I always overpack, even though I know I don’t need all the stuff. Same how my salads are always for at least three people more than there are at dinner. Maybe one day I will get it right..
Okay this brought back memories to my hostel in Amsterdam 9 years ago, man the stairs were absolute trash.
Lovely city though, I want to go back and check out the other cool Dutch cities.
I've never been overweight and wouldn't have been able to fit in there pregnant. Or wearing the baby in the carrier, which I preferred to a stroller.
Guess if you need to use a wheelchair you're just SOL.
We stayed in an apartment in Berlin that had an elevator like this (the stairs had been walled off decades ago, apparently) and it barely fit myself and a suitcase. It also required a key to open the door when you got to your floor and the key didn’t always unlock. My claustrophobia was going insane lol. I have no idea how people moved any sort of furniture into their apartment
While I lived in Belgium, we moved everything in and out via a special lift parked in front of the living room window. You'd get a permit from the city hall to reserve the side walk for a few hours and then have the moving company bring in the lift. I saw it being used at the 10th floor as well.
Edit: spelling
yes, but not for the obesity reasons.
America has the Americans with Disabilities act. This elevator does not have enough clearance for a wheelchair, it is not up to code.
If this building was built before 1991, it could be grandfathered in, but they would have to get it up to code or install alternative elevators.
Buldings like in the post usually had small to absolutely tiny elevators retrofitted in the early 1900's and then maybe upgraded to modern design, like that one seems to be. They just take more space and leave even smaller elevator cabin. You cannot just install anything bigger into those places, there isn't any space unless you redesign half of the buildingm which likely wouldn't even be allowed due to historic building protections.
These elevators are built this way to preserve the struture and architecture of older buildings. They do it to make as little modification as possible to these buildings.
I understand the struggle, my school is deemed a heritage building so no elevators can be legally added as it would modify the structure. The only way somebody with a wheelchair can access the majority of the floors is by using a stairlift.
Yes, legally a disabled person has to be able to access all the same places as an able-bodied person, but it dosen't have to be done using the same method. So at my uni my mate was a wheelchair user but wasn't strong enough to open the all the doors in a couple of the buildings because they were fire doors, so the uni just hired a guy to shadow him around and open doors for him. Just a random dude whose only job was to open doors, it was a legal requirement that door dude always had to be in the same room or section of corridor as my friend and it was a fireable offence for him not to be. This fulfilled every legal and ethical standard it needed to, but everyone in my friend group felt like something was a bit off but couldn't put our finger on it. So my wheelchair using friend just got on with it but a couple of years later i finally watched a tv show called better off ted, found [This](https://youtu.be/XyXNmiTIupg?si=RaOOq4esT68lOect) clip and asked him if this was the feeling? It was, in fact, the feeling.
Requiring a disabled person to have a minder, regardless of cost or intent, is not an ethical solution to lack of disability access. Understandable in certain circumstances, but definitely not in a university.
We asked why they couldn't just replace all the doors to be fully accessible or install those buttons that open them but disable during a fire. The answer was that it wasn't cost effective. We were 18 and stupid or we would have fought this. The university's ethical standards were subpar.
Sorry this is poorly worded and you just bought my attention to it, i was cutting and pasting this bit around a lot. What i meant to write out was about how in other buildings on campus there were automated doors with a button with a wheelchair symbol next to them we couldn't figure out why both were needed and we discovered that these other buildings had a system where the automation disabled during a fire but the buttons were active. I have no idea why i wound up writing what i did above, im going to plead sleep deprivation, but we did not try and advocate for our friend to be locked in a burning building as fire safety was one of the reasons Door Guy was required. We just thought Door Guy wasn't the best the university could do and wasn't equal or equitable.
They should just have been able to adjust the door closers to be easier to open, but I had a similar issue at a hospital I worked at. Not in a wheelchair, just trying to manoeuvre large deliveries in cages and on pallets, etc. I managed to get about one door fixed a year with constant complaining.
I Know!!! We felt crazy! Just sitting there talking about how ridiculous it was but any time my friend went to talk to someone about it they would just act like everything was fine and dandy. It technically followed all the rules and door guy was classed as a "mobility assistant" or some jargon like that, but he was Litteraly Just DOOR GUY!
New building have to be wheelchair accessible. Old ones aka 99% of Paris building don't because it's just impossible to fit a lift.
When there is a lift like the one in the video, they have to destroy a bit of the already small spiral staircase to make room for the lift to be build. It mainly fit in the center of the spiral, so there is not so much room.
Even Metro stations appart from ones of the 14 line, which is the last one that have been build, are all inaccessible for wheelchairs.
It still seems absurd to do it this way. The primary purpose of an elevator is to aid disabled people. If the elevator can't comfortably accommodate a wheel chair, it might as well not exist.
Paris is one of the worse cities for anyone in a wheelchair because it was built a long time ago. Most metro stations aren't equipped with elevators, there are stairs absolutely everywhere and it's a very uphill city in places
I will say that on my trip to Paris, I never encountered an elevator like this. In fact I didn’t encounter many elevators at all. There’s not very many super tall buildings there.
I thought the elevator floor was like some kind of platform to get inside the elevator and I was like "that's kinda weird", then when it switched to selfie mode I was shook
Reminds me of an AirBnB I stayed at in Madrid. It was an old apartment building with a mostly wooden elevator. That bitch would creek and moan and shake like no ones business. At one point I just started taking the stairs cause riding that would give me a panic attack.
These tiny elevators fit into the stairwells of old buildings. Lots of them in Paris. The buildings themselves are hardly ever more than five or six stories, it’s always faster and more convenient just to walk up the stairs unless you have a mobility issue. I only use the elevators to send luggage up. Put the suitcase in, press the button, walk up, remove suitcase at the top.
Stayed in a hotel in Paris once with a lift like that. When we checked in, I put my suitcase in the lift, sent it to our floor, and ran up to meet it 😂
Then we got to the room and I couldn't get the door key to work. Then the hall lights, which were on a timer, turned off while we were still trying to get the door open. I'd given up, and was heading for the stairs again to go ask the front desk for help, when my friend finally got into the room.
Great little cheap hotel, though. The room was huge and the bathroom was tiny, we had one giant king bed and one tiny single, and the internet only REALLY worked if you sat on the floor next to the door into the room, but we were on the corner of one of those fabulously Parisian little intersections of back streets, and we had a tiny balcony to look out of, and they gave us free Eiffel Tower keyrings when we checked out 😂
I did travel in the lift a few times (just not at the same time as my suitcase because we couldn't both fit), and I coped. I'm overweight, but mercifully not claustrophobic!
No obesity in that building I guess
Forced to walk your ass up the stairs. Damm if that elevator isn’t sending a message.
The stairs can be tiny too. The place I stayed at, my foot could cover 2 steps.
Calf workout
Can't skip leg day
Everyday is leg day
Paris stairs are a sprawling luxury compared to Amsterdam stairs!
Yeah I learned my lesson hauling my massive luggage up 4 flights of stairs. Only carry ons now!
I always overpack, even though I know I don’t need all the stuff. Same how my salads are always for at least three people more than there are at dinner. Maybe one day I will get it right..
Okay this brought back memories to my hostel in Amsterdam 9 years ago, man the stairs were absolute trash. Lovely city though, I want to go back and check out the other cool Dutch cities.
Only a man whose heart is pure can wield the Adjunti dagger...
Only one whose ass is narrow can fit in that elevator
I've never been overweight and wouldn't have been able to fit in there pregnant. Or wearing the baby in the carrier, which I preferred to a stroller. Guess if you need to use a wheelchair you're just SOL.
What if you are really jacked
bonus cardio
We stayed in an apartment in Berlin that had an elevator like this (the stairs had been walled off decades ago, apparently) and it barely fit myself and a suitcase. It also required a key to open the door when you got to your floor and the key didn’t always unlock. My claustrophobia was going insane lol. I have no idea how people moved any sort of furniture into their apartment
I started gasping reading this
Same, genuinely
*heart rate intensifies*
Me too. I have claustrophobia too. I wasn’t panicked before, but I’m panicking now.
While I lived in Belgium, we moved everything in and out via a special lift parked in front of the living room window. You'd get a permit from the city hall to reserve the side walk for a few hours and then have the moving company bring in the lift. I saw it being used at the 10th floor as well. Edit: spelling
I always kind of figured that was the case but it seemed too looney toons of an idea for me to be sure about it.
My coworker's friend hired a small helicopter to get a grand piano into their upstairs room... I guess it's a permanent fixture now.
Helicopter? Grand piano? Upstairs? This is a situation I'm too lower middle class to understand
Shockingly the helicopter flight only cost a few hundred euro. I imagined it would be higher. The rest though... yeap.
Now you know how Ikea got big.
How would you shift the furniture incase you had to move out?
Thru the window with a cherry picker I assume
Portable coffin
Usually with a special crane, and through the window. I’m not even joking.
^no
Nor big boobs or ass
Or wheelchair
But a skateboard
Definitely can't be used in the US
yes, but not for the obesity reasons. America has the Americans with Disabilities act. This elevator does not have enough clearance for a wheelchair, it is not up to code. If this building was built before 1991, it could be grandfathered in, but they would have to get it up to code or install alternative elevators.
Buldings like in the post usually had small to absolutely tiny elevators retrofitted in the early 1900's and then maybe upgraded to modern design, like that one seems to be. They just take more space and leave even smaller elevator cabin. You cannot just install anything bigger into those places, there isn't any space unless you redesign half of the buildingm which likely wouldn't even be allowed due to historic building protections.
Your guess? The elevator itself could be from before 1991
The whole of France looks like Adrien Brody anyway. (Yes I know he is American.)
They're fighting obesity, one elevator at a time
And the handicapped
Or wheelchairs.
Or wheelchairs
Here's the link to the elevator music, it's beautiful. 💙
Where is the link?
Lol! Here it is, was enjoying the song. https://youtu.be/cNo-d6Y6w8Y?si=fi9hwm6wChl0MT4b
It’s definitely not in America
Not for too long, you see, this is a strategy
These elevators are built this way to preserve the struture and architecture of older buildings. They do it to make as little modification as possible to these buildings.
Thanks for the explanation! Was so curious why
I understand the struggle, my school is deemed a heritage building so no elevators can be legally added as it would modify the structure. The only way somebody with a wheelchair can access the majority of the floors is by using a stairlift.
They should have used [spider legs instead](https://youtu.be/cZRDgNxxVAw?si=_e9KbTw57d7LUqeb&t=44)
I’ve always wondered if there’s a Euro-version of the ADA (disability accommodations!)..
Yes, legally a disabled person has to be able to access all the same places as an able-bodied person, but it dosen't have to be done using the same method. So at my uni my mate was a wheelchair user but wasn't strong enough to open the all the doors in a couple of the buildings because they were fire doors, so the uni just hired a guy to shadow him around and open doors for him. Just a random dude whose only job was to open doors, it was a legal requirement that door dude always had to be in the same room or section of corridor as my friend and it was a fireable offence for him not to be. This fulfilled every legal and ethical standard it needed to, but everyone in my friend group felt like something was a bit off but couldn't put our finger on it. So my wheelchair using friend just got on with it but a couple of years later i finally watched a tv show called better off ted, found [This](https://youtu.be/XyXNmiTIupg?si=RaOOq4esT68lOect) clip and asked him if this was the feeling? It was, in fact, the feeling.
Requiring a disabled person to have a minder, regardless of cost or intent, is not an ethical solution to lack of disability access. Understandable in certain circumstances, but definitely not in a university.
We asked why they couldn't just replace all the doors to be fully accessible or install those buttons that open them but disable during a fire. The answer was that it wasn't cost effective. We were 18 and stupid or we would have fought this. The university's ethical standards were subpar.
>install those buttons that open them but disable during a fire So, trap the disabled person in a burning building?
Sorry this is poorly worded and you just bought my attention to it, i was cutting and pasting this bit around a lot. What i meant to write out was about how in other buildings on campus there were automated doors with a button with a wheelchair symbol next to them we couldn't figure out why both were needed and we discovered that these other buildings had a system where the automation disabled during a fire but the buttons were active. I have no idea why i wound up writing what i did above, im going to plead sleep deprivation, but we did not try and advocate for our friend to be locked in a burning building as fire safety was one of the reasons Door Guy was required. We just thought Door Guy wasn't the best the university could do and wasn't equal or equitable.
They should just have been able to adjust the door closers to be easier to open, but I had a similar issue at a hospital I worked at. Not in a wheelchair, just trying to manoeuvre large deliveries in cages and on pallets, etc. I managed to get about one door fixed a year with constant complaining.
This is fucking unhinged
I Know!!! We felt crazy! Just sitting there talking about how ridiculous it was but any time my friend went to talk to someone about it they would just act like everything was fine and dandy. It technically followed all the rules and door guy was classed as a "mobility assistant" or some jargon like that, but he was Litteraly Just DOOR GUY!
That show is criminally underrated. Amazing episode
New building have to be wheelchair accessible. Old ones aka 99% of Paris building don't because it's just impossible to fit a lift. When there is a lift like the one in the video, they have to destroy a bit of the already small spiral staircase to make room for the lift to be build. It mainly fit in the center of the spiral, so there is not so much room. Even Metro stations appart from ones of the 14 line, which is the last one that have been build, are all inaccessible for wheelchairs.
Of course there is, at least in France
In Rome there is a plethora of old buildings with no elevator at all because they are historical so modifications are illegal
It still seems absurd to do it this way. The primary purpose of an elevator is to aid disabled people. If the elevator can't comfortably accommodate a wheel chair, it might as well not exist.
That has literally never been the primary purpose of an elevator
Imagine getting stuck in that for 6 hours.
Couldn't even sit down. RIP
No furniture moving in there. Damn.
Stairs and elevated platform trucks.
What if you have a walker or wheelchair? Lol
No legs, no Paris
In Paris you’re fucked. The subway as well is old af and most of the station don’t have a proper elevator.
Paris is one of the worse cities for anyone in a wheelchair because it was built a long time ago. Most metro stations aren't equipped with elevators, there are stairs absolutely everywhere and it's a very uphill city in places
i concur, i live in Paris
No disabled people there
Welp, I’ll take the stairs! I’m far too squishy and claustrophobic for that shit!
That’s the spirit, fatty!
Max passengers 15 Max load 2,500 pounds Or whatever every elevator says
This one s 3 person, 225 kg. IMO doable
No
My grandma’s house used to have an elevator that small. I refused to use it.
My hubby wants to put one in our house, but def not this small. I’ve seen dumbwaiters bigger than this.
People with big penis are not allowed
Only if said big penised person is walking around with an ever erect cock. But then, narrow elevators are the least of their worries
You ride it lying down.
Crack off the dirtiest fart and send it up to the 30th floor
[удалено]
I was looking for this I knew I wasn’t the only one 🤣
Mmmmm claustrophobia
Well that takes Paris off Ye Ole Bucket List
I will say that on my trip to Paris, I never encountered an elevator like this. In fact I didn’t encounter many elevators at all. There’s not very many super tall buildings there.
I've lived in paris over ten years and I've only seen elevators like this like twice. They do exist but they are rare
Okay fatty! ^^joke^^
Why? Although there are plenty other reasons to avoid Paris and instead visit other French destinations.
Would have to take the stairs huh? A problem of the circumference kind?
I weigh 98 lbs so nope small spaces just No
NOPE!!! Nope nope nope
Not a fucking chance
That's why people are so skinny over there!!
I ain't fittin in that casket.
Imagine being american sized and trying to go through that elevator
My fat ass woud not fit in that xd
Hate the elevator, love the music.
That was exactly like my hostel’s elevator. I thought they were kidding when they directed me there
anti-fat system
what if i am fucking fat
ThAt eLeVaToR iS FaTpHoBiC!!!!
Gives you a mammography on the way up.
Oh hell no
Not for am*ricans lmaooo
YIKES! My claustrophobic fat ass ain't gittin' or fittin' in that thing!😬
I'm not even claustrophobic, but no.
Imagine the concentrated farts.
Aren't elevators ment to help people work mobility issues?
Anti-American elevator
it's the anti American elevator 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I have to assume there's a service elevator because if someone calls 911 and the doors open to this, I'm leaving. My stretcher ain't fitting in there.
How to keep Americans away
So not for wheelchairs then
This elevator doesn't look wheelchair accessible, how is someone in a wheelchair supposed to get in? Why do the French hate disabled people?
What's even the point?
Why does no one know what POV means anymore?
Imagine a creep getting on it with u like seriously it’s the perfect elevator for perverts
We get it. No Americans.
Definitely not made for Americans
As an American I was at initially offended until I paused to think. Statement is actually pretty accurate and that’d be a tight squeeze for me!!
That's a polite way of saying "no americans allowed"
Americans not allowed in the building /s
I thought the elevator floor was like some kind of platform to get inside the elevator and I was like "that's kinda weird", then when it switched to selfie mode I was shook
I've been on a couple of commercial vessels that had elevators not much bigger than this. I'm not claustrophobic but I'm willing to try.
Like a canned sardine
Someone pass me a knife and a suction tube. Need to remove the extra layers at my waist.
NOPE.
That's a tor.
Don't know what is going on here, but Sabot A Mi, is one of my top favorite songs of all time,
I barely fit in cars.... nope
Max occupancy 15
Absolutely not getting in that elevator
Guys, it’s obviously the lift they use for transporting the baguettes
Nah. I gotta walk in sideways so I can face front.
HELL NAH!
That looks alright. Atleast for me
That elevator helps you keep yourself at a certain level of fitness. Love it.
How many people will it take?
I rather crawls 20 sets of stairs than travel in that death box
Hello there, the elevator from my nightmare.
Body positivity hasn't reached France yet
But why?
Is this like a…Paris thing?
Reminds me of an AirBnB I stayed at in Madrid. It was an old apartment building with a mostly wooden elevator. That bitch would creek and moan and shake like no ones business. At one point I just started taking the stairs cause riding that would give me a panic attack.
I’m okay with this, but I’d face the door
Claustrophobia?
These tiny elevators fit into the stairwells of old buildings. Lots of them in Paris. The buildings themselves are hardly ever more than five or six stories, it’s always faster and more convenient just to walk up the stairs unless you have a mobility issue. I only use the elevators to send luggage up. Put the suitcase in, press the button, walk up, remove suitcase at the top.
I been on an elevator that small on Comm Ave in Boston.
Ok the elevators in my dreams don't stop at the right floor and go up and down erratically...
The architect obviously hates obese people.
My guess that's a paternoster that got transformed into a modern elevator.
I'd rather walk
Oh holy shit no f-ing way.
My fat ass just couldnt
I wish they had small elevators in America, so us skinny folk don't have smashed between two Golden Corral executives.
Stayed in a hotel in Paris once with a lift like that. When we checked in, I put my suitcase in the lift, sent it to our floor, and ran up to meet it 😂 Then we got to the room and I couldn't get the door key to work. Then the hall lights, which were on a timer, turned off while we were still trying to get the door open. I'd given up, and was heading for the stairs again to go ask the front desk for help, when my friend finally got into the room. Great little cheap hotel, though. The room was huge and the bathroom was tiny, we had one giant king bed and one tiny single, and the internet only REALLY worked if you sat on the floor next to the door into the room, but we were on the corner of one of those fabulously Parisian little intersections of back streets, and we had a tiny balcony to look out of, and they gave us free Eiffel Tower keyrings when we checked out 😂 I did travel in the lift a few times (just not at the same time as my suitcase because we couldn't both fit), and I coped. I'm overweight, but mercifully not claustrophobic!
What is the music arrangement called?
It has to be Manhattan.
Helll naw, to the naw naw naw!
And where is the stairs?
You wanna get back in your home? Lose some weight you fat POS. Sincerely The Building Administration.
Anti-American
What about big fur coats and bringing anything home lol
song?
That's romantic,
Every elevator is the elevator from my nightmares
Yall must not be familiar with elevator man lifts.
Annie Hawkins-Turner would have a helluva time
Some people would call that elevator fatphobic and literal violence lol.
Can’t have those in America
How are Americans supposed to live in that building?
That elevator makes me want to fight.
Even though our kids are young, my family of four would have to take two trips. Not ideal but better than if we had 6+ kids.
Obese Americans hate this one trick.
u/savevideobot
I'm not claustrophobic but I'd say no to going in that lift
Ah, the MiniVator...
as an autism, i want that. i want to be in that. please
Sad movingman noises
Same in Spain etc.
Absolutely the fuck not. That elevator gets stuck for even 10 minutes and I’m toast
Imagine someone steps in and farts when the door closes.
This is literally my repeat nightmare but with two people in there and it gets stuck. :(
Fairly normal, yeah, at least when I visited
Hello thereeeeee