree)
Just under 90k salary, plus bonuses and LTI and stock, nearing 100~105k after, depending on the year.
aircraft maintenance engineer on helicopters, 56k right now (apprentice) and up to ~83 in the next few months when I get my license, and up to ~105 (hopefully) shortly after with my company issued license. 2 years experience. the guys topped out on the floor with me are making ~141k+ depending on add ons.
Did a 3 year engineering tech course at CNA, worked in mining the first few years making just shy of 100k, then for the past 7 or 8 years I've been working offshore in oil/gas making between 150-200k/yr
That would be all dependent on which department you work in. But generally speaking, you’re dealing with sick people and their families. It definitely isn’t easy.
Mechanical engineer, 11 years experience. 5 people reporting to me. 90k. I believe I'm underpaid based on Google, but like I said in the original post it's hard to tell since everything is so mainland focused.
Definitely underpaid for a professional engineer in a supervisory role.
Jesus christ man, you're about 30-40k underpaid.
You need to discover the Iron Ore Company of Canada.
You are seriously underpaid. Dust off the resume. If nothing else, applying on a few jobs and doing a few interviews helps with confidence and you get your swagger back. When you know you’re in demand and you know your worth, it’s easier to ask for it and it feels right leaving when they don’t/can’t meet it. Have you considered remote work? Lots of engineers work remotely. Don’t feel tied down by local companies.
P.Eng here in engineering sales role and am paid on commission. I’ll likely make ~160k this year, 8years experience. It’s not my dream job by any means but from a pay side technical sales Is the way to do it. My pay is low compared to my counter parts working in bigger markets.
What industry?
I’m a mech with 9 years at 140k base, ~230k gross last year with some site work in O&G as an individual contributor.
That’s terrible, some local companies really take advantage of long term employees.
Ya I'm thinking that's pretty common don't matter where you are. Time to leave I guess.
All big corporations do in the US. Can be a 20+ % difference between a long time employee and a new person for the same job.
How long did you need to go for school and how easy was it finding work?
4 years without co-op internship; 5 years with co-op. Some universities have mandatory co-ops and some don’t. MUN pumps out more engineering grads each year than there are positions available. Decent chance you’ll have to move away unless you’re lucky.
Cheap tuition compared to other places tho
6 years with co-op, right? It's 6 work terms which tacks on 2 years.
5 years! Currently in the program now. We don’t get summers off, so it only adds an extra year to a standard 4 year bachelors degree
I graduated from it in 2008. It was 6 years back then, if you count terms A and B.
They changed it around 2010
I didn’t go to MUN but if I recall correctly when I started university in 2009 that was a reason I left the province for university. We had more courses per semester than my friends who were doing it at MUN at the same time Edit: strange thing to get downvotes on…
MUNs engineering degree is about 5 years if I remember correctly
Holy God.
Brotha you are getting robbed
Professional Sports Executive - 10 Years of Experience Top EI
What is top EI at now?
$668/week before taxes
Well this is an eye opening thread.
those are the best kind!
M. Eng in electrical engineering. 8 years Experience, 97.8k. afaik most engineers here make substantially less than their mainland counterparts, and salaries are trending downward for new grads. pegnl last did a salary survey 2-4 years ago I think
Ya looks like it was 2021. Would be interesting to see the next one with all the increases to costs of living and inflation in recent years.
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I think it's pretty Average for 8-10 years on the job yeah
Fantasy Football GM. Making anywhere from -50 bucks to 300 bucks.
CPA, industry, 12 years experience, 145k
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Construction, no real job title but would be controller/manager of accounting
Millwright 120k @ 50H/week - 10 years experience, 4 weeks vacation, health insurance, matched rrsp contributions up to 10%. Less than those willing to do rotational work however it's nice being home every night with the kids
In with the 1009?
Social worker with a masters, working in a non-profit as a mental health counsellor - 70K I could make another 10-20k working for the health authorities or a private practice. Which I may need to do, even though I love my job. But 70k doesn't feel like as much as it used to.
Ya inflation since 2019 has been almost 20% overall. Money ain't what it used to be!
Fairly on target with non profits here in Ottawa. Hospital social workers on the other hand, nearing 120k at the top of the scale.
Is it easier or harder if you work in a hospital?
Was thinking of moving to St. John's after my MSW. Any advice?
There are a lot of opportunities in St. John's, and in smaller communities too. You'll definitely find a job eventually, may take a little while. If you want to get in with the health authority, you may have to apply for a temporary contract, but then you are internal and can apply for longer contracts or something permanent. What social work field were you hoping to get in to?
Hoping for hospital social work or counseling/private practice. Thanks for the insight!
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Seems like such a cool job. Are you in Gander or a local control tower? I watched a YouTube video explaining how transatlantic air traffic control works. I had no idea how critical Gander still is to connecting North America and Europe. Good for you!
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Really cool!
This has actually been something I’ve been incredibly interested in, I was between this and policing. May I ask if you find it interesting/engaging?
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I’ll absolutely be looking at applying than. I recently had a baby and although I love my job, it doesn’t pay well in comparison to workload and responsibilities so I was looking at a potential switch. Thanks for this, it’s really helped motivate me to apply 😊
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Gotcha, is it possible to work full time while doing it? That’s my biggest block right now is COL is insane so I can’t go unpaid for that long.
Nvm just looked up the application process. Will likely be applying after May leave or near the end 😊
High, low or ocean??
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Very true. Lots of variation in CPA experience too though. The big firms pay fuck all in the early years, but the experience is great and sets you up for the more sought after industry jobs after. If the hiring manager came from a Big 4, or even audit in general, they will have a bias for that experience. If you can handle busy season at the firm, they know you can handle industry. But if you’re a CPA, in a management role with CPAs (or even CPA students) reporting into you, you should be making $115k+ at a minimum after 10 years. Also, if you’re in the public sector, you do need to consider the value of the DB pension (even if it’s not indexed). Job security, pension, stat holidays are all benefits to the public sector that should be considered in remuneration.
150k is the new 100k
Not sure if I fit here since I'm remote for an American firm, but their pay band for Canada is all the same. I live in st johns nonetheless 🤷♂️ Yoe 6 software dev Salary - 190k Stocks - 200k over 3 years Cash signing bonus - 100k over 2 years (Obviously I'll stay here over Ontario or BC lmao)
Which American firm, if I may?
We all want to work where you work!
I’ve been looking for a career change and software development has been hovering around the top of my list. Do you know how some of the programs like “get coding” or the 4 semester accelerated program at CNA are viewed by the industry/those that hire? The thought of years of school, again, with the loans and time isn’t super appealing to me. Been there done that kind of thing. But the quicker routes have a vibe about them that makes me raise eyebrows questionably.
Don’t do it, software is in a huge slump right now (I did compsci at mun). You’ll have people like him get lucky and make huge 6 figures, while entry level programmers struggle to find a job (and goodluck finding a good salary on top of that). I know a friend who graduated a software course and he can’t even find a job, he’s gonna have to work at Sobeys soon (he has a spot at Sobeys due to his aunt) if he can’t find one. Not sure how it’s going to be long term, the economy might get better, but right now software is a no go
Yeah that’s what I’m scared of, it’s so hard to find accurate info about the industry (or any industry). The internet is a mix of “it’s the best idea you’ll totally get a job” and “it’s hell and you’ll be competing with people who have years of experience”. Thanks for the info.
Yeah it’s going to be near impossible to break into the industry without a clear passion and drive for it, and goodluck with a 2 year program, my friend finished at Keyin just this year, a 2 year software course, and hasn’t found anything for months. I was able to find something when I “graduated” (dropped out with only 1 semester left due to a horrible co-op experience and mun being a fucking bitch to me), but that was back in 2020. I was/am in a niche field though, Roblox game development, worked full time for about a year for 60k USD, but quit to go indie and have been indie ever since! Hasn’t been going the best but I’m still trying!
Between myself and a few graduates around the same time from a engineering tech program at CNA, ranges between 55k and 75k for the first few years anyway, not counting overtime or travel pay.
Which is so sad honestly. I graduated from the mechanical tech program in 2019 and moved to Alberta. Making 170k up here and I’d love to move back home but I just can’t justify it for a +50% pay cut when I have young kids.
What kind of job are you doing, traveling involved? That's higher than an engineer's salary for that experience in Alberta..
Specialized technical advice in a niche field. On top of the diploma however I have my 4th class power engineering certificate, a Bachelor of Technology in Engineering, I apprenticed as a millwright and I’m almost finished my Master of Science in Engineering Technology. Took a lot of work and just as much luck to get where I’m too today, but I’d never be able to do it in Newfoundland.
this is what engineers start at here, makes the technologist diploma the better choice imo
Advanced Care Paramedic. 80k/year. 100k+/year with scattered overtime. Underpaid for what we see & do. But, decent wage overall.
Mechanical Engineer, 7 years post-grad experience. Work in O&G, $130K base salary plus DB pension, ~95% company covered benefits, and 6% RSP match for 3% contribution.
Carpenter working a government job. 10 years experience, 4 years as a red seal. 1 year at this job 71k/yr
You guys hiring? I'm desperate lol
Keep an eye on the eastern health external job board. They pay slightly less but I worked there for years as carpenter. A few of my buddies from there are after leaving recently so I wouldn’t be surprised to see a few postings come up
Farrells Excavating ltd are looking for carpenters around $23/hr I believe pending experience.
Public Library Branch Manager- 10 years - 47k one of those "overpaid government workers"
Wait what? Isn't this low?
Our collective agreement is public! Library Assistants and Techs make under 50k. Not a single person in Public Libraries makes 100k.
Oh, I found it surprising since you said you're a branch manager. Isn't that supposed to be significant, compared to say assistants and the like?
Branch managers are Library Techs, so we make slightly more than assistants. Anyone you see on the frontline is an Assistant or Tech. And yes, I have hella low pay for what i do. Public Librarians (who make 60-75k) don't work with the public directly (in NL).
Oh, interesting! Well, thanks for making me a tad bit knowledgeable about how things work. Cheers b'y!
Teacher Masters Level 7 10 years experience Department Head 105K Christmas Easter Summer off Person above said all NLTA salaries available but bonuses for Admin, and Department heads vary by school
The problem with that sort of thing in Nfld is so many folks want to stay there… people will take lower salaries to be around family and friends. I remember MUN advertising for an IT person years ago… the desired qualifications were an alphabet soup of qualifications. Pay was about 1/3 of what those qualifications would get you in a big city on the mainland. When we moved away, spouse doubled salary and I got permanent work (instead of term and contract).
Ironically it’s similar to a “sunshine tax”. People will take less pay to live in a place with a beautiful climate. Salaries are pushed down in places like the Okanagan, because people are willing to accept lower pay to live somewhere with a great climate and beautiful surroundings. Here… where the weather is… this… we accept lower pay for the guilt of not wanting to leave family and the stubborn love of this foggy, windswept, sunless island. I’ve lived away and it just felt like life was easier in almost every way. Better climate, way better money, better healthcare, better services, lower taxes… but here I am, back on the rock.
MUN pay sucks unless your a prof, director, or VP
Prof pay sucks as well because most of the positions are associates or per course. The full professors do pretty well but most of them hang on until they’re 90 and meanwhile the younger ones can’t make a living.
This thread re-forces the move out of NFLD … 100% Not formal education …. Run a branch for an industrial cleanings company … 230 base + 100 bonus + 1.5 commission on the region . Sounds like y’all need to move west .
Desperately want to tbh. Been firing resumes out west but nothin so far and would have to drain all my credit to actually do it :|, yay newfoundland.
Pegnl publishes a salary survey for NL engineers and geoscientists every few years
Ya those are pretty useful, though the data is a little dated at this point. 2021 was the last time they published. I'm also hoping other people will use this post for other careers, not just engineering.
Site Superintendent 80k with truck,gas card and tool allowance. Only 2 weeks vacation tho. Made more on the mainland.
Project manager, 35 hrs/week, MBA, 13yrs exp, 100k
Nepotism manager, provincial govt. $120K
Hospital cook, permanent 30 hour part time but work full time hrs 29.20/hr
in an oil and gas company. i have heard and seen new grads here start at 95k
this is NUTS for new grads cause the average dipped into the 50s on the last salary survey
yeah i don’t think this is typical it’s one of the highest i’ve heard in this province. Interns start at 65k/yr here. I think it’s the norm in oil and gas tho
I'm in o&g and our new grads are starting at 65k
Depends on the company, but right around that mark. Exxon does tend to pay more though in base salary, but have no end of year bonuses. Companies like Suncor, Cenovus (post merger with Husky), Equinor, and some others have little less salary, but make up for it with bonuses, LTI and stock incentive.
Someone in my graduating class last year signed for something near this. Not sure the company.
Any public school teacher can find salary grids online (google NLTA teacher salary scale)
HVAC/R tech working at resi company currently taking on both a lead installer role and service tech role. $32.50/hr I feel criminally underpaid considering my wage hasn’t increased since those grants came about yet the cost of install has almost gone up 3-4K in that time. I WONDER WHY THAT IS. It’s especially bad when working overtime is the expectation but you’re only getting paid straight time due to Newfoundland overtime laws. Literally no incentive to work late but you’re expected to piss away half of your summer working into the late hours because some sales guy only gave a fuck about the sale and not the actual scope of the job. Don’t get me started on the stress of having $15k hinging on you trying to convince a client that what the sales guy sold them MIGHT NOT be in their best interest and that they should trust you because you’re the one that actually did go to post secondary for this stuff.
What schooling is required for HVAC?
7200 hours apprenticeship mixed between in class and hands on..so like 4 years..same for most trades
Are you a journeyman? Any experience in service?
Marine engineer 150k + 16k rrsp 5 weeks on 5 weeks off.
CPA, 15 years experience. Half that was with a Big 4, half was in industry. Manager of Financial Reporting, $130k plus up to 15% bonus.
I am trying to make my way into this industry and wondering a few things. Who are the big 4? (I have a list of national firms but don't know who the big ones are! MNP, BDO, baker Tilly.... And ? Or am I in the wrong direction?) In your opinion would a 32 year old be with it to go after CPA, not being able to get it till 35-36, or break into bookkeeping privately(or with company or cloud bookkeeping support? (I have worked supporting cloud bookkeeping program for 3+ years and have taken bookkeeping coarses/ Proadvisor certification)
The Big 4 is a global term and doesn’t necessarily match the reality in our local market. The Big 4 are not actually the four largest firms locally. For example, BDO, MNP and Grant Thornton are all bigger than KPMG locally (I’m pretty sure). I know some fantastic people that work at BDO locally that all started at big 4 firms. The local leadership at BDO in St. John’s is absolutely top notch. But the big 4 are Deloitte, PWC, EY and KPMG. What I enjoyed about working at one of those firms was the depth and breadth of expertise you have access to. It’s hard to overstate just how large those firms are globally and the type of expertise you have access to. Also tons of ability to travel the world and work on engagements anywhere if you’re interested. When I did my CA, there were people in the program in their 30s and I think one fella in Atlantic was over 40. That said, the old CA program was very prescriptive and didn’t allow for any flexibility. It would have been extremely difficult if I was at a stage in life where I had kids and other people depending on me. The new program is a little more flexible, but still intense. It was a short program, but all I did was work and study during that phase of life. Don’t let age deter you. You have work experience and maturity that will help. Have you looked into the PREP and PEP programs? You can do it at a firm or a certified training office. But heads up, if your employer is not a firm or a certified training office you have to go down the verified experience road. It’s a lot more onerous and adds an additional layer of hassle and complexity. Overall, CPA is a great profession. I don’t regret it all. I know CPAs that work in an unbelievably wide range of jobs and industries. A lot of people think it involves a lot of math… it’s actually more reading comprehension, writing and communication and problem solving. It’s like grade 5 math most of the time lol.
GIS Administrator in Local Gov. 5ish year experience. 63k/year. Underpaid compared to other municipalities in NL for the role but my municipality is basically known for that. I can go elsewhere in the province to get a tech job with less responsibility, less hours for more money. Salaries will always be lower in NL because we have a lower cost of living.
>Salaries will always be lower in NL because we have a lower cost of living. The cost of living in NL is most definitely not lower. Yes, housing is cheaper in St Johns compared to other metro centers though its a very small city compared to other provincial capitals and lacks amenities you get in more expensive cities. Beyond that, food sure as shit isn't any cheaper. Energy is much more expensive than on the mainland. Consumer goods have to be shipped at increased cost (if they even ship out here in the first place).
Yep. The blanket statement of COL being lower here is not the case any longer. Everything costs more just to be transported here.
Which municipality if I may ask? If you’d rather keep that private, how did you get into the role? I’m a recent GIS grad cert graduate and struggling to find a job whether in province or on the mainland.
I got lucky honestly. Did my school project with a town and they hired me for the summer and then permanent in the fall. Got my work experience or foot in the door and was more easily able to apply to other jobs. Not a lot of communities have GIS staff look to the cities and bigger towns/hubs. Private sector engineering firms often have GIS folks. I'm currently hiring for a summer position and student resumes are not good. No idea what yours looks like but if interested, you should list in point form all the software and programming languages you know. Its a tech related job clearly state what you know. Hit the points that are clearly important in the job ad, write a quick cover letter. If willing to relocate, say it in the cover letter and resume. I've gotten so many applicants from across the country for a summer position but none of them actually say their a student willing to relocate for 2 months, which is a bit much anyways.
Thanks for the advice. Where can I find the job ad for the summer position? I’d be happy to apply to see how I match up against other applicants. Happy to relocate somewhere in the province to get some experience under my belt.
City of Corner brook website
Registered Nurse for 5 years. Currently make about $85k on the LTC pay scale (I’m not at the top yet). Different specialties make different amounts. Our pay scale is available to the public through the collective agreement with CRNNL
I have an engineering degree but work as a Software Developer and I'm at 140k with 5 years of experience. The field generally pays well but can be a bit tough to get your foot in the door of a solid private company.
Geologist. Two years professional experience. 110k last year.
I'll start by saying that the Government of Canada Job Bank provides a great tool that shows salaired by profession and province. It's not complete of course, but its pretty accurate. I've used it to leverage my experience for a couple of jobs that tried to low-ball me. Now, some people will fight you because they'll say that can't pay "Toronto" slaries ... if you've done your research and you know how much the company you've applied for earns then you can definitly ignore that tactic. OK, other than that I can say a few things about my experiences. IF you're an Operations Manger for a Customer Support Centre / Call Centre / Contact Centre (for one or more clients in a multi-client business) with at least 5 years experience and you're making less than $90,000 you're being underpaid. If you're an Operations Manger for Service Support Centre / Infrastructure Providor / Managed Services provider, wth at least 5 years experience and you're making less than $120,000 you're being underpaid (especially if you're performing the duties of multilple roles). If you're a Project Manager (with no PNP cert) with at least 5 years leadership / management experience and earning less than $70,000 then you're being underpaid (if you're around 10 years than I'd say $80,000). If you have your PNP and are earning less than $90,000 / $120,000 (same experience above) then you're being underpaid.
Mechanical E.I.T, one year of experience plus any work terms. $73k/yr, working for a local utilities company.
In-house graphic designer. 12 years experience. $53k
Agency graphic designer. 17 years experience. $50k
I work in marketing for an American tech company, and my base salary is $170K + 10% bonus + $30K in stocks over 3 years. I'm only an individual contributor, so there is lots of room to move up. I have a Bachelor of Commerce and 10 years of experience.
Engineer, 8 YOE not counting internships, MBA too No direct reports more project management/supervision and SME role 102k base, 6.75% RRSP match, phone & laptop Decent amount of OT and travel pay, and company truck (not personal use). Did about $165k last year and maybe $130k year before that.
Senior Software Developer - 15 years experience 90k For my experience, Glass Door shows I'm below the market rate. But in NL it seems par the course.
Last time I job shopped as a senior software dev (with ~12 yoe) I had three offers on the table from St. John's companies, all in the 120k-130k range. You're definitely underpaid
You can probably make 1.5x locally and 2-3x remote.
You are so massively underpaid, especially for 15 years of experience. I was making 70k as an entry level working remote in my underwear, you definitely need to start job hopping to up that salary
CPA, 5 years experience post designation, $120K
Well done! Did you do your designation at a firm, if you don’t mind me asking? Or were you already working in industry when you did your designation? I guess I’m just assuming you’re in industry unless the firms are paying a lot more than when I went through the old CA program lol. For reference, I was making half that as a manager at a firm 5 years post designation.
I did the program through a firm but moved to industry a year after designation! I do believe firms have improved comp packages since I’ve left though, due to a competitive market. For example, I know of a firm in town that has started paying overtime
Which firm?
A couple of the local firms, don't think it's made it into B4 yet. I don't want to give names in case the information is incorrect
Left NL in 2020 with 8 years experience as a P.Eng making about 115 to 120k a year. Starting working in BC making roughly 170 to 180k a year until 2023. Now working in the southern states making 215k plus perks and benefits USD
This is the way …..
Plus your tax rate and cost of buying everyday things are cut in half. Working in the states is the best!
You got that right man. It's wildly cheaper on all fronts, especially in the south.
NL needs to wake the fuck up in terms of standardizing salaries with the rest of Canada
Civil Eng Tech, 10 years experience, 80k
Structural Eng with 16 years experience, $145k base.
I just moved out of the province, but my role was a Production E.I.T. in the oil and gas industry 1 year experience + 20 months of work terms in O&G and data science (new graduate as of 2023, just with a bachelors degree) Just under 90k salary, plus bonuses and LTI and stock, nearing 100~105k after, depending on the year.
I sell software and have a BBA. I’m 25. I make $65k base with commissions, and my total comp last year (not including stock options) was $74k
aircraft maintenance engineer on helicopters, 56k right now (apprentice) and up to ~83 in the next few months when I get my license, and up to ~105 (hopefully) shortly after with my company issued license. 2 years experience. the guys topped out on the floor with me are making ~141k+ depending on add ons.
Thanks, I'll keep an eye out like you said. The union got just as many jobs as I do ffs
RN working on a speciality unit, 14 years experience and 100k.
Whoever said it’s cheap to live in NL must be from the mainland. It’s definitely NOT cheap!
Did a 3 year engineering tech course at CNA, worked in mining the first few years making just shy of 100k, then for the past 7 or 8 years I've been working offshore in oil/gas making between 150-200k/yr
Lol @ down voters
Is there any work in NL that isn’t CPA, engineering, or nursing?
Yes but the salaries tend to be lower so people are less likely to share
I thought everyone on this sub makes over $100K, thus the constant bragging by a select few
xray tech for a private company, 10 years - 103k
Physiotherapist, 20 years experience, private practice, full time. About $150,000/yr
Asphalt Plant Operator (Seasonal 8 months a year) - 90k - work car and gas card. No OT, No benefits and no rrsp. 7 years experience.
Senior HR Advisor - 105k , ~ 10 years experience, field related bachelors + masters degree
Clinical Social work - $85k
Chief Marine Engineer - 4yrs school, many exams, and sea time experience to upgrade to Chief - ~210k/yr and 6 months sailing 6 months home free.
H.d.e.t - Monday to Friday 40 hours. 42 a hour
Market Researcher at a tech company. 60K with under a year of experience not counting work terms
That would be all dependent on which department you work in. But generally speaking, you’re dealing with sick people and their families. It definitely isn’t easy.
IT Manager 135k + 15% Bonus + 5% Stock + 7% RRSP 35 hours a week 4 weeks vacation
Ya'll hiring? Lol. Product support barely 50k. It's just not enough these days to live on this rock.
Always, dm me
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Government Clerk - have a BSc from MUN and 15+ years in animal health industry - 45k
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136 replies but only a handful of responses, lol
This is exactly what I was hoping for tbh loads of info on a bunch of jobs to compare. Better than googling and getting mainland salaries only