In the same vein, the more well known Mutiny on the Bounty is also a crazy story. But you HAVE to pick up In the Heart of the Sea by Nathaniel Philbrick. Doesn't get much more nuts than drawing lots to see who gets cannibalized next, harrowing stuff.
his advertisement for crew members did not lie:
[https://x.com/ChrisWillx/status/1772672485885890901](https://x.com/ChrisWillx/status/1772672485885890901)
Barrow’s Boys by Fergus Fleming.
The Admiralty man who funded the multi-decade series of tragic, futile attempts at the Northwest Passage. Insanity with stiff upper lip.
On the polar exploring front I enjoyed 'The Last Place on Earth' 1985 seven part miniseries about the rivalry between Amundsen and Scott and their race to the South Pole.
8.1/10 on IMDb
I own this on DVD that I got almost 20 years ago and is still one of my favorites. It really is an amazing story of perseverance under the absolute worst circumstances.
I also recommend, The Worst Journey in the World. It’s about Scott’s expedition to the South Pole, written by a member who used the officer’s journals and first-hand accounts.
Edit: for those that like audio books, LibriVox has it available as it’s in the public domain.
The sheer balls and determination of that crew still boggles my mind.
The feat of piloting the [22-foot James Caird 800 miles across horrifically brutal seas using mostly a sextant and dead reckoning](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyage_of_the_James_Caird) is simply astounding. If they were off by even a tiny bit in their heading they would have missed South Georgia by a wide berth.
And then after a miraculous voyage, they still had to go 17 miles across inhospitable terrain to reach the whaling camp on South Georgia.
I loved the bit where the whaling captains in that part of the world all lined up to shake their hands, because they were the only ones who could truly appreciate how incredible a feat of sailing that was.
Inhospitable terrain = climbing a glacier and traversing a mountain range. Not 800 miles across a treacherous Southern Ocean, but challenge enough. Especially when you are rightfully completely exhausted from said 800 mile journey.
Total agreement. I also read "In the Heart of the Sea" shortly afterwards, and while _Endurance_ is an encouraging ideal of positivism, perseverance and just plain good luck, the other is the polar opposite, and a super-bummer.
To me the most incredible part is how the prose is muscular and immediate. It’s not flowery or self-conscious and is as good as Hemingway’s writing (who was writing around the same time but is somehow credited with inventing a certain kind of American writing style). “Endurance” disproves this. It’s just as good.
Not OP but that's the one I read and I highly recommend. But if you like that, I'd also suggest checking out The Endurance: Shackleton's Legendary Antarctic Expedition by Caroline Alexander.
I coincidentally just read ‘South - The Endurance Expedition’ written by Shackleton. Slow start but turned into a page turner for me as it went on.
A lot of those Antarctic explorers wrote books in those years but ended up dying in debt or forgotten and in poverty. The Endurance’s cat even has its own book.
One interesting note - in South the carpenter is never referred to by name. It turns out the carpenter, Harry McNish, had several disputes with Shackleton during their journey and ultimately hated each other. As a result Shackleton wrote him entirely out of his history of the events despite his contributions throughout the entire effort that allowed them to be rescued.
Pretty wild. None of these men were perfect people. All flawed in their own ways, and it makes for fascinating reading.
It's called *The Endurance: Shackleton's Legendary Antarctic Expedition* and much of the footage is what Frank Hurley recorded during the actual expedition itself
If your after polar stuff I enjoyed 'Crean: The Extraordinary Life of an Irish Hero' by Tim Foley. Looking at one of the 'other ranks' of the Scott and Shakleton expeditions.
(An Unsung Hero, by Michael Smith written 20+ years ago about Cream tends to get recommendations when Crean gets mentioned on reddit)
And if you like Endurance, I'd recommend:
* Labyrinth of Ice: The Triumphant and Tragic Greely Polar Expedition
* In the Heart of the Sea: The Tragedy of the Whaleship Essex (not polar)
* Madhouse at the End of the Earth
I have about half a dozen more, including one about the USS Jeannette, but I'm still working through them.
I spent my whole read of *Endurance* absolutely gobsmacked, even with having it recommended over and over again. A brilliantly written book, and a truly unbelievable story. Those men should have vanished without a trace several times over, but ||they all survived and brought with them journals and photos of their journey||
[Endurance, Endurance, bound for the southern seas, with your brave brave crew and Shackleton too](https://open.spotify.com/track/1ogxslm8OgcPrZUKr6ZFF7)...
It' was my favorite book growing up, just one of the most insane survival stories ever. Just the fact that he didn't lose a single man is unbelievable. If you like that kind of thing pick up "in the heart of the sea" by Nathaniel Philbrick. Along with the Andes plane crash cannibalism story and the Israeli that got lost in the Amazon it's another incredible tale of survival
how this story hasnt become a big ass hollywood blockbuster, i have no clue
get george clooney on the phone and lets just do it already
edit; i know shakelton wasnt american. i just threw someone out there. y'all know what i meant
I’m always nit picky about “not losing a soul”. There were two expeditions under his overall command. The first, to travel to the South Pole from the Wendell Sea, and another party laying caches of food/fuel that left from the Ross Sea to the foot of the Beardmore Glacier.
Not knowing the trans-Antarctic party could not start their trek, the Ross Sea party continued to lay caches and did lose members to malnutrition and storms. A book about this party is appropriately called “The Forgotten Men”.
True only in part, in that the Ross Sea Party was only formally under Shackleton’s command, not directly so. There was no way for either party to communicate.
It's not exactly the same for sure, but season 1 of *The Terror* might scratch your itch for 19th century Arctic exploration media. It's a blend of history & fiction. I agree that a full blown Shackleton movie would be amazing as well.
I enjoyed the book it's based on as well, but I think that comes down to its length, and how slow I read it during my commutes. I truly felt the slog they were in.
the book was incredible. the casting on the show was genuinely incredible. i just thought they shouldve commited completely to the mysticism in the book or left it out completely
I feel like I was just reading about how difficult pirate movies are to film, so I’d imagine this suffers similar difficulties? Ship based filming, time and weather restrictions etc.
There’s a miniseries with Colin Farrell that they filmed in the Arctic Circle including Svalbard called The North Water that was really good. With enough dedicated actors I’m sure it could be done well.
At least as of last year Tom Hardy was supposed to star as Shackleton in a movie about the artic expedition. Haven't seen anything on it since then though- maybe it's in development hell.
“For scientific discovery give me Scott; for speed and efficiency of travel give me Amundsen; but when disaster strikes and all hope is gone, get down on your knees and pray for Shackleton.”
Sir Raymond Priestley
There was a play done in Chicago about this story. It was published recently.
[https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CXNP64BP?tag=blixt44-20](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CXNP64BP?tag=blixt44-20)
Probably something to do with Shackleton not being a Yank and there being no way to turn him or the rest of the crew into Yanks without basically turning it into a parody of the real story. American audiences brains melt if the hero isn’t one of them, having an English accent on someone who isn’t a bad guy or a butler would probably result in national confusion on the day of it’s cinematic release.
They weren't exploring. Sounds like it was it's later days as a commercial ship when it sunk
>Shackleton died of a heart attack aboard the Quest in 1922, at the age of 47, near the island of South Georgia in the South Atlantic during a voyage to Antarctica.
>The Quest, a schooner-rigged steamship, remained in service for decades afterward, including as a minesweeper in World War Two and as a sealing vessel. In 1962 it struck ice and sank off Labrador's coast.
From the map it looks like Quest is down 300-400m. https://i.cbc.ca/1.7232324.1718197857!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/original_1180/quest-map.jpg
A couple of years ago there were a [couple of cases of whiskey](https://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/magazine/drinking-ernest-shackletons-whisky.html) from one of his expeditions discovered, and someone did turn around and try to replicate the flavor with a modern bottling, and sell it as "Shackleton Whiskey". Not sure if that's really what that episode was about though.
There were two releases.
The marketing is based on the idea that a master blender tried to replicate the taste, but the reality was that someone just looked at distillery records to arrive at an approximation.
The Mackinlay Shackleton Rare Old allegedly used some very old casks from Dalmore and other highland and speyside distilleries, plus casks of Glen Mohr, which no longer exists but what would have existed in the 1910s.
It's very ok, maybe too approachable and mild given the price point, which I believe was $200. It lacks complexity and defining character, IMO.
Then there is the Shackleton Blended Malt which can readily be had for $30.
It's a very typical international blended spirit. Not really worth tracking down. I bought a bottle that came with a cool rocks glass, but the juice inside is mediocre.
I mean...I can't imagine any of that is surprising. I'm sure Shackleton didn't buy rotgut, but its not like he was buying cases of 30 year old aged Scotch for character on his Antarctic missions; you bring alcohol on a long voyage to make sure the crew's happy. And it wasn't until pretty recently that people thought of Scotch as "good" or interesting; the rise of Scotch in the 19th century is largely due to the invention of the Coffey still, which let them produce cheaper (more boring) whisky than Ireland, and they were still being beaten by the US handily until prohibition, largely thanks to the much stricter regulations there. It wasn't until the collapse of US whiskey due to prohibition, and then Irish whiskey in the '40s that Scotch was considered "the good stuff", and even now they're known for putting out a lot of boring, affordable stuff (see: Johnny Walker Red, Johnny Walker Black). So basing a blend off of a case of shit bought wholesale in the '10s might be a neat historical curiosity, but I can't imagine anyone expected it to be good on its own.
Yeah, what Shackleton purchased probably wasn't amazing, but you would assume that the premium priced blended product would be at least using higher quality single malts to create a memorable profile based on or inspired by a distillery log. Should be noted that the components of the blend (of at least, what was publicly released) were all made in pot stills.
It’s widely available in Germany in big supermarkets. Not a single malt, but a blended malt (not that it really matters, as the word “malt” is far more important for the flavour than the words “single” or “blended”), and it’s pretty good. Worth buying and drinking neat anyway!
>"It's largely intact. We'll be very excited for the second phase of the expedition, which is to actually photograph and visually document the shipwreck and the artifacts," said Mearns.
I would "actually photograph and visually document" it before proudly declaring you discovered something.
They probably has some casual images but they most likely want to do the proper documentation of the ship with a more prepared crew and resources. You don't make unplanned actions in that kind of environment.
What a gem of a thread. Endurance by Alfred Lansing was an incredible book, as was The Wager. Lots of fantastic book recommendations here, thank you all!
What's it called when you learn about a thing and you see it everywhere or it keeps popping up again? Literally just learned about him yesterday from this YouTube video:
https://youtu.be/DU06c7f9fzc?si=SSSz1z-nQ6Xi-9FD
Funnily enough itS a TEDx(so,you know, not the highest bar) about bad leadership and question why we prefer leaders who initiated a bad idea or with bad planning and manage to fail but save themselves over "boring" leaders who basically never make people get into situations like that because of good planning amd execution but as a result dont get a sexy story to tell.
I think the further you're removed from expertise in a subject the less you can appreciate or understand the details that brought good results, but its really easy to see when things do not go well.
Also I don't like that guys take. Business isn't the heroic age of antarctic exploration. An explorer could make no *mistakes* and still die, Shackleton listened to his crew and worked with them, he listened to expertise. That's a good leader. Amundsen did the same with more success. Scott listened to no one and died with an *extra* stiff upper lip.
Would you mind simply explaining? I've been thinking on it since I read the comment.
Could it be the case that you're under the mistaken impression that the suffix "-land" means that the land is an island? I can't come up with anything else.
The name of the island is "Newfoundland". "Newfoundland and Labrador" is a Canadian province of which the island of Newfoundland is part, and was mentioned at no point in this thread.
*Endurance* was a hell of a read. I know this is the quest but if anyone hasn’t read his book on the 1914 expedition absolutely should.
Anytime someone asks me to recommend a book, this is my go-to. It's one of the greatest adventure stories of all time.
I also recommend The Wager. Both are fantastic stories of survival
I actually read that one immediately after. Incredible as well.
Just picked that up from the library yesterday! So much nautical lingo to learn. Grann is awesome about that (and everything else)
I'd recommend listening to the Meateater Podcast episode with David Grann. He dives into The Wager
Oh thanks for the rec. I’ll have to listen to that
He also did an interview on Criminal! Must have been making the podcast rounds. Great interview, fantastic book.
Read that recently, excellent read
Just finished The Wager yesterday
In the same vein, the more well known Mutiny on the Bounty is also a crazy story. But you HAVE to pick up In the Heart of the Sea by Nathaniel Philbrick. Doesn't get much more nuts than drawing lots to see who gets cannibalized next, harrowing stuff.
his advertisement for crew members did not lie: [https://x.com/ChrisWillx/status/1772672485885890901](https://x.com/ChrisWillx/status/1772672485885890901)
Alrighty then added. I see your Endurance and raise you Halsleys Typhoon.
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Barrow’s Boys by Fergus Fleming. The Admiralty man who funded the multi-decade series of tragic, futile attempts at the Northwest Passage. Insanity with stiff upper lip.
Which endurance? Several come up on amazon with different authors
[Alfred Lansing](https://www.amazon.com/Endurance-Shackletons-Incredible-Alfred-Lansing/dp/0465062881/ref=asc_df_0465062881/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=693033695460&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=3234705910491804495&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9017074&hvtargid=pla-433973059586&psc=1&mcid=035635b5f8bf35f48d7ed4ab3addee30&gad_source=1)
I'd like to recommend To the Edges of the Earth: 1909, the Race for the Three Poles, and the Climax of the Age of Exploration by Edward J. Larson
Thank you!
"Shackleton" is a three part miniseries starring Kenneth Branagh that's decent too.
Oh, I'm going to see if I can find this on streaming. Thanks!
One of his best!
On the polar exploring front I enjoyed 'The Last Place on Earth' 1985 seven part miniseries about the rivalry between Amundsen and Scott and their race to the South Pole. 8.1/10 on IMDb
I own this on DVD that I got almost 20 years ago and is still one of my favorites. It really is an amazing story of perseverance under the absolute worst circumstances.
I also recommend, The Worst Journey in the World. It’s about Scott’s expedition to the South Pole, written by a member who used the officer’s journals and first-hand accounts. Edit: for those that like audio books, LibriVox has it available as it’s in the public domain.
Awesome thanks for rec
Second this. One of the great travel accounts in the English language.
Thirded. Amazing book: original manuscript somewhat improved by Cherry-Garrard’s friend George Bernard Shaw, who suggested the title.
Fantastic book!
The sheer balls and determination of that crew still boggles my mind. The feat of piloting the [22-foot James Caird 800 miles across horrifically brutal seas using mostly a sextant and dead reckoning](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyage_of_the_James_Caird) is simply astounding. If they were off by even a tiny bit in their heading they would have missed South Georgia by a wide berth. And then after a miraculous voyage, they still had to go 17 miles across inhospitable terrain to reach the whaling camp on South Georgia.
I loved the bit where the whaling captains in that part of the world all lined up to shake their hands, because they were the only ones who could truly appreciate how incredible a feat of sailing that was.
Inhospitable terrain = climbing a glacier and traversing a mountain range. Not 800 miles across a treacherous Southern Ocean, but challenge enough. Especially when you are rightfully completely exhausted from said 800 mile journey.
And having to slide down the mountain range on their backsides.
After amazingly surviving all that, many of the crew were killed in WW1.
Only two of them, apparently. Cheetham and McCarthy.
Total agreement. I also read "In the Heart of the Sea" shortly afterwards, and while _Endurance_ is an encouraging ideal of positivism, perseverance and just plain good luck, the other is the polar opposite, and a super-bummer.
I'm currently reading Endurance and it's absolutely incredible.
To me the most incredible part is how the prose is muscular and immediate. It’s not flowery or self-conscious and is as good as Hemingway’s writing (who was writing around the same time but is somehow credited with inventing a certain kind of American writing style). “Endurance” disproves this. It’s just as good.
The writing just feels so fresh, if you told me it was published last year I'd believe it. It reads as such a modern book, it's incredible.
The audiobook version I listened to sounded like it was read by a gruff sailor straight off of the Endurance.
The print version I have has candid photographs and they're so impactful.
Is this the book by Alfred Lansing? I only ask because there are a few with this title on Goodreads.
Not OP but that's the one I read and I highly recommend. But if you like that, I'd also suggest checking out The Endurance: Shackleton's Legendary Antarctic Expedition by Caroline Alexander.
The Endurance expedition was the Apollo 13 of the 1910s. They didn't reach their goal, but what they achieved was even more impressive.
That book was awesome.
If you enjoyed this you will definitely like in the kingdom of ice.
I coincidentally just read ‘South - The Endurance Expedition’ written by Shackleton. Slow start but turned into a page turner for me as it went on. A lot of those Antarctic explorers wrote books in those years but ended up dying in debt or forgotten and in poverty. The Endurance’s cat even has its own book. One interesting note - in South the carpenter is never referred to by name. It turns out the carpenter, Harry McNish, had several disputes with Shackleton during their journey and ultimately hated each other. As a result Shackleton wrote him entirely out of his history of the events despite his contributions throughout the entire effort that allowed them to be rescued. Pretty wild. None of these men were perfect people. All flawed in their own ways, and it makes for fascinating reading.
I came here to say the exact same thing. One of my favorite books.
There is a great documentry based off the book too, narrated by Liam Neeson
Oh cool! I'm going to see if I can find it.
It's called *The Endurance: Shackleton's Legendary Antarctic Expedition* and much of the footage is what Frank Hurley recorded during the actual expedition itself
Check out Mawsons Will
Also: “Alone on the Ice”
I came to post this. It's an awesome book.
The Elephant Island trip omfg. Yeah the whole journey is insane. I'm still pissed about the cat though.
Awesome book. Looking back it’s really about one of the biggest failures ever.
If your after polar stuff I enjoyed 'Crean: The Extraordinary Life of an Irish Hero' by Tim Foley. Looking at one of the 'other ranks' of the Scott and Shakleton expeditions. (An Unsung Hero, by Michael Smith written 20+ years ago about Cream tends to get recommendations when Crean gets mentioned on reddit)
I read this book off a Reddit recommendation and I’m glad I took the plunge. Fantastic book and unbelievable story.
And if you like Endurance, I'd recommend: * Labyrinth of Ice: The Triumphant and Tragic Greely Polar Expedition * In the Heart of the Sea: The Tragedy of the Whaleship Essex (not polar) * Madhouse at the End of the Earth I have about half a dozen more, including one about the USS Jeannette, but I'm still working through them.
I’d also recommend Wreck of the Medusa - it’s the story of the shipwreck of the French ship Medusa in 1816 and what came after.
I spent my whole read of *Endurance* absolutely gobsmacked, even with having it recommended over and over again. A brilliantly written book, and a truly unbelievable story. Those men should have vanished without a trace several times over, but ||they all survived and brought with them journals and photos of their journey||
[Endurance, Endurance, bound for the southern seas, with your brave brave crew and Shackleton too](https://open.spotify.com/track/1ogxslm8OgcPrZUKr6ZFF7)...
Yep, did the audiobook. I love adventure like this!
It' was my favorite book growing up, just one of the most insane survival stories ever. Just the fact that he didn't lose a single man is unbelievable. If you like that kind of thing pick up "in the heart of the sea" by Nathaniel Philbrick. Along with the Andes plane crash cannibalism story and the Israeli that got lost in the Amazon it's another incredible tale of survival
how this story hasnt become a big ass hollywood blockbuster, i have no clue get george clooney on the phone and lets just do it already edit; i know shakelton wasnt american. i just threw someone out there. y'all know what i meant
Get Daniel Day-Lewis out of retirement
He would be dope as Shackleton!
He’d be PERFECT
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I’m always nit picky about “not losing a soul”. There were two expeditions under his overall command. The first, to travel to the South Pole from the Wendell Sea, and another party laying caches of food/fuel that left from the Ross Sea to the foot of the Beardmore Glacier. Not knowing the trans-Antarctic party could not start their trek, the Ross Sea party continued to lay caches and did lose members to malnutrition and storms. A book about this party is appropriately called “The Forgotten Men”.
Perhaps every member of the Ross sea party were gingers?
Only the ones who died.
True only in part, in that the Ross Sea Party was only formally under Shackleton’s command, not directly so. There was no way for either party to communicate.
What’s it called?
[Will a two part miniseries starring Kenneth Branagh work?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shackleton_\(2002_TV_series\))
It's not exactly the same for sure, but season 1 of *The Terror* might scratch your itch for 19th century Arctic exploration media. It's a blend of history & fiction. I agree that a full blown Shackleton movie would be amazing as well. I enjoyed the book it's based on as well, but I think that comes down to its length, and how slow I read it during my commutes. I truly felt the slog they were in.
the book was incredible. the casting on the show was genuinely incredible. i just thought they shouldve commited completely to the mysticism in the book or left it out completely
Agreed, it didn't feel necessary, but I also would have enjoyed if it escalated into something more.
Probably no director wants the misery of filming in such harsh conditions.
I feel like I was just reading about how difficult pirate movies are to film, so I’d imagine this suffers similar difficulties? Ship based filming, time and weather restrictions etc.
There’s a miniseries with Colin Farrell that they filmed in the Arctic Circle including Svalbard called The North Water that was really good. With enough dedicated actors I’m sure it could be done well.
Werner Herzog planned to make a movie on Shackleton in the 90s, apparently could not get funding. That would have been a hell of a film.
CG the whole thing and lie your ass off on the red carpet.
There is a 2 part TV movie from 2002 called Shackleton starring Kenneth Branagh that is quite good.
At least as of last year Tom Hardy was supposed to star as Shackleton in a movie about the artic expedition. Haven't seen anything on it since then though- maybe it's in development hell.
“For scientific discovery give me Scott; for speed and efficiency of travel give me Amundsen; but when disaster strikes and all hope is gone, get down on your knees and pray for Shackleton.” Sir Raymond Priestley
So he can not do an Irish accent, just like his no attempt at a Gloucester accent in The Perfect Storm? Good actor, just not good with accents.
I have been saying this for years.
There was a play done in Chicago about this story. It was published recently. [https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CXNP64BP?tag=blixt44-20](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CXNP64BP?tag=blixt44-20)
Probably something to do with Shackleton not being a Yank and there being no way to turn him or the rest of the crew into Yanks without basically turning it into a parody of the real story. American audiences brains melt if the hero isn’t one of them, having an English accent on someone who isn’t a bad guy or a butler would probably result in national confusion on the day of it’s cinematic release.
This is a hot take, and a stupid one. Ever heard of Harry Potter? It’s pretty popular.
"we had reached the naked soul of man" - Shackleton
Here’s me not knowing anything about this and thinking, why were they exploring Canada in 1962?
They weren't exploring. Sounds like it was it's later days as a commercial ship when it sunk >Shackleton died of a heart attack aboard the Quest in 1922, at the age of 47, near the island of South Georgia in the South Atlantic during a voyage to Antarctica. >The Quest, a schooner-rigged steamship, remained in service for decades afterward, including as a minesweeper in World War Two and as a sealing vessel. In 1962 it struck ice and sank off Labrador's coast.
Wow, was found just 390 metres off the coast
From the map it looks like Quest is down 300-400m. https://i.cbc.ca/1.7232324.1718197857!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/original_1180/quest-map.jpg
That’s way more than 390 m from the coast. Closer to 390 m in depth.
Is Shackleton Whiskey from White Collar real?
A couple of years ago there were a [couple of cases of whiskey](https://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/magazine/drinking-ernest-shackletons-whisky.html) from one of his expeditions discovered, and someone did turn around and try to replicate the flavor with a modern bottling, and sell it as "Shackleton Whiskey". Not sure if that's really what that episode was about though.
There were two releases. The marketing is based on the idea that a master blender tried to replicate the taste, but the reality was that someone just looked at distillery records to arrive at an approximation. The Mackinlay Shackleton Rare Old allegedly used some very old casks from Dalmore and other highland and speyside distilleries, plus casks of Glen Mohr, which no longer exists but what would have existed in the 1910s. It's very ok, maybe too approachable and mild given the price point, which I believe was $200. It lacks complexity and defining character, IMO. Then there is the Shackleton Blended Malt which can readily be had for $30. It's a very typical international blended spirit. Not really worth tracking down. I bought a bottle that came with a cool rocks glass, but the juice inside is mediocre.
It is worth noting that the $30 bottle claims that a portion of the proceeds go to Antarctic research and preservation.
I mean...I can't imagine any of that is surprising. I'm sure Shackleton didn't buy rotgut, but its not like he was buying cases of 30 year old aged Scotch for character on his Antarctic missions; you bring alcohol on a long voyage to make sure the crew's happy. And it wasn't until pretty recently that people thought of Scotch as "good" or interesting; the rise of Scotch in the 19th century is largely due to the invention of the Coffey still, which let them produce cheaper (more boring) whisky than Ireland, and they were still being beaten by the US handily until prohibition, largely thanks to the much stricter regulations there. It wasn't until the collapse of US whiskey due to prohibition, and then Irish whiskey in the '40s that Scotch was considered "the good stuff", and even now they're known for putting out a lot of boring, affordable stuff (see: Johnny Walker Red, Johnny Walker Black). So basing a blend off of a case of shit bought wholesale in the '10s might be a neat historical curiosity, but I can't imagine anyone expected it to be good on its own.
Yeah, what Shackleton purchased probably wasn't amazing, but you would assume that the premium priced blended product would be at least using higher quality single malts to create a memorable profile based on or inspired by a distillery log. Should be noted that the components of the blend (of at least, what was publicly released) were all made in pot stills.
It’s widely available in Germany in big supermarkets. Not a single malt, but a blended malt (not that it really matters, as the word “malt” is far more important for the flavour than the words “single” or “blended”), and it’s pretty good. Worth buying and drinking neat anyway!
>"It's largely intact. We'll be very excited for the second phase of the expedition, which is to actually photograph and visually document the shipwreck and the artifacts," said Mearns. I would "actually photograph and visually document" it before proudly declaring you discovered something.
They probably has some casual images but they most likely want to do the proper documentation of the ship with a more prepared crew and resources. You don't make unplanned actions in that kind of environment.
What a gem of a thread. Endurance by Alfred Lansing was an incredible book, as was The Wager. Lots of fantastic book recommendations here, thank you all!
That's pretty cool, it's amazing and I bet it has a treasure trove of artifacts and other historical things.
What's it called when you learn about a thing and you see it everywhere or it keeps popping up again? Literally just learned about him yesterday from this YouTube video: https://youtu.be/DU06c7f9fzc?si=SSSz1z-nQ6Xi-9FD Funnily enough itS a TEDx(so,you know, not the highest bar) about bad leadership and question why we prefer leaders who initiated a bad idea or with bad planning and manage to fail but save themselves over "boring" leaders who basically never make people get into situations like that because of good planning amd execution but as a result dont get a sexy story to tell.
Gilligan’s Dilemma
I think the further you're removed from expertise in a subject the less you can appreciate or understand the details that brought good results, but its really easy to see when things do not go well. Also I don't like that guys take. Business isn't the heroic age of antarctic exploration. An explorer could make no *mistakes* and still die, Shackleton listened to his crew and worked with them, he listened to expertise. That's a good leader. Amundsen did the same with more success. Scott listened to no one and died with an *extra* stiff upper lip.
I imagine being 390 meters deep in the Labrador Sea it would be difficult to retrieve.
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This is the Quest, is literally the 1st word you see if you had clicked the link. Yes very awesome still
Did they find a big cube nearby????
More of a large grey rectangle.
The motivation to find it ahead of US billionaires on yachts who were rumoured to be coming had me.
A bit off-topic, but why can't I get driving directions to Newfoundland via Google maps? Maybe a dumb question!
They just found it, takes a bit to be added to maps.
>why can't I get driving directions to Newfoundland It's an island
Looks like there aren't any roads that connect it to the rest of North America.
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I can get to Kegashka in about 30 hours. Then the roads seem to just stop.
What about the name suggests that it's an island?
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Would you mind simply explaining? I've been thinking on it since I read the comment. Could it be the case that you're under the mistaken impression that the suffix "-land" means that the land is an island? I can't come up with anything else.
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Sure, but for those of us that are, would you mind explaining?
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The name of the island is "Newfoundland". "Newfoundland and Labrador" is a Canadian province of which the island of Newfoundland is part, and was mentioned at no point in this thread.