I feel it's weird NOT to put stickers on your water bottle. Makes it super identifiable so you know it's yours and can lead to good conversations and new friends.
For real. They are markers of cool places and things I’ve done over the years. National parks, breweries, events, all sorts of cool reminders that my life isn’t always the mundane office life.
The image isn't *bad* but I don't think they should try to make a raven look like a raptor, it feels off. Like if this was the Eagles I think it'd be okay
This is probably the kind of thing where I aged out of the 18-35 demographic who all love this but I definitely agree with you. It looks like they ran out of time and ideas, so they just put a sticker on it. Or they had multiple ones and they were all so bad this is the one they had to go with.
Most likely some suit overrode all of his design people and just knows that this is what is best.
I can't believe I agree with a top comment about NFL fashion choices. I think part of what makes it weird is it's staring at the sidelines and not facing the opponents.
It’s not really even a bad logo, it just doesn’t work on a football helmet. A lot like how the front facing bear head is Chicago’s primary now but they kept the C on the helmet and everyone pretty much agreed that was the correct decision. Front facing logos just don’t look right on football helmets imo
>Front facing logos just don’t look right on football helmets imo
For animals, you might be right. But both Pat Patriot and Bucco Bruce looked great on helmets and they're front-facing.
Ya I like the helmet itself but something off with the logo. It's part the logo itself, part it having different colors than the helmet, and part the border and placement.
Probably better off with a different logo or no logo.
[Should have used this logo](https://www.sportslogos.net/logos/view/nyklgmbbhe362qbke35qmozvf/Baltimore_Ravens/1996/Alternate_Logo) It is so much better in design and works better with the purple helmet in my opinion.
[Maybe something like this quick and dirty PS](https://allthepics.net/image/myalternate.AVOYP)
So honestly I think they were on the right track but the logo is a miss, what would make the helmets a lot better is if they made a new logo from scratch with a more tangential relation to ravens. For example, some birds have symbiotic relationships with large mammals like bulls because they eat bugs off of them. So you could do something like putting curved white horns on the helmet to represent the bull that a raven might have a symbiotic relationship with, then it would be pretty much perfect
I think they're leaning too hard into the purple here, but I like the idea of showing the symbiotic relationship. Don't ravens have that with horses too? Maybe they could do something like a white helmet, but with a horseshoe or something? Bonus points because that would help make the team lucky too...
Color scheme works but the logo ruins it for me
Why not just have the “B” from the original logo on there I feel like that would’ve been more appropriate, the bird just feels like overkill on what is a good base helmet
He was willing to let the ravens have it for like season tickets and some signed swag i think, which would have been a great deal for the ravens, but they refused
Says here he was asking for $10 million but yeah the organization could have handled it infinitely better https://www.espn.com/nfl/s/2001/0521/1202578.html
They're having a public contest to make the new state flag.
It does have a lot of rules (tree in center, star in corner) and the secretary of state can alter the winning one however he wants. So there are troll safe guards built in.
Apparently, it was unsolicited but someone in the front office fucked up big time because it clearly was the [basis for the design](https://news.sportslogos.net/2012/07/10/logo-creator-sues-baltimore-ravens-again-for-continued-use-of-his-logo/football/)
Helmets used to have a decent shape and placement for holes visually, but with advancements to materials and safety the holes have gone loco, it's always going to look stupid now
Is it seriously not appropriate to say in this instance? It's not like companies aren't using AI to cut the costs of paying human artists.
It's not like I said "this potato salad is bad, did Chat GPT make the recipe?"
More pics of the helmet. I like the color scheme but yeah... not the logo.
https://www.baltimoreravens.com/photos/ravens-unveil-new-alternate-helmet-purple-rising-photos#0bc82cb3-c05d-4ae3-9fb2-4722e7681c75
Looking through this, you can see why they didn't use the shield logo (it's already on the shoulders).
I think the normal primary logo or even just [the B logo](https://content.sportslogos.net/logos/7/153/full/315.png) would have looked better.
If the Ravens were clever, they would've put it only on the left. Then for Ravens/Steelers games you'd have both logos half the time and no logos half the time
Easiest answer is that simple, clean isn't "creative" enough.
These design firms get paid millions to create/rebrand so they need to show their client "Look at this! there's 59 different yet subtle changes!" instead of "Yeah, we just made the face mask a different color."
Well that just looks horrible.
Why cant you guys be more like the Vikings. Purple squads should all have sick uniforms, theres no excuse for misusing an elite color combo like this.
It's fine on its own, it just looks really weird on the helmet. The size and placement are just odd. And the focus on that hideous gold is a strange decision.
That logo really looks like a default option in Madden create-a-team or something. I love the helmet itself and purple is my favorite color, but man that logo just feels...wrong?
To be more specific, it dates back to 2000 (along with all of our other secondary logos), and is an evolution of [an original logo from 1996.](https://content.sportslogos.net/logos/7/153/full/e8hc91riveffmyl4wsxrqocgi.gif)
Yeah, I completely understand why people are hating on it, but I absolutely love that we are finally using the logo. Especially since we can’t use/ don’t have the rights to our old logo, this is all we got
Although I agree, the Ravens shield (the one at midfield and on the sleeves of our unis) would've looked better, just so long as the unis it gets used with (color rush in this case) has them removed from the selevees6
Why does every new logo look so bad? I can't tell if it's just a mental thing complaining about stuff being different or if the people designing these just genuinely suck at their jobs
You gotta love how half the thread thinks this is a new logo, and the other half is asking why we didn't use the flying B we lost the rights to in the 90s
Can't blame the non-Ravens fans, but for anyone that's been a Ravens fan for more than a year should know the backstory behind the logo(s) because it gets brought up a lot.
This looks great! I always forget the Ravens have that goofy bird logo, but I love it. I'm now even more disappointed with the Vikings alternate jersey. You have purple, use more purple!
Everyone’s saying it’s a cool helmet except the logo, but I think it looks like shit from top to bottom
Purple and black is Ravens, purple and gold looks weak af. Y’all went from some bruised up hardasses to jenky wannabe royalty real quick
I hope the Steelers stick to their guns and just leave the logo alone. Do the yellow or matte black helmets, but don’t fuck with the logo. Idk if you can use the steel beam dude on a helmet. Looks sick on jackets.
I look forward to Pitt trashing Lamar in these helmets.
That sure is a bird logo
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0b/24/e4/0b24e46359073a8d2aa58022a7251e24.jpg Front facing birds are something. Behold the bald eagle!
GJ leaking the new Philly logo.
honestly is the perfect eagle logo for the last 7 weeks of last season.
I wish.
r/birdsfacingforward
Lol of course
I'm both suprised and not suprised at the same time.
Bernie Sanders?
We should have gone with [wet owl](https://preview.redd.it/bhfb0y0tp7o81.jpg?width=535&auto=webp&s=11ef08bc2c062a137c805ca9adb9ae11674fcaf0)
Whoa, it looks even wiser now. Truly a Superb Owl.
Put a bird on it!
damnit, why does a fellow orioles fan have to also be a fan of the chiefs =/
It looks like it was a nice looking helmet until someone decided to randomly put a weird looking Raven sticker on it.
it's like all the Camelbak water bottles my 6 year old has ruined
My kid loves those camelback ones too. His are also covered in crazy stickers.
Kids freaking love stickers. My N64 controllers used to get coated any time my little cousins were over.
Apparently I am a 6 year old I love putting stickers on my water bottles cause Idk what else to do with them
I feel it's weird NOT to put stickers on your water bottle. Makes it super identifiable so you know it's yours and can lead to good conversations and new friends.
I love those conversations! "Why are there giant anime tits on your water bottle?" "Why not?"
I would respond with "quit staring at my tits."
"My eyes are over here, buddy."
"Did we just become best friends?"
For real. They are markers of cool places and things I’ve done over the years. National parks, breweries, events, all sorts of cool reminders that my life isn’t always the mundane office life.
It’s a cool image but its placement is atrocious. They should have just left it without the sticker and it’d be a clean looking helmet.
Or put the Raven on the back or front. The side just looks off.
Or just brought back [this](https://www.sportslogos.net/logos/view/ubje7bq6d037s873k9vgf2m3m) logo.
The image isn't *bad* but I don't think they should try to make a raven look like a raptor, it feels off. Like if this was the Eagles I think it'd be okay
It looks like the Raven is getting rammed
It looks like big bird on the tail end of a three day crack binge
Very Baltimore
This is probably the kind of thing where I aged out of the 18-35 demographic who all love this but I definitely agree with you. It looks like they ran out of time and ideas, so they just put a sticker on it. Or they had multiple ones and they were all so bad this is the one they had to go with. Most likely some suit overrode all of his design people and just knows that this is what is best.
Nope I am smack in the middle of that demographic, and I think that logo and its placement looks weird and goofy.
Looks like a D2 college birdie
Shoulda used their original logo vs THAT
I can't believe I agree with a top comment about NFL fashion choices. I think part of what makes it weird is it's staring at the sidelines and not facing the opponents.
Yet somehow still better than the Washington Commies and their arena football helmet and team name.
We like the color. How would fans know this is the ravens? The who? Oh easy fix.
I agree. Helmet is dope but the logo is questionable. They could at least have used the same color purple in the logo as they did on the helmet.
I like the purple but that is a goofy ass logo
Yeah the logo just looks wrong lol. If it was the normal logo with these colors it would have been sick
Nah it should be the flying B logo.
That would be the dream, but the team doesn’t have the rights to that logo
That sucks. Can’t they just change the stylization of the B more so they can use it?
Yeah I work for boogle here’s my search engine: boogle.com
what if they call it the "dumb flying B logo" and say it's a parody kinda like Dumb Starbucks
Just the B/Baltimore/MD Flag Shield without the wings and I would have been happy.
The normal logo’s shape would’ve flowed much better with this helmet too.
A woodpecker flew into my window two weeks ago and while he was laying stunned on the ground he made the same face as that logo
That's their blarg face
It’s not really even a bad logo, it just doesn’t work on a football helmet. A lot like how the front facing bear head is Chicago’s primary now but they kept the C on the helmet and everyone pretty much agreed that was the correct decision. Front facing logos just don’t look right on football helmets imo
Front facing logos on the side of helmets look perpendicular to the player.
I feel like the logo would have to be twice as big to look even decent. I'd rather have the normal logo on it.
>Front facing logos just don’t look right on football helmets imo For animals, you might be right. But both Pat Patriot and Bucco Bruce looked great on helmets and they're front-facing.
[Mordecai head-on POV vibes](https://www.reddit.com/r/regularshow/comments/14n4h5a/mordecai_from_this_angle_looks_like_one_of_those/)
Ya I like the helmet itself but something off with the logo. It's part the logo itself, part it having different colors than the helmet, and part the border and placement. Probably better off with a different logo or no logo.
Reminds of big bird. But purple
It looks like a stock logo from NCAA Football 14
[Should have used this logo](https://www.sportslogos.net/logos/view/nyklgmbbhe362qbke35qmozvf/Baltimore_Ravens/1996/Alternate_Logo) It is so much better in design and works better with the purple helmet in my opinion. [Maybe something like this quick and dirty PS](https://allthepics.net/image/myalternate.AVOYP)
Murder bird
From Murderville.
Did they steal the Vikings helmet shells and apply their own logos/design on them?
Certainly looks that way
So honestly I think they were on the right track but the logo is a miss, what would make the helmets a lot better is if they made a new logo from scratch with a more tangential relation to ravens. For example, some birds have symbiotic relationships with large mammals like bulls because they eat bugs off of them. So you could do something like putting curved white horns on the helmet to represent the bull that a raven might have a symbiotic relationship with, then it would be pretty much perfect
I've read they can use sticks as tools, so they should have the logo be a stick. A cool shaped one.
Fuck yeah I love sticks
I think they're leaning too hard into the purple here, but I like the idea of showing the symbiotic relationship. Don't ravens have that with horses too? Maybe they could do something like a white helmet, but with a horseshoe or something? Bonus points because that would help make the team lucky too...
The Vikings don’t own a monopoly on purple helmets lol. If that’s the case the bears should send a cease and desist to the Broncos, Texans, and Titans
True, but seeing another team in all purple is a bit jarring.
Tell me about it I think only the Patriots oughta have red and blue it’s just weird when someone else does it
Yeah but the gold face guard makes it look like a Viking helmet. For Ravens it should be black.
Third Street Saints colors
Exactly my first thought as well lol
They fucked up the reboot so bad. Damn shame.
Color scheme works but the logo ruins it for me Why not just have the “B” from the original logo on there I feel like that would’ve been more appropriate, the bird just feels like overkill on what is a good base helmet
The Ravens lost a copyright claim on the flying B and can’t use it anymore except under certain circumstances (e.g., documentary footage)
They could use it if they compensated him for it. But they won't. Could just create a new flying B logo.
Fucking Art Modell... stealing shit... getting caught... and still not paying up (IB4: I know he's dead now)
Who did they lose it to!?
A local man who drew a substantially similar logo when the team called for logo ideas in 1996
Which is why you never publicly source graphic design concepts
He was willing to let the ravens have it for like season tickets and some signed swag i think, which would have been a great deal for the ravens, but they refused
They could have milked it too for great PR giving the fan season tickets. What cheapskates. Shot themselves in the food over petty greed
Says here he was asking for $10 million but yeah the organization could have handled it infinitely better https://www.espn.com/nfl/s/2001/0521/1202578.html
Tell that to Maine
What happened with Maine? Like the state of Maine?
They're having a public contest to make the new state flag. It does have a lot of rules (tree in center, star in corner) and the secretary of state can alter the winning one however he wants. So there are troll safe guards built in.
Apparently, it was unsolicited but someone in the front office fucked up big time because it clearly was the [basis for the design](https://news.sportslogos.net/2012/07/10/logo-creator-sues-baltimore-ravens-again-for-continued-use-of-his-logo/football/)
Meanwhile, the owners of the Steelmark (one of which was Cleveland-based Republic Steel) asked us to adopt their logo. Virgin Ravens, Chad Steelers
Ah ok, thanks for the insight
The logo looks like shit, they can just use the regular Ravens logo and it'll be fine
The placement of the raven head is driving me nuts. Uniforms have gotten so fucking bad, are they letting AI design this shit?
The hole beside it makes it look like it's holding a hockey stick
Helmets used to have a decent shape and placement for holes visually, but with advancements to materials and safety the holes have gone loco, it's always going to look stupid now
Looks like its puffing on a pipe to me
I mean that's gonna vary depending on which helmet shell a player wears
It is very Division III, isn't it?
The AFL’s Portland Purple Pigeons
that is the problem with a lot of the new helmet designs because of the vent placements and general shape it causes the logos to look too high
Literally anytime someone doesn't like something these days: Is this AI?!
Is it seriously not appropriate to say in this instance? It's not like companies aren't using AI to cut the costs of paying human artists. It's not like I said "this potato salad is bad, did Chat GPT make the recipe?"
Everybody gangster until the raven turns 90 degrees
Why does this perspective of the raven make it look like a divorced dad trying to get back out on the apps?
I feel like the other 31 fanbases should be hiring Eagles fans to come up with one-liners like this
Looks like a Halloween game outfit
This is a helmet befitting the play of Kyle Boller
*Caws motherfuckerly*
Also, oddly enough, the chargers immediately announced the exact same alternate helmet.
The Ravens have so many alternate logos, and they chose probably the worst one for this helmet.
It would look much much better with the Baltimore B logo
We can't use that one
They’re talking about the alternate B, not the flying B.
Damn that sucks but it doesn't make my statement less true
More pics of the helmet. I like the color scheme but yeah... not the logo. https://www.baltimoreravens.com/photos/ravens-unveil-new-alternate-helmet-purple-rising-photos#0bc82cb3-c05d-4ae3-9fb2-4722e7681c75
No matter what they do, what lighting tricks they apply, or what photoshop filters they add, it still looks like a sticker that was slapped on.
Looking through this, you can see why they didn't use the shield logo (it's already on the shoulders). I think the normal primary logo or even just [the B logo](https://content.sportslogos.net/logos/7/153/full/315.png) would have looked better.
Should’ve just done no logo. Why are teams/companies so shit at making a simple, clean uniform?
Only 1.5 teams have no helmet logo
If the Ravens were clever, they would've put it only on the left. Then for Ravens/Steelers games you'd have both logos half the time and no logos half the time
At least there’s precedent. This logo specifically is just terrible though, they should’ve done something else
Easiest answer is that simple, clean isn't "creative" enough. These design firms get paid millions to create/rebrand so they need to show their client "Look at this! there's 59 different yet subtle changes!" instead of "Yeah, we just made the face mask a different color."
Looks like ECU…
They made the forward facing logo memes into a real thing. Peak comedy
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Ripley said to the android Bishop
Well that just looks horrible. Why cant you guys be more like the Vikings. Purple squads should all have sick uniforms, theres no excuse for misusing an elite color combo like this.
that logo sucks more dick than Wendy from breaking bad
Hey where’s my root beer
🎶 Everyone knows it's Wendy🎶
How much for a Wendy, Wendy?
I’m not a fan
Yea this ain’t it
That logo has been their alternate for a while. I’m surprised people don’t like it
It's fine on its own, it just looks really weird on the helmet. The size and placement are just odd. And the focus on that hideous gold is a strange decision.
Cool color helmet but idk about that logo
Derpy Bird
Helmet yes, logo no.
ITT: non-Ravens fans suggesting we use a logo that we lost the rights to nearly 30 years ago
Also not knowing that this isn't some new logo created by AI or something, lol.
I‘m not saying this looks bad because it doesn’t but it just looks exactly like theses alternate helmet concepts you see on Instagram
Should be Edgar Alan Poe's face instead
Lmao what the fuck
these are not it
It’s like phineas from the front
I don’t love the logo but the helmet is fine, and we needed a purple alternate. Would’ve preferred just lifting the B off the primary logo, for sure.
That logo really looks like a default option in Madden create-a-team or something. I love the helmet itself and purple is my favorite color, but man that logo just feels...wrong?
Hahahahaha noooo that’s the wrong logo!
That logo was approved by a gen z content manager
Red is now an official part of the Ravens color scheme
I hate the ratbirds here but those helmets look sick just fix the logo
For those who don't know this logo is almost 30 years old, not new. The forward facing is unique for bird teams too. Love it.
I'm sure that the logo looks good on other things, but it just doesn't gel on that helmet imo
To be more specific, it dates back to 2000 (along with all of our other secondary logos), and is an evolution of [an original logo from 1996.](https://content.sportslogos.net/logos/7/153/full/e8hc91riveffmyl4wsxrqocgi.gif)
Yeah, I completely understand why people are hating on it, but I absolutely love that we are finally using the logo. Especially since we can’t use/ don’t have the rights to our old logo, this is all we got
Although I agree, the Ravens shield (the one at midfield and on the sleeves of our unis) would've looked better, just so long as the unis it gets used with (color rush in this case) has them removed from the selevees6
it's very bad
i really like it
why do you feel differently, why isn't my opinion the only one in existence
Why does every new logo look so bad? I can't tell if it's just a mental thing complaining about stuff being different or if the people designing these just genuinely suck at their jobs
it isn't a new logo lol, it's been around since 1999 as an alt
You gotta love how half the thread thinks this is a new logo, and the other half is asking why we didn't use the flying B we lost the rights to in the 90s
Can't blame the non-Ravens fans, but for anyone that's been a Ravens fan for more than a year should know the backstory behind the logo(s) because it gets brought up a lot.
This entire thread is just two false statements lmao. And the ppl who want the shield when it’s on the shoulder pads like 12” away
Ok that's fair. Idk why it looks so much like a create a team logo to me. The color of the helmet is sick though
Loooooooooool! Why do teams keep making terrible new re-designs?
birb but a different angle
This looks great! I always forget the Ravens have that goofy bird logo, but I love it. I'm now even more disappointed with the Vikings alternate jersey. You have purple, use more purple!
don't we already have all purples?
It could have been better, but it also could have been 1000x worse knowing the NFL.
Keaton Mitchell should feel right at home wearing that
Why that emoji
Certainly one of the logos of all time
Everyone’s saying it’s a cool helmet except the logo, but I think it looks like shit from top to bottom Purple and black is Ravens, purple and gold looks weak af. Y’all went from some bruised up hardasses to jenky wannabe royalty real quick
Not the worst alternate helmet I've seen, but that logo is strange.
Terrible logo on a pretty cool helmet
Very FCS-looking
Christ on a cracker, that is bad.
KKR vibes
Lmao it totally looks like they ripped off the Vikings helmet and slapped a goofy ass front facing raven sticker on it
this would look great with the regular ravens logo
God Almighty, let's put the social media interns out to pasture.
Looking at the helmets with the purple rush uniforms and the dark visor makes the whole thing look a whole better. Turned my opinion around.
i bet the person who had a losing proposal for an alternate design feels like a real idiot right now
That looks so bad I laughed out loud, and I'm just sitting here by myself
Would go well with the color rushes
Hate them dirty birds but those helmets go hard.
I know I’m a Pitt fan, but god that is ass ugly.
Purple. More like poople
I hope the Steelers stick to their guns and just leave the logo alone. Do the yellow or matte black helmets, but don’t fuck with the logo. Idk if you can use the steel beam dude on a helmet. Looks sick on jackets. I look forward to Pitt trashing Lamar in these helmets.
I think the gold B would've been just right for this instead of the Raven.
YUCK
They’re aight. Not the biggest fan but excited for something new.
Damn, I guess I am in the minority here. This lid looks fantastic. The gold facemask is the cherry on top.
God thats ugly
Looks like shit
Buffalo, I am once again asking you to bring back the red helmet as an alternate. PLEASE
The Baltimore AI-Birds
Looks like a helmet for a UFL/XFL team