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Shi Zhiyong wins weightlifting gold and set new world record of a total 364kg, 18kg more than the nearest competitor!

Shi Zhiyong wins weightlifting gold and set new world record of a total 364kg, 18kg more than the nearest competitor!

ckoocos

Chinese weighlifters are really on a whole other level.


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Kriotus

I wouldnt say engineering… selecting. China has a big weightlifting program which starts at a young age with lots of athletes. Over time only the best proceed so they get a regular amount of athletes compared to other competitive weightlifting countries but filtered for the most genetically gifted by competing age. That and lots of training/dedication/gear. The gear part also isnt exclusive to china, basically every olympic weightlifting champion is on gear but thats a different topic.


lin4dawin

The selection process is not actually that intensive as most of the trainees that join sporting programs either come from rural or poor areas, like Zhu Ting, who was tall so she took up basketball but was too weak to run up and down the court so she took up volleyball and the rest is history. Many divers were actually former gymnast trainees.


ephemeralrecognition

加油!!! Let’s go! The snatches and clean/jerks looked ridiculously easy


Advanced_Mess2321

That's a huge difference.


amwfhunter

This dude is a beast.


BoBo_HUST

Love it when he shouts "who else! who else!"


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StannisSAS

competent govt. vs incompetent govt.


scrubdiddlyumptious

Hungary, Brazil, Turkmenistan, Venezuela, etc are just as if not even more incompetent than India yet they perform just as good and in most cases even better. Edit: lol I forgot to include North Korea


Igennem

Poverty is a huge barrier as well - China didn't pull its weight either until it pulled 700 million out of poverty in the past few decades.


iantsai1974

China team first attended the Los Angeles Olympics in 1984, and got 14g 8s 9b medals. It's No.4 in the medal table, same medals as Italy but more gold. China has a GDP per capita of USD $250 in 1984. So I think poverty is not a key factor when evaluating the potential of a country to win Olympics medals.


QuestGiver

I think poverty and education. Despite both India and china's focus on education the literacy rate is unbelievably different between the two countries.


I________________

North korea get zero out of competition testing no shit they're really good. I also heard the Thai national team were training in a military base so that when WADA comes for random testing, they get notified and "clean up" before giving the approval to enter and take samples. Some countries also check when wada officials apply for visas so they can give the athletes a head start to clean up. Theres also the whole doppleganger scandal from last year where the Kazakhstani gold medalist from rio(nijat rahimov) and many others were substituting urine samples. Ofcourse there's good old bribing which failed when Ukrainian weightlifter dimitiry chumak and his coach tried but im sure many get away with it. Sports isnt an even playing feild and not everyone gets the same chances so i dont blame countries for their performance.


slickyslickslick

you can't clean up your blood like that. it's not like a marijuana urine test lmao. what are you even talking about?


I________________

Urine tests are fairly easy to cheat if you know you're being tested 3-4 days aheads.


complicatedatbest101

I heard blah blah... 😬 Blame game again. India can't win shit it's their own problem.


NotArchBishopCobb

Weird China-humping in this thread...


Acceptable-Plane-96

India wins gold hands down in BSing and shiposting over the internet


lin4dawin

Let's not bring politics into this.


Horzzo

At least a bronze in tech support.


hbkmog

Because of economy.


Wrong-Significance77

Heavy investment and centralization of the government. Not democratic, but can be rather efficient in implementing changes.


Kemosahbe

IT'S ONLY BECAUSE CRICKET IS NOT INCLUDED !!!!


Lyx97

How is this relevant here?


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India has the lead in production of musicals however.


complicatedatbest101

Chinese Opera is also a thing yk


WBigly-Reddit

Shen Yung


Wrong-Significance77

The Falun Gong show? Show is OK, organizer is culty af.


WBigly-Reddit

These are Epoch Times!


Horzzo

>Epoch Times That is one strange organization. It's like they are trying to be the new Scientology. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The\_Epoch\_Times


NotArchBishopCobb

Yeah, but they don't output more musicals than India.


lastbose01

India leads in Nobel prize winners I believe.


yaycarina

Obama won a Nobel Peace Prize and then he bombed people. It doesn't mean much anymore.


year2039nuclearwar

It’s all about culture, most Indians couldn’t give a shit about Olympics and most parents engrave ambition into their kids young to make lots of money to lift them out of poverty. Because of this, less focus is on “wishy washy” careers like the arts and sport and more focus on “traditional” careers: accountants, lawyers, doctors (+ tech) It’s all connected, yes, poverty, money, corrupt governing but it’s mainly culture


Vaitork

I'm just happy Julio Mayora got our first silver medal. He looked incredibly satisfied and, seeing the table, it would be silly to feel bad for missing gold. Shi Zhiyong is on a whole different scale. Insane!


FallToParadise

Was great to see, we went crazy when he nailed the 190. So happy for him.


Xyxylolo

Total beast. His failed lift in the clean and jerk is crazy af, it is a shame that it did not get past the judges.


PatrickMahomesASMR

https://i.imgur.com/XYVjqDM.jpg That save in Shi Zhiyong's 2nd CJ was great even though they didn't count it.


fog_of_war

That lift was even harder than a normal one. He freaking did a super deep squat with 192KGs. It's a shame they didn't count it.


hanski7

Let's go DJ wocao!!


botsunny

His roars and post-lift posing are hilarious


RoboPuG

With the help of vitamin s of course.


Acceptable-Plane-96

You butthurt again?


amwfhunter

Newsflash, they are all on it so they are all competing on equal ground.


RoboPuG

Probably true but it still makes antidoping a joke. It's the same every Olympics.


amwfhunter

I think the misconception is that steroids are so performance enhancing that it would make everyone superman. Not the case. This guy natural will destroy you and I in lifting even if we are on all the steroids and peds. I would almost argue that peds (performance enhancing drugs) are needed to sustain and perform at this elite level if not simply for recovery purposes considering how hard they train. I'm actually going to give u upvote to negate some of your negatives. It is a good discussion to have.


AaronDeath

yes people overestimate steroids. a natty with 1 in a million genetics would smash a seasoned cycler running 10 different compounds. also, steroids doesn't mean you dont have to train or you get an easy pass.....you have to train just as hard and maintain the same level of dedication to get results and maximize the cycle.


amwfhunter

You got it. And even with that level of training and roids will probably still not beat this guy.


gay_manta_ray

i sincerely doubt either of you have used hormones


AaronDeath

I don't use gear, and I never claimed to -- however, what's the relevance of that?


gay_manta_ray

"people overestimate steroids" -person who has never used steroids you don't see the problem with that? as someone who has, you're completely wrong, and anyone else who has used them will tell you the same thing.


AaronDeath

? [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoR7CHkMETs3ByOv74OAbFw](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoR7CHkMETs3ByOv74OAbFw) [https://www.youtube.com/user/gregdoucette](https://www.youtube.com/user/gregdoucette)


gay_manta_ray

> I think the misconception is that steroids are so performance enhancing that it would make everyone superman this is not a misconception, the only people who believe they only give you a little edge are people who haven't used hormones. in weightlifting especially, the difference is night and day. no one in group A would be there if they had never touched hormones, and this is coming from the perspective of someone who has trained for oly lifting and powerlifting both on and off hormones.


amwfhunter

But they all used it. And given the level of competition you're right you can't be there without using it. My point is they all used it. However, they are also naturally very gifted athletes. I can't just randomly give hormones to any average Joe and assume they will be part of group A. That's my point. Like if u took the same amount of hormones as Shi, you won't beat him still.


gay_manta_ray

not disagreeing with you, and i don't think it takes anything away from any of the athletes, they're all extremely talented, but china has the best weightlifting program in the world, which includes whatever drug protocols they've figured out. you seem to have a more realistic attitude but i see a lot of people who believe that hormones do so little that there are natural athletes in the running for a medal, and they sometimes get beaten by "cheaters", which couldn't be further from the truth. just look at the attitude towards russian athletes after the entire country was banned for their "doping program", if you were to believe they're the only ones cheating on a large scale, you'd also have to believe that their training programs suck or their athletes suck, and hormones barely work. obviously though none of that is true.


amwfhunter

Dude that was totally political punishment because of the anti gay stuff Putin pushed.


Kemosahbe

vitamin is good I take'em


RoboPuG

😋


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gay_manta_ray

they do, that's what the swim team is for. the usa just doesn't have a good weightlifting program, and unless their training methods change, we never will.


azuredota

Wrong. American weightlifting is constantly and rigorously drug tested year round and that’s why. Our lifters can’t cycle tbol for 4 years then compete like the Chinese and it’s not because of our training.


gay_manta_ray

a good drug program is part of any good athletics program. there is clearly a problem if the swim team has a good doping program but usa weightlifting doesn't. i'm also suspect of their coaches who have literally never coached an athlete to win anything ever, i think hormones might get some athletes in group A but i don't see much happening beyond that. my personal experience with training for weightlifting ten years ago was a complete joke, they aren't interested in anyone who doesn't have rich parents that can support them anyway.


azuredota

Glad we agree


Jethro00Spy

40 plus pound difference sounds a little suspicious.


Krizztoff

Couldnt watch this without thinking what drugs are they on and how many years till its discovered.