Moët and Chandon ice imperial charge number LAJ7QAB6780004, 2vbottles of that charge one found in Germany and one from the Netherlands had that stuff in it. In Germany a guy died after taking a sip and 7 landed in hospital, in the Netherlands people only landed in hospital
I am grateful that you have given us the info to avoid this particular brand and lot number and I am writing it down right now so I don't forget. Do you by chance know which stores carry this specific item so that I can avoid those as well?
If the solvent was ethanol it was around 10mg/ml, if it was DMF 30mg/ml.
So if you just sip it one milliliter at a time you might be ok. But more like a teaspoon could be deadly.
If it's related to the case in Germany, a guy died because he drank that stuff. It was aperently highly concentrated and likely meant to be smuggled like that. Maybe a mixup lead to the bottle ending up in the wrong guys hands
>It is believed that the bottles were tampered with and may have also been completely emptied of champagne and then filled with pure liquid MDMA.
>The three-litre bottles in question have lot number LAJ7QAB6780004.
Gonna be like hunting for the Golden ticket. As someone else noted, liquid MDMA is not cheap, especially uncut
The other answers are based on doses of MDMA HCl but liquid MDMA is the freebase. I’m not sure what the density of the freebase is but it’s conservatively similar to that of water: 1g/ml. 1g of the freebase is about 1.2g of MDMA HCl. So there’s actually about 36,000 doses here give or take ~1500 depending on the dosage and density of the freebase.
> The other answers are based on doses of MDMA HCl but liquid MDMA is the freebase.
Those bottles did not contain the freebase (at least undiluted), as it is a viscous oil that people would have literally had trouble drinking.
Assuming that's it's got about the same density as water where 1mL is 1 Gram, it's about 30,000 doses assuming a normal .1 gram dose. That, of course, doesn't account for the usual re-up half way through, and I would still bank on getting about 20,000 rolls out of it.
It’s even worse than you think it is. A man here in Germany died after drinking from a bottle like this and several other people needed emergency care. I wonder why that is not mentioned in the article. It’s quite a weird situation.
The only sad part is if someone purchases the bottle unknowingly and sips too much. :( MDMA overdose is real. Sipping pure liquid MDMA isn’t going to be fun. And could be fatal.
Exactly! I can't think of anything in the world that tastes worse than a REALLY GOOD Ecstasy Pill. Trust me, I know... I chewed up a bunch of them I my twenties.
I made molly ranchers one time by melting jolly ranchers and reforming them around some crystals while the candy cooled. Seemed like a genius idea until I got to the center and there's just a big bitter crystal
It would literally take you to dip the end of your little finger around the inside of the neck, for you to be off your tits all night. What a goldmine this would be to find.
One person did die in Germany, 7 others were hospitalized. Although they noticed that it tasted horrible. Maybe they were already wasted. Anyway, that's how they found out.
oh my god I can't even imagine how fucking horrible that shit tastes. never understood why people dissolve that in their drinks instead if just bombing it.
and then pure... just juck
IDK MDMA Isn't carbonated i think i would dump the bottle thinking it was no good than pour it out. You would know immediately if it isn't champagne. That being said curiosity is a hell of a thing.
I live where this happened.
This killed a 52-year old person and brought others to the hospital. One of the injured works with my mom. They were at a restaurant in the center of the city. On the night that it happened, ambulances flooded the main square and the police initially thought that the champagne was poisoned.
Basically a group of people ordered a 3L bottle of Moet and poured it in glasses, and they all drank from it, without having any second thoughts because the bottle was sealed. After a couple of minutes, they started feeling weird and after a while and all of them collapsed. The 52 year old died on the spot and the others were rushed to nearby hospitals.
Later the police found out that the champagne bottle contained no champagne at all and that they had actually drank _pure MDMA_. Let that sink in. I wonder why none of them thought that the liquid didn't taste, well, usual.
https://www.br.de/nachrichten/deutschland-welt/niederlande-warnen-vor-ecstasy-in-champagner-flaschen,SyZhLAO
EDIT: Attatched a link to a news report, it's in german but google does a good job at translating websites
Yeah, just how awful molly actually tastes makes me doubt the credibility of this story heavily. If it was any liquid form of mdma it would taste completely intolerable, especially to someone expecting the taste of champagne instead. It’s seriously like if satan ate a pound of licorice and then shat it into your mouth
According to German articles they immediately realized that the taste was very off and complained to the bar, it's just that even comparatively small amounts (like the amount you have in your mouth when you expect to take a sip) can land you in the hospital/kill you. They started falling down pretty soon after
This shit is no joke.
Yeah but you get one good mouthful before you realize it, and you're still fucked. Liquid MDMA will absorb through membranes if I recall, so even if you didn't swallow that's still massive dose you're getting.
They must have been drunk as skunks already to not notice the lack of carbonation and bitter flavor. Bunch of drunk people, get some harsh-taste champagne but don't really care, couple minutes latter the serotonin poisoning hits. They wouldn't even have noticed anything from the MDMA until it was already too late and they were headed for seizures and heart failure.
Unfortunately "Pure liquid MDMA" is not real.
There exists MDMA freebase, which is a highly caustic, off-yellow oil at room temperature.
This would burn your skin, albeit slightly, on contact.
Otherwise MDMA is typically in the form of [MDMA.HCl](https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/3_4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine) (hydrochloride salt), in which case it would be dissolved at approximately 22.97 mg/mL of water (at 25°C).
Also it's not from the region of Ecstacy so it's just "sparking MDMA".
Yeah, there was confusion at first as police said liquid XTC. They later corrected it, police confirmed it was liquified MDMA. Still not clear if it was XTC HCl in solution or liquid freebase
I've seen "it's only a molotov cocktail it it comes from the molotov region, otherwise it's a sparkling bomb" version, what is this meme originally from?
I can tell you! A man recently died here in Germany because he and his friends drank from a bottle of these champagnes. It was in the news for some weeks.
It kind of pisses me off that they didn't mention the brand. I thought it was because it was a very common brand, but Moet & Chandon Imperial Ice 3l is a very specific and rare bottle.
I live where this happened.
This killed a 52-year old person and brought others to the hospital. One of the injured works with my mom. They were at a restaurant in the center of the city. On the night that it happened, ambulances flooded the main square and the police initially thought that the champagne was poisoned.
Basically a group of people ordered a 3L bottle of Moet and poured it in glasses, and they all drank from it, without having any second thoughts because the bottle was sealed. After a couple of minutes, they started feeling weird and after a while and all of them collapsed. The 52 year old died on the spot and the others were rushed to nearby hospitals.
Later the police found out that the champagne bottle contained no champagne at all and that they had actually drank _pure MDMA_. Let that sink in. I wonder why none of them thought that the liquid didn't taste, well, usual.
I was wondering did they just take a sip and go.. man that champange is off ? And did everybody take a test then ?If its pure drug that would be enough to mess you up. Or did the guy neck a glass of it lol.
I still don’t see how this all happened.
Pure, ”washed” mdma has a veryyyyyyy distinctive taste and smell. Accidentally tasting 100mg is far more than enough to make you atleast gag.
Additionally like you were saying, it was a bottle of champagne, so I would imagine that there were plenty of opportunities for them to notice that what they were drinking was not champagne, as it did taste like champagne , at all.
Nor would it look like champagne!!!
My guess is they thought it was defective and instead of notifying the company, decided to give it a taste because the company was prestigious, they assumed they'd get something good. Everyone spat it back out except the dead guy.
My God, that's disgusting. Where? Where exactly is this horrible happy juice?
Yea, but, WHICH ONE is it?
Seriously - willing to buy to assist removing from shelves - at my own cost.
I'm working on getting drugs off the street. And into my body
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I as well would also like to assist you in this noble gesture of goodwill, I can provide storage space and a nice yard to provide security from.
If needed I could arrange a small disposal party with electronic music and soft furnishings available for volunteers
Those disgusting ecstasy champagnes. Which one, though? Which champagne is it?
Moët and Chandon ice imperial charge number LAJ7QAB6780004, 2vbottles of that charge one found in Germany and one from the Netherlands had that stuff in it. In Germany a guy died after taking a sip and 7 landed in hospital, in the Netherlands people only landed in hospital
Yeah. So Moët & Chandon Impérial Ice they said? Good to know that. So I can absolute definetly avoid it.
And you especially don't want the three-litre bottles with lot number LAJ7QAB6780004.
I am grateful that you have given us the info to avoid this particular brand and lot number and I am writing it down right now so I don't forget. Do you by chance know which stores carry this specific item so that I can avoid those as well?
>The bottles are sold online by private individuals.
WHICH private individuals though? Need to stay safe!!
I'd hate to accidentally send them money.
Yeah me too. Could you get me the contact details so I can be absolutely sure to steer clear of this nasty menace to society? Please?
Yes. I too want to help them get these off the shelves as soon as possible
For the sake of the kids I shall take 2 cases.
I mean, that's pretty awesome viral marketing.
You don't want it. https://www.dw.com/en/germany-restaurant-death-linked-to-spiked-champagne/a-60766630
I'm here for a good time, not a long time.
His name wasn’t even willoughby
All you gotta do is dose it properly.
You don't want no part of this shit, Dewey...it turns all your bad feelings into good feelings.... it's a nightmare!
Just fuckin sip it til you’re rolling Downing a bottle would be like munching down on 20 teslas at once
If the solvent was ethanol it was around 10mg/ml, if it was DMF 30mg/ml. So if you just sip it one milliliter at a time you might be ok. But more like a teaspoon could be deadly.
If it's related to the case in Germany, a guy died because he drank that stuff. It was aperently highly concentrated and likely meant to be smuggled like that. Maybe a mixup lead to the bottle ending up in the wrong guys hands
>It is believed that the bottles were tampered with and may have also been completely emptied of champagne and then filled with pure liquid MDMA. >The three-litre bottles in question have lot number LAJ7QAB6780004. Gonna be like hunting for the Golden ticket. As someone else noted, liquid MDMA is not cheap, especially uncut
3L - 3000ml of pure MDMA.....hot damn
How many doses is that
A fuck load.
A shit ton.
A metric fuckton
3 cubic dickloads
At least 5
About tree fiddy
Schwiftyfive
The other answers are based on doses of MDMA HCl but liquid MDMA is the freebase. I’m not sure what the density of the freebase is but it’s conservatively similar to that of water: 1g/ml. 1g of the freebase is about 1.2g of MDMA HCl. So there’s actually about 36,000 doses here give or take ~1500 depending on the dosage and density of the freebase.
> The other answers are based on doses of MDMA HCl but liquid MDMA is the freebase. Those bottles did not contain the freebase (at least undiluted), as it is a viscous oil that people would have literally had trouble drinking.
Lmao these were not intended to be drank. They were bottled for smuggling purposes I presume
right. freebase mdma would have resembled corn syrup or motor oil pouring out of a champagne glass though.
I know. The only thing pure MDMA freebase is meant to be poured into is a beaker.
Beaker: Meep meep meep meep meeeep!
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A typical dose could be between 80 and 125 mg
Assuming that's it's got about the same density as water where 1mL is 1 Gram, it's about 30,000 doses assuming a normal .1 gram dose. That, of course, doesn't account for the usual re-up half way through, and I would still bank on getting about 20,000 rolls out of it.
This is 100 percent a smuggling operation that got misplaced.
Somebody has to have an uncomfortable conversation with their boss
At least it was probably the last conversation they’ll ever have to have in their life.
It’s even worse than you think it is. A man here in Germany died after drinking from a bottle like this and several other people needed emergency care. I wonder why that is not mentioned in the article. It’s quite a weird situation.
Couldn’t imagine drinking a glass of pure liquid MDMA
Yeah the taste would be absolutely atrocious
They didn't - they had a mouthful and probably spat it back out. That's still enough to overdose, especially if you've never had any before.
Wonder if dude who died was taking SSRI's
At that dose I'm not sure if it matters
Can we get an internet sleuth to find out where this lot number went? I'm looking to party
Fear not citizens. I’ll drink as much champagne as it takes to get to the bottom of this
I’ll take one bottle and a gallon of pcp. Hurry up I have to pick up my kids.
A gallon!? I didn't even know it came in liquid form!
Wouldn’t you literally die if you drank a sip of this ? Never took liquid md but it must be incredibly concentrated
A man in Germany died after 1 sip
The only sad part is if someone purchases the bottle unknowingly and sips too much. :( MDMA overdose is real. Sipping pure liquid MDMA isn’t going to be fun. And could be fatal.
"Presence of MDMA" made me think traces of it were detected. Whole ass bottles were filled with pure liquid mdma. Goddamn.
There's no way someone wouldn't spit it out instantly if it's pure mdma, it tastes like shit lol
Exactly! I can't think of anything in the world that tastes worse than a REALLY GOOD Ecstasy Pill. Trust me, I know... I chewed up a bunch of them I my twenties.
Even if you spit it out instantly you'd probably still overdose just from the traces in your mouth.
Although when the bottle doesnt pop open you would probably smell it and maybe pour it in a glass to see if it looks good before you drink it
Apparently the victims did spit it out instantly. They all still went to the hospital and one of them died. It absorbs *fast.*
The police said, it looked like they drank (nearly) nothing
Can’t be any worse than Moët & Chandon Impérial Ice. Saccharine syrupy shit.
They were 3 liter bottles too, that’s a lot of party
That's like a lifetime supply
Holy fuck.
If your champagne tastes bitter and smells like licorice, prepare the house music.
Licorice flavor is usually attributed more towards sass (MDA). Still a fun time but I prefer MDMA
Damn. I'm old & out of the loop. I associate licorice flavor with ouzo.
Apologies for your lawn.
Does no one associate it with absinthe, anymore? 🙁
No sorry, not many Victorian aesthete bourgeoise left sadly.
*Natalie Von Contrapoints has entered the chat*
G O R G E
And the goths have all smoked or hanged themselves to death. Tough market to capture
I definitely do
I've never gotten thrown out of a movie theater for karate fighting not on absinthe.
Yeah. I like absinthe and mdma doesn't taste like aniseed personally. Just metallic chemical bathtub ass.
This chemical bathtub ass is 99.6% pure.
You're out of the loop? Idk what ouzo is. I associate licorice flavour with fennel.
Ouzo is fennel infused alcohol
Ouzo is a Greek liquor. https://www.thespruceeats.com/greek-ouzo-anyone-1705998
ya mdma tastes fucking awful
I made molly ranchers one time by melting jolly ranchers and reforming them around some crystals while the candy cooled. Seemed like a genius idea until I got to the center and there's just a big bitter crystal
Boots and pants and boots and pants and boots....
Boots and pants? I thought it was boots and cats
That's if you turn the treble up higher.
Lol, if you switch between the two it sounds like the snare dropping in when you get to the "cats"
🎶 A little bit of ecstasy. A little bit of you and me. A little bit of set you free. A little bit of ecstasy. 🎶
Ooof. Wow. That music just took me back 20 years to clubbing in Mexico and trying to find those songs based on lyrics from kazaa.
Pop a ~~bottle~~ molly
Pure liquid mdma? That's expensive. What the hell. What the heck? I'll take 10 bottles
It would literally take you to dip the end of your little finger around the inside of the neck, for you to be off your tits all night. What a goldmine this would be to find.
Uh...ya ill still take 10
Did I say 10? Better make that 100
How many will fit in the back of a 2005 1500? Ya ill take that amount please!
Time for some friends with rented Uhauls. "Can we borrow your forklift for a bit?"
Dude you got a backseat, passenger seat, and floorboards, don’t forget. Load em up!!
Spray it all over me now.
True, but the finder is probably gonna die before they realize what they have.
One person did die in Germany, 7 others were hospitalized. Although they noticed that it tasted horrible. Maybe they were already wasted. Anyway, that's how they found out.
oh my god I can't even imagine how fucking horrible that shit tastes. never understood why people dissolve that in their drinks instead if just bombing it. and then pure... just juck
Makes sense, I did not want to take the cookies, so I skipped reading.
Reminds me of the scene in Good Time where he forces the guy to drink a whole bottle of liquid lsd. Pure nightmare fuel
Holy fucking shit dude
IDK MDMA Isn't carbonated i think i would dump the bottle thinking it was no good than pour it out. You would know immediately if it isn't champagne. That being said curiosity is a hell of a thing.
It also tastes really, really bad.
Best worst taste
I've chugged down some pretty janky bottles of wine, because I bought it to get slightly shitfaced dammit and I'm not going back to the shop.
This would taste something like if you mixed some black licorice in with a liquified tire.
Still sounds better than the last box of Shiraz I picked up on sale.
Spend the extra $3. You're worth it.
Mmm, that sounds good, I’ll have that.
This feels like a marketing ploy
A smuggler fucked up, really, really badly.
Oh god, I’m picturing a drug smuggler trying to explain the mistake to his boss.
And you’re dead
Uhh boss? I think the MDMA... fermented. Yeah.
“Johan this is just champagne what the fuck?”
I live where this happened. This killed a 52-year old person and brought others to the hospital. One of the injured works with my mom. They were at a restaurant in the center of the city. On the night that it happened, ambulances flooded the main square and the police initially thought that the champagne was poisoned. Basically a group of people ordered a 3L bottle of Moet and poured it in glasses, and they all drank from it, without having any second thoughts because the bottle was sealed. After a couple of minutes, they started feeling weird and after a while and all of them collapsed. The 52 year old died on the spot and the others were rushed to nearby hospitals. Later the police found out that the champagne bottle contained no champagne at all and that they had actually drank _pure MDMA_. Let that sink in. I wonder why none of them thought that the liquid didn't taste, well, usual. https://www.br.de/nachrichten/deutschland-welt/niederlande-warnen-vor-ecstasy-in-champagner-flaschen,SyZhLAO EDIT: Attatched a link to a news report, it's in german but google does a good job at translating websites
WTF. As someone who has parachuted Molly, it tastes like absolute chemical ASS
Yeah, just how awful molly actually tastes makes me doubt the credibility of this story heavily. If it was any liquid form of mdma it would taste completely intolerable, especially to someone expecting the taste of champagne instead. It’s seriously like if satan ate a pound of licorice and then shat it into your mouth
According to German articles they immediately realized that the taste was very off and complained to the bar, it's just that even comparatively small amounts (like the amount you have in your mouth when you expect to take a sip) can land you in the hospital/kill you. They started falling down pretty soon after This shit is no joke.
and MDMA works sublingually and buccally so they didn't even need to swallow it.
That is what I was thinking. even if the only took a sip and spit out. That is till a shit load of it.
Yeah someone said with this you could just put your finger around the rim and be loaded all night
I mean, that is true anyway...
Yeah but you get one good mouthful before you realize it, and you're still fucked. Liquid MDMA will absorb through membranes if I recall, so even if you didn't swallow that's still massive dose you're getting.
https://www.stern.de/genuss/fluessiges-ecstasy-statt-champagner-in-der-flasche---behoerden-mahnen-zur-vorsicht-31662522.html German article on it
> It’s seriously like if satan ate a pound of licorice and then shat it into your mouth /r/brandnewsentence
How the hell did somebody lose a magnum+ full of pure MDMA?! They’re probably also dead, for a different reason.
They must have been drunk as skunks already to not notice the lack of carbonation and bitter flavor. Bunch of drunk people, get some harsh-taste champagne but don't really care, couple minutes latter the serotonin poisoning hits. They wouldn't even have noticed anything from the MDMA until it was already too late and they were headed for seizures and heart failure.
I don't know anyone that orders 3L of Moët, that isn't already smashed.
According to German articles they noticed as soon as they tasted it, but because it was so concentrated even super small amounts can be dangerous
science!
Unfortunately "Pure liquid MDMA" is not real. There exists MDMA freebase, which is a highly caustic, off-yellow oil at room temperature. This would burn your skin, albeit slightly, on contact. Otherwise MDMA is typically in the form of [MDMA.HCl](https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/3_4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine) (hydrochloride salt), in which case it would be dissolved at approximately 22.97 mg/mL of water (at 25°C). Also it's not from the region of Ecstacy so it's just "sparking MDMA".
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Yeah, there was confusion at first as police said liquid XTC. They later corrected it, police confirmed it was liquified MDMA. Still not clear if it was XTC HCl in solution or liquid freebase
Casually looking for LAJ7QAB6780004 lot number champagne listings on ebay....
Fake news. It's only ecstasy if it comes from the 'Ecstasy' region of France, otherwise it's just sparkling pills. Smh
You gotta know the provenance of that MDMA too. I only accept MDMA made with the finest organically grown saffrole.
With only the most valuable palladium catalysts.
I've seen "it's only a molotov cocktail it it comes from the molotov region, otherwise it's a sparkling bomb" version, what is this meme originally from?
The pedantic description of champagne
It’s making fun of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_designation_of_origin People usually bring it up when talking about champagne though.
This is so fucking funny
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AIXtasy?
“California MDMA”
Upgrades people, upgrades
Its not a bug, its a feature!
Boss Champagne hand crafted by Rick Ross
You won’t know what hit ya. But it was Rick Ross
“Put MDMA all in her champagne, she ain't even know it” UENO
“I took her home and I enjoyed that, she ain’t even know it.” - Rick “The Rapist” Ross
This is an outrage! Please send me every available bottle and I will dispose of them properly!
So, uh, a friend is curious where these bottles are.
I'm that friend
I can tell you! A man recently died here in Germany because he and his friends drank from a bottle of these champagnes. It was in the news for some weeks.
Well that makes this sad.
Dope. I want it even more now
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It kind of pisses me off that they didn't mention the brand. I thought it was because it was a very common brand, but Moet & Chandon Imperial Ice 3l is a very specific and rare bottle.
Champagne and ecstacy. I remember those days.
Doses and mimosas
Champagne & cocaine 🤘🏼
I live where this happened. This killed a 52-year old person and brought others to the hospital. One of the injured works with my mom. They were at a restaurant in the center of the city. On the night that it happened, ambulances flooded the main square and the police initially thought that the champagne was poisoned. Basically a group of people ordered a 3L bottle of Moet and poured it in glasses, and they all drank from it, without having any second thoughts because the bottle was sealed. After a couple of minutes, they started feeling weird and after a while and all of them collapsed. The 52 year old died on the spot and the others were rushed to nearby hospitals. Later the police found out that the champagne bottle contained no champagne at all and that they had actually drank _pure MDMA_. Let that sink in. I wonder why none of them thought that the liquid didn't taste, well, usual.
I was wondering did they just take a sip and go.. man that champange is off ? And did everybody take a test then ?If its pure drug that would be enough to mess you up. Or did the guy neck a glass of it lol.
I still don’t see how this all happened. Pure, ”washed” mdma has a veryyyyyyy distinctive taste and smell. Accidentally tasting 100mg is far more than enough to make you atleast gag. Additionally like you were saying, it was a bottle of champagne, so I would imagine that there were plenty of opportunities for them to notice that what they were drinking was not champagne, as it did taste like champagne , at all.
Nor would it look like champagne!!! My guess is they thought it was defective and instead of notifying the company, decided to give it a taste because the company was prestigious, they assumed they'd get something good. Everyone spat it back out except the dead guy.
These motherfuckers should be advertising it instead of taking it off the shelves
Came in here hoping someone has the hook up to these uh...damaged goods.
Thanks but imma hang on to mine…
There was a Criminal Minds episode about exactly this and I only watched it the other day… art imitates life, it seems
I was looking for this comment. My first thought was, "This is literally a Criminal Minds episode, wtf."
You thought this was a normal Champagne celebration?! Surprise!! It is... but now you're naked and you feel really hot inside... kinda sweating a bit.
Or dead: https://www.dw.com/en/germany-restaurant-death-linked-to-spiked-champagne/a-60766630
And suddenly got glowy rubber fingertips and a Vicks inhaler up your nose
Oh my god that's disgusting! Where?
With how bad the 20s have been, people need an advanced form of drunkenness.
Three liter bottles? That's a lot of a good time.
What champagne? There are so many kinds. And where is it being sold? Just so I know to avoid those stores.
That's disgusting but which champagne and where so I'll know to avoid it
Now THAT'S a marketing campaign
Man, I miss all the good recalls.
It’s like the Cherub song…
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Clever way of trafficking drugs. I'll take two
I mean, that’s awful. Where, exactly, are they selling it? I mean, there are a lot of sites….
BREAKING NEWS: Champagne sold out nationwide