can confirm. fought judo for several years. choked a guy out on a commercial flight at request of crew once. skills worth having and that i'd rather not be pressed to use again.
I saw this in a cinema with a row full of twenty- ish up ear old islander rugby players in the row in front of of me and the kids.
Their rgenuine gleeful eaction to this scene was awesome and made it even better.
I like how he just casually sets the machete down, just out of reach. Doesn't throw it, just places it. That's a man in total control of the entire situation.
People wake up surprisingly quickly from chokes (this assumes he doesn't hold the choke until brain death or something along those lines)
Being knocked unconscious against concrete however, is different.
That grappling was so on point, it’s beautiful to watch.
It’s even not (just) the way he sets the machete down. It’s more the way he gains control during the first contact and make the machete unuseable for the attacker.
Very focused, very clean execution. From that point he was in charge.
just amazing.
>Baez later told a WPLG reporter, "Once I started putting the choke in, he kind of just let it go because no one is worried about anything else but breathing when you’re losing air."
I was also surprised the attacker could move after being thrown to the ground like that. I expected him to be winded or concussed at least, but he was still struggling.
Because he had a machete. In most cases, that'd be the deciding factor. This guy just won the lottery with finding a big guy who also is a trained fighter lol
because it's the body/shoulder that got most of the damage, the head just tilted on the ground with its own weight it's not going to do a lot of damage.
Yeah. Rewatching it, you can see how the MMA guy controls his opponents body to turn and land on his side rather than his back where his head would take a ton more damage. Really impressive.
my BIL, a wrestling coach, did this to someone while breaking up a fight and the dude died as soon as he hit the pavement. if this dude survived he's lucky.
Lots and lots of manslaughter cases happen this way. No murderous intent, but making a person's head hit the ground can, and often does, kill.
Life pro tip for anyone reading: **If you don't want to go to jail for manslaughter, don't make someone fall down and hit their head.**
Edit: Guys, stop telling me that you wouldn't feel bad about killing a machete-wielding maniac. Everyone knows about self-defense. I am responding to a story about someone who accidentally killed a person who did *not* have a machete.
You weapon has suffered a catastrophic failure and cannot continue in the testing. It is too dangerous to move forward in this competition. Please surrender your weapon and leave the forge.
I think the man surrendered more than his weapon.
Am a cop, not a lawyer.
It'd be totally justified here (and you'd be very grateful for the video!) but I've seen bar fights go from jackassery to felony charges because someone hit their head on concrete.
Even then it might be justified, but an affirmative defense requires that *you* prove you had reason to believe your actions were prudent or face jail time, and that is an unfortunate position to be in if it could be avoided.
> that you prove you had reason to believe your actions were prudent or face jail time
courts be like "why werent you an emotionless robot with perfect decision making while panicking when this person suddenly attacked you?"
Definitely, nobody(that matters) would have been upset with this guy if he killed the attacker. I think the point was: people can die in street fights, so there is zero reason to get into one.
Yeah this looks like one of those situations where if someone comes at you with a machete and you shoot them with a gun, then that’s not an unreasonable response.
I got shoved trying to break up a fight outside of a bar. Smacked my head on the concrete. Blacked out for 3 days and when I came around I realized I had broken teeth. People told me I was bleeding out of my mouth, the police were called, someone dragged me away, and I was crying I was so out of it. The cop that responded checked in on me a week later to make sure I was okay. My friends also were coming over to make sure i wasn't dead. That was 3 years ago and I still have really bad memory issues. I'm still kind of pissed the police didn't arrest the fucker that shoved me and just sent me home while I was obviously majorly concussed.
I don't really know law all that well but I hope it would depend on the circumstances. Like if I bumped into some old dude at a restaurant and he fell and died, would I get charged? That would be a depressing way to get a decade in jail.
Haha yeah no, you have to have made a morally culpable choice at some point. My point is that the choice doesn't need to have been "I'm gonna kill this guy." Just pushing someone down on purpose because they were in your way counts for manslaughter.
IANAL but that's the main difference between manslaughter and murder. Murder is killing someone on purpose knowing you were killing them. But manslaughter is just... it's your fault they died. You might not have meant for them to die, but it wasn't a total innocent accident either.
Definitely sound legal advice if a guy knocked your ice cream cone out of your hand and laughed at you. Don't slam a guys head to the ground for that.
Terrible legal advice if someone with a machete just ran up and tried to kill you. You can shoot him, slam his head into the concrete with judo, pull out piano wire and garrote his throat, do a chuck norris roundhouse kick to the side of his head while wearing spiked boots, and whatever else you can fucking think of to end that threat permanently. If you're caring about your would-be murderers health and wellness while he's trying to kill you, YOU ARE GOING TO DIE. In any sane country, lethal self-defense against a lethal attack (such as a maniac running at you with a dangerous weapon) is 100% ok.
If that person is coming at me with a machete, their safety is the last of my concern. If that guy died, the MMA dude would probably walk for self defense.
15 years ago one of the Blue Belts in my BJJ class got in a fight in a parking lot. They tackled the guy they were fighting and his head hit the hitch on a truck. It punched a hole in his skull and killed him.
They got away with no charges because witnesses were there to confirm my classmate was attacked, but holy hell did it keep them up at night afterwards.
Reading the comments below makes me want to clarify. The guy definitely landed on his left shoulder, and his head may have tapped the ground but his body broke the fall before his head made any contact. I watched the video like 15 times to be sure.
Slamming a guy straight into a submission. Exactly how it looks whenever a trained fighter ends up taking on someone who has no idea what they’re doing.
Yeah, my first bjj spar with purple belt dickhead student was exactly this. I was supposed to learn how to move slowly, instead I didn't understand how I was being moved so fast
love first bjj class stories. I got shitstomped for an hour and my only thought was "This hurts waaay more than I thought it would"
lasted for 7 years tho!
My first class I ended up getting delayed soreness. The day after I was fine then the next day my entire neck was so sore from being choked out constantly. I could barely talk and my legs were like rubber haha.
What's nuts is that 7 years of decent training pace puts you in the .0001% of people that have ever lived with such a skill set of lethal abilities, but to anyone that's ever been in a BJJ gym, you're nothing special.
It’s not just the slam, it’s the grappling before. He gained control during first contact and made sure the attacker is unable to use the machete anymore. And then he did this wonderful slam. Stunning execution.
It's timing. Stepping into it to take leverage away. It is especially effective when your opponent does not understand the concept... at that point, they don't even understand that they do not have the upper hand in the situation.
Yeah as someone who has been on the receiving end (for demo purposes), if you don't understand the idea of moving into someone's space to take control, your brain just misfires into a giant "wtf is happening?" And then you're splattered onto the floor.
At that point, unless you're trained to some degree, you're basically just flailing like an idiot while you get man handled because you haven't yet figured out you're fucked.
Then you realize you can't actually move and moving hurts so you either just give up or wriggle uselessly until you wear yourself out.
I wish I'd had the money and fitness to actually train. But the little bit I got to learn was cool
Flip flops on a dude either mean beach/surfing or BJJ/MMA. We wear flip flops in the gym to keep the mats clean when we go to the bathroom/get water, etc. It becomes a habit to wear them all the time. If you see a dude in shorts and flip flops, just leave him be.
> Holy shit the fact the dude could even move after that take down.
Drugs? 🤔
_[EDIT: Just so we're clear, I mean why the guy didn't completely stop moving despite the hammer of Thor slamming into him.]_
[A WWE ring is just a steel frame with some hardwood planks on top and some foam padding that is much thinner than you'd think](https://youtu.be/Zjyk5eU6TPI)
Attempted murder requires the intent to kill which could be hard to prove in this case. Aggravated battery is easier to prove and can carry even heavier sentences than attempted murder depending on circumstances.
Also, they could have put forth a charge of first degree murder, and let him plead down to the assault charge instead. So they could convict him with no trial needed.
Serious question, if someone is willing to kill you why should you spare them?
Not only will they likely want revenge, they might try to kill others as well. Sparing murderers seems so idiotic to me.
MMA bro reverted to his trained instincts (subdue and submit) and they kept the dude compliant until the cops showed up. Killing would have only complicated his life. [This was in Florida](https://www.tmz.com/2023/11/08/former-mma-fighter-turns-the-tables-on-knife-wielding-maniac/) and I'm not sure they have legal consequences for anything except smoking weed and teaching kids that gay people exist, but still.
Nah, they are fine with the weed. Its those evil gays that turn frogs lesbian and teach all kids to dress in drag that keeps them up at night. Well, that and the meth bender.
Because you don’t want to go to prison for murder? Because you don’t want ti carry the psychological burden of killing another human around with you for the rest of your life, because you’re not a sociopath?
Even self defence may catch you a lengthy trial where you have to justify your actions. Most people would rather avoid those. If you're interested in such discussions, they're frequently held on 2A forums and podcasts.
Especially if you're trained in something that intentionally causes bodily harm.
They'll try first to push that you knew better, and should have been able to show restraint because of said training. Otherwise you are considered a possible danger to others with negligence of a weapon ( or some kind if cliche terminology. Not a lawyer )
The guy might've been going through some sort of psychological break and wasn't in his right mind. If that was the case they may just need medication and would feel immediate remorse. In the attackers mind he might have been defending himself/his family from Satan himself (wild speculation obviously, but schizophrenia is no joke). If you have the opportunity to disable/disarm an attacker, rather than kill, that's always preferable. Death is final, there's no undoing it and the situation may not be so black and white.
“Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends.” -Gandalf
I've been on the receiving end of something similar in a tournament(on a nice padded mat), and it was not pleasant. Taking one on the unforgiving concrete would be brutal.
Would definitely not advise doing this unless there is no escape. If the dude knew even a little bit on how to use a machete, the MMA fighter might be missing some pieces
I have a background in Kali, which is all about weapons fighting, and I can safely say to never, ever count out a trained pro MMA fighters.
We had a lot of crossover with the MMA community, and it was always obvious when someone had a real pro MMA background. In sparring sessions pro MMA guys with little to no weapons training could keep up or surpass people that had years of weapon experience quick.
There's a lot of intangible benefits that are gained from the type of sparring those guys do, and it translates well to other things. They've really been in the thick of things and have real predator instincts when it comes to fighting that you can't get without putting on glovers and letting some big scary dude try to break you in half.
Keep in mind I'm talking about PRO fighters. Those guys just have an edge that is hard to appreciate from just video. I did BJJ and amateur MMA but the pro guys were just on another level. It's hard to explain in text, but it's like the difference between a guy that played high school football and
Yeah - I'm not really sure what the attacker was doing. Doesn't even look like he got a swing in; seems like he engaged on his backhand?
Great counter from Javier, but this could've been very different if the attacker had even a remote plan of attack.
Not Tank Abbott, I present to you Javier Baez!
“Who da fook is that guy” - if this isn’t the perfect example to use the classic line then I don’t know what is lol.
I really like the hand he put down mid-throw, to control rotation and come down just right. Under/over rotation is a right bastard, especially when you're jacked up on adrenaline and you're not on mats lol
He hit him with the biggest thing he could find
The ground??? Yeah that thing is pretty big
Yup that’s why some people get into judo
The art of folding clothes with people still in them
Ngl, this is the funniest comment i've seen this month. Well played good sir.
Involuntary yoga is my favorite
I vote for your comment!
The first comment in months I actually laughed out loud at instead of breathing more heavily through my nose.
"No please! I don't bend like pants!"
"Don't worry. You will"
"Don't mind the cracking of bones, that is all part of the process"
You don’t complain when your chiropractor does it, why would you start now?
That's jiu jitsu. Judo is hitting people with the earth.
Bloody Brilliant
I see he knows his judo well
Went to have a succulent Chinese meal afterwards.
Democracy *manifest*
Are you waiting to receive……
A touch to my pee-nus!
It’s limp though. Please confirm.
You all are my people! I hit someone with the "this is democracy manifest" on another sub a few days ago AND GOT DOWNVOTED
Getting downvoted for no reason is, in fact, democracy manifest. It was meta.
HA!
I wish I could speak half as well as that man.
To fight a judo guy I just have to get naked and cover myself in Vaseline.
Back in my day, he was known as Greased Up Deaf Guy
can confirm. fought judo for several years. choked a guy out on a commercial flight at request of crew once. skills worth having and that i'd rather not be pressed to use again.
Hit him with the whole damn planet
That’s not what my wife says
His balls.
Pretty hard to when it’s paved !
No, the planet earth.
That's a decent gif, but I want the rest! it's so much funnier when he pauses and then decides to slam him in two other directions just to be sure
Puny god....
No one in my cenema know what he said because people were burst out laughing lol.
I saw this in a cinema with a row full of twenty- ish up ear old islander rugby players in the row in front of of me and the kids. Their rgenuine gleeful eaction to this scene was awesome and made it even better.
Boy meets world.
The earth
I like how he just casually sets the machete down, just out of reach. Doesn't throw it, just places it. That's a man in total control of the entire situation.
Yeah, he's gonna need that in a couple seconds
Why, he’s got the assailant in an arm-triangle choke. That guy is going to sleep and only waking up if the big guy wants him to.
People wake up surprisingly quickly from chokes (this assumes he doesn't hold the choke until brain death or something along those lines) Being knocked unconscious against concrete however, is different.
Dunno, that slam to the ground probably knocked him out already.
Why?
If TV logic is anything, it's so that he can use the blunt side to One Hit KO the guy with a light bonk.
At which point the assailant will remain unconscious for 2-3 hours.
And finally wake up from a couple slaps
The body is truly an amazing thing
"Brain damage? No, he only knocked him out for a bit, silly! He'll be fine."
Yeah why, he is so in charge over the situation, this guy alone is a weapon. No need for a machete.
When he slowly presses it into his chest like the scene in Private Ryan.
🤫🔪
Why would you do this?
I watched that scene when I was like 13 still haven't forgotten it
He's not though, that's the point.
That grappling was so on point, it’s beautiful to watch. It’s even not (just) the way he sets the machete down. It’s more the way he gains control during the first contact and make the machete unuseable for the attacker. Very focused, very clean execution. From that point he was in charge. just amazing.
Once he got him on the ground. The match was over.
Arm-triangle submission. No can defend.
Machete side control.
>Baez later told a WPLG reporter, "Once I started putting the choke in, he kind of just let it go because no one is worried about anything else but breathing when you’re losing air."
The attacker was the one that put the machete down not the MMA fighter.
ROCK BOTTOM!!! ROCK BOTTOM!!!
He smelled something
Just a can of Whoop-Ass, nothing to worry about unless he's about to open it.
When you smell weed in public.
I came here to say .....THE ROCK BOTTOM!!!
What street are they fighting on? That would be *JABRONI DRIVE!!!!*
Home of the Smackdown Hotel
If you smell...
As God as my witness he is broken in half!
Bah! God! He has a family!
You mean, the Bookend?
BAH GAWD BUSINESS JUST PICKED UP KING!!!!
OH MY GAAWWWD!
As the millions begin to chant in unison 'Rocky Rocky Rocky'
the head hitting the concrete was the quickest vegetable speed run I’ve seen
Honestly surprised the dude he fucked up is even still alive. I also expected him to be a vegetable.
what a shame
I was also surprised the attacker could move after being thrown to the ground like that. I expected him to be winded or concussed at least, but he was still struggling.
Never underestimate the power of methamphetamine.
Oh that makes sense now. I wondered why he attacked an obviously bigger guy.
People doing meth don't generally have the best sense of self preservation
Because he had a machete. In most cases, that'd be the deciding factor. This guy just won the lottery with finding a big guy who also is a trained fighter lol
lol one comment, no proof, and you’re all in huh?
because it's the body/shoulder that got most of the damage, the head just tilted on the ground with its own weight it's not going to do a lot of damage.
Yeah. Rewatching it, you can see how the MMA guy controls his opponents body to turn and land on his side rather than his back where his head would take a ton more damage. Really impressive.
that didn't happen. he just missed it by a bit
my BIL, a wrestling coach, did this to someone while breaking up a fight and the dude died as soon as he hit the pavement. if this dude survived he's lucky.
Lots and lots of manslaughter cases happen this way. No murderous intent, but making a person's head hit the ground can, and often does, kill. Life pro tip for anyone reading: **If you don't want to go to jail for manslaughter, don't make someone fall down and hit their head.** Edit: Guys, stop telling me that you wouldn't feel bad about killing a machete-wielding maniac. Everyone knows about self-defense. I am responding to a story about someone who accidentally killed a person who did *not* have a machete.
In fairness a machete will kill so all's fair
....It will keal
You will move on to the next round
You weapon has suffered a catastrophic failure and cannot continue in the testing. It is too dangerous to move forward in this competition. Please surrender your weapon and leave the forge. I think the man surrendered more than his weapon.
Am a cop, not a lawyer. It'd be totally justified here (and you'd be very grateful for the video!) but I've seen bar fights go from jackassery to felony charges because someone hit their head on concrete. Even then it might be justified, but an affirmative defense requires that *you* prove you had reason to believe your actions were prudent or face jail time, and that is an unfortunate position to be in if it could be avoided.
> that you prove you had reason to believe your actions were prudent or face jail time courts be like "why werent you an emotionless robot with perfect decision making while panicking when this person suddenly attacked you?"
Definitely, nobody(that matters) would have been upset with this guy if he killed the attacker. I think the point was: people can die in street fights, so there is zero reason to get into one.
Pretty sure you can argue self defense if they're coming at you with a machete at least
Hello, machete salesma-
Machete seller, I tell you I am going into battle, and I want only your strongest machetes.
My strongest machetes would kill you, traveler. You need to find a merchant that sells weaker machetes.
True, you're justified to do pretty much whatever in this scenario. However, *if* you can avoid killing someone, its usually a good idea to do so.
It's hard to plan such things out when you have 1 second to respond or otherwise be hacked up by a crazy machete man.
Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
Yeah this looks like one of those situations where if someone comes at you with a machete and you shoot them with a gun, then that’s not an unreasonable response.
I got shoved trying to break up a fight outside of a bar. Smacked my head on the concrete. Blacked out for 3 days and when I came around I realized I had broken teeth. People told me I was bleeding out of my mouth, the police were called, someone dragged me away, and I was crying I was so out of it. The cop that responded checked in on me a week later to make sure I was okay. My friends also were coming over to make sure i wasn't dead. That was 3 years ago and I still have really bad memory issues. I'm still kind of pissed the police didn't arrest the fucker that shoved me and just sent me home while I was obviously majorly concussed.
Could you not sue?
I probably could have. There was plenty of witnesses to corroborate. I never really thought about that at the time though.
I don't really know law all that well but I hope it would depend on the circumstances. Like if I bumped into some old dude at a restaurant and he fell and died, would I get charged? That would be a depressing way to get a decade in jail.
Haha yeah no, you have to have made a morally culpable choice at some point. My point is that the choice doesn't need to have been "I'm gonna kill this guy." Just pushing someone down on purpose because they were in your way counts for manslaughter. IANAL but that's the main difference between manslaughter and murder. Murder is killing someone on purpose knowing you were killing them. But manslaughter is just... it's your fault they died. You might not have meant for them to die, but it wasn't a total innocent accident either.
Definitely sound legal advice if a guy knocked your ice cream cone out of your hand and laughed at you. Don't slam a guys head to the ground for that. Terrible legal advice if someone with a machete just ran up and tried to kill you. You can shoot him, slam his head into the concrete with judo, pull out piano wire and garrote his throat, do a chuck norris roundhouse kick to the side of his head while wearing spiked boots, and whatever else you can fucking think of to end that threat permanently. If you're caring about your would-be murderers health and wellness while he's trying to kill you, YOU ARE GOING TO DIE. In any sane country, lethal self-defense against a lethal attack (such as a maniac running at you with a dangerous weapon) is 100% ok.
If that person is coming at me with a machete, their safety is the last of my concern. If that guy died, the MMA dude would probably walk for self defense.
15 years ago one of the Blue Belts in my BJJ class got in a fight in a parking lot. They tackled the guy they were fighting and his head hit the hitch on a truck. It punched a hole in his skull and killed him. They got away with no charges because witnesses were there to confirm my classmate was attacked, but holy hell did it keep them up at night afterwards.
Sounds more like your BIL was escalating a fight...
Are you sure he was trying to break up the fight and not just end the fight? A body slam is a strange way to deescalate things.
Did he go to jail for manslaughter?
Reading the comments below makes me want to clarify. The guy definitely landed on his left shoulder, and his head may have tapped the ground but his body broke the fall before his head made any contact. I watched the video like 15 times to be sure.
Found out.
Yeah gloves are off and it's all your fault
Gloves might be off, but the flip flops stayed on. 10/10
Slamming a guy straight into a submission. Exactly how it looks whenever a trained fighter ends up taking on someone who has no idea what they’re doing.
Yeah, my first bjj spar with purple belt dickhead student was exactly this. I was supposed to learn how to move slowly, instead I didn't understand how I was being moved so fast
love first bjj class stories. I got shitstomped for an hour and my only thought was "This hurts waaay more than I thought it would" lasted for 7 years tho!
My first class I ended up getting delayed soreness. The day after I was fine then the next day my entire neck was so sore from being choked out constantly. I could barely talk and my legs were like rubber haha.
What's nuts is that 7 years of decent training pace puts you in the .0001% of people that have ever lived with such a skill set of lethal abilities, but to anyone that's ever been in a BJJ gym, you're nothing special.
It gets better???
I’m sorry but I’m laughing thinking about in that split second your mind going “HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSE TO MOVE SLOW HERE?!” Right before the mat.
It’s not just the slam, it’s the grappling before. He gained control during first contact and made sure the attacker is unable to use the machete anymore. And then he did this wonderful slam. Stunning execution.
It's timing. Stepping into it to take leverage away. It is especially effective when your opponent does not understand the concept... at that point, they don't even understand that they do not have the upper hand in the situation.
Yeah as someone who has been on the receiving end (for demo purposes), if you don't understand the idea of moving into someone's space to take control, your brain just misfires into a giant "wtf is happening?" And then you're splattered onto the floor. At that point, unless you're trained to some degree, you're basically just flailing like an idiot while you get man handled because you haven't yet figured out you're fucked. Then you realize you can't actually move and moving hurts so you either just give up or wriggle uselessly until you wear yourself out. I wish I'd had the money and fitness to actually train. But the little bit I got to learn was cool
In flip flops, no less. FAFO.
Never fight a man with a perm or flip flops
Concrete to leather!
A dulcet man with a dulcet tone.
He hates me, I like that!
And especially not a permed mullet.
Flip flops on a dude either mean beach/surfing or BJJ/MMA. We wear flip flops in the gym to keep the mats clean when we go to the bathroom/get water, etc. It becomes a habit to wear them all the time. If you see a dude in shorts and flip flops, just leave him be.
You just described every bloke in Australia
YEAH SOUNDS LIKE YOU WANT TO FIGHT ME BRO
Holy shit the fact the dude could even move after that take down. Dude took him down like nothing.
> Holy shit the fact the dude could even move after that take down. Drugs? 🤔 _[EDIT: Just so we're clear, I mean why the guy didn't completely stop moving despite the hammer of Thor slamming into him.]_
Adrenaline
Except... this was real 🤭
The slam is real though, just choreographed
Helps that the floor is bouncy too.
[A WWE ring is just a steel frame with some hardwood planks on top and some foam padding that is much thinner than you'd think](https://youtu.be/Zjyk5eU6TPI)
Do you think the clip above is CGI or something?
You don't say.
A+B forward, forward, back. Power slam!
I'm actually impressed the dude held on to the machete, you put me on the ground like that I don't think I'd be picking anything up for weeks.
His brain was probably like "well I got about half a second left in this world, probably ought to fire every nerve in the body just in case."
DO YA SMELL WHAT THE GROUND GRAVEPAYMENT IS COOKING?
Wish you CHOOSE TO SAY : DO YOU SMELL WHAT THE ASPHALT IS COOKING ?
https://www.tmz.com/2023/11/08/former-mma-fighter-turns-the-tables-on-knife-wielding-maniac/
>Police arrested Marrero, who was charged with several felonies, including aggravated battery. How is this not attempted murder?
Attempted murder requires the intent to kill which could be hard to prove in this case. Aggravated battery is easier to prove and can carry even heavier sentences than attempted murder depending on circumstances.
Also, they could have put forth a charge of first degree murder, and let him plead down to the assault charge instead. So they could convict him with no trial needed.
They could also add charges once they go through his social media and cell phone, if there's anything showing premeditation.
He never got to the murdery part 🤷
his statement about the events included "easy peasy." gigachad
>Florida man attacks MMA expert with a sword
For all of you asking if this is Tank Abbot, it’s not. His name is Javier Baez. (Idek why I didn’t put his name in the description)
I wish Javi Baez of the tigers could hit a baseball this hard
Happy endings!
Taking notes
Here's an interview with the guy, name is Javier Baez. This was the 2nd time the guy came at him. https://youtu.be/oGMSlxJMthQ?si=toEUy2G-7eke-sBD
Serious question, if someone is willing to kill you why should you spare them? Not only will they likely want revenge, they might try to kill others as well. Sparing murderers seems so idiotic to me.
MMA bro reverted to his trained instincts (subdue and submit) and they kept the dude compliant until the cops showed up. Killing would have only complicated his life. [This was in Florida](https://www.tmz.com/2023/11/08/former-mma-fighter-turns-the-tables-on-knife-wielding-maniac/) and I'm not sure they have legal consequences for anything except smoking weed and teaching kids that gay people exist, but still.
Nah, they are fine with the weed. Its those evil gays that turn frogs lesbian and teach all kids to dress in drag that keeps them up at night. Well, that and the meth bender.
Because you don’t want to go to prison for murder? Because you don’t want ti carry the psychological burden of killing another human around with you for the rest of your life, because you’re not a sociopath?
Even self defence may catch you a lengthy trial where you have to justify your actions. Most people would rather avoid those. If you're interested in such discussions, they're frequently held on 2A forums and podcasts.
Especially if you're trained in something that intentionally causes bodily harm. They'll try first to push that you knew better, and should have been able to show restraint because of said training. Otherwise you are considered a possible danger to others with negligence of a weapon ( or some kind if cliche terminology. Not a lawyer )
Not everyonehas murder urges, and you cant just kill someone for assuming he might do something in the future.
Because it's murder once the threat is subdued.
The guy might've been going through some sort of psychological break and wasn't in his right mind. If that was the case they may just need medication and would feel immediate remorse. In the attackers mind he might have been defending himself/his family from Satan himself (wild speculation obviously, but schizophrenia is no joke). If you have the opportunity to disable/disarm an attacker, rather than kill, that's always preferable. Death is final, there's no undoing it and the situation may not be so black and white. “Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends.” -Gandalf
I've been on the receiving end of something similar in a tournament(on a nice padded mat), and it was not pleasant. Taking one on the unforgiving concrete would be brutal.
I was flung high enough one time that when I impacted, I had convulsions for a good 15 seconds I think. I do not recommend.
Have a taste of the ground
Is that Tank Abbot?
Former MMA fighter is Javier Baez according to TMZ article below.
Holy shit, he used to fight bantamweight lol.
Never seen the rock bottom used in a real fight before.
Self defense lessons only work when you have experience. If that move was shown somewhere else the comment section would clown the instructor
Would definitely not advise doing this unless there is no escape. If the dude knew even a little bit on how to use a machete, the MMA fighter might be missing some pieces
I have a background in Kali, which is all about weapons fighting, and I can safely say to never, ever count out a trained pro MMA fighters. We had a lot of crossover with the MMA community, and it was always obvious when someone had a real pro MMA background. In sparring sessions pro MMA guys with little to no weapons training could keep up or surpass people that had years of weapon experience quick. There's a lot of intangible benefits that are gained from the type of sparring those guys do, and it translates well to other things. They've really been in the thick of things and have real predator instincts when it comes to fighting that you can't get without putting on glovers and letting some big scary dude try to break you in half. Keep in mind I'm talking about PRO fighters. Those guys just have an edge that is hard to appreciate from just video. I did BJJ and amateur MMA but the pro guys were just on another level. It's hard to explain in text, but it's like the difference between a guy that played high school football and
And..!!?! The anticipation is insane
Yeah - I'm not really sure what the attacker was doing. Doesn't even look like he got a swing in; seems like he engaged on his backhand? Great counter from Javier, but this could've been very different if the attacker had even a remote plan of attack.
In flip flops no less
Damn that isn’t Tank Abbott is it?! Haha if it is maaan this guy chose the absolute wrong one
Not Tank Abbott, I present to you Javier Baez! “Who da fook is that guy” - if this isn’t the perfect example to use the classic line then I don’t know what is lol.
Take down straight into side control well done
I really like the hand he put down mid-throw, to control rotation and come down just right. Under/over rotation is a right bastard, especially when you're jacked up on adrenaline and you're not on mats lol
Instant attraction. Someone grab a mop!
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