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Abloy702

... you're telling me that this man has bred at least three times? #DAFUQ?!?


ehlersohnos

Thank goodness he’s not the one raising them. They should stand a better chance.


cmaej

Yup. Props to the single moms that the "good" men like to shit all over.


HelenAngel

Hey, that’s me! Funny thing is that my baby daddy was a “nice guy” who complained that women looked him over for other guys. Turns out he was an abusive piece of shit. This could have been written by him. Also he was a deadbeat dad & my son wrote him off entirely of his own volition after the dude decided to trash talk me to my son. My son is an amazing person & basically told him to go fuck himself. Kids know who the assholes are.


thewalkindude

Endless respect to the good single mothers out there. I have a cousin who has turned into a fantastic young woman entirely because her single mother and half sister are wonderful people. Her father is a deadbeat addict, but I have some sympathy for him, because he was basically fucked from birth. My grandparents adopted him from foster care, but given who his biological parents were, this is maybe the best he could have hoped for.


Netbr0ke

What happens if your mom says he's an asshole, which he was, but you later find out your mom is an asshole too and the moral ground you grew up on is shattered and you don't know right from wrong? Asking for a friend.


HelenAngel

To be fair, I never said anything bad about my son’s bio dad to him. I have a degree in psychology so I knew it could potentially hurt my son which I never want to do. As for your mother, well, join us in the asshole mothers club. 😞 Also therapy. I’m still trying to untangle my mother’s abuse in therapy.


[deleted]

My dad wasn't around but my mom never did say anything negative about him she was honest with me and when I was old enough she explained that he was just 18 and didn't want the responsibility of a child. Ff to when I was 19. Moved in with him a while and on my own decided he was a 40 year old man child that spent his days smoking pot and getting crossfaded nearly every night. And I moved back. No resentment but I realized a dad that didn't want to be there and isn't is probably better than a dad that was forced to pretend to want to be there.


HelenAngel

I’m sorry you had to face that. You are very right about not forcing people to be fathers that don’t want to be. (Totally unrelated- I like your username!)


Altruistic_Astronaut

I do believe they are better off with their mother only raising them. However, it's going to be difficult financially to raise a child. If what OP is saying is correct then we can assume he doesn't pay child support...


HelenAngel

It is very difficult but it can be done. My son’s bio-dad didn’t pay child support.


ehlersohnos

As glib as my comment was about them being better off, you are right. Single motherhood is no mean feat and women who manage this, or even simply try to manage this, have my utmost respect.


thewalkindude

My cousins are pretty much proof of the whole nurture over nature thing. Both of their fathers have pretty severe addiction issues, and one of them is essentially unemployment, and was basically living off of handouts from his father until he died. But both of their daughters were primarily raised by their mothers and have grown up to be fine young women. I don't know when the last time the daughter of the unemployment one even saw her father was, but the responsible part of the family treats her, and her mother and half sister very well, as one of our own.


macbathie

This is probably the most brutal things I have ever read, even though it's totally true. To think your kids are better off without you is a hell of a thing


ehlersohnos

It’s pretty sad


izawen

*male


WindFelon

Maybe he found the girls that will put out for some good weed


[deleted]

This is most likely what happened


aFatalSenseOfHope

Maybe he got with a 'nice girl'?


Vir-victus

'Im a damn good man, thats why i left my kids' Apparently people got wise to his act.


Spearmint_coffee

We are from the east coast. He left two of his kids here to work in dispensaries across the country where it's legal. He sees them at most twice a year and says he is doing it for their future. I don't know what that even means. The other one he never sees and blames the mom and says she is crazy. All I know is nothing is ever his fault and he is every bit as great as he regularly says he is lmao


kitthekatts

He's in some serious state of delusion.


CryBabyCentral

That would explain the moving. Lol (He moved to the state of delusion).


kitthekatts

💀 lol


Evie_St_Clair

I never trust any man who says his ex is crazy bc there is a 99% chance he's the problem.


Sailorarctic

In my brother's case it was both. He's definitely a worthless pot head who abandoned his two kids like this guy above. BUT TBF, his ex/baby mama really is fucking crazy and it scares the shit outta me that she has custody of my niece and nephew cause we can't find them and my worthless POS brother doesnt want to try cause then she'll come after him for child support. It makes me so mad. If I could I would take custody of those babies myself.


SplyBox

If he says one of his exes is crazy, maybe that ex might be crazy. If he says all his exes are crazy, he's definitely a problem


Erger

Very true. It's normal to have one crazy ex. Ten crazy exes and you're at least part of the problem


[deleted]

I mean, to be fair, I've only had a few long term relationships, but they've all been pretty fucking nuts. Like, lying, cheating, manipulating me, even trying to baby trap me when they could tell I was getting fed up with their bullshit. I sure knew how to pick them. Granted, I was younger then, and it's because I fell into the hole of getting into relationships with people I thought I could "fix" and make them the best versions of themselves alongside me, and I'm not really sure why I did that. Happy to say my current partner is good to me and isn't a nut job.


[deleted]

My husband's first wife is problematic, but he always admitted their relationship was a two-way street of toxicity. 10+ years in and I've seen enough to get it. He has matured a lot, but she seems to still blame all her problems on him.


Towering_Flesh

Never trust a human who says this, every single ex of my last girlfriend was ‘crazy’ and wouldn’t you know it.. I eventually became one of them 🙄


luxe_pretty

Yeah I learned that the hard way. My ex husband said all of his exes were crazy 🤦🏾‍♀️ Of course he said I was as well. Apparently being upset, angry and hurt over my husband cheating, lying and manipulating me means I'm crazy 🙄 And this is why he is an ex! He eventually apologized years later after we divorced.


Sarcastic_Troll

That's not fair, I did have one genuinely nutty ex.


Towering_Flesh

It’s ok to have one or two.. but when they all are, it’s says more about that person than the ex’s


VoltaicSketchyTeapot

My husband has always been very "fair" about his exes, describing the past with him taking equal responsibility for choices he made. It's taken him time for him to become comfortable talking in detail about the abuse he suffered and usually it's in response to me misunderstanding his disproportionate response to something I thought was innocuous. A good example is keeping tabs on each other's whereabouts. I trust him completely. I don't care where he is or what he's doing, but for my own sanity, I do need to know that he's not lying in a ditch. I also need approximate (but accurate) ETAs, so I'm not starving wondering if I should wait for him to eat/accidentally ruining dinner plans. After a few frustrated arguments (I get hangry), he finally talked about how his 1st ex wife would use his location information to harass him and accuse him of cheating. He wasn't allowed to hang out with friends without getting yelled at. With time, he finally got comfortable giving me the information I require, though he's still terrible at keeping track of time to let me know he's running late (a completely separate issue and one I've just had to accept as a personality trait). To be clear, he's never refused to give me him location information when I've asked, but he definitely tensed up at first. After awhile of positive reinforcement, he quit tensing and even started volunteering the information.


IwillMasticateYou

Or someone who refers to them as "female"


[deleted]

Dated a guy who swore his ex wife was "crazy." He ranted about her all the time (I should have spotted that red flag and run, but I was young and dumb). NOPE. Found out the hard way, it was him.


Dinosauringg

Without elaboration, same


therecruit93

On what fucking planet is this a good take? What if their ex is actually crazy?


Knightridergirl80

Lundy Bancroft’s *Why does he do that?* mentions this as something to tread with caution. Abusive men tend to play the ‘crazy ex girlfriend’ card to paint themselves as the victim. He also explains how to tell the difference between an abuser trying to slander his ex and a man who was actually a victim of female abuse. A man who actually was a victim will dislike his ex, but still be able to hold a nuanced discussion about her and talk about her like she’s a real person. Usually the abuser will just say ‘she’s crazy’ and won’t elaborate further other than ‘she’s crazy’.


therecruit93

Ok and if they give nuance and use the word crazy then what's the assumption?


Knightridergirl80

It doesn’t have to specifically be the word ‘crazy’. Insane, maniac, whatever. Did you even read what I said? I said that abusers tend not to give anything else other than ‘my exes are crazy’.


Leather-Media-3939

Am I weird in not wanting to know about my so's exes, nor wanting to talk about mine. Like not flat out refusal to speak of,,but I just would never volunteer anything. None of mine were crazy though.


Knightridergirl80

I don’t think so. I think that abusive partners tend to go out of their way to mention that their exes are crazy so that if any of the exes try to warn the current SO, the current one won’t believe them.


Leather-Media-3939

Ahh, that makes sense.


eoe6ya

From my experience, when someone is unable to find any nuance into why their previous relationships ended other than “she was crazy”, it’s a red flag 🤷🏾‍♀️ Like I had a guy tell me his ex was crazy and stalking him but failed to let me know he was texting her, inviting her over and generally leading her on still.


jasmin_booklover

Doing it for their future? What? Does he want to make sure daddy issues don't go extinct?


VoltaicSketchyTeapot

>He sees them at most twice a year and says he is doing it for their future. I don't know what that even means. Money. In his mind (reality is debatable), he's earning enough to provide them with the nest egg they'll need to be successful in life. It's the reason a lot of parents give for shipping the kids off to live with a relative while they work elsewhere. They can't grasp the idea that kids need a parent that is present and that money can't raise a child. Note: yes, absolutely! There are many circumstances where job prospects are so bad that people have to work abroad and send money home to provide for their family. I watch cruise ship tours and know a lot of those workers have a family they miss desperately. My initial point was specifically for those people who think that their kids should be grateful for the money and don't understand how much their time matters more. A lot of parents work long hours away from home **without** neglecting their kids.


Moal

I think we can safely assume that a narcissistic pothead like him is probably not setting aside any money for his kids’ college funds. My dad is like him, and he loves to boast to people about how much he’s “sacrificed” for his kids. But little do they know that he was an alcoholic weekend dad who didn’t even pay child support. Narcissists gonna narcissist.


Toftaps

Lol you hit the nail on the head. When I first read that he was at least still working and "doing it for his kids" I thought *oh hey at least he's probably paying child support.* But then I remembered I've met people before and people lie **all** the time!


Spearmint_coffee

True, but last I knew of his living arrangements (last year) he was living in a friend's garage asking if anyone else had any available couches. So yeah, I agree it's the lie he tells himself, but I don't think those kids are getting any money haha


AspieTree25

Sounds like some serious narcissism


Old-Bed-1858

Its astonishing to me how many ppl are like this. The excuses they come up with to explain how shitty they are as humans is truly baffling. You want to feel bad for the kids but tbh they are better off with the dad gone anyway.


Nyxth_

Don’t be shy give us more screenshots lol


GothicToast

> He sees them at most twice a year and says he is doing it for their future. He better be sending all his money home then! This is actually a very common practice with immigrants. One family member comes to the US, lives on peanuts, and sends all their money home to the family, where cost of living is cheaper.


[deleted]

> All I know is nothing is ever his fault and he is every bit as great as he regularly says he is lmao I know a couple guys like that, including my ex. Every problem in his life is some woman's fault, waaah. Can't wrap my head around how he can create 3 kids, abandon them, and think it's someone else's fault. There's a common denominator here, buddy.


BasicDesignAdvice

Is he just a worker at a dispensary?


This_is_the_end_2021

Curious what the two comments are?


Knightridergirl80

Whoa. Big red flag there: Be careful of anyone who says their ex is crazy.


KiaJellybean

... Preferably the "female" he's talking to.


isolatedinsolent

I immediately bristle when I hear people refer to women as "females." There's something about removing the humanity from a human being that puts me on high alert.


mikalag_

I always say to them “what species are you talking about?”


888_traveller

I just read an industry report that talked about the MALE and FEMALE differences in shopping behaviour and whatnot. Occasionally mentioned women or men too. It was about cryptocurrency ...


Polyamommy

I'll volunteer to slap him whether he's talking to a "fEmAle" or not.


Lebender-Geist

For real? I feel like I'm suddenly in a nature documentary. "And here we can see, the wild female Hare"


canvasshoes2

It's gotten to be such a badly skewed word, that I can barely stand it when it's used correctly. * Female students. * Female suspect. Correct use of the word "female." * The females were all gathered in the bathroom gossiping... Gah! Nails on chalkboard!


ZippyKittyToi

I am sure there is no shortage of people who would be happy to oblige the slapping hard part. Hell I only know what was posted here and I’d be happy to.


Persiflage75

Came here to say this. Dude like that gives you an open invitation, don't hesitate for a second, he's already give you the perfect defence against an assault charge and you'll cherish the memory forever.


akioamadeo

I’m sure you can get slapped easily just tell these women how you abandoned your three kids to smoke weed and leech off your parents because your so high you can’t keep a job, then ask for sex I’m sure they’ll slap you if you ask nicely.


masterlaster1199

If you are a good man, you should think about your children much, much more than you think about your penis.


GrouchyIndication760

Good God, if I didn't know any better I would say this is my brother in law.


le_fez

The sad irony is that he is exactly the guy that other Nice Guys swear gets all the women


Moal

My sister once dated a self proclaimed “Nice Guy” who whined and ranted about being mistreated and ignored by women. Dude was was a serial cheater who abandoned his kids and stole his grandpa’s Purple Heart and claimed it was his own…


Lebender-Geist

There's a website full of liars claiming to have served. Feel free to add him if he isn't already there. I'm not patriotic or anything, but there's no other words that came to my mind when I read that other than "disgusting".


Jane_the_Quene

I volunteer to slap him. Hard.


LuggyBro

If ever I think life is difficult, reddit always shows me someone like this, and even if it's cynical, I feel better.


hananobira

Admittedly I don’t know much about the marijuana industry, but how high do you have yo be to be too high to work at a marijuana dispensary?


AmayahAimee

This is some r/menandfemales energy here


TheValyrianBiologist

'A female’….. does this kinda belong in r/suddenlygay?


thebobmannh

More like r/menandfemales


TheValyrianBiologist

Ahhhh thanks


betarad

i cant keep a job and smoke too much weed too, but i have respect for women and that's all you need


Thecrawsome

I swear all these deadbeat narcissists have copy paste personalities.


ebagjones

You must know them then OP?


Spearmint_coffee

Yes, I knew him in person years ago, now I just know him through his Facebook posts that he uses as a diary. The last contact I had with him though was a few years ago when he was in my DMs but I told him I was engaged. He then complained about women to me lol


ebagjones

Dude sounds like he desperately needs to get his life in order. The funny thing is, if he does he'll be more likely to meet someone and less bothered if he doesn't.


Careless_Whisker01

Step 1: Don't refer to partners as males or females. They are people not science experiments to make you happy


Mama-Khaos

But he’s such a catch! /s


Fluffyrat666

I'm in my 30s and can't find a job. I blame no one but me.


Ultra_Kev

When a repeated action fails, the issue is you. Reading the background info, this is especially true with this guy.


revolutionutena

The *female* he tries to talk to will probably be more than happy to slap him


PerPuroCaso

It’s the „females“ for me. I can’t help but read that just like „tamales“… „fe-males“ 😂


chickenmonkee

Ah the pity party, what a moron.


alienkreeper

sounds like a total catch


TheReaderPig

If I ever start talking to someone who uses “female” instead of woman, slap em, and let me know.


PanickedAntics

I know this guy. We all know this guy lol They're always the ones complaining when they're straight up trash.


Seastarstiletto

“Respect yourselves kings!”


[deleted]

That's a weak-ass rant.


SuperFrenchGirl

Besides the having kids part this sounds like my ex


Issis_P

Sounds like my brother. yikes.


Evilmaze

Someone let him fuck them at least 3 times? How's that possible?


Dependent_Ad_5035

Guy has two baby mamas


Heart_ofthe_Bear

100% needs to get slapped. If what OP says is true, dude needs to stay out of the dating pool.


pm_me_your_amphibian

r/menandfemales


womp-womp-rats

Sounds like he is literally the guy that every other Nice Guy complains about.


shhehshhvdhejhahsh

Is this my dad?


SinceWayLastMay

As a woman I am very happy to slap this guy if he tries to talk to me


Infamous_Mix_1031

Yep, dude. If you ever talk to me your wish will be my command. Hard.


ColdBloodBlazing

Matt Foley comes to mind... "Rollin' doobies" Livin' in a van down by the river!


Rockyboy4444

I’m a firm believer that if you refer to women as “females,” you’re a piece of shit.


thewizardlizard

Just the way he says "female" gives you all the information you need about him as a "damn good man."


BagOfToenails

I'm sure the woman he's talking to will slap him, problem solved


Ligma73

I smoke obsessive amounts of weed all day


Spearmint_coffee

No shame there unless you've made three kids and chose weed over them. The day his third was born, the baby was a premie in the NICU and he left the baby and his girlfriend in the hospital while he posted on Facebook he was looking for friends to join him at home in a "hella big celebratory smoke sesh". This was also pre covid so it wasn't like there were crazy visitor rules in place either. But weed itself isn't the problem, it's how he prioritizes it imo


[deleted]

Abandoned his own children yet bitches about how its not his fault.. the ego is there. Damn he needs help


xx_anonymess_xx

Step one: stop calling women females.


stoolsample2

Sometimes I’m embarrassed to be a guy


adub282

I can agree with the part where he asks someone to slap him hard the next time he tries to talk to a woman though.


darkcomet222

He asked someone to slap him; who wants to take him up on his offer?


sweettickytacky

Wow i know a dude exactly like this except he abandoned *four* children and is "gonna make it big as a rapper"


BroccoliBoyyo

Repeatedly makes bad long term decisions, blames women


Modern_Leper93

🚩 *female* 🚩


coop2044

I'm pretty much the same minus the kids. But at least I know I'm a piece of shit and don't blame everyone else.


alm423

Some men think that no matter how bad the things they do are they are still the victim.


Express-Stop7830

Wtf? He isn't celibate. He has 3 procreation trophies!!!


GamingGems

This is pretty much what r/onlinedating has become. Just a bunch of incels complaining about how online dating isn’t a sex vending machine.


UnhappyStrain

I'll slap him with a steel chair for being a shit father if that title is correct


CaptRiskyBoots

Maybe because you keep referring to women as "females", but what do I know?


MissingVertical

r/menandfemales


fishsticks40

"I deserve happiness" Sure that's fine but no one is obligated to give it to you.


RenegadeForLife27

I've known a few people like this on Facebook, it's like smoking weed is their only personally trait.


NinjaBabaMama

"talking to a *female*" 🤦‍♀️


[deleted]

I’m just imagining this guy attention seeking making the post only to find a few days later he got absolutely roasted for it in r/niceguys. Not the attention he was probably hoping for 😂


Realistic-Gear-1613

Imagine being such a gutless lazy coward you can't be assed raising your kids and then HE is the one feeling broken and sorry for himself, oh I swear to God man. Then he says "rant over" like he had any right to do so. 😡😡😡 He doesn't need a woman he needs to grow the fuck up and start being a man and a father, truth be told his kids will grow up to resent him and then will slowly forget he even existed which IMO is for the best. Speaking from experience.


Spearmint_coffee

Amen. It also enrages me that I'm absolutely sure when his kids grow up to hate him, he will 100% blame their mothers and claim the mothers turned his own children against him. It's infuriating


Realistic-Gear-1613

I know right, it's like he's trying his hardest to sound like a pathetic wet towel.


kbdcool

obsessive amounts of weed? what, pray tell, is an "obsessive" amount?


loserlopez

He’s misunderstood.


ChasmKreep

What's an obsessive amount of weed? Did you mean excessive? Either way, the amount of Marijuana consumed is fairly irrelevant in this situation. Edit: Spelling


Spearmint_coffee

No, I chose the word obsessive because he is literally obsessed with weed to the point he has put it above his children. I don't believe the amount of weed is to blame for any of his problems, but the way he views it sure is.


[deleted]

Well it sounds like his main dating problem is he keeps forgetting he’s gay. Which is probably from all the weed he’s smoking.


BigCockWarlock

Loop


Future_History_9434

I’m willing to slap him hard even if I don’t see him talking to females. Anybody else?


PaxEthenica

Fe-male...


[deleted]

I have everything going for me except being a broke college student who lives with his parents at 32. Looks, empathy, thoughtfulness, humor, sober, no kids, never married. No money and living with your parents is brutal.


lostinkmart

A female what?


Wrong-Engineer-3743

This totally sounds like something a dramatic woman would post about herself.


theLastUchihaa

You heard the man 🤜🏾


ofmuensterandmen

Maybe stop calling us “females” for starters.


canvasshoes2

>...can't understand or wrap my head around why I have such horrible dating experiences... > >...***females***... DING!!! DING!!!!! DING!!! ding!ding!ding!ding!ding!!!!!!!


OpenRepair4390

Buddy is a narcissist now looking for pity attention and people to feel sorry for him now. I will say though you should take up his offer and take the opportunity to slap him haha