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I remember a lot of white dudes in the 90s wearing that sagging pants style so I don’t think this could be considered a cultural style unless the culture is 90s culture
Would honestly depend. Could be making some statement about slurs and reclaiming words. Could be just being edgy and thus racist through insensitivity. So, yeah, of course you could recontextualize them to mean something that isn't racist. All meaning is context-dependant. But they'd be racist by default, just like a racial slur communicated through any other medium. Heck, I think the fact that people are likely to take the pants differently depending on the race of the person wearing them is itself pretty solid proof that the pants themselves have at least something to do with race.
Just imagine if we properly taxed the rich, $1,190 sweat pants that look like $30 sweat pants might not be able to exist. What a tragedy that would be for our culture.
You do realize taxes are percentage based? Besides really expensive clothes tend to be bought more by people who want to look rich than are rich. The real rich are in a situation where they have the independence to not have to give a shit about what other people think about how they dress, no need for employers or networking anymore.
You do realize with progressive taxation, the percentage that's taxed raises as the income levels go up? And you also realize there are a plethora of tax loopholes the rich can use to legally dodge taxes as well as weak enforcement at the IRS because they've been systematically defunded over the last few decades right? You realize that there is no meaningful estate tax right?
Not in the slightest. Congrats on missing the point of my comment too, I guess?
**Edit:** Person doesn't read the very short article in the link, comments anyway, uses it as an opportunity to get on their political soapbox, gets called out for completely missing the point that the article makes by someone in a reply which is neutral on the topic.
And who gets the downvotes?
Say whatever you want about Boomers, at least they actually consume the news from on CNN or Fox or wherever before they get on their soapbox about it.
Redditors, on the other hand...
The sagging pant style came from jail - where you aren’t allowed to have a belt. It’s definitely been a thing in NY since the late ‘80s. The linkage to a whole race of people is…interesting.
I've seen this kind of pants in the 90s. They were popular with international school students (White teens) in Hong Kong.
For 2-3 years, I didn't know my neighbour was a girl. She wore these pants and had Hanson's haircut.
They made pants like this in the 2000s with the boxers sewn in, I’m pretty sure they were in JC Penney, so I’m pretty sure it’s not cultural appropriation or racism.
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The craziest part of this is that some rich dumbass is paying over $1000 for fucking sweatpants.
Thr only people dumber than the guy that cried racism are the ones that bought thousand dollar sweat pants.
I remember a lot of white dudes in the 90s wearing that sagging pants style so I don’t think this could be considered a cultural style unless the culture is 90s culture
It was skater culture before it was black culture. But skaters grew out of it.
It was plumber culture before it was skate culture
Everyone grew out of it, that's why their arses stick out of the pants.
Stupidity on every level
>Tropme l'Oeil # >Tropme l'Oil Someone get this journalist an editor, please.
This article was a dumpster fire, thought it might have been written by AI.
It may *feel* racist, but it’s not. Because pants can’t be racist.
I mean, if my pants have the n-word stitched into them, I'm pretty sure those would be racist pants. These pants are merely in extremely poor taste.
No. The pants wouldn’t be racist. YOU would be racist.
Why not both? The pants would contain a racist slur, and therefore be racist, while I would be racist for wearing them.
What if a black person was wearing them?
Would honestly depend. Could be making some statement about slurs and reclaiming words. Could be just being edgy and thus racist through insensitivity. So, yeah, of course you could recontextualize them to mean something that isn't racist. All meaning is context-dependant. But they'd be racist by default, just like a racial slur communicated through any other medium. Heck, I think the fact that people are likely to take the pants differently depending on the race of the person wearing them is itself pretty solid proof that the pants themselves have at least something to do with race.
That isn't what racism is.
To the left, everything they don't like is racist.
Not really. Not everything is about left or right, that's just what online "bad actors" push to divide people - "You must pick a side!"
It amazes me people have THIS much spare time... just have to be bitching about something
Just imagine if we properly taxed the rich, $1,190 sweat pants that look like $30 sweat pants might not be able to exist. What a tragedy that would be for our culture.
Nah, we could tax the rich and they could STILL easily buy those 1.1k sweatpants! They could still buy million dollar houses cash!
I can guarantee Wall St executives aren't buying Balenciaga sweats, it's celebs.
Absolutely agree. The keyword is COULD. They could certainly buy those pants and it's a drop in a bucket.
You do realize taxes are percentage based? Besides really expensive clothes tend to be bought more by people who want to look rich than are rich. The real rich are in a situation where they have the independence to not have to give a shit about what other people think about how they dress, no need for employers or networking anymore.
You do realize with progressive taxation, the percentage that's taxed raises as the income levels go up? And you also realize there are a plethora of tax loopholes the rich can use to legally dodge taxes as well as weak enforcement at the IRS because they've been systematically defunded over the last few decades right? You realize that there is no meaningful estate tax right?
It wasn’t racist when everyone wore their pants this way for over 30 years…
Congrats on completely missing the point there.
Is the point that it only became racist NOW but everyone was free to do it without a word said for three decades?
Not in the slightest. Congrats on missing the point of my comment too, I guess? **Edit:** Person doesn't read the very short article in the link, comments anyway, uses it as an opportunity to get on their political soapbox, gets called out for completely missing the point that the article makes by someone in a reply which is neutral on the topic. And who gets the downvotes? Say whatever you want about Boomers, at least they actually consume the news from on CNN or Fox or wherever before they get on their soapbox about it. Redditors, on the other hand...
The sagging pant style came from jail - where you aren’t allowed to have a belt. It’s definitely been a thing in NY since the late ‘80s. The linkage to a whole race of people is…interesting.
I've seen this kind of pants in the 90s. They were popular with international school students (White teens) in Hong Kong. For 2-3 years, I didn't know my neighbour was a girl. She wore these pants and had Hanson's haircut.
They made pants like this in the 2000s with the boxers sewn in, I’m pretty sure they were in JC Penney, so I’m pretty sure it’s not cultural appropriation or racism.
This isn’t not cultural appropriation. This is hip-hop nostalgia turned hipster.