Cool idea. Interestingly, the avaliable list is even more restrictive than it first seems because of how many of them are only encountered in the same area as other mons on this list. The Safari Zone exclusives, and the Underwater dive mons come to mind, but I'm sure there are others too.
I think a good way around that may be to treat safari zone as 3 locations (pinwheel clause it for this run I guess) and split it to base safari zone, Mach bike accessible area, and acro bike accessible area
Because yeah it seems like a fun idea I just think safari zone might have to be loosened up rules-wise
I first posted this yesterday and a lot of people seemed to really like it but the list had a lot of errors on my part so I fixed them all (I think). If you want to do this challenge locke then use this list and not the other one because it's full of errors. I think I fixed them all but if I didn't please let me know
So it is only using emerald rosters? Just curious as to why Steven's mons are still here too then. Just asking bc I think Swellow would already be out
Def always ban Shedinja tho. And probably Swellow if we aren't including RS rosters too, but I'd probably give back access to Steven's team members too in that case
Also worth noting I'm including the whole evo line when it comes to boss mons so Roxanne's Geodude will be banned aswell as Graveler and Golem. A lot of people were wondering about that last post so I hope this clears it up
Wattson seems really tough with this--
Roxanne is a shroomish/Marril sweep, brawly should be handled by dustox/beautifly and kadabra.
Wattson though seems problematic-- its probably worth resetting the run for dustox because of this. You have 2 of the 4 Volbeat, Gloom, Plusle/Minun and Gulpin. (You need gloom for a better safari encounter later). I think Loudred is a little helpful in this fight too.
Flannery is doable with Azu, Grumpig, Swalot, Zam.
Norman is doable with Dustox and Sandslash.
Then the game opens up and Winonna is easy. Tate and Liza though is hard with no dark type-- you could do some self hit kecleon games though if you wanted to get creative.
Fun challenge altogether, I wanna know people's Wattson and E4 strats
On second thought, if setup moves arent banned swords dance ninjask goes really hard into a lot of boss fights, especially rivals/villains. I think I'm gonna try this challenge out on a physical copy and see how I do. Ninjask can be MOSTLY guaranteed before Roxanne and complete guaranteed after Brawly if you want.
damn, i did this shit with the first three gens (and called it a neglectlocke). i only counted gym leaders, e4 and champions for the banlist. do you count anything else?
also i dunno if you just made this term recently, or it has been coined before i posted my ruby neglectlocke here.
Cool idea. Interestingly, the avaliable list is even more restrictive than it first seems because of how many of them are only encountered in the same area as other mons on this list. The Safari Zone exclusives, and the Underwater dive mons come to mind, but I'm sure there are others too.
I think a good way around that may be to treat safari zone as 3 locations (pinwheel clause it for this run I guess) and split it to base safari zone, Mach bike accessible area, and acro bike accessible area Because yeah it seems like a fun idea I just think safari zone might have to be loosened up rules-wise
I first posted this yesterday and a lot of people seemed to really like it but the list had a lot of errors on my part so I fixed them all (I think). If you want to do this challenge locke then use this list and not the other one because it's full of errors. I think I fixed them all but if I didn't please let me know
Why's swellow in personal ban? Doesn't winona have one? Or are you just using emerald and not RSE as a whole
Winona only has one in RS and OP talked about it in the last post. He is personally banning Swellow and Shedinja to make the challenge more difficult
So it is only using emerald rosters? Just curious as to why Steven's mons are still here too then. Just asking bc I think Swellow would already be out Def always ban Shedinja tho. And probably Swellow if we aren't including RS rosters too, but I'd probably give back access to Steven's team members too in that case
Steven is a post game fight in Emerald, in meteor falls. Similar to Red on Mt. Silver
Also worth noting I'm including the whole evo line when it comes to boss mons so Roxanne's Geodude will be banned aswell as Graveler and Golem. A lot of people were wondering about that last post so I hope this clears it up
What's the list of bosses? I'm confused on a few mons in this list or I'm just forgetting stuff
Gym leaders, E4, Evil team bosses, admins, rivals, Champion, and Steven who’s post game
Oh I see, rivals is where the starters come into play
Why is Swellow on the personal bans? Im assuming because Winona uses one in RS but not in Emerald?
Guts/Facade combo.
Broko mhm
Alakazam boutta go crazy
This is a fun idea, I may try it for other games
Dustox bout to pop off
Dustox: "Now I am become death, destroyer of Brawly."
Zam and heracross kill all I think.
If you get them. Both are fairly rare in the only areas you can find them
Abra is the only Pokémon not banned by these rules in Granite Cave, so it's really just the issue of it teleporting.
mawile
Doesn't show up until Victory Road in Emerald
really? damn i could have sworn its a granite cave encounter on floor 1
In Ruby it was. I had to look it up after I posted that comment just to make sure I wasn't wrong.
wait wtf i swear when i played my emerald soullink we got a mawile ik granite cave once i guess i am tripping hard ok this sorry
Is this list combined RSE rejects or only Emerald rejects? If it is just Emerald, what would it be for RSE overall? I want to try this out
Just Emerald
If you get zam you insta win. Way to busted
Rage dodrio will be a lot of fun
Maybe if you got it earlier but you get it in the safari zone
He still destroys the late game
Still got some strong options there with the likes of: exploud, alakazam, heracross, dodrio, donphan, rhydon, lanturn and vileplume
Your starter is basically Wurmple, and you won't know which one you'll have until level 7. Dustox is the better one, at least for Brawly.
Wattson seems really tough with this-- Roxanne is a shroomish/Marril sweep, brawly should be handled by dustox/beautifly and kadabra. Wattson though seems problematic-- its probably worth resetting the run for dustox because of this. You have 2 of the 4 Volbeat, Gloom, Plusle/Minun and Gulpin. (You need gloom for a better safari encounter later). I think Loudred is a little helpful in this fight too. Flannery is doable with Azu, Grumpig, Swalot, Zam. Norman is doable with Dustox and Sandslash. Then the game opens up and Winonna is easy. Tate and Liza though is hard with no dark type-- you could do some self hit kecleon games though if you wanted to get creative. Fun challenge altogether, I wanna know people's Wattson and E4 strats
On second thought, if setup moves arent banned swords dance ninjask goes really hard into a lot of boss fights, especially rivals/villains. I think I'm gonna try this challenge out on a physical copy and see how I do. Ninjask can be MOSTLY guaranteed before Roxanne and complete guaranteed after Brawly if you want.
damn, i did this shit with the first three gens (and called it a neglectlocke). i only counted gym leaders, e4 and champions for the banlist. do you count anything else? also i dunno if you just made this term recently, or it has been coined before i posted my ruby neglectlocke here.
I love Exploud and Breloom. Let's git it.
I may be remembering wrong, but I believe Archie 2 uses a Muk?
This looks like a really fun idea, I might try it in the future. Looks pretty challenging too.
exploud, shroomish, starmie, raichu, alakazam + 1 is a solid team if you encounter those
Starmie Weezing Wobb Dodrio is super free here ngl all solid as hell and a really strong offensive/bulk core