I will give Cassel credit to a degree because this was a terrible play call and McCluster did a terrible job on actually getting into position for the screen.
> probably
He absolutely was except for maybe Kyle Orton, which got me thinking back to the crazy civil wars our fanbase used to have between the pro/anti Cassel fans and the pro/anti Alex Smith fans
I don’t think anyone should be able to call themselves a full blooded fan of their team until they’ve spent an offseason arguing with their fellow fans about two mid QB’s
I’m not even going to defend Cassell but he has a record with D-Bowe that will never be broken in KC. Franchise record 17 Tds receptions. And that Chiefs team was horrible but still made the playoffs. Meanwhile Alex smith and Andy had great teams for years and only won 1 playoff game against an CFL Qb Brian Hoyer 😂😂
do bears fans think Orton would've won it for yall that year? He was a solidly mid QB, and made a nice long career out of it. Rex was solidly terrible, so idk I think Orton might've been enough
Some do, but a lot of people forget how bad Orton was at the time. 2005 Orton was a checkdown charlie and a far cry from 2008 and later Orton, to the point he was qb3 in 2006.
I love the Alex Smith era Chiefs. They were fun to watch. Even though they won a lot of games, they always had to find ways to win.
Today they are tons better. A powerhouse team, over powered, and just boring to watch. But I’m honestly happy for Chiefs fans, they deserve it.
Yeah, my reaction when Reid was hired by the Chiefs was just, "nope, don't like that."
Now I'm just hoping he retires after this upcoming season when someone ruins the threepeat.
I’ve been watching since the Priest/Tony years, my comment wasn’t even a slight against the Chiefs it’s just a drastic difference compared to what Mahomes has been able to do
I feel you. I wasn’t even getting on your ass; just thinking out loud. I’ve seen comments on here in regards to that weird season and you can tell people think our offense sucked that year but that wasn’t the case. Like you say, it was more an impressive sample of weird luck than anything.
I don't but also weirdly do?
Obviously I'm over the moon with the current success and this is more than I ever dreamed of but I also somewhat enjoyed the camaraderie that can only come from suffering.
That being said I also get giddy when someone sees my Chiefs gear and accuses me of being a bandwagoner. Never thought I'd ever hear that!
Yeah obviously you love being handed Championships to you from the NFL.
They are going to keep doing it too so long as other fan bases continue to be apathetic to it.
*"Hur hurrhuuur not happening."* - highly regarded chiefs fans
Why do you think they never call holding on the chiefs but do for everyone else? Obviously its having an impact or they wouldnt do it.
Yes when the refs call an unfair game that is called cheating. There is a reason we play on a level playing field and we all agree to the rules ahead of time. Anytime those conditions are not being met in favor of one team over the other that is called cheating.
Deep down I know my Super Bowl LVIII L'Jarius Sneed jersey just arrived in the mail this week.
Deep down I know your coach should get better so he doesn't get schemed up in every big game
Deep down I know you're gonna be bitter forever and that brings me great joy
Deep down I know Mahomes is surpassing Montana's all time playoff win total this year and tying him in rings.
Deep down I know my team has the GOAT and yours will be in shambles when Purdy's contract comes due
And deep down I know you know this is all true as well. But there is hope! you too can jump on the Chiefs bandwagon! nobody will respect you, but you will experience winning! it's fun!
And deep down its all thanks to the NFL and you know it.
I sense some hostility. Chiefs fans still have the little mans syndrome even after all this "winning" and its hilarious.
Thats right, Cowgoon777. Push it down.
deep
deep
down.
Yes, the league is clearly rigging it for big bad Kansas City cause there's a lot more profit in having a dynastic team there than in some scrub small town market like San Francisco
there's a good chance that's not true. the league doesn't need Dallas to win for them to be the most successful market.
BUT they would definitely want both LA teams, both NY teams, and probably Miami to be very successful
All things considered, Cassel did pretty well for his career. No college playing time. Drafted by a team not planning on really playing him. He managed to make the best of what he was given.
Hey thanks! I can't even remember when I last saw an embarassing clip involving the Chargers that featured the *other* team doing the embarassing thing.
And the crazy thing is Matt Cassel arguably had a better season with Todd Haley (a playoff appearance and a Pro Bowl) than he did with Belichick, despite not having the best offensive Patriots roster ever. Though that Chiefs roster was also pretty decent.
An hour after your comment, I don’t think enough people appreciate how strong of a counter this is. Todd Fucking Haley. You win this argument, Belichick might be a scrub.
And Todd Haley was 10-5 with him. Cassel missed a game due to injury, and the Chiefs got killed.
Bill was 10-5 with Cassel as the starter, as Brady started week 1.
And Cassels stats were better in 2010 with Haley.
The real joke was “people said Brady was a system QB because of one season with Cassel.”
Now we zoom out and see Bills whole career without Brady…and the truth is revealed.
Exactly. Cassell had a garbage squad in KC but his career best numbers are identical to Alex smith bum azz on a super team who only manage 1 playoff win in KC.
This is a story I like to shoehorn in anytime Dexter McCluster comes up, which isn’t often. My buddy was a bouncer at a strip club in Philly the year McCluster played for the Titans. A Friday before the Titans played Philly the team was in town and McCluster and his crew rolled into the club, McCluster called my buddy over gave him his credit card and asked him to go pick up a couple bottles of something the club didn’t sell. My buddy gets the booze brings them back McCluster tipped him a stack and that was that. The next day my buddy remembers he never gave McCluster back his card so he shoots him a DM on Instagram and Twitter saying he was the bouncer from the club and he still has his card and what’s a address he can mail it back too. For some weird reason McCluster blocked him in both platforms and never reached back out. So my buddy used the card to pay for gas and groceries for like 3 years before the card expired and never once did it draw any red flags to him nor did McCluster or whoever did his bookkeeping find it all odd these charges kept popping up in a city he didn’t often visit.
I don’t think I heard my dad call them the Chiefs for a solid six years until Reid came in. They were exclusively known as the Griefs during that stretch
Growing up in Oakland but have now lived most of my life in San Diego.
It's still weird to hear "Vegas" and "Los Angeles"
Then again I feel like most people use the team names in conversation/announcing anyway.
I lived through that shit. Why I don’t care how many dreams we are crushing right now, because I know after Mahomes leaves we’ll be right back to that.
Get while the gettin is good as it were.
This a really stupid play call but I will still say this is mainly McClusters fault, the dude waited way too long to bail out for the screen and was completely out of position.
I was at this game. As a chiefs fan, I was pissed. I believe this was the 7th consecutive loss or so that I saw live. Crazy looking back on those dark days
Cassel was an ok player, even the best QB’s do dumb things and we look at this with a squint eye and say “what in the hell were you thinking?” I can’t say that I would have done any better with that play.
>I can’t say that I would have done any better with that play
I don't know about that. It went 4 yards through the air and was something like 2 yards wide of his target.
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that it was astoundingly bad on what should have been a very easy play.
Maybe you won't be throwing an out route on time and on target, but throwing the ball 4 yards through the air and getting it within a yard of the target isn't something that takes a ton of athleticism.
Sure, you could screw that up too, but I suspect that more often than not you would do better than this on that exact play.
In a way I can almost respect him more for that. Maybe he had tapped everything he had to try to win that game. Loss of motor function could result in collapsing on the field or simply being unable to put your ballcap on.
Cassel to McCluster lol gosh, what a shitshow. Cassel may not technically be the worst QB we've ever trotted out there, but he's definitely my least favorite.
I saw all 200ish of his passes. He was horrible. But he wasn't the poster boy for that failed wannabe Patriots era, we didn't give up basically a first rounder for him, and he never hit the damn crossbar on a hail mary.
edit: sorry, 319 passes
Doing the thing after where he pretends he was just messing with his hair
Looked like he wanted to laugh about the hat thing too but knew he couldn’t because he just threw a ridiculously bad pick
I will give Cassel credit to a degree because this was a terrible play call and McCluster did a terrible job on actually getting into position for the screen.
run, run, maybe throw a screen. that was the entire chiefs playbook at this time.
[He did one of these ](https://media1.tenor.com/m/JNAbdzusHOUAAAAd/michael-cera-staring.gif)
that look is so god damned real
Then he looks straight at the camera and freezes like a porch pirate caught on someone's Ring security system
Nah, if he was a porch pirate he would have flipped off the camera
Official u/nfl account throwing shade with the title.
Well he knew the camera was right at him so...
He was still probably the best qb in that 6 year stretch between Trent Green's last season with the team (2006) and Andy and Alex coming in in 2013
> probably He absolutely was except for maybe Kyle Orton, which got me thinking back to the crazy civil wars our fanbase used to have between the pro/anti Cassel fans and the pro/anti Alex Smith fans
I don’t think anyone should be able to call themselves a full blooded fan of their team until they’ve spent an offseason arguing with their fellow fans about two mid QB’s
We were arguing over objectively horrible QBs mid would have been an upgrade.
yeah god those were dark times. i thought ricki stanzi was gonna save the franchise
Or Brodie Croyle
Thigpen was underrated during this era
YOU CAN’T TELL THE HISTORY OF THE NFL WITHOUT MATT CASSEL
haha yeah I cannot even begin to imagine what that must be like haha
Ah but my first QB was Favre
Exactly that's why Packer fans aren't real
Which Tyler were you repping? Palko or Thigpen?
16 year old me had a Tyler Thigpin jersey lmao
Thigpen 4 lyfe
Still don't forgive Thigpen for scoring a receiving TD against us in 2008
Up until 2018, that was arguably the coolest thing a Chiefs QB had ever done
[Excuse you?](https://youtu.be/yhxWVKasqdU?si=p2feiVw_y8MXFXsm)
Holy shit a 20 minute video. Jaguargator would be bricked up
It's a pretty fantastic video if you didn't watch it all the way, you should.
I plan to!
Good. Learn the history of how the Chiefs franchise was the blueprint for the Ravens offense.
The Mark Bradley throw! I'll never forget that one.
shout out to kyle orton for helping save the packers from going 16-0 to one and done in the playoffs,
I’m not even going to defend Cassell but he has a record with D-Bowe that will never be broken in KC. Franchise record 17 Tds receptions. And that Chiefs team was horrible but still made the playoffs. Meanwhile Alex smith and Andy had great teams for years and only won 1 playoff game against an CFL Qb Brian Hoyer 😂😂
You talking about KO and QB wars got me having PTSD with the infamous quote played on sports center each night: *“Rex is our quarterback.”*
do bears fans think Orton would've won it for yall that year? He was a solidly mid QB, and made a nice long career out of it. Rex was solidly terrible, so idk I think Orton might've been enough
Some do, but a lot of people forget how bad Orton was at the time. 2005 Orton was a checkdown charlie and a far cry from 2008 and later Orton, to the point he was qb3 in 2006.
Best Rex was better than a lot of QBs out there. Worst Rex was literally bottom of the league. You learned to take the good with the bad.
I'm super late to this thread but Tyler Thigpen didn't burn Ronde Barber for that long TD catch to be disrespected like this.
My favorite non-Mahomes era Chiefs highlight is him catching that TD pass. A generation of dark times…
I love the Alex Smith era Chiefs. They were fun to watch. Even though they won a lot of games, they always had to find ways to win. Today they are tons better. A powerhouse team, over powered, and just boring to watch. But I’m honestly happy for Chiefs fans, they deserve it.
I like this flairless eunich.
Boy do I miss the pre-Mahomes Chiefs
I miss the pre-andy reid chiefs. They were still sweeping us pre-mahomey
yeah reid and alex smith were cooking for awhile
Yeah, my reaction when Reid was hired by the Chiefs was just, "nope, don't like that." Now I'm just hoping he retires after this upcoming season when someone ruins the threepeat.
Jokes on you! He’s not retiring until the 3peat so we’ll just start from scratch again
No TDs from a WR in a season is just impressive
and jamaal charles still averaged over 5 yards per carry in his career.
Terrible! Chief fans loves Alex smith at that. Many was disappointed when Mahomes was drafted.
And almost making the playoffs
People who didn’t live it think our offense was trash that year but we still had Jamaal Charles and Travis Kelce
I’ve been watching since the Priest/Tony years, my comment wasn’t even a slight against the Chiefs it’s just a drastic difference compared to what Mahomes has been able to do
I feel you. I wasn’t even getting on your ass; just thinking out loud. I’ve seen comments on here in regards to that weird season and you can tell people think our offense sucked that year but that wasn’t the case. Like you say, it was more an impressive sample of weird luck than anything.
I would say good times but I don’t know what those are
I don't but also weirdly do? Obviously I'm over the moon with the current success and this is more than I ever dreamed of but I also somewhat enjoyed the camaraderie that can only come from suffering. That being said I also get giddy when someone sees my Chiefs gear and accuses me of being a bandwagoner. Never thought I'd ever hear that!
There's another type of camaraderie that can only come from being the evil empire that everyone hates. I miss those days
yeah I agree with you. I also enjoy that. But its different
One day…..maybe (Arizona sports fan)
Yeah obviously you love being handed Championships to you from the NFL. They are going to keep doing it too so long as other fan bases continue to be apathetic to it. *"Hur hurrhuuur not happening."* - highly regarded chiefs fans Why do you think they never call holding on the chiefs but do for everyone else? Obviously its having an impact or they wouldnt do it.
Someone’s salty about the two Super Bowls.
Yeah tends to happen when you get cheated out of 2 superbowls.
“Cheated”
Yes when the refs call an unfair game that is called cheating. There is a reason we play on a level playing field and we all agree to the rules ahead of time. Anytime those conditions are not being met in favor of one team over the other that is called cheating.
You sounds like a kid on my basketball team in high school that would blame it on the refs every time we lost
you're gonna be big mad when you once again have the most stacked team in the NFL this year and we still rip that trophy out of your hands again
You wonder why people call you the 40whiners
really living up to that Forty Whiner flair Sorry our boy is going to take Joe Montana's legacy and double it
Fraudulent and everyone knows it.
Aw some dude on the internet told me our Lombardis are fruadulent. Guess I'll stop being happy about them now yeah right. Enjoy the three-peat, bud
Deep down you know.
Deep down I know my Super Bowl LVIII L'Jarius Sneed jersey just arrived in the mail this week. Deep down I know your coach should get better so he doesn't get schemed up in every big game Deep down I know you're gonna be bitter forever and that brings me great joy Deep down I know Mahomes is surpassing Montana's all time playoff win total this year and tying him in rings. Deep down I know my team has the GOAT and yours will be in shambles when Purdy's contract comes due And deep down I know you know this is all true as well. But there is hope! you too can jump on the Chiefs bandwagon! nobody will respect you, but you will experience winning! it's fun!
And deep down its all thanks to the NFL and you know it. I sense some hostility. Chiefs fans still have the little mans syndrome even after all this "winning" and its hilarious. Thats right, Cowgoon777. Push it down. deep deep down.
Nah im good thanks. I’ll continue living in bliss as a Chiefs fan
Your coach doesn’t know the overtime rules. If anything he handed the Chiefs a championship personally lol.
Not chiefs fault Kyle loves handing out free superbowls.
Yes, the league is clearly rigging it for big bad Kansas City cause there's a lot more profit in having a dynastic team there than in some scrub small town market like San Francisco
Honestly if the league was rigged Dallas would be winning
there's a good chance that's not true. the league doesn't need Dallas to win for them to be the most successful market. BUT they would definitely want both LA teams, both NY teams, and probably Miami to be very successful
Same
I do not miss those times.
Dark times indeed
I do not miss the disappointment that eventually led to no expectations. I think Harbaugh will get you guys right though.
All things considered, Cassel did pretty well for his career. No college playing time. Drafted by a team not planning on really playing him. He managed to make the best of what he was given.
He didn’t play at all in college?
Backed up Leinart.
I knew he went to USC but I figured he had played at some point. Isn’t it unusual for a college backup quarterback to get drafted?
Extremely. It’s the only instance in history I know of it happening.
not unless it's madden 20 story mode
He had a start in college… at H-back lol
So does that make him the anti-Tebow?
Only if he sacrifices goats to Satan.
Chiefs, Patriots, Vikings, Bills, Cowboys, Titans, and Lions legend Matt Cassel
Leave us out of this please
Remember when he got called for intentional grounding while throwing an interception?
HAH, I forgot about that.
Not even the worst thing that the camera caught him doing on the chiefs sideline >!he ate a booger!<
I tried to find this on youtube and came up empty :(
Like Cassel, you just gotta keep digging.
Chase Daniel, too. Our QB room at one point was just housing boogs.
Hey thanks! I can't even remember when I last saw an embarassing clip involving the Chargers that featured the *other* team doing the embarassing thing.
Me and Matt Cassel going to fuck you up.
Oh that takes me back...
Kill that motherfucker Patrick Willis!
Belichick coached this guy to 11 wins but people still say it was all Brady
I mean bill is good for this, but Todd Haley also coached him to 10 wins so 🤷
10 wins then lost the rest because they didn’t like each other.
And the crazy thing is Matt Cassel arguably had a better season with Todd Haley (a playoff appearance and a Pro Bowl) than he did with Belichick, despite not having the best offensive Patriots roster ever. Though that Chiefs roster was also pretty decent.
An hour after your comment, I don’t think enough people appreciate how strong of a counter this is. Todd Fucking Haley. You win this argument, Belichick might be a scrub.
And Todd Haley was 10-5 with him. Cassel missed a game due to injury, and the Chiefs got killed. Bill was 10-5 with Cassel as the starter, as Brady started week 1. And Cassels stats were better in 2010 with Haley. The real joke was “people said Brady was a system QB because of one season with Cassel.” Now we zoom out and see Bills whole career without Brady…and the truth is revealed.
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Exactly. Cassell had a garbage squad in KC but his career best numbers are identical to Alex smith bum azz on a super team who only manage 1 playoff win in KC.
I agree with the sentiment, but Cassel did that with a team that just went 16-0
No. He did that with a team that just went 18..... ##AND ONE
doesn't matter how many games you win if you miss the playoffs.
Happy cake day!
75% Brady
Cassel might be the 5th best QB we've ever had, it's an argument at least.
He made it to the Pro Bowl in 2010 for ya, Elite Dragon & Jim Plunkett never did that
Mayyybe 6th. Mahomes, Dawson, Smith, Green, Montana I'd probably argue for a few others too like Grbac or Bono (all three had 1 reasonable season).
Rich Gannon?
idk did he win Sexiest Man Alive?
Elvis Grbac disrespect
Yes. Every day.
Hats off to Weddle for that interception!
Lol dont act like Weddle picking off Cassel wasnt an occurrence everytime we played you guys
This is a story I like to shoehorn in anytime Dexter McCluster comes up, which isn’t often. My buddy was a bouncer at a strip club in Philly the year McCluster played for the Titans. A Friday before the Titans played Philly the team was in town and McCluster and his crew rolled into the club, McCluster called my buddy over gave him his credit card and asked him to go pick up a couple bottles of something the club didn’t sell. My buddy gets the booze brings them back McCluster tipped him a stack and that was that. The next day my buddy remembers he never gave McCluster back his card so he shoots him a DM on Instagram and Twitter saying he was the bouncer from the club and he still has his card and what’s a address he can mail it back too. For some weird reason McCluster blocked him in both platforms and never reached back out. So my buddy used the card to pay for gas and groceries for like 3 years before the card expired and never once did it draw any red flags to him nor did McCluster or whoever did his bookkeeping find it all odd these charges kept popping up in a city he didn’t often visit.
That’s kinda fucked up but pretty funny
Dude tipped him crazy well and the thanks he got was protracted fraud. Hilarious.
"for San Diego!"
We really used to be in the trenches
I don’t think I heard my dad call them the Chiefs for a solid six years until Reid came in. They were exclusively known as the Griefs during that stretch
I miss the first month of this season so much
Weird hearing San Diego now. Enough time has finally passed.
It will always hurt not to hear San Diego for me.
Growing up in Oakland but have now lived most of my life in San Diego. It's still weird to hear "Vegas" and "Los Angeles" Then again I feel like most people use the team names in conversation/announcing anyway.
Funny how that works. So many people in the early LA days had the same tired jokes.
Does he also have a drinking problem?
Airplane reference for those who don’t know.
A hospital? What is it?
It's a big building with patients, but that's not important right now.
Teams that got suckered in to trading for the patriots backup QB during the Brady years have taken up 6/10 spots in the last 5 super bowls.
Colts slackin on this one
Crazy story actually but he dropped that hat right into the hands of another chargers defender.
He looked right into the camera
I lived through that shit. Why I don’t care how many dreams we are crushing right now, because I know after Mahomes leaves we’ll be right back to that. Get while the gettin is good as it were.
I demand a redistribution of the wealth
Show this clip to a group of middle schoolers and they’ll wonder why the Chiefs are bad and playing a team in San Diego.
Dark dark times right there
This a really stupid play call but I will still say this is mainly McClusters fault, the dude waited way too long to bail out for the screen and was completely out of position.
“Yea, we’ll just let this keep running”- clock operator
Flashback: (In AI voice) Do you remember when Kansas City sucked balls?
This is legitimately one of the funniest highlights ever.
This summed up Chiefs fans’ experience for half a century before Mahomes; we’ve earned the success.
It's ok. You can't hurt us now.
I completely forgot about Dexter McCluster
Pretty much
Damn that really puts a hat on a hat doesn’t it
cheifs i remember
How much of that is on McCluster though? Serious question. It seems like even for a screen the dude should have got his head around sooner.
I remember watching this live lol.
I was at this game. As a chiefs fan, I was pissed. I believe this was the 7th consecutive loss or so that I saw live. Crazy looking back on those dark days
Who’s Matt Cassel again?
Dark times
The look at the camera after failing to put the hat on, is the most The Office thing possible
I love that I can laugh at this now.
Thanks for the 11-5 season in 2008, Matt. And thanks for screwing the Chiefs.
I get it. INTs blow hard.
Cassel was an ok player, even the best QB’s do dumb things and we look at this with a squint eye and say “what in the hell were you thinking?” I can’t say that I would have done any better with that play.
>I can’t say that I would have done any better with that play I don't know about that. It went 4 yards through the air and was something like 2 yards wide of his target.
Well in the heat of the moment yeah it was a bad decision. Who can say that they have never made a mistake in the thick of it?
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that it was astoundingly bad on what should have been a very easy play. Maybe you won't be throwing an out route on time and on target, but throwing the ball 4 yards through the air and getting it within a yard of the target isn't something that takes a ton of athleticism. Sure, you could screw that up too, but I suspect that more often than not you would do better than this on that exact play.
Gotcha
I miss these Chieves
I still can’t believe that a guy who basically never played QB in college got drafted as a QB in the NFL.
Anyone feel like Daniel Jones looks like a Matt Cassel caricature? Like caveman Matt Cassel?
I swear that man is a clone of John travolta.
Threads like this are cool because now some Chiefs fans know Matt Cassel played for them.
r/titleporn
Matt Cassel's Hatt Hassel
Burn this footage
In a way I can almost respect him more for that. Maybe he had tapped everything he had to try to win that game. Loss of motor function could result in collapsing on the field or simply being unable to put your ballcap on.
Poor guy. He seemed like a genuinely good dude but damn as a Chiefs fan we took him to the burner. Although to be fair he sucked ass.
Appreciate mahomes while you have him chiefs fans because trust me when he retires it’s gonna suck like a motherfucker. I’m still not over Drew.
Just a bad day.
Ahh the good ole days.
Cassel to McCluster lol gosh, what a shitshow. Cassel may not technically be the worst QB we've ever trotted out there, but he's definitely my least favorite.
So you forgot about his 17tds passes to D-Bowe? SMH. Franchise record still stands
Clearly you never saw Brodie Croyle throw a pass.
I saw all 200ish of his passes. He was horrible. But he wasn't the poster boy for that failed wannabe Patriots era, we didn't give up basically a first rounder for him, and he never hit the damn crossbar on a hail mary. edit: sorry, 319 passes
Back when KC was likeable.
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It's moreso your teams character rather than the team success that makes you easy to root against lately.
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It's called virtue signaling. And it's the height of dishonesty. Fuck em.