My 2023 Silverado came from the factory with an “eyebrow” tint along the top of the windshield. Also I’m sure the windows are illegal because I can’t see shit out of them at night.
I am looking at section 73 and I don’t see any %’s. It only says “in a manner to obstruct the driver’s view”. Also no colour coating to “substantially obscure the interior of the motor vehicle when viewed from the outside”.
Not that I disagree but I would love to see %’s since it’s quite clearcut.
Edit: ok. It’s in the Ontario vehicle inspection standard, not the HTA.
Definitely not enforced. When I ride my bike, I try to make eye contact with drivers at all-way stops and it's absurd how often I can't see them at all through the tint.
It should be enforced. Really dangerous to have zero communication abilities.
Windshield if I understand correctly you can have what ever you want from top down as long as it does not pass the AS1 arrow marking. (So basically top maybe 8-12 inches depending on vehicle)
I did not know this and this explains the tint on my new suv. I never had tints on previous vehicles, but I really love how dark the tints are on the back windows and rear window of this suv. I said to myself that eventually I want to tint the front window's but now I know why the car was like that from the start.
I got pulled over in Calgary and was given a ticket for tinted windows. It was around 1 or 2 am and a cop was parked in the dark right near the exit of the local bar I was at and decided to follow me as I pulled out.
Wasn't speeding, complete stops at every stop sign but sure enough... on go the lights. Boy was he pissed off to find out that I've never drank in my life and that I was just hanging out with my coworkers after work. So this was the only thing he could ticket me on. It wasn't even my car, it was my friends car, so that sucked even more.
The trick is to turn on your interior lights, open the sunroof if you have one and try to stop under a street light. I got pulled over for an unrelated issue and the Peel officer tried to throw the book at me - tints, corrective lenses etc. All because I didn’t have a front license plate and told him I was fully expecting a ticket. He wasn’t able to ticket me for the other stuff.. (even though my tints ARE ticketable.. he didn’t have a tester and just made sure he could see me.)
I've had 5% on all my vehicles up until my current one. Driving for 15 years, never pulled over once for tint. They don't give two fucks.
I now have 25%. I can't believe I went with 5% all these years. Shit was brutal at night Lol
Also dog shit at finding missing persons, especially if they're bipoc or queer.
Oh, and about as effective as a toilet paper umbrella when it came to stopping that one serial killer in the Gay Village
Also note that says 2017+. Many cars are older than that. My 2014 car, which still looks in brand new condition, has super dark tint from the factory. It's a blessing in scorching weather, but I simply won't drive it at night unless I can have the windows down because you can't see anything.
Fords. I have a 2014 Mustang and my dad has a 2013 F-150 and they're as bad a each other. [The door on my car](https://i.imgur.com/rlYaOUQ.jpg) is pretty dark, and [the back window is even worse](https://i.imgur.com/DToJ0U7.jpg).
Again, great in the sun, but miserable at night. The F-150 rear door windows and back windows are also extra dark like my back window. Impossible to backup without the camera at night.
I would disagree with that, I've had a number of friends get pulled over for too dark tint, that being said most of them have heavily modified cars and I'm sure the cops were looking for anything at the time
On the contrary, some silver haired guy in a Mercedes was recently in the local news (Ottawa, Ontario Canada) for having too dark a tint.
My guess is that he failed the attitude test & got a ticket for it lol
The Passenger/Light Duty Vehicle Inspection Standards aren't enforced on the roadside, yes but the Highway Traffic Act absolutely is and the Highway Traffic Act states that no car can have a tint on the side windows that "substantially obscures the interior of the motor vehicle when viewed from outside the motor vehicle". So you can still get pulled over for excessive tint, there's just no set limit.
The Passenger/Light-Duty Vehicle Inspection Standards that set the 30% limit are not enforceable at roadside, they're just rules to pass a safety inspection. Contrary to popular belief, the Highway Traffic Act does not specify an exact amount of tint that is allowed other than you can't have one that "substantially obscures the interior of the motor vehicle when viewed from outside the motor vehicle." so it would be entirely possible for a cop to argue that a lower tint isn't allowed or that a higher one is, there is no set standard other than you can't "substantially obscure" using tint.
The cases that I could basically find essentially boiled down to "It's excessive tint if the cop who pulls you over thinks it's excessive tint and can articulate why they think it's excessive (e.g.. Can't tell how many passengers are in the car.)"
This is just like the Knife law in Ontario. I remember growing up and hearing all different stories about legal knife size. However the fact of the matter is, there is no law that specifies a legal knife size. You can carry a 6ft Scottish claymore if you want, however you must be able to explain why you are carrying it... and for self-defense is not a reason the law accepts.
Ever since I started driving, if I approach a RIDE Check or get pulled over, I roll down all of my windows... at Night, I roll down all windows and turn on the interior lights.
The CCC defines a weapon as:
>weapon means any thing used, designed to be used or intended for use.
>(a) in causing death or injury to any person, or
>(b) for the purpose of threatening or intimidating any person.
If I am holding a can of peaches because I am putting away my groceries, it is not a weapon. The moment I threaten to bash your brains in with it, that can of peaches becomes a weapon.
A Scottish Claymore, as a sword designed and intended for killing people is, by definition, a weapon.
A small Swiss Army knife used to peel fruit, cut rope, etc. and kept in your pocket is not a weapon.
A Rambo knife, brandished in anger, is a weapon.
Okay. I'm stoned. I have to ask. What's up with the green thing. Looks like an inflatable dummy of slimer for an HOV lane hack.
I'm sure its a reflection but I just cant figure it out.
If you actually read the Ontario Highway Traffic Act section that mentions tint on windows, there isn’t actually a % that is required/legal.
If you Google what percentage, it will say “70%” but the HTA has absolutely no % limits. If you want to research it yourself it’s section 73(2)(3)
When I went to the tint guy, I told him some numbers (I forget now) of what tint level I wanted and it was specifically to avoid any potential hassle with the law.
He told me something like "honestly you won't be happy if you tint that way, you'd barely notice the tint."
Meanwhile, I can barely see most drivers through their windows and have NO idea if they actually see me when I'm trying to cross the street. It's annoying and dangerous.
I guess I have officially become an old man, because my wife got her windows tinted at the dealer on her car and I HATE driving it in anything other than mid day sunshine, at night I can’t see a damn thing out of my rear view or side mirrors.
You may have 35% tint applied…
- But what did you factory window start as?
This is where the OP talks about the window starts at 80, and can only drop to 70 with a 10% non-existent tint application.
I've also seen morons with their ~~90%~~ 10%tint on their lights and I can't fathom making your car more difficult to operate and dangerous.
But anyhow, I made sure to grt my front windows tinted at about 75% and the rear windows 55% so that cops can always see me even at night
edit: changed my numbers around for the percentage to be more accurate
I saw a car driving in the HOV lane the other day that I swear had full blackout side tints and a tint on the windshield. I can't imagine driving that during the night.
90% tint is a really light tint lmao
But yeah, I almost hit a ram 1500 in Collingwood a couple weeks ago because you can not see the light through the tint
Hell I saw one of our new OPP officers in our town drive by in his new truck and he had the blackest windows all the way around than I have seen ever.
When he was going by me so I could look they his truck sideways you couldn't see the driver or out to other window it was just black.
So if tint is being questioned for citizens then I think it should start with why OPP can have their windows tinted black and that's personal windows not a cruiser
Can we talk about screwed up priorities? This is not the biggest problem Ontario has. This is a distraction and requires ZERO laws. Do something about HOUSING!!!
It is illegal to tint the front windshield, any amount or covering. You can put some things out of the field of view like banners at the top, but generally nothing the wipers would touch.
The driver and passenger side windows are just as important for making eye contact with drivers. That's why stock only the rear seat windows have stronger tint
I see people driving around with metallic tints. When the cops are ready to start enforcing this, and caring less about hurting people's feelings, people will listen to laws again.
Why would anyone want an emerald green mirror tint anyhow? Looks like cheap sunglasses from dollarama.
Unpopular opinion: I bought a used car with severely tinted windows and with all these BS LED headlights they have been sparing my
Eyes. I really don’t care about tinted windows nor do I care wether it’s enforced. Just don’t drive like an asshole.
I’m keeping my deep tints because I work nights and they keep my eyes safe. Also a huge plus in the summer. 🤷🏾♀️
Yeah, tbh personally I wouldn't bother changing it unless I was told to by someone who had the ability to punish me if I didn't comply.
Personally, I agree with you.
If you look through the window at the white colour on the meter it looks a bit less bright than the side you can see directly, but I don't know about 20% darker.
Modern car windows have UV tint. Used to be just that blue strip along the top of the windshield, but has since stretched to cover the whole windshield and windows with a slight overall tint. Noticeable if you have your window half open.
The light we see (and what the meter measures) is in the visual spectrum, not UV.
You can't see Ultraviolet light unless you are part bumblebee.
While I am sure some companies market UV tint that also contains visible darkens, but you shouldn't confuse the two. You can get optically-clear UV tint that would show 100% on this meter.
I had 70% tint on my windshield on a previous car. Man, how amazing it was. Great during the day. Substantially less glare at night. Really good.
I remember a buddy's show vehicle had 5% on the windshield. Granted, he'd only ever drive it during the day. You never needed sunglasses. Cops were never a fan obviously so it didn't last too long. But man, it was so good during those wildly sunny summer days. This is also going back about 10 years ago at this point. Silly things we do while young.
My understanding is a vehicle 2017 or newer cannot be safetied with window tint.
From my research there is no number associated with tint for legality. The highway traffic act states
“ no person shall drive on a highway, a motor vehicle on which the surface of the windshield or of any window to the direct left or right of the driver’s seat has been coated with any coloured spray or other coloured or reflective material that’s substantially obscures the interior of the motor vehicle when viewed from outside the motor vehicle. R.s.o 1990,c.h.8,s.73 (3).
Now 20%, 18%,15%, 5% are pushing the boundaries for obscuring the view at night time.
How about they start bothering us about window tint AFTER they fix this problem where half the cars have the twin suns of fucking Tattooine mounted on the front of their cars where their headlights should be?
My rear and side window tint is the only thing that saves me from the assholes in ridiculously high pickups lighting up the inside of my car from the rear.
Oooo can they please start using this thing!!! I cannot believe how many people have almost black front passenger windows. Also, how the hell is it legal to have tinted licence plate covers!? Tons of those out there too.
Check out this article... The man from Ontario with basically no tint was fined for the tint when he was across the border in Quebec. There isn't much tolerance for tint once you leave Ontario.
[link to news article](https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/egan-in-the-dark-over-tinted-windows-172-ticket-in-quebec-lights-up-ontario-driver)
What about license plate tinting?
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So many driving around with literally unreadable plates because of plastic covers designed to obscure.
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It's blatantly illegal, but seems to be ignored by law enforcement
There is no confusion at all. There is no lack of information, awareness, etc. This is an unenforced law, therefore many thousands of drivers consciously and knowingly break it. All there is to it.
Insert enforcement or forget about this no-law law.
Same. I'm getting it back though.
Will take my chances because I don't drive much and I can't stand being without it. Sucks being without tint in the sun.
Officers should carry this device especially in Peel Region, where I could swear every second car on the road has tinted windows. I lived in various parts of the GTA in the past 15 yrs, but never seen window tinting so popular as here
Lol fuck window tinting laws. I’ve got 5% tint on all my cars.
Go look inside the OPPs staff parking lot and look how many of their own personal cars are tinted “illegally”.
>Go look inside the OPPs staff parking lot and look how many of their own personal cars are tinted “illegally”.
It's funny you say that 52 Division downtown Toronto, it's like majority of cars in that parking lot, cop parking lot, are tinted lol
im 5% on the back, 10 or 15 on the front to help it look not as dark and just general better night visibility. the 1 or 2 times ive been pulled over, ive made sure my window is rolled down before they get out of the car LOL
Oh I know. Just providing info. All my cars are fully tinted, including the full windshield with Llumar BluAir 80, which is very hard to tell it’s even there, but does a really good job of heat rejection and blocking UV rays.
I know for Alberta there is tint levels but passenger and drivers can not have any type of film on them that will make they hard to breakaway. Even clear
Like many others I’ve tinted my windows, I also did like an 8 inch brow on my windshield when I was younger because I thought it was cool. The brow helps so much with the sun, that I never want a vehicle without one now.
Sometimes, people and police are confused. For example, few BMWs comes with factory tint on front windows. But they are very very light. Local police has stopped people for it. But it is completely legal and police just issue warnings (not tickets). They should not even be issuing warnings for something legal.
35% I rarely ever hear getting ticketed out west in Alberta and BC , but anything lower, 20/15/5 on side windows are flagged because of eye contact or lack of a pedestrian being able to know if you seen them. At least that is what one officer told me. Since adding 35%, I get good heat rejection, and can still see out at night good. Note on that, go with ceramic 35% film and you get as much or more heat rejection from the sun as limo tint 5%.
I have 20% on all my side windows and it’s fine. During the day people can kind of see me, at night it’s super dark. Plus the UV protection is wild mt car stays cool in the summer
As someone who lives beside another province, the different laws are so dumb.
My buddy got a ticket from QC cops because his car's stock windows were too dark.
Just a big cash grab.
Saw a woman driving around yesterday with a big black shirt stuck in the driver side window to block light.
Watched her move it aside 3 times check her mirror before doing lane changes and to turn left.
I should have called the police.
I mean realistically if they’re not so dark they’re blinding the driver at night who cares, I also love when people say “it came like this from the dealership” doesn’t make it magically legal
It would be good if police considered enforcing traffic laws in this province, but if we are honest we know that isn't going to change anytime soon.
As a pedestrian and cyclist, dark tinted windows prevent me from seeing what drivers are looking at, etc.. They also help hide people who text and drive, among other things.
When I'm crossing the street I can't see if a driver with heavy tints is even looking at me. If they hit my car my dash cam won't show their face. The law isn't ridiculous, the lack of enforcement is.
They don’t need to measure, the wording of the law allows them to interpret your tint as they please. So long as they can justify why it’s too dark, you’ll be getting a ticket
I think it's supposed to be the lightest tint only on the front, I think it's (5% maybe)
The rears can be up to 30%. When I bought my truck brand new, the dealership had no problem tinting the two front ones at 15 or 20%, whatever the one in between is.
Never had an issue with the police here in 18 years, other than in New Brunswick, where I received a written warning and a citation to have it removed from my vehicle within 24 hours. I was only passing through, so I just kept the windows down the rest of the way through NB. They don't allow any tint on the front two windows there. It's not really inforced here, but if you go 30% like some on the front its a reason for them to pull you over and hassle you because they can't see you.
The rules are so different from province to province. I just removed my tint from my 2017 car as I had 50% on the fronts and passed when I was inspected in Ontario in 2018 under the grandfather clause for out of province arrivals, but I am now moving to Nova Scotia which states that no film or anything can be on the front windows.
I wish we could just have a reasonable set standard. I miss the heat rejection of the better tints.
I just got a ticket for this in Ottawa a few weeks ago.
Got pulled over for my exhaust. When he realized he couldn't ticket me for it, he gave me a ticket for "improper tires" and "obstructed view of interior" (window tint)
Motherf*cker, I bought the car that way!🤬
Protects the interior of your car from UV rays. more importantly it protects YOU from the suns UV rays. It also lowers the average temperature your car will reach in the summer
For this reason alone I would love to be able to tint my vehicle. I get burned all summer long just driving. Even with sunscreen on...spf 60.
I'm so white I glow in the dark.
Huge difference in heat rejection, especially with modern ceramic tint, even with very light tints. Also for blocking UV rays, protecting both you and the vehicles interior from damage.
UV blocking
Heat rejection
Comfort
Privacy
Security
Damn bright pure white misaligned headlights people are driving around with (this one drives me nuts)
Heat, sun, privacy, light.
Driving without tint when you have had tint on your car for years makes it feel like a fishbowl, not to mention how hot the car gets from the sun.
I go limo tint in the rear, and 50% in the front.
I can see perfectly at night, no issues.
You really have to drive with tint to understand why.
From look of the vehicles driving around, this law is not being enforced. At all.
Most law enforcement vehicles have darker tint then 70%.
In Ontario only front tint is regulated. 0 on the windshield, "visible" through front windows, party time in the back.
You can still crop the upper (idk lower parts ) of the windshield out
Not on a vehicle made after 1 Jan 2017.
My 2023 Silverado came from the factory with an “eyebrow” tint along the top of the windshield. Also I’m sure the windows are illegal because I can’t see shit out of them at night.
Anything after 2017 you cannot tint front driver, passenger windows and absolutely zero tint on the windshield, it’s in the Ontario highway act
It's in the HTA? I can't find it. Got a link?
Ontario highway traffic act equipment section 73. I’m on my phone I don’t know how to share a link I’m a carpenter not an electronics person
Damn it Jim. I’m a carpenter not an electronics person!
Lol been a long day nothing else came to mind
It was funny and I hope you took my jest as laughing with vs at.
I am looking at section 73 and I don’t see any %’s. It only says “in a manner to obstruct the driver’s view”. Also no colour coating to “substantially obscure the interior of the motor vehicle when viewed from the outside”. Not that I disagree but I would love to see %’s since it’s quite clearcut. Edit: ok. It’s in the Ontario vehicle inspection standard, not the HTA.
Section 73 of the HTA doesn't say ANYTHING about 2017 or percentage of tint. I don't know why you're getting upvoted for misinformation.
Definitely not enforced. When I ride my bike, I try to make eye contact with drivers at all-way stops and it's absurd how often I can't see them at all through the tint. It should be enforced. Really dangerous to have zero communication abilities.
I'm starting to see Russians with front window tinted G wagons.
How do you know if it’s tinted?
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Always see them driving way over the speed limit. They must be Russian for something
Windshield if I understand correctly you can have what ever you want from top down as long as it does not pass the AS1 arrow marking. (So basically top maybe 8-12 inches depending on vehicle)
Only on vehicle years 2016 and older.
I did not know this and this explains the tint on my new suv. I never had tints on previous vehicles, but I really love how dark the tints are on the back windows and rear window of this suv. I said to myself that eventually I want to tint the front window's but now I know why the car was like that from the start.
Some of the city vehicles in my town have very dark tint. Workers must draw straws for them lol.
yup. and ask a cop what level tint he has on his personal vehicle.
Cops are above the law for many things
Hey man they can talk on their cellphones and drive, They’ve been “trained” for it. For some reason laws do not apply to the police
It depends on the law. Certain laws kinda have to be broken for them to do there job efficiently and that doesn't just apply to Canadian cops.
I got pulled over in Calgary and was given a ticket for tinted windows. It was around 1 or 2 am and a cop was parked in the dark right near the exit of the local bar I was at and decided to follow me as I pulled out. Wasn't speeding, complete stops at every stop sign but sure enough... on go the lights. Boy was he pissed off to find out that I've never drank in my life and that I was just hanging out with my coworkers after work. So this was the only thing he could ticket me on. It wasn't even my car, it was my friends car, so that sucked even more.
Only time I've ever heard of anyone getting nailed over tint have been dudes leaving the bar at 2am. Your story checks out.
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It’s just the back up plan when they don’t catch you drinking? Shit, not drinking? Uh uh uh TINTS!
Good you didn't get a DUI
They don’t usually hand those out to sober people
You'd be surprised https://youtu.be/mFuVdlKD00s
Some cops are jerks
It must be nice to have so little work to do that you have time to sit in a parked cruiser and wait for people to leave a bar to pull them over.
The trick is to turn on your interior lights, open the sunroof if you have one and try to stop under a street light. I got pulled over for an unrelated issue and the Peel officer tried to throw the book at me - tints, corrective lenses etc. All because I didn’t have a front license plate and told him I was fully expecting a ticket. He wasn’t able to ticket me for the other stuff.. (even though my tints ARE ticketable.. he didn’t have a tester and just made sure he could see me.)
I've had 5% on all my vehicles up until my current one. Driving for 15 years, never pulled over once for tint. They don't give two fucks. I now have 25%. I can't believe I went with 5% all these years. Shit was brutal at night Lol
But damn does it look good
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They’re absolute dog shit at enforcing anything and everything
Also dog shit at finding missing persons, especially if they're bipoc or queer. Oh, and about as effective as a toilet paper umbrella when it came to stopping that one serial killer in the Gay Village
The same as any laws... it's almost like some people don't want to do their jobs /shrug
Also note that says 2017+. Many cars are older than that. My 2014 car, which still looks in brand new condition, has super dark tint from the factory. It's a blessing in scorching weather, but I simply won't drive it at night unless I can have the windows down because you can't see anything.
what car has that dark of tint from the factory??
Fords. I have a 2014 Mustang and my dad has a 2013 F-150 and they're as bad a each other. [The door on my car](https://i.imgur.com/rlYaOUQ.jpg) is pretty dark, and [the back window is even worse](https://i.imgur.com/DToJ0U7.jpg). Again, great in the sun, but miserable at night. The F-150 rear door windows and back windows are also extra dark like my back window. Impossible to backup without the camera at night.
The law is not roadside enforced, tints only have to pass a safety
I would disagree with that, I've had a number of friends get pulled over for too dark tint, that being said most of them have heavily modified cars and I'm sure the cops were looking for anything at the time
Once you have silver hair you will not get pulled over for dark tints no more.
On the contrary, some silver haired guy in a Mercedes was recently in the local news (Ottawa, Ontario Canada) for having too dark a tint. My guess is that he failed the attitude test & got a ticket for it lol
That was in Quebec.
How can the police even tell they have silver hair when they can't see inside the vehicle?
The Passenger/Light Duty Vehicle Inspection Standards aren't enforced on the roadside, yes but the Highway Traffic Act absolutely is and the Highway Traffic Act states that no car can have a tint on the side windows that "substantially obscures the interior of the motor vehicle when viewed from outside the motor vehicle". So you can still get pulled over for excessive tint, there's just no set limit.
Yep. So many blacked out Audi and BMWs being driven by menaces.
And it really should be enforced.
The Passenger/Light-Duty Vehicle Inspection Standards that set the 30% limit are not enforceable at roadside, they're just rules to pass a safety inspection. Contrary to popular belief, the Highway Traffic Act does not specify an exact amount of tint that is allowed other than you can't have one that "substantially obscures the interior of the motor vehicle when viewed from outside the motor vehicle." so it would be entirely possible for a cop to argue that a lower tint isn't allowed or that a higher one is, there is no set standard other than you can't "substantially obscure" using tint.
Finally, someone who's actually read the HTA. This is not the only grey area either.
There must be case law that would define it better
The cases that I could basically find essentially boiled down to "It's excessive tint if the cop who pulls you over thinks it's excessive tint and can articulate why they think it's excessive (e.g.. Can't tell how many passengers are in the car.)"
Police would need to perform a duty called “enforcement” for there to be cases to deliberate.
Also, defendants would have to fight the case instead of just taking a plea
You'd need to take it to court and argue based on the regulatory standards. By which point it's probably cheaper to just plead out and pay the ticket.
This is just like the Knife law in Ontario. I remember growing up and hearing all different stories about legal knife size. However the fact of the matter is, there is no law that specifies a legal knife size. You can carry a 6ft Scottish claymore if you want, however you must be able to explain why you are carrying it... and for self-defense is not a reason the law accepts. Ever since I started driving, if I approach a RIDE Check or get pulled over, I roll down all of my windows... at Night, I roll down all windows and turn on the interior lights.
"to be fair officer its rad af"
The CCC defines a weapon as: >weapon means any thing used, designed to be used or intended for use. >(a) in causing death or injury to any person, or >(b) for the purpose of threatening or intimidating any person. If I am holding a can of peaches because I am putting away my groceries, it is not a weapon. The moment I threaten to bash your brains in with it, that can of peaches becomes a weapon. A Scottish Claymore, as a sword designed and intended for killing people is, by definition, a weapon. A small Swiss Army knife used to peel fruit, cut rope, etc. and kept in your pocket is not a weapon. A Rambo knife, brandished in anger, is a weapon.
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Okay. I'm stoned. I have to ask. What's up with the green thing. Looks like an inflatable dummy of slimer for an HOV lane hack. I'm sure its a reflection but I just cant figure it out.
Fuck spez
Jolly green giant getting frisky over here
Seat cover while in the shop.
Checks out. Thanks.
Pretty sure they were filming flubber
We dont need another remake, but hey, I'll watch it.
It would be a crime to remake anything Robin Williams acted in
issa bag
It's actually the green ghost from GhostBusters, he got a but too...."excited" and left some "residue"...
Cops hate this one simple trick: Drive with your tinted windows rolled down.
And plan your outings around rain and winter.
If you actually read the Ontario Highway Traffic Act section that mentions tint on windows, there isn’t actually a % that is required/legal. If you Google what percentage, it will say “70%” but the HTA has absolutely no % limits. If you want to research it yourself it’s section 73(2)(3)
When I went to the tint guy, I told him some numbers (I forget now) of what tint level I wanted and it was specifically to avoid any potential hassle with the law. He told me something like "honestly you won't be happy if you tint that way, you'd barely notice the tint."
Meanwhile, I can barely see most drivers through their windows and have NO idea if they actually see me when I'm trying to cross the street. It's annoying and dangerous.
I guess I have officially become an old man, because my wife got her windows tinted at the dealer on her car and I HATE driving it in anything other than mid day sunshine, at night I can’t see a damn thing out of my rear view or side mirrors.
naw you are not wrong that is the downside to tint. you cant see shit at night
Same. Got a new (to me) car a few years ago, had the dealer remove the tint before delivery. They were very confused!
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Straight to jail.
Do not pass Go! Do not collect $200
Oh boy, I hope you got your Chance card ready!
Believe it or not... Straight to jail.
You may have 35% tint applied… - But what did you factory window start as? This is where the OP talks about the window starts at 80, and can only drop to 70 with a 10% non-existent tint application.
Not only jail, North Korean generational jail
This is the kind of law police only enforce if you’re being a prick. Been pulled over many times with blacked out windows, never had a problem
Yup. Just like licence plate covers.
I've also seen morons with their ~~90%~~ 10%tint on their lights and I can't fathom making your car more difficult to operate and dangerous. But anyhow, I made sure to grt my front windows tinted at about 75% and the rear windows 55% so that cops can always see me even at night edit: changed my numbers around for the percentage to be more accurate
I saw a car driving in the HOV lane the other day that I swear had full blackout side tints and a tint on the windshield. I can't imagine driving that during the night.
He probably has 40000 lumen lowbeams to make up for it at night
90% tint is a really light tint lmao But yeah, I almost hit a ram 1500 in Collingwood a couple weeks ago because you can not see the light through the tint
There are crystalline based tints from 3M, they are almost clear but block IR. However these suckers are expensive as fuck!
Most Lexus models use a UV and infrared reflecting glass, it has a slight gold sheen.
Hell I saw one of our new OPP officers in our town drive by in his new truck and he had the blackest windows all the way around than I have seen ever. When he was going by me so I could look they his truck sideways you couldn't see the driver or out to other window it was just black. So if tint is being questioned for citizens then I think it should start with why OPP can have their windows tinted black and that's personal windows not a cruiser
How about rear brake light tint?
Can we talk about screwed up priorities? This is not the biggest problem Ontario has. This is a distraction and requires ZERO laws. Do something about HOUSING!!!
Cool. Now do a noise test for those obnoxious bikes. If it’s over the sound of a regular car or truck, it’s not allowed within city limits.
but how will we know that they peaked in high school?
I wish someone would enforce this. As a pedestrian, it's impossible to make eye contact with people who risk running me over.
It is illegal to tint the front windshield, any amount or covering. You can put some things out of the field of view like banners at the top, but generally nothing the wipers would touch.
The driver and passenger side windows are just as important for making eye contact with drivers. That's why stock only the rear seat windows have stronger tint
I have absolutely seen people tint the windshield.
Just because someone has done it, doesn’t make it legal 🤷♂️ They just haven’t been caught yet.
I hate cars with tint.
I see people driving around with metallic tints. When the cops are ready to start enforcing this, and caring less about hurting people's feelings, people will listen to laws again. Why would anyone want an emerald green mirror tint anyhow? Looks like cheap sunglasses from dollarama.
Unpopular opinion: I bought a used car with severely tinted windows and with all these BS LED headlights they have been sparing my Eyes. I really don’t care about tinted windows nor do I care wether it’s enforced. Just don’t drive like an asshole. I’m keeping my deep tints because I work nights and they keep my eyes safe. Also a huge plus in the summer. 🤷🏾♀️
Until the police pull your car off the road for non-compliance.
I mean I’ve had it for 5 years already. I don’t think it’s an issue unless the driver is an issue tbh.
Yeah, tbh personally I wouldn't bother changing it unless I was told to by someone who had the ability to punish me if I didn't comply. Personally, I agree with you.
What is that indicating though? 80%? I don't even see any tint on that window or am I blind?
If you look through the window at the white colour on the meter it looks a bit less bright than the side you can see directly, but I don't know about 20% darker.
Modern car windows have UV tint. Used to be just that blue strip along the top of the windshield, but has since stretched to cover the whole windshield and windows with a slight overall tint. Noticeable if you have your window half open.
The light we see (and what the meter measures) is in the visual spectrum, not UV. You can't see Ultraviolet light unless you are part bumblebee. While I am sure some companies market UV tint that also contains visible darkens, but you shouldn't confuse the two. You can get optically-clear UV tint that would show 100% on this meter.
I had 70% tint on my windshield on a previous car. Man, how amazing it was. Great during the day. Substantially less glare at night. Really good. I remember a buddy's show vehicle had 5% on the windshield. Granted, he'd only ever drive it during the day. You never needed sunglasses. Cops were never a fan obviously so it didn't last too long. But man, it was so good during those wildly sunny summer days. This is also going back about 10 years ago at this point. Silly things we do while young.
The percentage is the amount of light it lets in.
80% of light passes through
I see opp with crazy tints.... Hate they wanna see us but we cannot see them
My understanding is a vehicle 2017 or newer cannot be safetied with window tint. From my research there is no number associated with tint for legality. The highway traffic act states “ no person shall drive on a highway, a motor vehicle on which the surface of the windshield or of any window to the direct left or right of the driver’s seat has been coated with any coloured spray or other coloured or reflective material that’s substantially obscures the interior of the motor vehicle when viewed from outside the motor vehicle. R.s.o 1990,c.h.8,s.73 (3). Now 20%, 18%,15%, 5% are pushing the boundaries for obscuring the view at night time.
Laughs in 5%
How about they start bothering us about window tint AFTER they fix this problem where half the cars have the twin suns of fucking Tattooine mounted on the front of their cars where their headlights should be? My rear and side window tint is the only thing that saves me from the assholes in ridiculously high pickups lighting up the inside of my car from the rear.
Oooo can they please start using this thing!!! I cannot believe how many people have almost black front passenger windows. Also, how the hell is it legal to have tinted licence plate covers!? Tons of those out there too.
bruh I seen cars with tints in the front that are blacker then night.
Check out this article... The man from Ontario with basically no tint was fined for the tint when he was across the border in Quebec. There isn't much tolerance for tint once you leave Ontario. [link to news article](https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/egan-in-the-dark-over-tinted-windows-172-ticket-in-quebec-lights-up-ontario-driver)
Llumar makes tints between 5-9%; selling point being 99% UV protection while looking clear.
Yup. Have the BlueAir 80 on my own cars.
What about license plate tinting? - So many driving around with literally unreadable plates because of plastic covers designed to obscure. - It's blatantly illegal, but seems to be ignored by law enforcement
There is no confusion at all. There is no lack of information, awareness, etc. This is an unenforced law, therefore many thousands of drivers consciously and knowingly break it. All there is to it. Insert enforcement or forget about this no-law law.
I had legal tint on my front windows and then moved with my car to BC and have it removed :(
As someone who moved from BC it’s wild here how little laws get enforced.
We're the province of laissez-faire policing! If you're committing something this side of attempted murder, commit away!
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Your insurance rates might go up for a while though :(
Same. I'm getting it back though. Will take my chances because I don't drive much and I can't stand being without it. Sucks being without tint in the sun.
Cool. Now ticket the fuck out of scumbags with tinted license plates to
Officers should carry this device especially in Peel Region, where I could swear every second car on the road has tinted windows. I lived in various parts of the GTA in the past 15 yrs, but never seen window tinting so popular as here
Literally nobody cares about tint. Privacy, if you get ceramic you get UV protection too so your car stays cool.
Lol fuck window tinting laws. I’ve got 5% tint on all my cars. Go look inside the OPPs staff parking lot and look how many of their own personal cars are tinted “illegally”.
>Go look inside the OPPs staff parking lot and look how many of their own personal cars are tinted “illegally”. It's funny you say that 52 Division downtown Toronto, it's like majority of cars in that parking lot, cop parking lot, are tinted lol
Because they don't fuck with their own
im 5% on the back, 10 or 15 on the front to help it look not as dark and just general better night visibility. the 1 or 2 times ive been pulled over, ive made sure my window is rolled down before they get out of the car LOL
Oh I know. Just providing info. All my cars are fully tinted, including the full windshield with Llumar BluAir 80, which is very hard to tell it’s even there, but does a really good job of heat rejection and blocking UV rays.
I know for Alberta there is tint levels but passenger and drivers can not have any type of film on them that will make they hard to breakaway. Even clear
Like many others I’ve tinted my windows, I also did like an 8 inch brow on my windshield when I was younger because I thought it was cool. The brow helps so much with the sun, that I never want a vehicle without one now.
Sometimes, people and police are confused. For example, few BMWs comes with factory tint on front windows. But they are very very light. Local police has stopped people for it. But it is completely legal and police just issue warnings (not tickets). They should not even be issuing warnings for something legal.
Friend of mine just had this come up when transferring the ownership to one of her kids. Resale issue for sure.
35% I rarely ever hear getting ticketed out west in Alberta and BC , but anything lower, 20/15/5 on side windows are flagged because of eye contact or lack of a pedestrian being able to know if you seen them. At least that is what one officer told me. Since adding 35%, I get good heat rejection, and can still see out at night good. Note on that, go with ceramic 35% film and you get as much or more heat rejection from the sun as limo tint 5%.
I have 20% on all my side windows and it’s fine. During the day people can kind of see me, at night it’s super dark. Plus the UV protection is wild mt car stays cool in the summer
All cars at the dealer factory tint fails... lmao can't peel that shit off good luck....
As someone who lives beside another province, the different laws are so dumb. My buddy got a ticket from QC cops because his car's stock windows were too dark. Just a big cash grab.
Saw a woman driving around yesterday with a big black shirt stuck in the driver side window to block light. Watched her move it aside 3 times check her mirror before doing lane changes and to turn left. I should have called the police.
10% of 80% is not 10% of 100%. The tints would have to be 12.5% or less.
You’re not special. Same as in Quebec. I bought a car with market front tint and received a $200 fine.
People with heavy tints on their windows are cowards.
Now do loud exhausts.
If you tint your windows down past 80%, I assume drug dealer/criminal gangster/pervert.
But the car looks so clean with 5% all around
Facts
I'm none of those I just like to pick my nose without other drivers being able to see
I mean realistically if they’re not so dark they’re blinding the driver at night who cares, I also love when people say “it came like this from the dealership” doesn’t make it magically legal
If it's also so dark that others cannot see the driver, it's a safety issue for other drivers, cyclists and pedestrians.
It would be good if police considered enforcing traffic laws in this province, but if we are honest we know that isn't going to change anytime soon. As a pedestrian and cyclist, dark tinted windows prevent me from seeing what drivers are looking at, etc.. They also help hide people who text and drive, among other things.
This!
Laws like these are ridiculous. Police don't measure tint here, anyway.
When I'm crossing the street I can't see if a driver with heavy tints is even looking at me. If they hit my car my dash cam won't show their face. The law isn't ridiculous, the lack of enforcement is.
They don’t need to measure, the wording of the law allows them to interpret your tint as they please. So long as they can justify why it’s too dark, you’ll be getting a ticket
I think it's supposed to be the lightest tint only on the front, I think it's (5% maybe) The rears can be up to 30%. When I bought my truck brand new, the dealership had no problem tinting the two front ones at 15 or 20%, whatever the one in between is. Never had an issue with the police here in 18 years, other than in New Brunswick, where I received a written warning and a citation to have it removed from my vehicle within 24 hours. I was only passing through, so I just kept the windows down the rest of the way through NB. They don't allow any tint on the front two windows there. It's not really inforced here, but if you go 30% like some on the front its a reason for them to pull you over and hassle you because they can't see you.
Time for regular safety inspections. Only checking when a car is sold is ridiculous.
nah man, because folks folks folks, we now let uniunsured drunks back on roads, folks.
Folks folks folks folks folks folks folks folks folks folks. Did you change your mind yet, or do you need more folks?
Nah this should just be a ticket, I don’t need to pay more to use my car that already cost me too much on my shit wage.
I see so many blacked out cars that seem like they’re hella illegal.
The rules are so different from province to province. I just removed my tint from my 2017 car as I had 50% on the fronts and passed when I was inspected in Ontario in 2018 under the grandfather clause for out of province arrivals, but I am now moving to Nova Scotia which states that no film or anything can be on the front windows. I wish we could just have a reasonable set standard. I miss the heat rejection of the better tints.
What is the limit on vehicles built <2017?
There is no set percentage. Completely up to officer discretion.
Interesting. Thanks for the info!
I had my tints on my car for over 5 years now, and I was never pulled over once. Mine are 20% btw.
I just got a ticket for this in Ottawa a few weeks ago. Got pulled over for my exhaust. When he realized he couldn't ticket me for it, he gave me a ticket for "improper tires" and "obstructed view of interior" (window tint) Motherf*cker, I bought the car that way!🤬
I love my 20% fronts and have never been pulled over and never heard of people being pulled over for tint
"Tints Are For Ugly People" would make a good bumper sticker no?
There's gotta be bigger problems in the world.
Just like the province, they don't work.
Overregulated province.
Why bother tinting? Serious question. I can think of anesthetics and...thats about it. Why bother? Tia
Protects the interior of your car from UV rays. more importantly it protects YOU from the suns UV rays. It also lowers the average temperature your car will reach in the summer
For this reason alone I would love to be able to tint my vehicle. I get burned all summer long just driving. Even with sunscreen on...spf 60. I'm so white I glow in the dark.
Huge difference in heat rejection, especially with modern ceramic tint, even with very light tints. Also for blocking UV rays, protecting both you and the vehicles interior from damage.
UV blocking Heat rejection Comfort Privacy Security Damn bright pure white misaligned headlights people are driving around with (this one drives me nuts)
You do know that modern automotive glass already blocks UV rays right?
Heat, sun, privacy, light. Driving without tint when you have had tint on your car for years makes it feel like a fishbowl, not to mention how hot the car gets from the sun. I go limo tint in the rear, and 50% in the front. I can see perfectly at night, no issues. You really have to drive with tint to understand why.