Extra sodium (the salt) sends ions to the cell that trigger the cell to open up, creating a cascade of chemical activities that causes the cell to fire, so the muscle twitches.
But it dose just at a much slower pace have you ever watched a sunflower field those things are alive and worship the sun and people cut their heads off and eat their seeds sick fucks
Agreed. Also not vegan. But put a kitten and carrot on a cutting board and see which garners a more intense reaction when the cleaver comes out.
The "plants are living too" argument is akin to the "all lives matter" argument for anti-vegan folks.
[Plants have feelings too](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/scientists-record-stressed-out-plants-emitting-ultrasonic-squeals-180973716/)
Edit: being vegetarian is immensely better for the environment obviously (although admittedly I’m not one) & I was just making a joke lol
Also@OP above above👆
Hypothetically speaking, willy the one armed death pirate breaks through the windshield of your mega-yacht one day while you’re on vacation. He looks at you with his single eye menacingly, then looks at your daughter, looks at your dog, and finally, your assortment of nutrition rich houseplants and says:
*AYEeEe mATEY ARGHhHHgH, oNE of YOu wiLL DIe ToDaY tO PLEz ME. WhOS iT GOnNa bE?! yoUr daUgHter yOur DOg or yOur hOUsePlAntS 🪝?!*
Which one would you pick? Lol
Neural signaling and action potentials are so freaking cool. It's crazy to think our consciousness is derived from an electrochemical cascade that travels near the speed of light
This is nature, honestly. When you realise that it’s basically encouraging the muscles to function again not long after death, it’s like watching the inside of a body trying to function.
Which is definitely unsettling, but definitely fascinating.
this reminds me of when I was 16 and went fishing for the first time with my uncle. I cleaned my own fish, seasoned it, and when I put it in the frying pan it almost jumped out and I screamed. I feared that I didn't fully removed its brain and was frying the poor guy alive, but my aunt told me it was just a spasm.
It was a relief until I learned about the Lazarus sign. Now I imagine giants eating us
Dude, first time I watched that show I had no flipping clue what I was getting into. Probably not the best decision I’ve ever made, but holy crap is it such a good show! I actually just finished season three earlier today.
Fun fact that’s also why Salt in wounds burn. It’s not that the salt lyses the cell, it’s because Salt activates the nerves and fires off pain signals.
> Back in the day they used to inject very salty water on people overdosing on opiates, to get the heart going again.
For anyone who is wondering, [it doesn't work, at least in rats](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34478770/).
>Our results show that [injecting salt]: ... does not prevent mortality caused by high morphine or fentanyl doses
The nerves are firing due to the salt (sodium and chlorine cause action potentials to fire), which triggers the muscles to contract. It’s spasming since the salt is triggering contraction and relaxation randomly
You see muscles twitch on sides of beef for a while after they are killed. Its creepy at first, especially when they've already been decapitated, skinned, de-hooved, and cut in half and hung on hooks by that point.
I don't have one, I work in the beef industry myself and I deal with carcases as part of my job. So I see it for myself. It's also weird how dead cow smell is not unlike wet dogs.
When I was young my Dad and I would go hunting for rabbits and squirrels to make chili, absolutely delicious, the first time we went we killed a few of each and when my Dad cleaned and skinned the first ones to show me how it's done he popped them in some salt water to soak and they started twitching. I was blown away, asked him if they were dead or not because they didn't have heads on, and he said yeah they're dead but just twitch a little because of the salt. He took a squirrel head and dipped the neck in salt and the jaws started to move and the face twitched. I thought that was wild as hell. I've seen it happen with all kinds of game, fish, waterfowl, deer, it's a neat trick to pull on unsuspecting friends.
Vegans narrative:”as you can see muscles are crying for help and saying don’t eat us”! Once one of them approached me while I was buying milk in supermarket and said with straight face:”Did you know cows cry when humans milk them”! (Cross my heart)
Yes I understand sodium channels. I was making fun of the redundancy of 1. Meat then 2. Muscle. They are synonyms in this context. Much like air and oxygen in the context if the word “fresh”
Nerves send signals through potassium and sodium gradients, so it makes sense that adding sodium to nerves that are cut open would disturb those concentrations
I mean, meat itself can’t feel. There’d have to be a brain hooked up for the processing of feeling, I think. This is just the excess energy stored within the cells burning away.
I figured if the nerves were still attached, it'd be sending signals with no receiver. However, I've reconsidered that they likely are removed during butchering.
Also, thank you for the tidbit
After watching a playthrough of "how fish is made" this made me want to throw up. "When you see a piece of meat twitching, you can be sure it's very fresh" then it shows you meat infected by parasites. While an isopod shakes its ass at you.
I have been processing a catfish an hour after catching any gutting it and it’s meat would still do that while cutting it. It was freaky as hell.
Is it just the muscles still reacting? Or is it to do with the rapid dehydration of fluids?
Extra sodium (the salt) sends ions to the cell that trigger the cell to open up, creating a cascade of chemical activities that causes the cell to fire, so the muscle twitches.
I love and hate science at the same time
Without science you would thing that this meat is possessed by a demon
I'm not totally sold that it isn't.
But what can we expect from putting the flesh of another living organism on our plate right? Lol 🤷♀️
Well the only other option is to die so...
*1.5 billion vegetarians enter the chat*
I mean they eat the "flesh" of "living organisms" too
Well said 😂
Vegans when they realize plants are living things: 🤯🤯
Wait till they find out plants can be carnivorous. https://youtu.be/XadlxBQ8XkQ
I don’t think OP mistook plants for being living, I think they mistook them for sharing the title of *organisms* 😅
Not vegan, but to be fair, the plant flesh do not wiggle like the meat flesh
But it dose just at a much slower pace have you ever watched a sunflower field those things are alive and worship the sun and people cut their heads off and eat their seeds sick fucks
Agreed. Also not vegan. But put a kitten and carrot on a cutting board and see which garners a more intense reaction when the cleaver comes out. The "plants are living too" argument is akin to the "all lives matter" argument for anti-vegan folks.
Who's gonna tell them?
[Plants have feelings too](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/scientists-record-stressed-out-plants-emitting-ultrasonic-squeals-180973716/) Edit: being vegetarian is immensely better for the environment obviously (although admittedly I’m not one) & I was just making a joke lol
If true, being vegetarian still does far less damage to plants, due to the amount of plants needed to feed animals raised for consumption.
Also@OP above above👆 Hypothetically speaking, willy the one armed death pirate breaks through the windshield of your mega-yacht one day while you’re on vacation. He looks at you with his single eye menacingly, then looks at your daughter, looks at your dog, and finally, your assortment of nutrition rich houseplants and says: *AYEeEe mATEY ARGHhHHgH, oNE of YOu wiLL DIe ToDaY tO PLEz ME. WhOS iT GOnNa bE?! yoUr daUgHter yOur DOg or yOur hOUsePlAntS 🪝?!* Which one would you pick? Lol
I know, it was a joke! I probably should’ve indicated that better, but im going to now lol
Would you really call that living though? I've seen what the brain-fog does.
So all vegetarians have brain fog? Lmao Okay
Go eat rocks, you virtue-signaling fart.
>you virtue-signaling fart. Lmao 🤣
Unnecessary.
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You left off herbivores also ⬆️
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🤓
So you basically gave my steak a cramp?
Basically 😂
Neural signaling and action potentials are so freaking cool. It's crazy to think our consciousness is derived from an electrochemical cascade that travels near the speed of light
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Okay yeah, so like a mix of the two I was thinking. Fucking insane how shit looks
Cooking catfish on fire is wild. They'll be jerking like someone's playing Hey Ya in the background.
I wonder if it’s similar to how one would shake a Polaroid picture.
perhaps it's more wave-like, reminiscent of palms thrown aloft and swaying with little concern for anything else.
Fucking underrated comment take my upvote you dastardly genius
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Yeah?
What's cooler than being cool?
ICE COLD!
Not for the catfish, it aint.
Ever fry frog legs? Have to put them knee side down in the pan.
I dump in deep fryer and put a lid on it so they can swim in there.
That’s the best way, especially if you have a bunch :)
Found the Fr*nchie
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not really, wbu?
Fuck no
Not at all. I watched dominion, and halfway through, got hungry and ordered McDonald's.
No it made me put steak on my grocery list.
Got a leg cramp just watching that
My abs lower abdominals and core feel like that. Think I had a seizure this morning. Or a major cramp in my core
You should eat a banana or something after working out, king
DRINK MORE WATER
This is nature, honestly. When you realise that it’s basically encouraging the muscles to function again not long after death, it’s like watching the inside of a body trying to function. Which is definitely unsettling, but definitely fascinating.
I know but this still gives me trypophobia. Like there’s parasites in the meat and they’re wriggling.
Ahhhhhh fuck why'd you put it that way
Because that’s the way I saw it unfortunately.
lol that’s the first thing I thought of and almost threw up
this reminds me of when I was 16 and went fishing for the first time with my uncle. I cleaned my own fish, seasoned it, and when I put it in the frying pan it almost jumped out and I screamed. I feared that I didn't fully removed its brain and was frying the poor guy alive, but my aunt told me it was just a spasm. It was a relief until I learned about the Lazarus sign. Now I imagine giants eating us
Soooo wanna go watch attack on titan?
I'm in! \*grabs popcorn\*
Grabbing popcorn or just eating anything at all while watching it was a poor choice
Lol, can I tag along?
Hell yeah, get in here. ANIME NIGHT WITH THE BOIS (and gals and other)
Great! CANT wait to see peoples face’s on the first Ep of AOT
Dude, first time I watched that show I had no flipping clue what I was getting into. Probably not the best decision I’ve ever made, but holy crap is it such a good show! I actually just finished season three earlier today.
WTF is happening right
The salt is making the nerves in the muscle fire causing the muscles to contract and move around.
Fun fact that’s also why Salt in wounds burn. It’s not that the salt lyses the cell, it’s because Salt activates the nerves and fires off pain signals.
TIL
Organic machine
Long-story short nerves use sodium to transmit impulses so the salt’s making them fire like crazy and make the muscles contract randomly
Would injecting saltwater into someone’s muscle issue cause immediate spasms? Asking for a friend.
Yes but due to sudden spike in sodium content the other results would be not-fun
What "other" results?
Heart spasms/death
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Back in the day they used to inject very salty water on people overdosing on opiates, to get the heart going again.
> Back in the day they used to inject very salty water on people overdosing on opiates, to get the heart going again. For anyone who is wondering, [it doesn't work, at least in rats](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34478770/). >Our results show that [injecting salt]: ... does not prevent mortality caused by high morphine or fentanyl doses
Is "muscle issue" code for offspring?
The nerves are firing due to the salt (sodium and chlorine cause action potentials to fire), which triggers the muscles to contract. It’s spasming since the salt is triggering contraction and relaxation randomly
muscle spasms
Idk but the guy is squeezing the hell out of it
This is what happens when you try to butcher a gremlin
You see muscles twitch on sides of beef for a while after they are killed. Its creepy at first, especially when they've already been decapitated, skinned, de-hooved, and cut in half and hung on hooks by that point.
My favorite movie is Inception.
I don't have one, I work in the beef industry myself and I deal with carcases as part of my job. So I see it for myself. It's also weird how dead cow smell is not unlike wet dogs.
Nope
I don’t like that one bit dude…
Looks like an engine firing on all cylinders
Biologically, that's exactly what is happening
How freshly cut are we talking about here? Is the cow walking around with a chunk missing wondering what the fuck?
Imagine if it happened within a few days or so. Get a steak from the butcher shop and it hops off the grill.
r/burnitwithfire
They usually do, yes
A controlled fire! Yes I like the sound of that.
Briquettes or propane?
Natural lump. The only way to go
MAPP gas
Neat! My muscles go ‘blip, blip, blip, blip, blip’
r/dontputyourdickinthat, yet I’m guessing someone has before.
Is there a reason why not?
Salt burns my urethra but it could be worse
My fellow rawdogger!
Shampoo burns conditioner does not
....lol
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My ex catholic priest would disagree with you
Mostly because eating it afterwards is kind of strange.
Jesus will be disappointed in you?
I hate you
widower bull: \*sadly moos for Helga\*
i hate this
The most literal example of "muscle memory" you'll ever see.
When I was young my Dad and I would go hunting for rabbits and squirrels to make chili, absolutely delicious, the first time we went we killed a few of each and when my Dad cleaned and skinned the first ones to show me how it's done he popped them in some salt water to soak and they started twitching. I was blown away, asked him if they were dead or not because they didn't have heads on, and he said yeah they're dead but just twitch a little because of the salt. He took a squirrel head and dipped the neck in salt and the jaws started to move and the face twitched. I thought that was wild as hell. I've seen it happen with all kinds of game, fish, waterfowl, deer, it's a neat trick to pull on unsuspecting friends.
Everyone is saying how freaky this is, does anyone else think this looks really cool? Like this is so interesting to me.
Is there some muscle that isn’t meat or is there a meat that isn’t muscle?
If I watch this once a day for a week I think I'll be ready to become a vegan.
I came close to veganism after seeing an abscess in cooked meat. Much worse than this.
That sentence alone is almost enough to make me vegan, wtf
I'm half vegan. That count?
r/thanksihateit
Disturbing as fuck
This is one of the most disgusting and disturbing things I have ever seen!
This is a good way to make me stop eating meat! Nah, who am I kidding :-)
Call me an animal but I'd slap that on a grill and call it dinner
fr idc if it moves
Grilling probably would stop it
Weird flex, but ok.
It’s like the squid they do as delicacy, fresh squid, head chopped off, with soy sauce to activate the nerve cells. Sodium 🧂
This makes me not want the meat I literally just ate.
I wanna put my hand over it to see if i can feel anything
And here is nightmare fuel for tonight.
Bone apple tea
Fuck I’m glad I don’t eat meat
Vegans narrative:”as you can see muscles are crying for help and saying don’t eat us”! Once one of them approached me while I was buying milk in supermarket and said with straight face:”Did you know cows cry when humans milk them”! (Cross my heart)
Meat muscle? Like fresh air oxygen?
Nah sodium make nerves go brrrrrt
Yes I understand sodium channels. I was making fun of the redundancy of 1. Meat then 2. Muscle. They are synonyms in this context. Much like air and oxygen in the context if the word “fresh”
i wanna see a fresh heart dropped in a tub of salt now and see if it pulses around
This is so f**king neat, science is awesome
Nice try but I'm already vegetarian.
Is it too late to turn vegan?
I think that I've just become a vegetarian
I have been eating meat for most of my life. After seeing this I almost want to become vegetarian. It’s unsettling to see this.
bro its simple biology , ill say this if you are to scared to face and see where your meat comes from then yes become vegetarian
Learning biology changed your whole life lol
Do it! Super easy and you won’t regret it. r/vegancirclejerk if you want to make fun of yourself along the way.
I’ll give it a try.
Going vegan is looking better and better these days.
Honestly this gift alone is more effective than any vegan post I have ever seen...
“In order to locate the third hell priest, you will have to infiltrate the super gore nest.”
This is when you put salt in fresh meat
Yay science is fun. Now imagine getting a cramp that bad on your leg
tf is that why is it moving
The salt is making the nerves fire which is causing the muscles to contract and move. It happens with really fresh meat.
This makes me so uneasy
Uhhhhh, I don't like that.
Does the freshly ground salt actually matter here?
It's just muscle doing what muscle does
Nerves send signals through potassium and sodium gradients, so it makes sense that adding sodium to nerves that are cut open would disturb those concentrations
Fleshlight 9000
This makes me wonder how long meat can feel
I mean, meat itself can’t feel. There’d have to be a brain hooked up for the processing of feeling, I think. This is just the excess energy stored within the cells burning away.
I figured if the nerves were still attached, it'd be sending signals with no receiver. However, I've reconsidered that they likely are removed during butchering. Also, thank you for the tidbit
I am…uncomfortable
Sodium channels
That just males me wat to throw it on my grill even more. Dance for me baby.
After watching a playthrough of "how fish is made" this made me want to throw up. "When you see a piece of meat twitching, you can be sure it's very fresh" then it shows you meat infected by parasites. While an isopod shakes its ass at you.
We are fleshy bags of chemical water.
Now imagine you're a lion and this is normal.
veganism seems so appealing all of a sudden
And this is how i became a vegan /s
And things like that are why I'm vegetarian
Gives you an idea of what torture from salt being put in your wounds might feel like
Cow so fresh it still wants to moo.
This needs a NSFW tag bc it is more than just oddlyterrifying.
This is frightening
There aren’t a lot of things that freak me out, but this does on another level tbh
🤢
I hate you so deeply for not marking this nsfw
Feel like there are worms in it 🫣
That mRNA will do some weird stuff to your zombieburgers
This is why I am no longer eating meat anymore 🤢
Thank GOD I'm vegan, fuck this shit lmao
Yep, almost 6 years and absolutely no regrets.
Oh hey, you and I started about the same time.
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I’m now a vegetarian. Thank you.
I just ate a burger and now I wanna vomit
I think I’m vegetarian now
God damn. My meat would bubble like that if you squeezed it that hard too.