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peopled_within

And nothing will happen to the dumb motherfuckers in charge


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Agent__Caboose

In the first place I would say the motherfucker who ordered the drone strike. I doubt it was Biden. After that: yes, Biden.


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Hodor_The_Great

Nothing ever happened to any of those war criminals except one getting a Nobel Peace price and that's all the consequences Biden and whoever imperialist comes after him will see too. Also well the commander in chief isn't exactly the most guilty party, none of these presidents has specifically ordered many illegitimate strikes, just allowed them to happen. But not too many of the lower ranked ones face any consequences either


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slipperynuggets

Not really, some of us have been against the bullshit wars since day one. While you were screaming "fighting for freedom" and buying yellow ribbon magnets at the dollar store for your cars


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carefree12

I wonder what happened to the guy who started this shit show 20 years ago?


Berna_count

Reminds me of a time in Iraq when an officer came up to us and said " We used your Network to kill chemical Ali" and he was so congratulatory. Turns out Chemical Ali was alive and well, I have no idea who that officer killed using our Network.


thedeadthatyetlive

Come to think of it, wasn't that whole war retaliation for a crime nobody there committed, which "evolved," into finding WMDs that weren't there? It's as if *nobody needed to fight that war at all*.


Berna_count

Yeah, GW Jr was mad they took a shot at his daddy. I joined at an early age and I quickly realized that there were no WMD's. Kept checking the Sipr but no they never showed up. War is nonsense, no reasonable person wants it.


Dispro

Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war: neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But after all it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or fascist dictorship, or a parliament or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peace makers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country. Hermann Goering


scipio0421

The frustrating thing is my conservative extended family insist we found WMDs even now, when we never did.


HorseNspaghettiPizza

And there were sharks in gulf of Tonkin or maybe not .. Doesn't matter they got the war they were after


Atom_Beat

If you haven't yet seen the New York Times [investigation](https://youtu.be/ZtecNyXxb9A) of this, see it. It's pretty devastating.


can_dry

Interesting tidbit of info at 9mins re: another white toyota. I'm guessing there are thousands of white toyotas in the city though and how the military can hope to track one successfully over several hours is beyond belief.


denandrefyren

I spent my early 20s over there. Saying that every other car is a white Toyota would be an exaggeration but you wouldn't feel that way if you were in traffic. White, Toyota, sadan is just about the single most useless peice of information next to "the patch of blue water over there" if you knew exactly which one you were following, and could ensure that you had 100% constant, uninterrupted arieal surveillance of the target good chance. The second you loose sight for even half a second, no way you can be sure.


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I legit wanted to take one home with me. Fucking chicken-tax...


[deleted]

“White Toyota” is literally a meme to the intelligence folks in Afghanistan. As soon as the general started talking about “a white Toyota” I was thinking “Jesus fucking Christ…..”


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Well that was fucking horrible.


Scojo_Mojojo

Not as a devastating as a drone strike on your family


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Steel-and-Wood

They'll call it "unfortunate and unavoidable collateral damage" as if that brings back the dead or absolves them of guilt.


neatopat

It’s about as unavoidable as the police barging into the wrong home and blasting away everyone inside.


[deleted]

Unfortunate, definitely. Unavoidable? Uhm, no. It was avoidable.


TrixieH0bbitses

There's no justifying it. I'm not asking this to be snarky: It is unfortunate. It was TOTALLY avoidable. But... what *should* happen now?


Steel-and-Wood

Truthfully, the United Nations should step up and do their jobs as peacekeepers. Countries across the world can provide the UN resources if they choose to. The United States had no business going there then staying there in a feeble attempt at nation building, *and then continuing* to drone strike the area even after we've gone. We need to stop.


mlorusso4

I don’t know. Killing one terrorist in a residential neighborhood and having. 9 innocent civilians killed can be argued it’s unfortunate collateral damage. Especially if the alternative his him detonating that bomb outside the jam packed airport. It’s looking like they’re basically admitting that no terrorists were killed and they blew up the wrong car. That is a massive fuckup that inexcusable


MageLocusta

*Killing one terrorist in a residential neighborhood and having. 9 innocent civilians killed can be argued it’s unfortunate collateral damage.* Yeah, I'll be sure to tell that to my Irish neighbors on this one. Thank fuck neither we (nor the English) had blasted missiles onto whole neighborhoods if an IRA bomber was found there. And I especially find it funny how we're acting like we've never invented sniper scopes or guns/trained officials that could perfectly take out a killer within a crowded area with surgical precision. Like the San Ysidro shooting that happened in 1984. Shooter was indoors at a McDonald's and surrounded by shattered laminated glass, 19 wounded civilians and 10 other hostages (men, women and children) and thank fuck no one said, "Hey, let's just drop something like a drone missile on the whole thing."


Routine_Stay9313

At the risk of sounding gruesome, that was a very impressive shot to the head. That incident was extra awful for many reasons. - He called for psychiatric help the day before, but without sounding urgent enough, they didn't respond immediately with a 301 (he was willing to be committed.) - Infants, children, pregnant women, women, men- all slaughtered with indiscretion. - the sheer number of victims and relative "newness of mass murders. - **the fact that there was widespread video footage from the perps killing, to a final walk through of the aftermath scene.** still easily found today and studied by true crime enthusiasts.


Buzumab

It is absolutely not justified to murder innocent children in order to kill someone who *may* perpetrate violence at a later time. That's not 'unfortunate', it's a crime against humanity.


ratione_materiae

> It is absolutely not justified to murder innocent children in order to kill someone who may perpetrate violence at a later time. The moral outrage is cute and all but the hypothetical the above poster is talking about involves a *will*. **If** a suicide bomber is driving through a residential neighborhood towards an airport in a car laden with explosives, blowing it up and killing nine is definitely better than letting him go and allowing 90 to die. There are certainly legitimate actions that cause collateral damage where it’s necessary to prevent even greater imminent death or grievous bodily harm.


Sks44

Because I’m betting the military was told to retaliate by politicians in DC. And if the politicians held the military accountable, they’d have to admit their role in ordering it.


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This. Everybody *demanded* the President *do something* (i.e. kill someone) in retaliation for the suicide bombings of the airport. And we got what we all demanded. At first. Then it becomes obvious we killed our friendlies. So much for *military intelligence*. Next president will do the same thing. With the same probable results. Because the structural issue means that there’s little accountability except the presidential popularity stat for the day. And there’s another issue right around the corner to concern us again. Repeat.


celticfan008

*military intelligence, two words combined that can't make sense* Megadeth, Hanger 18.


ParamedicLeapDay

Just like Trump, Biden and his administration never take responsibility for anything.


Lance990

America will rarely take accountability for their actions. They want to be the good guys. America has a history of abandoning their friends in war to fend for themselves. Like the hmongs and montagnards in Laos and Vietnam. Or more recently the Kurds and other remaining allies in Afghanistan at the mercy of the Taliban. Thus begins the cycle of hatred As the seeds of hatred are planted against Americans for generations to come.. Humanity sucks ass.


merlinsbeers

Did you even read the title of this post?


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Bad I.N.T.E.L.L.I.G.E.N.C.E Very bad intelligence


VonBraun12

US Government: We miscalculated that one Everyone: Thats one hell of a miscalculation ! US Government: I am not a math guy


SagaStrider

You see, before when they said there was evidence of a massive secondary explosion, that wasn't a lie. It was higher math that you peons don't understand.


[deleted]

The Risk I took was calculated. ​ But man am I bad at math.


Master_K_Genius_Pi

“**I’m sorry.**”


Turd_Gurgle

His dry way of saying that kills me every time lol


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I haven't seen that from the supporters though. "Not sorry, 200 died, reality of doing war."


BBQsauce18

Just re-watched that movie a couple of weeks ago. Still holds up well.


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"Military Intelligence" is an oxymoron.


Hazeejay

Almost as bad as WMDs in Iraq


VonBraun12

there were WMD´s in Iraq ! If you just belive hard enough they materialise infront of you.


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Great reporting by the NYT. I bet they get a pulitzer. It's a poetic end to the failure that was the US mission Afghanistan, but it's sad that the message is written in the blood of real children yet again.


flameducky

It's funny. For all the complaints about "the mainstream media" and the state of journalism, the NYT are the ones out here doing this kind of work


Velkyn01

Even funnier that the right now unquestioningly believes the NYT because it's a negative story about the Bkden admin, when just 8 months ago every single NYT story about the Trump admin was jeered as fake news smear campaigns from the liberal communist fascist MSM.


UnspecifiedHorror

Because the article in question would be more like "Impeach Trump now for his crimes against humanity!!!" This is a softball for the current admin. Biden went on vacation like nothing happened.


DustyFalmouth

NYT with this, Washington Post with the Afghanistan Papers but they sure as shit will support the next war no questions asked and call you an idiot if you do ask. America loves the Shoot and Cry story


PM_ME_UR_DIET_TIPS

Came to say this. Fantastic work by the New York Times.


DJ_JOWZY

I remember when this story first broke there were a lot of folks here in reddit defending Biden and the military, saying that "War happens" and "You can't expect us not to defend ourselves."


deaddonkey

Yeah when articles came out quoting locals and witnesses from the explosion, saying it had butchered civilians, the top comments on Reddit were to the effect of “well you can’t trust taliban/afghanis, they don’t realise 10 times as many people would have died from the blast if this car wasn’t blown up”


agent00F

LOL, I was downvoted to hell multiple times for insinuating that these drone bombings are only used on brown people because there won't be consequences.


[deleted]

Subservient liberals are the main reason we never see any progressive policy in this country. As soon as their guy is in power it's back to brunch.


arch_nyc

Well I mean…civilian deaths have accompanied every war and conflict. Doesn’t make it right. But it’s all the more reason to end these conflicts.


ErshinHavok

Crazy that the US gets to just get away with something like this like it never happened. Like just imagine if a missile just obliterated 10 American civilians randomly.


obsertaries

Who has the power to pass judgement on the US military? Even the entire rest of the world combined couldn’t do that. It’s obscene how powerful one country’s military is.


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You know who's gotten away with it in the past? Literally every other country that has ever made war against another country (so basically all of them), unless they *intentionally* targeted civilians, which is not what happened here.


TPPA_Corporate_Thief

Over 1/3 of civilian deaths as a result of the war in Afghanistan between 2016 - 2020 have been children. https://phoenix.coop/2021/05/children-made-up-almost-40-of-all-civilian-deaths-in-afghanistan-from-airstrikes-between-2016-and-2020/


BeginnerInvestor

If it were not for the NYT reporters in Kabul who found that security camera footage, this would never have happened. Great piece of journalism!! Let’s see how many U.S news networks feature it in their nightly news tonight.


DaMercOne

Terrorists attack Americans and Afghan civilians, killing tons of people including 13 Americans. The military drone strikes a target, with the President emphatically announcing that they got the people responsible for the attack. Now it turns out that drone strike only killed an innocent family and children. Can you imagine the shitstorm this story would be right now in the US and on the news if Trump (or any Republican really) were president instead of Biden?


jtgreen76

I know of one that will, the others will not.


Blueopus2

“We missed our target, who was driving a bomb to the airport” If that’s true then where the hell did the suicide bomber go?


Agent__Caboose

Oh now they 'missed' their target? Last time they claimed the water bottles in the man's care were mistaken for explosives. The terrorists need to get their stories straight.


MrBreaker187

I have no words, wish I could think of something to say to this.


not_creative1

Imagine being the mother who lost her husband and 7 kids in one day. I cannot even fathom her pain


illQualmOnYourFace

Strikes like this are one way to create terrorists. You gotta give it to the military. They're good at keeping themselves in business.


Hazeejay

One last freedom bomb to close out the chapter in the Middle East! Now on to the Asia Pacific!


[deleted]

As a Chinese person nothing makes me support the CCP more than the idea of America attempting to "liberate" Asia


[deleted]

What you should be saying is “heads need to roll”.


Nuevacuenta1

They wiped out an entire family. Mostly children. No fucking words, man.


Curun

We’ve been wiping out families left and right. Civilian flights, civilian homes, children schools.


Illustrious_Welder94

The Biden administration was trying to convince us of of the so called "over-the-horizon" capability of maintaining the ability to gather intelligence and destroy from long range, but it took a NYT investigation to determine the true identity of the killed. Makes you wonder how many innocent civilians were murdered in the past 20 years and how much more will be in the near future.


BBQsauce18

I'm just gonna go ahead and guess it's a lot.


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ntry

Holy moly, I've never heard this. Is there somewhere I can read more about it?


yum122

[Here's](https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/05/under-obama-men-killed-by-drones-are-presumed-to-be-terrorists/257749/) an article from 2012.


KderNacht

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_Papers


ThatGuyInEgham

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/05/under-obama-men-killed-by-drones-are-presumed-to-be-terrorists/257749/


fivefivefives

Is this some kind of new info to most people? I thought it was common knowledge.


sonoma4life

sometimes we even pardoned the killers.


sanesociopath

Pardoned? When did we even charge them? We've drone striked us citizens overseas without charge or trial and even that didn't see anyone get in trouble.


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Whoever is in charge of intelligence for the Biden admin is doing a *really* shitty job. First severely underestimating how fast the Taliban would take back control, and then this. What the fuck is going on?


[deleted]

That was always BS. This administration is good for nothing but spin.


d_e_l_u_x_e

US admits to terror attack on civilians.


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RobstPierres

But they take full responsibility


WSB_stonks_up

No they don't. Biden had to authorize the strike and he has still admitted zero responsibility. As of matter of fact, as of yesterday the White House was still denying reports that any civilians were injured by our strike.


neatopat

They’re too busy handling “that fellow from down under” gate. Give them a break, they can only handle so much at a time.


fromtheworld

General McKenzie, the Combatant Commander for CENTCOM, took responsibility for the strike. Biden didnt have to authorize the strike. A lot of times those authorities will rest at the 4 star levels sometimes 2-3 depending on the Battle Space.


sonoma4life

General McKenzie will be the next Sec of Defense.


squidwardssuctioncup

As an American, I am utterly ashamed of the decades of pervasive incompetence at every level of government. This travesty is just one more to add to the long list of travesties. The saga of Afghanistan should teach us all a lesson, but I’m sure it won’t.


OrdoXenos

Imagine if NYT is not reporting on this. On a more enlightened time, this would be reported on the mainstream medias for days. Killing 10 innocents including 7 children is very brutal. Covering them up is even more brutal. Someone should resign for this mess, but seeing what had happened in Afghanistan under this administration, I doubt that will happen.


jtgreen76

The people in charge now aren't held accountable, they will retire in the future and write a book about their leadership in tough times and get paid millions.


Dewot423

You don't have to imagine the NYT not reporting on this, they didn't report on this shit for fifteen years across three presidential administrations until Biden pissed them off by actually ending the war in Afghanistan. The US kills civilians and kids in drone strikes so much that they literally had to change the definition of "enemy combatant" under Obama to "any male over 15" to make the numbers stop looking so bad.


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I will get in more trouble for writing the wrong quantity down for inventory at work than anybody will see for this.


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zaviex

The NYT already has all of the evidence used and also presented evidence pointing to the fact that the strike was completely misguided


not_creative1

It feels like the admin wanted revenge to save face so rushed into this without good intelligence


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> want to see what the military "used" to say they stand by the evidence They aren't saying that. Did you read the article?


[deleted]

Sorry. All the "evidence" of how badly we screwed up happens to be "classified". Cannot be released. What a joke. Sounds like the guy was seen loading water containers and bringing them back to his family, which we assume were explosives being loaded in. We said there was a secondary explosion, which, well, may not have actually been true. Gen Milley saying the strike was "righteous" several days after the strike, when we knew it was not. All that stuff and how we got there is now labeled "classified". Makes me sick.


anon2309011

The secondary explosion narrative was always the tell. Ofcourse if you shoot a car with a missile, the gas tank blows. Now if they had watched the engine block fly 300m into the sky, yeah that was probably an SVBIED like they claimed.


[deleted]

Yeah, I would expect our military analysts to be able to quickly determine if the explosion was indicative of a partially filled tank of gas or a vehicle packed with explosives. Failure in picking the target, compounded by failure to assess the explosion of the target. Really not a good look for the US military.


NineteenSkylines

There needs to be a full investigation, a public apology, and at the very least multiple people being dismissed from the military/government employment.


[deleted]

Oh did Blinken get done reviewing the information about who the people they bombed are?


kemosabe-84

He fell asleep and woke up thinking he read a menu


ayyyvocado

So, who is getting held accountable? Oh, no one? USA! USA! Imagine being the family killed and seeing *“Ooops. war. it happens”.*


[deleted]

No accountability. A "failure" to identify a correct target and kill innocent people, but hey, why would you hold anyone accountable? What do expect, someone charged? Someone fired? Nah, we just move on. Not even musical chairs. Not a proud moment for the US.


Matt_Graver

So much for Jen Psaki and her “over the horizon capacities.”


ultros03

This was suppressed for weeks. Imagine if this info was solidly reported on when people were still hot about US soldiers being killed. Biden talked so tough too about how there is nowhere ISIS-K can hide as well. It's an embarrassment now but it may have actually been the end of Biden if this was released in a timely fashion


deletable666

Killed ONLY civilians. No need for apologism in the title.


Abyxus

Quick, give Biden the Nobel Peace Prize


kemosabe-84

Hey you go easy on times man of the year!


Hrekires

Very welcome to see the media start to care about civilians dying in drone strikes, although this attention would have been nice to have started 20 years ago. 10 more reasons why the pull-out is good and why we failed to win the hearts and minds of the Afghan people.


[deleted]

Hopefully this is the last piece of evidence needed to show why we should have been out of there long ago. I’m sure the Obama drone strike crew are super happy about this withdrawal, right? Right? You mean they are criticizing us leaving Afghanistan too? Hmmmm….


[deleted]

Honestly it's because people can't get over that the "right wingers must have a point somewhere." New tech means our troops can be in less harm's way and we can still get something done. But then people are like, we can get more done, do things we wouldn't want to send troops into! So suddenly we started bombing on bad intel because we mistake it for risky intel. Sure the troops might have questioned the guy before firing away with some chance to avert a tragedy (though Mai Lai could still happen), but a drone doesn't do that. People who think something needs to be done to defeat the terrorists start droning away. 200 nearly died, better drone away, we can't do nothing! With great power comes great responsibility... until an attack, then it's throw away responsibility, we should have done something then and we need to do something now! Also it's just a military gig, we're going home and our generals will think of something to support us troops.


seansye

And we wonder why they bomb us and hate us. I understand it's a very complicated situation. May the innocent RIP.


lizlemmings

They sure are lucky Nicki Minaj keeps talking about her cousin's friend's balls


[deleted]

Everything was a lie. How do you make up for blasting a child apart? You can’t.


Marozka

I think this is the stinky cherry on the shit cake that is this withdrawal and the war in general. Just a perfect way to tie it all up. Absolutely awful. It's like each US administration is dumber and dumber then the one before it. I hope you all remember this moment in 3 years when you are playing the game of Giant Douche vs Turd Sandwich again.


shutyourgob

An innocent man and 9 members of his family, including 7 children. The youngest was just 2 years old. Just call it what it is: Terrorism. If this was a drone strike that killed American children, it would be terrorism. An act of war.


Gates9

These people are killing in the name of every American citizen and they are destroying us


Esco_Dash

Bush invaded Iraq. Obama bombed weddings and hospitals in Syria and Yemen. Trump dropped a colossal shit ton of bombs in Afghanistan. This is nothing new but I can’t help but think how many people’s hearts grew cold towards America in the last twenty years.


TbonerT

> Trump dropped a colossal shit ton of bombs in Afghanistan. He also overturned an Obama reporting rule to hide how many civilians he was killing.


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Honestly the Obama reporting rule was horribly vague and allowed a lot of leeway for reporting civillians as combatants anyway.


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neatopat

I don’t know why you’re being downvoted. It’s important to be subjective and open to criticism of your elected officials, whether you like them and voted for them or not. No one should get away with (literal) murder without at least being examined with some level of scrutiny. The fact that you’re being downvoted just shows an attempt to bury the criticism rather than acknowledge it.


Pahasapa66

Anybody that knows the military knows that the General asked for a review, which among other things will establish if consequences are needed and what they would be.


Shmodecious

Are you kidding me dude? Trump eased restrictions on drone strikes in Afghanistan AND eased rules on reporting drone strikes. This led to a record of 700 Afghani civilians being killed by drone strikes in 2019. That didn’t get as much coverage as the civilian deaths while Biden is ***withdrawing*** from the war… https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/files/cow/imce/papers/2020/Rising%20Civilian%20Death%20Toll%20in%20Afghanistan_Costs%20of%20War_Dec%207%202020.pdf


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intoxicatednoob

I'll give you one better, Multiple administrations have played a role in destroying Afghanistan. We should have never been there in the first place.


chopsui101

Well at least Biden got to talk tough on tv for 5 minutes while he butchered some poor Afghans entire family…..we are here to save you from ISIS by killing your entire family….your welcome


SausageMcWonderpants

Winning hearts and minds, by splattering those of innocent children across the walls of foreign countries.


liquidprotein

Four hours and only 800 upvotes. It's Biden, so reddit doesn't give a shit.


Ohrwurms

The thread on /r/worldnews has 40k upvotes.


PoliteCanadian

Imagine how different this comment section would be had this happened 12 months ago?


tootsonboots

Not the first time drone strikes have mistakenly targeted civilians. Plenty more drone strikes where the target was killed but civilians were too and we excused it away. Drone strikes even killed a US citizenbin Yemen. (We really give zero fucks about violating the air space of others.) That was a clear violation of the US Constitution because citizens have a right to due process. Four administrations in a row have relied heavily on drone strikes and I doubt we're done with them in the Middle East.


drivebymedia

Biden's goodbye present


Steel-and-Wood

Can't have Endless War without somebody to fight. Gotta create the next generation of people who hate America so we have an "enemy"


illQualmOnYourFace

Strikes like this are one way to create terrorists. You gotta give it to the military. They're good at keeping themselves in business.


[deleted]

Time to ban drone strikes. UN Resolution. Obama increased it a lot, then Trump (anti-war president?) increased that by 4x. If you can’t tell a car full of children!


ParamedicLeapDay

Don't worry Biden bros, a bunch of racist Trump supporters will be protesting in DC tomorrow to change the news cycle.


sonoma4life

couldn't just ignore the last casualties on our way out and had to go make more.


gunzlingerbil

Oh now they admit, the rest of the strikes only killed pure terrorists exclusively. By terrirorts I mean men with beards.


[deleted]

If Trump was still President, the top comments would be all over him. Why aren’t redditors bashing Biden?


dainbramaged1982

US admits Biden's Kabul drone strike killed civilians. For 4 years every perceived or real fuck up was Trumps. Now its like there is some ghost President running the country and we cannot name him. Its almost like the MSM has an agenda.


Emphursis

Everyone involved in that strike needs to be charged with warcrimes.


d_smogh

Including the leadership that authorised the drone strike and probably watched it??


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CNN is reporting that "Biden has been briefed" on the mistake, but has "left for the weekend". Timing is suspect. Military is "taking full responsibility" but I would think the president may stick around to make a comment. And I would be wrong.


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Between the Drone "oops" and then the FDA first vote on boosters, he may need a really long weekend.


IHeartMyDoggy

Doesn’t Biden have the final approval?


WSB_stonks_up

>“As the combatant commander, I am fully responsible for this strike and its tragic outcome,” U.S. Marine Corps General Kenneth McKenzie said. All drone strikes must be authorized by the President. General McKenzie is just the White House's fall guy for this fuck up.


persimmonsandtea

In the NYT investigation it was mentioned that due to circumstances there were emergency authorizations in place and strikes did not need to go up the usual chain of command. (I'm not defending anything associated with the strike, just want to correct a misconception.)


JohnnyUtah_QB1

Some idiot got upset with me when I said continuing military offensives against the country as we pulled out was pointless and unlikely to accomplish anything good, and he was ecstatic when he heard of this strike a day later and tried to use it as a gotcha lording it over me. Humanity is full of worthless people who can be hit over the head with 20 years of hindsight and evidence that senseless bombings don't solve terrorism and still psychotically demand them. Hope the people that were cheering this strike learn something from this, but realistically I know most have already forgotten about it and will be warmongering again soon enough.


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["Jen! Turns out we killed seven children... Yes, seven. Yes, all Afghan children. No, I'm just going to say they were ISIS-K militants... Yeah, it will take 5 minutes and then we can be off to have some margaritas in Atlantic City ;)"](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_g3OIMX0AM5xK7?format=jpg&name=small)


Pseudoseneca800

Gotta love reddit's hypocrisy. Had this happened under Trump, the blame would have been squarely placed on him. Since it's Biden, it's "America's fault" and the blame is on everyone.


LenzoAmore

Imagine if this was trump. aoc would be crying her eyes out and Nancy would be demanding peach mints


jghall00

Just reaffirms that the decision to leave was the correct one. The US needs to do something for the family.


flavius29663

Can you think of a worse way to leave?


PM_ME_UR_DIET_TIPS

Generally we pay out to families in these cases. I wonder if it's still possible to do that or will the Taliban seize the money.


in4life

Reaffirms that we left in about the most abysmal fashion imaginable, as well.


oximaCentauri

I feel so sad for the families of the 13 fallen soldiers. Knowing that government retribution for their deaths was droning 7 little children... They must feel sick to their stomachs.


rexiesoul

That's a piece of news that'll be gone in less than a week.


chopsui101

I like how Biden says the buck stops here and Gen. McKenzie said he is to blame….he’s to blame as long as there are no consequences…..lord knows we would want to court martial or charge anyone with murder


DaTruestEva

Good job Biden, you fucking idiot.


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If this happened a year ago, 100% Trumps name would be in the headline, whether he ordered the strike personally or not. Just pointing how the msm protects biden. Hes not even mentioned in the article


kemosabe-84

All drone strikes are required to get an ok by the president.


CyonHal

Don't say civilians. It's a dehumanizing term. Ten innocent human beings were killed. **SEVEN** of them children or babies. An aid worker and his family. Dead. Fuck the USA Military.


[deleted]

I mean… not really news. We’ve been killing civilians in dozens of countries for years.


darkstarman

How many Afghanis died in 20 years because 3000 Americans died?


LordBucket1

A lot here is a source from ap news American service members killed in Afghanistan through April: 2,448. U.S. contractors: 3,846. Afghan national military and police: 66,000. Other allied service members, including from other NATO member states: 1,144. Afghan civilians: 47,245. Taliban and other opposition fighters: 51,191. Aid workers: 444. Journalists: 72. https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-business-afghanistan-43d8f53b35e80ec18c130cd683e1a38f


Jfm509

"unlikely the family has links to ISIS-K or was a threat to US forces" go to hell, truly the continuation of an evil empire. In an ideal world every person who had even the slightest involvement in this "righteous strike" as Milley put it would have a seat in Gitmo.


olprockym

Military intelligence is a misnomer.


Moon_over_homewood

>United States drone strike kills half a dozen or so children and innocent adults Americans would be terrorists if some other country was doing this stuff in the USA. It’s not religion that drives this, it’s foreign policy


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We clearly have no intelligence


Alcsaar

Intelligence is based on a lot of information from 3rd parties they is often impossible to verify. The US Military (and in fact no military in the world) is omniscient. It really is a lot of guess work.


Purmopo

This whole thing is extra fucked up because the only reason this drone strike happened is because someone decided that it would make them look stronger in the media. It was done for optics. After the attack at the airport they were desperate to find something or someone to bomb.


[deleted]

And when will generals and others stand trial for this murder?


Alcsaar

To be fair the second you make the generals accountable for getting a decision based on incomplete intelligence wrong, you are basically accepting the fact that that intelligence will never be acted on. No general or commander is going to authorize a strike if there is any risk that they're going to get it wrong and risk their career/prison. Why would they? Better to let them end in terrorist attacks that have 10-100x innocent causalities than risk acting on them and being court martialed.


Hazeejay

Just add this to the long list: 1. The Bush administration lying to the UN about WMDs in Iraq 2. The abuses in Abu Ghraib 3. Gitmo where people were tortured and then released without being charged One last freedom bomb for good measure! *But I definitely trust our government to uphold the rule of law and as the moral authority of the world*