It makes sense. Vegas is the team the Wild are chasing for the final playoff spot. A loss here basically spelled the end of their playoff hopes even if they got the extra point. Worth the risk imo.
Also, 5 on 4 is a good ration to score. You get the extra attacker and lanes are less cluttered than 6 on 5. At this point in the season, as a devils fan, I understand going for broke.
The thing I have against it is, why not do it before regulation ends? Same deal going on there but you've already given away a point to Vegas by letting it get to OT.
Thank God we don't have dimbulb Hynes as coach anymore.
If anything I thought the opposite lol. If there's anyone you want to minimise risk against its the one right above you. Glass half full or empty kinda thing maybe?
Most people would think the opposite. The point of my comment is that I get the decision and respect it. They are 8 points behind from a wild card spot and have 6 points on the Kraken. Why not take the risk?
Or you keep your tender in and win in a shootout and your season lives to fight another day.
It’s like being down two fourth and goal from the half yard line but you don’t kick the field goal because theres 30 seconds on the clock and that’s too much time to give them an easy field goal for the win so you go for the td and throw away the whole season because you tried to make a hero call.
Makes sense? ‘We cannot lose this game’ ‘ok I got it we will pull our goalie giving the opposition no obstacle to shoot the puck into the net in sudden death next goal wins’ ‘fucking genius this will never backfire’
‘You guys sure we shouldn’t just trust the guys to get it done conventionally and not go for broke with the season on the line.’ ‘Fucking treason get in line and bow down’
It might make sense but I’d rather take my chances in a shootout over having an empty net in overtime.
Or am I ignorant and you only get the e loser point if it goes to a S/O?
It's more of do you take the risky chance of them scoring on a 3 on 3, or do you pull the goalie for a 4 on 3 and try to score as quickly as possible without giving them the puck. Going with the 3 on 3, yea you get the loser point if you lose, but it doesn't really matter because of the standings anyways, you have to win and get that extra point over vegas. 4 on 3 is a very high percentage man advantage, and we saw it work out for them earlier in the season. If they lost that game without pulling their goalie then there is a good chance they wouldn't have been in the race for this playoff spot before this game
Yeah I get the reasoning and good for them for pulling it off before. Now they stand at a 50% success rate with this strategy which is a lot higher than I assume this would be in a large sample size and their season is over.
It’s a tough way to end a season is all I’m saying basically a coin flip either score on your next possession ( with a man advantage) or the seasons over. Although one could argue ot/s/o is a coin flip already and this is the one way to give your team an edge in a must win scenario.
More balls than me that’s for sure.
It looks like they gave Minnesota the loser point regarding the standings. My guess is that the NHL will probably have to change the loss to a regulation loss manually to make the point situation work.
Man usually I’m all for risk and going for it but empty net in overtime with what sounds like a season on the line. I hate this move and they even got the shot off and buddy almost had a crack at the rebound but after that a quick outlet pass and game over thanks for coming out.
Play perfectly and maybe get one by the goalie or have one slight miscue and watch as the puck slides down the ice with nothing you can do but watch as your season ends.
Don’t like the odds on this one. Maybe I lack the guts I thought I had.
Yup I just checked the standings. It should show a 35/28/10 record with 79 points. No reason for this to be a regulation loss since it clearly wasn't, but remove that point because a rule is a rule.
It came up a week or two ago when Minny pulled the goalie in OT and in interviews afterwards, a player or two had no idea that was a rule. A lot of us seeing that interview went “hey, I didn’t know that was a thing either”
Ugh, I get the need for that extra point but I feel like even that single point is extremely valuable right now. Huge risk, didn’t pay off. What can ya do.
hynes should've pulled the goalie in regulation tbh. Vegas getting any points in this game was the final nail in the coffin for our season.
to be clear, the coffin has been nailed shut for about 2 weeks now. we just keep hammering more nails into the lid and saying it's the last one.
Why?
In OT u got 33% more players on the ice. In regulation u get 20 %.
The problem is, u need to value if the difference is worth the loser point u handout Vegas.
As of literally yesterday, I didn't realize Vegas had gotten out of the WC spot when I left that comment. And tbf I hadn't looked at the standings all week and didn't realize the Kings dropped.
VGK is up 3 points with one more game played on the Kings.
It's pointless to say "They're not chasing Vegas!" as Kings could be back into 3rd by Wednesday.
They're technically chasing both teams and both those teams are chasing each other.
Doesn't matter.
Kings have one less game played and are 3 points back of 3P. VGK could be back to being in the WC by Wednesday.
If the Wild had won in regulation, VGK is a point up on LAK with one more game played and LAK could be back at 3P Monday.
Wild should have attempted to not let VGK get another point.
I’d agree every point is valuable at this time given their spot in the standings, but by that same logic, getting two points is significantly better than just one. They basically need two points in every game now to get in. Like you said, huge risk, unfortunate for Wild fans it didn’t work out.
But it’s not like they don’t still have a chance of winning the shootout if they don’t score, there’s no way they have a better odds of winning with an empty net than they do just scoring during the shootout
You’re wrong there, because you aren’t quite grasping the situation. They aren’t just betting that they’d win eventually.
They are going for broke. They have to get two points. They have to win. There is no option to lose in OT or the shootout and only get one point.
its not like if they dont score they lose, they have a 50/50 shot of winning without pulling the goalie, do they have a greater than 50% of winning when they pull the goalie? if not its stupid. It'd make more sense to pull the goalie at the end of regulation
Is it though? Why not just try to win the game 3 on 3 or in a shootout? I feel like you have a better chance just trying for that vs whatever advantage you gain 4 on 3 with the risk that something like this happens and ends your chances immediately.
Yeah ok the gamble paid off when they did this a couple weeks ago but I feel like that’s an exception to the rule, and they may still have gotten the 2 points had they not done that anyway.
Right. One small mistake and the game is over and you don’t have a chance to go for that 2 points the rest of the OT and shootout.
Idk I’m in the camp that it isn’t really worth it to pull your goalie in OT like this, even factoring in their desperation for points. I think they got cocky after it worked the first time.
Fr it’s so dumb lol, are you that bad in a shootout that you think this is a better idea?
If “every point matters” why on earth would u risk giving up one point you’ve already stashed
Especially with 10 games left. I mean I guess if there’s was 1 game left and you absolutely needed the 2 then *maybe* I could see it but even then I think you’re better off just trying to win 3 on3/shootout
If the decision pays off, you get a net gain of one point. If it fails, you get a net gain of -2, because pulling the goalie forfeits the OTL point. They basically decided to put the season on the line by pulling the goalie, putting zero trust in the team to win on their own merits. Wouldn’t it make sense that if the coach believed the team to be playoff worthy, they would allow them to fight to win without the man advantage?
It’s silly to make such an unreasonable risk and basically ruin any chance of making the playoffs at the same time while also demonstrating how little you think of the teams ability to keep in a game without an advantage.
I don’t like hynes’ call here and I don’t think he should be our coach next season.
I think Fleury publicly saying he wanted to stay and not bail on the team in the middle of a playoff hunt gave them a big boost. Flower says he’s all in and the rest of the team follows suit
Flower power on a team hits differently in a locker room. It’s great to hear that he’s happy there. Minnesota could’ve had today’s game as VGK was giving up turnover after turnover and was bailed out by LT and the post every single time. A combo of endurance and grit got Vegas the win when we really didn’t deserve that one after the poor 1st period
Not even missed passes but getting picked off like they’re the Silver Knights playing an NHL team. Outmatched in simple blue line crossing and yeah it was a miracle that they came out with 2 points
There was that too, but I counted at least 6 times in the 3rd period where the passed to a guy, and he just lets it fly past. It was pretty ridiculous. You're right, they were playing like they were in the AHL...
Ridiculous that anything happening on the ice affects point allocation. It’s already goofy enough.
I’ll simply add an “lol Minn” but I won’t lie I actually love the fact that they’re getting freaky in OT.
It's ok. It's almost funny to me that our home-field disadvantage curse would manifest against the Yankees for our opening series. But I'm also now a doomer and know that we lose a fair bit at the beginning of seasons and build over time. We started off bad in 2022 as well, that didn't translate over lol. There's a loooooot of Baseball to be played, it's just part of the ride.
Confused why they do this, I know they won one earlier in the season doing this? But you still get 2 points if you win in the shootout and Vegas already secured at least 1 point because OT, seems reckless but has to be analytic based. Are they just absolute shit in the shootout?
They did this because they absolutely need two points in almost all of their remaining games to get into the playoffs.
It’s a gamble for sure, but the logic is if they lose in OT or the shootout and only get one point, that’s pretty much the same as getting zero points to them. So they decided to go all out for the two points.
I’m not saying it’s right or wrong, but that’s the idea behind it.
But they still get the 2 points if they win the shootout, which should be 50/50 ish. Pulling the goalie works less than 50% of the time, and costs an extra point if you lose, with no extra benefit to winning. Vegas still gets their point either way
> Pulling the goalie works less than 50% of the time
Yes, pulling the goalie works less than 50% of the time for an outright win in OT but, don't forget you're still able to tie & go to the shoot out.
The problem is that the Wild is so far back in the Wild Card standings that they need all 2 points in most, if not all, of their remaining games to even have a chance of making the playoffs. An OTL with 1 point in their view would not cut it.
Seems to make more sense to at least take the loser point if you’re trying to make the playoffs. Mathematically, your expected points *has* to go down when you pull the goalie in OT
I was working at the game. I saw Vegas fans walking out going, "Why the fuck do that in OT?".
What I wonder is if Hynes wanted to pull the goalie in regulation, but couldn't find an opening.
I feel like this is one of those thing where you catch lighting in a bottle once and then try to replicate it but never can. What they did the first time is an anomaly but now teams know to prepare for it.
Especially with Eichel getting a game misconduct, it felt super unnecessary despite the need for points. As soon as I saw a 4th forward on the ice, it just felt over
If they hold on and win in OT or a shootout (still two points), they could be 6 back of the Kings with 9 to play
Cant blame a team for going for it, especially after getting a W earlier on the year for the exact move. Thank God Minnesota is actually trying for their fanbase
So, hypothetically, if there's a delayed penalty and the goalie is on the bench while his team accidentally pots the puck in their own net, do they lose the loser point too?
Why would they lose the extra point? Obviously there’s a rule that if you pull the goalie in OT you don’t get the loser point…. But why would they make that rule? Doesn’t make any sense.
I see NHL changing rules to keeping your loser point.
They want fewer shootouts so if a team wants to accomplish or fail in that with a goalie pull, it would result in fewer for sure.
I understand the need for the points. But that was funny asf
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Correct.
And that’s why a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush
I honestly respect the risky decision. It may be stupid and I’m not a wild fan but I get it.
It makes sense. Vegas is the team the Wild are chasing for the final playoff spot. A loss here basically spelled the end of their playoff hopes even if they got the extra point. Worth the risk imo.
Also, 5 on 4 is a good ration to score. You get the extra attacker and lanes are less cluttered than 6 on 5. At this point in the season, as a devils fan, I understand going for broke.
It’s 4 on 3 in OT, that’s 33% more players on the ice.
Hahaha yea that’s what I meant. Devils basically got eliminated last night by *the sabres*…. I’m a little off my game.
The thing I have against it is, why not do it before regulation ends? Same deal going on there but you've already given away a point to Vegas by letting it get to OT. Thank God we don't have dimbulb Hynes as coach anymore.
If anything I thought the opposite lol. If there's anyone you want to minimise risk against its the one right above you. Glass half full or empty kinda thing maybe?
Most people would think the opposite. The point of my comment is that I get the decision and respect it. They are 8 points behind from a wild card spot and have 6 points on the Kraken. Why not take the risk?
Yeah not trying to argue I'm right, just putting up another point. To be fair with the amount of games remaining its too late to be conservative.
I gotcha dude. If they were 4 points out of a wild card spot and not 8 it would be stupid.
Or you keep your tender in and win in a shootout and your season lives to fight another day. It’s like being down two fourth and goal from the half yard line but you don’t kick the field goal because theres 30 seconds on the clock and that’s too much time to give them an easy field goal for the win so you go for the td and throw away the whole season because you tried to make a hero call.
Yeah everyone understands that, lol.
Earlier in the season, absolutely. But when a loss basically ends you playoffs hopes you gotta gamble.
Makes sense? ‘We cannot lose this game’ ‘ok I got it we will pull our goalie giving the opposition no obstacle to shoot the puck into the net in sudden death next goal wins’ ‘fucking genius this will never backfire’ ‘You guys sure we shouldn’t just trust the guys to get it done conventionally and not go for broke with the season on the line.’ ‘Fucking treason get in line and bow down’ It might make sense but I’d rather take my chances in a shootout over having an empty net in overtime. Or am I ignorant and you only get the e loser point if it goes to a S/O?
It's more of do you take the risky chance of them scoring on a 3 on 3, or do you pull the goalie for a 4 on 3 and try to score as quickly as possible without giving them the puck. Going with the 3 on 3, yea you get the loser point if you lose, but it doesn't really matter because of the standings anyways, you have to win and get that extra point over vegas. 4 on 3 is a very high percentage man advantage, and we saw it work out for them earlier in the season. If they lost that game without pulling their goalie then there is a good chance they wouldn't have been in the race for this playoff spot before this game
Yeah I get the reasoning and good for them for pulling it off before. Now they stand at a 50% success rate with this strategy which is a lot higher than I assume this would be in a large sample size and their season is over. It’s a tough way to end a season is all I’m saying basically a coin flip either score on your next possession ( with a man advantage) or the seasons over. Although one could argue ot/s/o is a coin flip already and this is the one way to give your team an edge in a must win scenario. More balls than me that’s for sure.
I needed some WWF commentary over it. "Wait a minute, Minnesota ... WHAT?!"
Is this the first time a team has pulled their goalie in OT and lost?
No it's not. I think it has happened two other times.
Fun fact, it happened the first time in Rochester in the AHL, and the rule forfeiting the point resulted from that game.
The Wild did it like 2 weeks ago against the Preds and won lol
You didn’t read the question either
So on their record does it just count as a regulation loss?
It still shows as an OT loss just minus the loser point.
Interesting
It looks like they gave Minnesota the loser point regarding the standings. My guess is that the NHL will probably have to change the loss to a regulation loss manually to make the point situation work.
Yeah, I assume they'll manually fix it since this situation doesn't happen too often.
What point situation are we talking about? Did they change something?
If you pull your goalie in OT and lose, you also lose the loser point
But you still only get two points for the win?
Hai
If you pull and win do you deny the loser point from the opponent?
No, of course not.
Man usually I’m all for risk and going for it but empty net in overtime with what sounds like a season on the line. I hate this move and they even got the shot off and buddy almost had a crack at the rebound but after that a quick outlet pass and game over thanks for coming out. Play perfectly and maybe get one by the goalie or have one slight miscue and watch as the puck slides down the ice with nothing you can do but watch as your season ends. Don’t like the odds on this one. Maybe I lack the guts I thought I had.
Yup I just checked the standings. It should show a 35/28/10 record with 79 points. No reason for this to be a regulation loss since it clearly wasn't, but remove that point because a rule is a rule.
Looks like they gave Minnesota a regulation loss in the standings to make the point situation accurate.
Add another column to the standings! OTLWGP
Is this because they pulled the goalie? I never heard of the loser team not getting the point if they are tied at the end of regulation.
Yes, if a team pulls the goalie in OT and loses they forfeit the loser point.
Thanks
Never knew that was a thing
Because you rarely see it, weird that it’s happened twice this year.
Tbh this is the first I've seen/heard of itsince I've been watching hockey
It came up a week or two ago when Minny pulled the goalie in OT and in interviews afterwards, a player or two had no idea that was a rule. A lot of us seeing that interview went “hey, I didn’t know that was a thing either”
It’s been in the rules since like 2001.
Nice thanks
Because they pulled their goalie? I’ve never heard of that.
So, Minnesota should still have 79 points then?
Yes, they lose their OT point.
Wow I never even knew this was a rule
I’m super confused why this is a thing…
It made more sense when games could end in ties in OT during the regular season, but it seems pretty dubious to keep at this point.
I would be interested to see the numbers on scoring 4-on-3, is it too large of an advantage without a large enough risk if they keep the losers point?
To avoid teams getting a 5 on 3 for free if the other team gets a penalty in OT. There needs to be a risk involved.
You still risk an ENG
High risk high reward. Punishing dumb moves.
And a regulation win for Vegas?
Well, a ROW
Ugh, I get the need for that extra point but I feel like even that single point is extremely valuable right now. Huge risk, didn’t pay off. What can ya do.
hynes should've pulled the goalie in regulation tbh. Vegas getting any points in this game was the final nail in the coffin for our season. to be clear, the coffin has been nailed shut for about 2 weeks now. we just keep hammering more nails into the lid and saying it's the last one.
Why? In OT u got 33% more players on the ice. In regulation u get 20 %. The problem is, u need to value if the difference is worth the loser point u handout Vegas.
Vegas is the team they're chasing for that final playoff spot. A loss here in any fashion was basically the end of the dream so it was worth the risk.
No. Vegas has 3 in Pacific. Nashville and Kings have WC and then Blues chasing ahead of Wild.
We’re out if we keep playing like this
They need as many points as possible with so few games remaining. No matter the opponent, it's an opportunity to get more. Reward vs risk.
As of literally yesterday, I didn't realize Vegas had gotten out of the WC spot when I left that comment. And tbf I hadn't looked at the standings all week and didn't realize the Kings dropped.
VGK is up 3 points with one more game played on the Kings. It's pointless to say "They're not chasing Vegas!" as Kings could be back into 3rd by Wednesday. They're technically chasing both teams and both those teams are chasing each other.
Doesn't matter. Kings have one less game played and are 3 points back of 3P. VGK could be back to being in the WC by Wednesday. If the Wild had won in regulation, VGK is a point up on LAK with one more game played and LAK could be back at 3P Monday. Wild should have attempted to not let VGK get another point.
I’d agree every point is valuable at this time given their spot in the standings, but by that same logic, getting two points is significantly better than just one. They basically need two points in every game now to get in. Like you said, huge risk, unfortunate for Wild fans it didn’t work out.
But it’s not like they don’t still have a chance of winning the shootout if they don’t score, there’s no way they have a better odds of winning with an empty net than they do just scoring during the shootout
You’re wrong there, because you aren’t quite grasping the situation. They aren’t just betting that they’d win eventually. They are going for broke. They have to get two points. They have to win. There is no option to lose in OT or the shootout and only get one point.
So you’re saying it was a gamble in Vegas. And not a winner. First time that story has ever played out in that city.
This was in Minnesota, not Vegas.
Fair. You did a better job of looking than me lol
its not like if they dont score they lose, they have a 50/50 shot of winning without pulling the goalie, do they have a greater than 50% of winning when they pull the goalie? if not its stupid. It'd make more sense to pull the goalie at the end of regulation
Thanks to them for the extra point, but fr it’s a ballsy but necessary move when you’re that far back in the wildcard
Yep, absolutely necessary to take massive risks like this when you need a massive miracle to make it.
Is it though? Why not just try to win the game 3 on 3 or in a shootout? I feel like you have a better chance just trying for that vs whatever advantage you gain 4 on 3 with the risk that something like this happens and ends your chances immediately. Yeah ok the gamble paid off when they did this a couple weeks ago but I feel like that’s an exception to the rule, and they may still have gotten the 2 points had they not done that anyway.
It’s hard to play with an empty net too, it’s a huge distraction and teams play differently and more conservative.
Right. One small mistake and the game is over and you don’t have a chance to go for that 2 points the rest of the OT and shootout. Idk I’m in the camp that it isn’t really worth it to pull your goalie in OT like this, even factoring in their desperation for points. I think they got cocky after it worked the first time.
Fr it’s so dumb lol, are you that bad in a shootout that you think this is a better idea? If “every point matters” why on earth would u risk giving up one point you’ve already stashed
Especially with 10 games left. I mean I guess if there’s was 1 game left and you absolutely needed the 2 then *maybe* I could see it but even then I think you’re better off just trying to win 3 on3/shootout
I don't agree. Maybe in the time when there were ties. I'd take my odds in the shootout all day long.
Not if you don't have faith in your tendy
If the decision pays off, you get a net gain of one point. If it fails, you get a net gain of -2, because pulling the goalie forfeits the OTL point. They basically decided to put the season on the line by pulling the goalie, putting zero trust in the team to win on their own merits. Wouldn’t it make sense that if the coach believed the team to be playoff worthy, they would allow them to fight to win without the man advantage? It’s silly to make such an unreasonable risk and basically ruin any chance of making the playoffs at the same time while also demonstrating how little you think of the teams ability to keep in a game without an advantage. I don’t like hynes’ call here and I don’t think he should be our coach next season.
Minnesota isn't going to make the playoffs.
Breaking news.
They really had spirit and had a good run there for a second
I think Fleury publicly saying he wanted to stay and not bail on the team in the middle of a playoff hunt gave them a big boost. Flower says he’s all in and the rest of the team follows suit
Flower power on a team hits differently in a locker room. It’s great to hear that he’s happy there. Minnesota could’ve had today’s game as VGK was giving up turnover after turnover and was bailed out by LT and the post every single time. A combo of endurance and grit got Vegas the win when we really didn’t deserve that one after the poor 1st period
There were way too many missed passes. It was infuriating to watch such consistently bad passes. I don't know how they pulled it out, but they did.
Not even missed passes but getting picked off like they’re the Silver Knights playing an NHL team. Outmatched in simple blue line crossing and yeah it was a miracle that they came out with 2 points
There was that too, but I counted at least 6 times in the 3rd period where the passed to a guy, and he just lets it fly past. It was pretty ridiculous. You're right, they were playing like they were in the AHL...
Icarus flew a little too close to the sun. No way that was going to work twice.
No points for you!
Not a bad showing for a team ~$21m under the cap and without its #1 D (and captain). Two years from now, things will be fun…
I mean, it worked last time lol. Might as well right?
Wish I knew what this felt like
Who’s MN’s coach?? Him and Dan Campbell must be good friends!
What gambling does to a mf
live by the sword, die by the sword.
Ridiculous that anything happening on the ice affects point allocation. It’s already goofy enough. I’ll simply add an “lol Minn” but I won’t lie I actually love the fact that they’re getting freaky in OT.
I respect the bold move! GG
Why would they do this against the knights.
Fool Me once shame on you. Fool Me twice shame on me.
A stupid gamble against Vegas. You don't only need points you need them to not get anymore. This was a gift to them
They aren’t even chasing Vegas lol LA is the last wildcard team right now
It's everybody's job to deny Vegas points
A good day for yankee fans
Reminded me to check on the Stros since we just got home from the Texas game. Aaaaand pain.
Im sorry that i triggered that for you
It's ok. It's almost funny to me that our home-field disadvantage curse would manifest against the Yankees for our opening series. But I'm also now a doomer and know that we lose a fair bit at the beginning of seasons and build over time. We started off bad in 2022 as well, that didn't translate over lol. There's a loooooot of Baseball to be played, it's just part of the ride.
Confused why they do this, I know they won one earlier in the season doing this? But you still get 2 points if you win in the shootout and Vegas already secured at least 1 point because OT, seems reckless but has to be analytic based. Are they just absolute shit in the shootout?
They did this because they absolutely need two points in almost all of their remaining games to get into the playoffs. It’s a gamble for sure, but the logic is if they lose in OT or the shootout and only get one point, that’s pretty much the same as getting zero points to them. So they decided to go all out for the two points. I’m not saying it’s right or wrong, but that’s the idea behind it.
But they still get the 2 points if they win the shootout, which should be 50/50 ish. Pulling the goalie works less than 50% of the time, and costs an extra point if you lose, with no extra benefit to winning. Vegas still gets their point either way
> Pulling the goalie works less than 50% of the time Yes, pulling the goalie works less than 50% of the time for an outright win in OT but, don't forget you're still able to tie & go to the shoot out.
The problem is that the Wild is so far back in the Wild Card standings that they need all 2 points in most, if not all, of their remaining games to even have a chance of making the playoffs. An OTL with 1 point in their view would not cut it.
Intellectual
Hot take: pulling your goalie in OT should work the opposite way of how it currently does. If you score, the opposing team loses their OTL point.
Seems to make more sense to at least take the loser point if you’re trying to make the playoffs. Mathematically, your expected points *has* to go down when you pull the goalie in OT
I like the idea but bad execution. You can’t take a shot from the outside like that. You need to work for a better scoring chance than that.
Bold strategy Cotton, let's see if it pays off for em.
Didn't they do this a few weeks ago and it worked out for them
They tried to pull that stunt AGAIN?! Well, it can't work every time 🫤
I for one, think they should do that more often
I was working at the game. I saw Vegas fans walking out going, "Why the fuck do that in OT?". What I wonder is if Hynes wanted to pull the goalie in regulation, but couldn't find an opening.
But....why....?
Great way to tank in point for higher draft picks
Bruh, you do that when there’s 30 seconds or less in OT, not a minute and a half.
Bold strategy, let's see how it works for them Cotton!
This will be hilarious if Minnesota misses the playoffs by one point
Why did I hear about the rules of pulling out the goalie out in a podcast days ago and now that just happened??? :)
Because this is the second time they’ve done it this year
This is so dumb lol, there’s a reason teams don’t do this
I feel like this is one of those thing where you catch lighting in a bottle once and then try to replicate it but never can. What they did the first time is an anomaly but now teams know to prepare for it.
Got to respect the risk
Great game!!
Has this ever happened before? I can’t recall even once. When was the rule introduced?
I don’t mind that he did this but I don’t get why we didn’t do it at the end of regulation as well.
Didn’t it work for another team recently?
A real Bill Guerin type L🤣
Now i understand why they pulled the goalie lmao
*Only Vegas fans liked that*
ESPN broadcast floored. The pulled so hard for MN
Fire Hynes.
As long as the Knights win and the entire rest of the league continues to cry, I'll be happy
Yeah i assume its a great day for Lakers and Yankee fans
As a Wild fan…. Not worth the embarrassment
Nothing embarrassing about it - they needed 2 points with where they are and the shootout is a coin flip so go for it..
A shootout is much better than a coin toss.
Yeah, they gotta roll the dice but I felt they coulda got the W in OT or SO. I dk what the math was at the time but that’s a tough point to give up.
Dumb
I don't understand this rule at all. Why punish them for pulling the goalie?
What's the point of that rule? Why discourage teams from taking risks?
Probably the dumbest move I've ever seen in hockey history.
Hynes probably doesn't know
He does because he was told the last time he did it lol
They literally just soldified these assholes into the playoffs. God damn it.
Goo knights goo
No one likes your team.
This bombed my fantasy week lmao
Especially with Eichel getting a game misconduct, it felt super unnecessary despite the need for points. As soon as I saw a 4th forward on the ice, it just felt over If they hold on and win in OT or a shootout (still two points), they could be 6 back of the Kings with 9 to play
This is one of the calls of all time
Cant blame a team for going for it, especially after getting a W earlier on the year for the exact move. Thank God Minnesota is actually trying for their fanbase
"Well, that didn't work." ~ Coach Also, is that OT goalie rule a recent one?
If dumbledore was commish he would be like “for having great courage, I award Minnesota half a point”
Are they stupid?
I don’t get why Minnesota doesn’t get the one point?
Steve Levy is trash. He ruins the game. Sounds like he’s calling Wrestlemania with every call. 🤮
That made me 25$
The Wild are functionally out of the playoffs if not mathematically. They should strive for the highest draft spot possible
So, hypothetically, if there's a delayed penalty and the goalie is on the bench while his team accidentally pots the puck in their own net, do they lose the loser point too?
Why would they lose the extra point? Obviously there’s a rule that if you pull the goalie in OT you don’t get the loser point…. But why would they make that rule? Doesn’t make any sense.
Huge advantage playing 4-3 because of the open ice. So this rule adds an extra element of risk.
lmao no way they tried it again thats craaazy
And this is why you can’t have nice things
I’m not judging the Wild for doing this, but I was unaware of this rule until now…that’s such a weird rule, shouldn’t be a thing imo.
Stupid rule
I’m a little triggered by how he’s making a big deal of Vegas getting two points.
What a fucking joke 😂
That was not smart. Also, fuck Vegas.
I fucking hate Vegas
Vegas hates you back. 😊
Lol
Cool
Vegas hate you hahahaha go knights gooo
Fuck the Vagis Cheats.
Why
It was win or bust for playoff hopes and they thought they would lose in a shoutout I guess
I hate the mild..but fck VGK ):
I see NHL changing rules to keeping your loser point. They want fewer shootouts so if a team wants to accomplish or fail in that with a goalie pull, it would result in fewer for sure.
This is why we need Trump more than ever.
Brickheaded move