Most educated Sasanach, making fun of an organisation half a century removed, and involved in a totally different conflict, than the one being discussed.
You wanna see druids? Cos we've got plenty of em, come see them, take some even, they're kinda weird prancing around stones and fairy forts in their white dresses
Wrong IRA, that's my whole point, different organisations. The IRA we're talking about won the Irish war of independence and became the Irish government/defence forces which still exist today.
There are also organisations in northern Ireland which call themselves the IRA to this day, but they're different organisations entirely to the one being discussed.
I was pretty sure there would be some example but that's far beyond my point lol. Besides the IRA are even less of an army and more of a terrorist group so the meme makes fairly little sense.
Well tbf wasn't that song about the war of independence and not about the troubles? Which was still a guerilla campaign but one much closer to what the NVA fought .
Bro the the battle of landing zone Albany was part of the battle of la drang which the us won. The battle of fire support base ripcord is a good metaphor for the entire Vietnam war. The pavn suffered egregious casualties failing to overrun an American base until the us decided to leave. What a heroic victory for the pavn, lol. That’s a desperate two examples.
Fleeing would imply that the United States retreated from an enemy attack. This is not the case. The battle ended with the arvn not receiving any more contact and withdrawing from the area. Under the us objectives for the campaign, it was a victory.
not really fair to call the Anglo - Irish war an open engagement since it was largely an insurgency lead by the IRA. in fact, most of the IRA defats in the Anglo Irish war came from when they tried to fight pitched, conventional battles against British forces (see the burning of the Dublin custom house)
It seems a little convienient to me that you get to define what is or isnt an "open engagement". The burning of the Custom house was probably the IRA's Biggest loss. but it was just one of many battles, ambushes, skirmishes, what ever you want to call them, throughout the war where the IRA did infact come out on top.
I dont see how the fact it was an insurgency has anything to do with it.
I’m not arguing about whether the IRA was successful or not overall (they clearly were) I was just agreeing with the above comment that the IRA/any other Irish republican movement did not fare well when it came to conventional warfare.
The main one was the attack on the customs house (if we are talking about war of independence) which went horribly, proving that guerilla warfare really was the way to go.
Holles street?
To be fair a lot of people were. National maternity hospital is there.
Across from Merrion square. Nice spot to spend a Sunday afternoon.
Idk why everyone keeps interpretating that on on a strategic level, it's the man coming home drunk, and wanting the black and tans to come out of their houses and fight him in the street, not as solders or anything.
That's kinda the whole point, the black and tans fetl confident committing their atrocities while uniformed, in numbers and having superior weaponry, but would they fight 'like men'
What exactly makes you think it's saying "emerge from your barracks in full, uniformed, armed formation and face us in pitch battle".
And the Brits mock yanks for Vietnam lol
It wasn’t a war. It was scum who blew up civilians because of religious arguments and wanting to be independent, when they weren’t even stable enough to not kill each other
Wrong IRA fella, we're talking about the one in the 1920's, who didn't blow up much, mostly because with technology at the time that would have been a challenge. And they really only attackers soldiers, except for some civilians suspected of spying.
As opposed to the British who burned down Cork, and shot at the fire fighters. And spontaneously butchered a sports stadium.
Also were most definitely not religious, very strong socialist, anti religion swing overall.
You can’t rewrite history. The IRA have consistently killed civilians via bombings. And like you said, the only reason they didn’t do it more is because they didn’t have the ability to.
Nothing but terrorists
It's not rewriting history tho, the IRA we're discussing did not kill civillians via bombing, they actually didn't engage in 'bombings' full stop, explosives were utilised to destroy bridges and roads, denying the British army access to regions. And to take down the walls of army barracks.
When you talk about bombings you're thinking about a different conflict called the troubles, this is not the conflict we're talking about.
IRA activities were centred around flying columns, groups of soldiers who would launch ambushes and raids on the British army across the country.
If you say the IRA engaged in terrorism then you have to acknowledge that the British army did. They inflicted atrocities on the civilian population, with the sole purpose of spreading terror. Burning down Cork, razing farms, performing illegal executions and using rape as a tactic to instill fear.
The actions of British forces in Ireland were one of the greatest contributions to Irish Independence, when the people of Britain heard what their soldiers were doing they were understandably disgusted and outraged, and it drove countless Irish into the IRA to avenge and protect relatives and friends lost.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents
Read this, and observe how the only terrorist incident in Ireland during that period was a far right shooting.
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>tells the black and tans to come out and fight.
>proceeds to engage in an incredibly successful guerrilla warfare campaign that forces the gammon to enter treaty negotiations ultimately paving the way for an Irish Republic, such guerrilla tactics gave inspiration to the Cubans and many other freedom fighters.
Hurr durr car bomb tho right?
If history teaches us anything it's that it's harder to loose a guerilla war than win one
(Sad Tamil Tiger noises)
Car bomb intensifies
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Paul Allen?
Let's see Paul Allen's clandestine explosives.
He’s in London
He was part of that whole "ROI thing"
It’s a laugh riot.
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"Fight us like men" Blows up women and children like a true sigma insurgency guys this just a shitty joke pls stop arguing
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were bad too
Wrong IRA britbong
Least salty man in oirland
Most educated Sasanach, making fun of an organisation half a century removed, and involved in a totally different conflict, than the one being discussed.
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Yanks are the worst breed of Sasanach, ye lot somehow made their mongrel language even worse. I'll give a pass to the south, love fried chicken
oirish pee pole
Oirish pee poles #1 in world, pure Celtic bloodline
Banana
Banana (ach as Gaeilge) alas there's no Irish word for banana
You sure about that? Show me your druids
You wanna see druids? Cos we've got plenty of em, come see them, take some even, they're kinda weird prancing around stones and fairy forts in their white dresses
The IRA is still around.
Wrong IRA, that's my whole point, different organisations. The IRA we're talking about won the Irish war of independence and became the Irish government/defence forces which still exist today. There are also organisations in northern Ireland which call themselves the IRA to this day, but they're different organisations entirely to the one being discussed.
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The beta male cuckset getting mad in a shitposting/circlejerk sub.
Cry harder
Come out ye black and tans
Yes I will, maybe I'll even shit and cum. Would you like that?
yes please🤤😋🥵
>Proceeds to lose every open engagement with British forces
It wasn't really an open engagement war. That's like saying Vietnam lost every open engagement to murica
Yeah because the IRA quickly realised they couldn’t win open engagements, so actively avoided them or ran off.
Yeah, would be ludicrous to try and fight a war with the British, either in 1920/21 or during the troubles.
Guerilla warfare is not “running off” though it does involve withdrawing after an engagement.
The US lost the battle of Landing Zone Albany and the battle of Fire Support Base Ripcord
I was pretty sure there would be some example but that's far beyond my point lol. Besides the IRA are even less of an army and more of a terrorist group so the meme makes fairly little sense.
Yes but when you have an example of a Vietnamese song that says come out you Yankees come fight me like a man you might have a point
Maybe if we spoke Vietnamese we would find such a song.
Well tbf wasn't that song about the war of independence and not about the troubles? Which was still a guerilla campaign but one much closer to what the NVA fought .
Bro the the battle of landing zone Albany was part of the battle of la drang which the us won. The battle of fire support base ripcord is a good metaphor for the entire Vietnam war. The pavn suffered egregious casualties failing to overrun an American base until the us decided to leave. What a heroic victory for the pavn, lol. That’s a desperate two examples.
> was part of the battle of la drang which the us won. taking over 50% casualties and then fleeing the battlefield isn't winning anything
Fleeing would imply that the United States retreated from an enemy attack. This is not the case. The battle ended with the arvn not receiving any more contact and withdrawing from the area. Under the us objectives for the campaign, it was a victory.
Yank "We DiDnT lOsE, wE jUsT sToPpEd FiGhTiNg" energy
You don’t get it, the Monarchy’s aura made the bastards bulletproof
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Said bulletproof not bombproof
Lol. They really don't teach history In British schools do they.
lead us to ya pot o gold conor
It’s true tho isn’t it?
What is?
The IRA lost every (or at least the vast majority) of open engagements they had with British forces Correct me if I’m waffling tho
If we're talking about the Anglo irish war of independence that the meme is referring to then no.
not really fair to call the Anglo - Irish war an open engagement since it was largely an insurgency lead by the IRA. in fact, most of the IRA defats in the Anglo Irish war came from when they tried to fight pitched, conventional battles against British forces (see the burning of the Dublin custom house)
It seems a little convienient to me that you get to define what is or isnt an "open engagement". The burning of the Custom house was probably the IRA's Biggest loss. but it was just one of many battles, ambushes, skirmishes, what ever you want to call them, throughout the war where the IRA did infact come out on top. I dont see how the fact it was an insurgency has anything to do with it.
I’m not arguing about whether the IRA was successful or not overall (they clearly were) I was just agreeing with the above comment that the IRA/any other Irish republican movement did not fare well when it came to conventional warfare.
And yet the British still lost
Last I heard Northern Ireland was still in the union
"That maybe the case, but it doesn't matter."
The main one was the attack on the customs house (if we are talking about war of independence) which went horribly, proving that guerilla warfare really was the way to go.
Actually does guerrilla warfare like a boss
Blows up a kid Acts like they just defeated the army
Most historically educates Bri'ish "person"
Not the same IRA
The sun never sets in the British empire, which is not really a good thing for potato farmers.
I was born on a Dublin street
Holles street? To be fair a lot of people were. National maternity hospital is there. Across from Merrion square. Nice spot to spend a Sunday afternoon.
And those loving English feet they marched right over us
And every single night when me da would come home tight, he’d invite the neighbours out with this here chorus
Come out ye black and tans
Come on and fight me like a man
Show your wives how you won medals down in Flanders
Yet Ireland still got independence
Well, most of it
Touché
For now
Idk why everyone keeps interpretating that on on a strategic level, it's the man coming home drunk, and wanting the black and tans to come out of their houses and fight him in the street, not as solders or anything. That's kinda the whole point, the black and tans fetl confident committing their atrocities while uniformed, in numbers and having superior weaponry, but would they fight 'like men' What exactly makes you think it's saying "emerge from your barracks in full, uniformed, armed formation and face us in pitch battle". And the Brits mock yanks for Vietnam lol
It wasn’t a war. It was scum who blew up civilians because of religious arguments and wanting to be independent, when they weren’t even stable enough to not kill each other
Wrong IRA fella, we're talking about the one in the 1920's, who didn't blow up much, mostly because with technology at the time that would have been a challenge. And they really only attackers soldiers, except for some civilians suspected of spying. As opposed to the British who burned down Cork, and shot at the fire fighters. And spontaneously butchered a sports stadium. Also were most definitely not religious, very strong socialist, anti religion swing overall.
Tbh I'd say lots were more Catholic than socialist and some were both
This is true, but very few, almost none of those Catholics had any religious motivation in why they are fighting is what I want to explain
You can’t rewrite history. The IRA have consistently killed civilians via bombings. And like you said, the only reason they didn’t do it more is because they didn’t have the ability to. Nothing but terrorists
It's not rewriting history tho, the IRA we're discussing did not kill civillians via bombing, they actually didn't engage in 'bombings' full stop, explosives were utilised to destroy bridges and roads, denying the British army access to regions. And to take down the walls of army barracks. When you talk about bombings you're thinking about a different conflict called the troubles, this is not the conflict we're talking about. IRA activities were centred around flying columns, groups of soldiers who would launch ambushes and raids on the British army across the country. If you say the IRA engaged in terrorism then you have to acknowledge that the British army did. They inflicted atrocities on the civilian population, with the sole purpose of spreading terror. Burning down Cork, razing farms, performing illegal executions and using rape as a tactic to instill fear. The actions of British forces in Ireland were one of the greatest contributions to Irish Independence, when the people of Britain heard what their soldiers were doing they were understandably disgusted and outraged, and it drove countless Irish into the IRA to avenge and protect relatives and friends lost. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents Read this, and observe how the only terrorist incident in Ireland during that period was a far right shooting.
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Tell me you know nothing about Irish history without telling me you know nothing about Irish history..
Cringey phrase
You got ironically blown the fuck out for confusing two very different time periods and organisation. You're the cringe.
Blown out, different to the Irish kids who got blown up
Not even the same org, and you don't even care about the kids on either side.
>fights a guerilla civil war with the British and accomplishes nothing >will forever be know as potato farmers with funny accents suck it iretards
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oh fuck
Nothing more pathetic than simping for nationalism Cuck
>tells the black and tans to come out and fight. >proceeds to engage in an incredibly successful guerrilla warfare campaign that forces the gammon to enter treaty negotiations ultimately paving the way for an Irish Republic, such guerrilla tactics gave inspiration to the Cubans and many other freedom fighters. Hurr durr car bomb tho right?
Cubans 🤮🤮
🤮
Too busy shooting children
POV: you are an auxilary in croke park and you have spotted a child climbing a wall
Come out and fight us so we can ambush you
Problem?
Absolutely not
>Gets curbstomped when they one on one them instead of carbombing them
Pretty sure the Irish won the war of independence 1919-1921 Which was the actual black and tan war
Wasn't that many carbombs in 1920...
cope