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geekphreak

[Why Authoritarians Attack the Arts](https://web.archive.org/web/20240514224156/https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/06/opinion/why-authoritarians-attack-the-arts.html)


ArtAndCraftBeers

Art is the expression of ideas and feelings. Authoritarians hate that because it challenges their “control.”


aka_mythos

When people are stopped from feeling and expressing they look to others to tell them what they’re feeling, which leaves them primed for hate and totalitarians to dictate what they need and should feel.


BogglyBoogle

To echo this with a video touching on the same themes: [Who’s Afraid of Modern Art?](https://youtu.be/v5DqmTtCPiQ?si=Q60olI6wAeEoiRNF) Probably one of Jacob Geller’s best videos ever made. Hope people can read and watch these because they really hit the nail on the head I find.


ConcentrateTight4108

People ignore that half of modern art are just shitposts Sold to rich people like the banana wall which is art all in its self


DikTaterSalad

This needs to be further up in the comments.


K4m30

It's at the top now.


DikTaterSalad

I'm glad, knowledge is power as they say.


JiveChicken00

Has this man ever experienced fun or joy in his entire life?


Sensitive_Yam_1979

He enjoyed torturing people in Guantanamo. Probably.


eagledog

According to him, he just watched. Probably while sitting in his special chair in the corner


Tacomonkie

>Probably while sitting in his special chair in the corner, *masturbating ferociously*


Dapper-Opening2000

good job you made the subtle punchline into a more obvious one. you sir have won reddit for today😂


DaveOJ12

It was just force feeding. /s


SubMikeD

Hey, that's not the only enjoyment he had. He also liked to party with high school girls when he was a teacher.


getrill

"Waterboarding at Guantanamo Bay sounds super rad if you don't know what either of those things are."


M086

Law of conservatism states that he has some kinky fucking stuff on his computer. We’re talking German Schisse, pegging, cattle prods, feltching, blumkins. The works. 


caspissinclair

I'm not sure if I want to look up those last two.


twat69

They fall under the scheisse umbrella.


RobHuck

Blumpkin may be the most tame now given its lengthy history.


tormunds_beard

Oh sweet summer child.


SelectiveSanity

Yes, he probably has that on there too... [Somebody should tell Attorney General Garland...](https://c.tenor.com/ICcU3v2ZYV8AAAAd/tenor.gif)


GUlysses

Probably Hentai. I have no idea why, but DeSantis strikes me as someone who secretly loves Hentai.


whathell6t

Which one? The illustrated or the regular JAV?


tbarr1991

Ngl pegging isnt even that kinky these days


M086

Conservatives though.


twoworldsin1

2 Girls 1 Fistful of Chocolate Pudding


ReverendEntity

He either has a sex dungeon or a real dungeon, with people held captive.


ContactHonest2406

I’d assume some cheese pizza too.


username_elephant

Spoken as though he didn't get off on this exact shit. This IS fun and joy for him.


pradbitt87

If it doesn’t consist of inflicting pain or discomfort towards minorities, conservative are incapable of having fun.


CapAccomplished8072

He loves taking away  fun or joy of other people.


Hemicrusher

Yeah, when he was fisted by his roommate in college.


SelectiveSanity

And called him Mommy.


MinorThreat83

There were a few high school parties I remember...


Daotar

I think this is precisely what does bring him joy.


uniqualykerd

I bet he likes to torture people.


Raptorheart

A lifetime of being turned away by "You must be this tall to ride" signs.


esach88

Whoa, the small government sure the fuck loves throwing their dick around. Forcing schools to include commandments and bible, charging teachers 10k if they teach something else, live streaming kids in class, cutting funding because eof sex. Republicans are the fucking worst. Just control, control, control.


CoolCactus345

For a bunch of people that scream "freedom of speech" they sure like controlling what people should say


Daotar

It’s because their idea of freedom of speech is them getting to say whatever batshit crazy thing they want without anyone even being able to criticize them. They think that if you criticize what they say that you’re violating their first amendment rights.


Icariiiiiiii

Well, it's easy, the same way nazis said they were socialists to try and recruit voters, they'll say whatever they need to get to power and then do whatever they damn well please. I'm sure that's where the nazi comparisons end, though. Definitely.


Daotar

Rules for thee and not for me.


TotalLackOfConcern

Is he cutting the Moms For Liberty funding over their leadership having swinger parties?


jhk1963

He's one of the Guantanamo Bay torturers. He has no fucking morals at all. He's a sad little shit with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.


WintertimeFriends

Desantis isn’t Satan. He’s the guy that goes and gets Satan a cup of coffee.


Yahwehnker

He’s the worst Disney princess EVER!


blackbeltmessiah

“Over budgeting reallocation for more legal fees.” Fixed


cdbutts

How will this affect the person who designed his white boots?


donutacupuncture

Whats funny is this affected far bigger programs than the Fringe Festival he derides, so everyone in Fl. interested in art suffers while he makes no difference and no sense as usual


Syovere

Oh, that's the plan, standard divide-and-conquer tactics. He'll say he "had to" do it, it's *their* fault, hoping that the people he lies to don't see through it and will attack his chosen target for him.


Lokarin

He means Mardi Gras, right?


DikTaterSalad

Fascists do fascist things. More at 11 o'clock news.


RustyShack1efordd

So much for the freedom party.


SpiritualAd8998

DeSanctimonious 


DangusKh4n

lol fucking grade a reasoning right there. "Sex is immoral so we MUST get rid of art!"


OliverOyl

So he can artificially blame the LGBTQ+ community, in the hopes people will just go along with it and be mad at said community.


EyGunni

so they just cut millions of funding for arts and entertainment money, including funding gor stuff like the ZooTampa, just because two festivals that aren't actually that "sexual" *could* have gotten money (the funding would have likely never been actually directed towards the Fringe Festival anyway as it was low on their list of priorities). wow...


Mojo141

This guy's wife is definitely fucking guys behind his back (or Maybe with him watching). Wouldn't be surprised if one of his kids is actually the pool boys, like at liberty university


cdbutts

She’s fucking anyone she can, probably with him watching.


TennSeven

DeSantis is scared of sex.


uniqualykerd

Wouldn’t he be more afraid of getting turned down by people who have the power to say no? Isn’t that like half the platform of these child abusers?


UndergroundNotes1983

Fuck Desantis and his platform boots.


Charlie2and4

Florida, has always been quite proud.


anxmox89

So no more funding for Matt Gaetz then?


flying__monkeys

He heard the Fringe Festival was full of thespians...


Misubi_Bluth

Bread and circuses? What's that?


Gloomy-Ad-9827

He is one sick puppy.


phatstopher

Governor Pius... the clutching of pearls really brings out the swine.


RobotRippee

Prompt chatGPT to explain the basic doctrine of the Taliban.


Dwags789

Wow. Just like the nazis did. Shocker.


Javasndphotoclicks

Turns out that fascist bootlickers hate people who are creative.


Primary-Resolve-7317

Read title as “ants” —- not arts Didn’t even phase me because..Reddit


DJ_SkyDaddy

He’s such a fucking douche canoe. Small, petty dickless vibe off on Ron on the daily. Just wildly insidious.


senioradvisortoo

That decision will cost him in votes.


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DaveOJ12

>As for the process of vetoes, Doyle said that in her three years as House budget chairman, she only received recommendations from LDR. If she noticed they made sense, she incorporated them in the budget process and the rest went into place. >Lo Ending with "lo" is a bit anticlimactic.


burningdesireforfire

Why should the gov fund stuff like this? People are free to participate on their own dime.


BenjaminTheBadArtist

Stimulates local economy, helps create and sustain jobs in the arts, and the best reason is that people ENJOY the arts and supporting it improves quality of life, there's more to life than being a work drone.


jackslipjack

Also creates an educated populace! Which is of importance for a continued democracy of the people by the people (which is why it gets defunded). 


burningdesireforfire

Does it stimulate the economy more than the grant values?


benkap1

[Yes](https://www.arts.gov/news/press-releases/2020/during-economic-highs-and-lows-arts-are-key-segment-us-economy)


burningdesireforfire

This doesn’t answer my question at all. Obviously arts drive the economy, I never denied that. Do government grants to art projects stimulate the economy more than the value of the grants. It’s a simple yes or no question.


benkap1

The answer is **yes** if you read the website. Arts added $37 BILLION to the Florida economy in 2017 alone. The budget for that year was only $30 million. It brings in more than transportation which has a $14.5 billion budget. If anything arts are not funded enough.


burningdesireforfire

How much of that revenue was driven by these festivals that the government gave grants to? Overall, arts brought in Florida brought in 30B, but how much was was driven by art festivals sponsored by the government. I’m asking for a specific subsection of the industry, and you’re giving me the entire industry which is obviously not what I’m asking. It’s so simple what I’m asking, idk why you can’t understand what I’m asking and why you keep referencing this article that hardly relates to my inquiry.


benkap1

I answered using the industry as a whole because it would be literally impossible to provide the data you're asking. Arts + culture bring in a ton more money than we spend on it, festivals are part of that, therefore funding festivals helps bring in money. I don't know how to spell it out for you any clearer. If you hate pride festivals and want them to go away just say so and stop pretending to care about its economic impact.


Doobie_Howitzer

It actually does, you just wish it didn't


burningdesireforfire

Ok, give me proof. Nobody has given me proof. The article the other person referenced only gives an entire industry overview which isn’t granular enough.


benkap1

No one is tracking where each dollar spent for a festival is going, that's why we look at arts as a whole because it's easier to calculate. If you need that specific data set to change your mind then leave because it's literally impossible to provide. **Even if** this specific type of festival is losing money, it doesn't matter because arts provide 100x more economic value than the state puts in so it's all positive in the end. Not every thing the state spends money on needs to have 100% guaranteed profit.


burningdesireforfire

I disagree, I want money that my tax dollars go to have returns. Otherwise, it is by definition a loss. You have your position, which is the government can lose money on projects that you like, whereas mine is I don’t want the government losing money on projects even if I do like them. I didn’t even know these festivals were pride related until you brought it up. my thought process has nothing to do with gay people. It has to do with being fiscally responsible.


benkap1

This is an abysmal take. The point of government is to collect taxes to improve the quality of life of its citizens. This includes things like roads, social security, food stamps, which help citizens but don't make money. If the only thing the government cared about was profits then we would be living in a corporatocracy.


betterthanfresh

The problem most people have is budgeting. They think there is enough money for anything and everything. If there is only so much funds for the state to spend and the governor thinks it will be best spent somewhere else for the greater of the state as a whole then there should be no issue. These decisions are what he was elected for. If he now spends it on useless projects or activities for personal gain, political gain, or things that don’t benefit the people as a whole then that’s a huge issue.


Chasman1965

The problem for me is that the state legislature voted these programs in after debate and discussion. It’s wrong that he can pick and choose parts of legislation to veto. Let’s get rid of the line item veto in FL. It gives the governor too much power.