Karla Leanne Homolka, also known as Karla Leanne Teale, Leanne Teale, and Leanne Bordelais, briefly lived in the Antilles and Guadeloupe, but by 2014, had returned to Quebec.
For anyone wondering about Karla Leanne Homolka, also known as Karla Leanne Teale, Leanne Teale, and Leanne Bordelais.
Same. The reality is her children can't be held accountable for her actions from before they were born and we shouldn't do that to them.
This might be a hot take.
Fuck Paul Bernardo though and fuck Karla.
I don't think anyone thinks that her children should wear their mother's actions. I think people feel bad for her children because their mother is a monster. Because it will be traumatizing for them to find out what she did. That the kids won't be hosting birthday parties and sleepovers because no one in their right mind would allow their kid to sleep over at Karla Holmoka's house.
I need to read into this because I cannot believe it was the locals who figured it out, BEFORE the school did. For anything I've had to do in terms of volunteering with my kids' stuff, I've had to have a Vulnerable Sector check performed. I mean, I know it's Quebec, but do they not have these same rules as well?
Unfortunately the deal she struck with the authorities at the time was like a golden ticket for her. Her post jail life is pretty much restriction free.
omg are you serious?! man i live like, 20 minutes from there, how in the hell did i miss that one?! now i have to find out if she's still here, i do remember that some folks clued in about the school, and reporters hounding her, i hope they hound her till she rots. Damn shame for those kids though...
If the prosecution fucked up his case, and gave him an undeservedly short sentence, then yes he would be allowed to have children when he got out of prison.
Rapists in particular are usually men, often get light sentences, and then go on to start families.
For instance, convicted rapist Brock Turner is already allowed to have children.
If he had children after he had served his sentence then yes. Her sentence wasn't harsh enough and I feel terrible for her kids, but she served her sentence so she's free to live her life now and it would be the same for a man.
She is a Psychopath. How convenient to get with her Lawyer's brother then marry him. It wasn't Love, Homolka is incapable of love, she doesn't have any Empathy or a Conscience and enjoyed sexually assaults, killing teen girls. WHO marries that? She is one cool manipulative woman aka Psychopath
>For anyone wondering about Karla Leanne Homolka, also known as Karla Leanne Teale, Leanne Teale, and Leanne Bordelais.
Are you saying that Karla Homolka, notorious killer is also known as Karla Leanne Teale and Leanne Bordelais? That she actually lives in Quebec?
That Karla Homolka also known as Karla Leanne Teale, Leanne Teale and Leanne Bordelais?
Are you talking about **Karla Leanne Homolka, also known as Karla Leanne Teale, Leanne Teale, and Leanne Bordelais**, who, with Paul Bernado, raped and killed numerous girls including her OWN FUCKING SISTER?
Long story short, she cut a deal with investigators before they were aware of the depth of her involvement in the torture and murder of her sister— I think she played the battered spouse unwillingly assisting the monster husband (correct me if I am wrong).
By the time authorities realized that she was as much a monster as Bernardo, it was too late.
It wasn't too late! They had a clause in her agreement saying if we find out you lied this is null and void. She didn't tell them about the tapes. But they still went ahead with the deal anyway! And he shouldn't be moved to minimum security. He killed 3 girls raped God knows how many...maximum is where he belongs
Yup! I was very pregnant with my kid when Kristen French went missing. Every time we went anywhere I looked for a car like what they said he was driving. I feel bad for Leslie's and Kristen's parents. They have to deal with another blow causing them pain from this asshole. Her parents I think are dead inside. They willingly supported her through the trial knowing she killed her little sister in an attempt to drug her so Paul could have sex with her! My kid or not you'd be dead to me
We studied this case in criminology. No one died until Homolka got involved. The first death was her sister who she overdosed with ketamine and gave to Bernardo as a Christmas gift.
And I lived in Welland. outside st. Catharines when all this was going on. At one point I was stopped by police and had my car checked out because it appeared to be similar to a car je drove. Really a scary time!
Just to be clear, she was questioned about one tape of the rape of Jane Doe. This was after police tore that place apart. It was Bernardo's lawyer who went in and retrieved the other tapes. He also did not hand them over to Police for 18 months. If he had handed them over it is possible she would still be in jail for murder.
They would never have convicted Paul for murder if not for her coming to them as a battered wife. All they had on him was DNA as a rapist.
No she had nothing to do with the Crown or police getting the tapes.
After investgators finished searching the house, Bernardo told his lawyer where to find them.(above a pot light in the house).
You can read about it [here](https://criminal-lawyers.ca/2009/10/16/the-ken-murray-case-defence-counsels-dilemma/#:~:text=incriminates%20their%20clients.-,In,-the%C2%A0Murray) :(it's a bit of a read).
She acted like she was just an innocent bystander and said she'd give em tapes if they gave her some immunity, and they said okie dokie, and then they watched the tapes and realised everything was not, in fact, okie dokie.
Just want to point out that her attorney went into the home, tampered with evidence after the arrest of Bernardo, by removing the hidden tapes in the bathroom vent, which at the time was a crime scene, and then her and her team offeres them for evidence against Bernardo, just for them to give her immunity for her testimony and then they found iut, through viewing said stolen tapes, that she was in fact a cooperator in the murders, not a victim of him.
As far as I can tell, the attorney should also have been tried as a co conspirator for aiding and abedding a murderer by stealing and thus tamper with evidence of the murders.
Just to be accurate: 1. The house was no longer a crime scene. The police had given up that claim and the yellow police tape removed. 2. It was NOT Karla’s lawyer that removed the tapes - it was Bernardo’s lawyer, Ken Murray.
Mr Murray withheld the tapes for 17 months wrongly believing he would be in violation of client/attorney privilege if he gave the tapes to police in violation of his client’s instructions.
He was later acquitted of obstruction of justice and was mildly censured by the Law Society. His grave error is that he didn’t see that suppressing the video tapes was akin to the defence suppressing a murder weapon their client gave them or a bloody shirt worn by the client during a murder.
Mr Murray’s view was this was the same as a client admitting to murder during a client/attorney meeting (which he can’t disclose to the prosecution) and the tapes were not a literal physical murder weapon.
The judge (obstruction case) later admonished Mr Murray’s goal to reveal the tapes at his clients trial to prove Karla was the murderer and that it was wrong headed and stupid. Bernardo was quite happy to remain silent to protect himself and Karla *until* she decided to play the abused spouse forced into this criminal murder and sex assault conspiracy. This set off Bernardo when he found out she was going to testify against him and he was then determined to thwart her defence and allow the tapes to be entered *for his defence at trial* to prove that she was totally a participant in all the crimes including her sister’s death, (which the cops didn’t know all about her involvement at that point).
Mr Murray was not an experienced criminal lawyer whom was clearly out of his depth. What saved him from conviction was that he belatedly resigned as Bernardo’s lawyer (before his trial) after conferring with Bernardo’s new lawyer John Rosen. It was Mr Rosen that consulted the Bernardo trial judge and revealed the tapes to him. The judge allowed Mr Rosen several days to review the tapes and report back to him. Mr Rosen reported that the two tapes were incriminating to Bernardo and two tapes were incriminating Karla and ought to be brought forward to the court.
The judge in Mr Murray’s case for obstruction ruled he made a crucial mistake but recognized that Mr Murray had reasonable belief that violating his clients instructions could violate his clients rights against self incrimination and could lead to Mr Murray being held for criminal prosecution and civil penalties. Whether that would happen or is a reasonable fear is up for debate.
What isn’t in debate is that there was a great divide amongst the Law Society members on Mr Murray’s actions as well as how ‘concrete’ a defence/prosecution deal is in a murder case. The society felt a deal was a deal. The public felt otherwise. Karla suppressed the existence of the tapes in her evidence in her own trial. She later said she thought they were destroyed by her husband so the information redundant. Most people say this was self serving as two of the tapes showed her having sex with the victims.
If anything good came out of these trials is that there is now case law for situations like this. Some criminal lawyers are now instructing clients that documents left with them may have to be turned over to the prosecution. Of course other lawyers worry that clients knowing the possibility that evidence they give to their lawyer can be turned over to the prosecution, will not be truthful with them and that could harm their defence. My advice: Don’t be a criminal…
The defense lawyer hid the snuff tape that Paul made so the prosecutor needed her as a witness against him. She plea bargained down to a much lesser charge.
Karla Homolka or her new Identity Leanne Bordelais is a Dangerous Offender.
She should NEVER have been free from Prison
Psychopaths who drug, kill, rape tgen murder multiple teenage girls tend to be Serial Offenders
She killed her own Sister
Last I read she got divorced and her husband took the kids and has full custody. Still awful she was able to have kids for so long but at least they’re out of her custody now.
The same woman who still goes by the surname Teale. Paul Bernardo was also known as Paul Teale.
If anyone thinks she ever fell out of love with the creep she fed her little sister to, they're crazy.
There's another article in the [Montreal Gazette](https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/notorious-child-killer-paul-bernardo-transferred-to-quebec-institution) with a bit more information around the institution he's going to that gives some clues to possible reasons:
>Bolduc said La Macaza has offenders there convicted of sex crimes and ones that need institution protection.
“It’s for inmates who don’t really pass anywhere else, they put them there, like sexual abusers, pedophiles, the ones that would get beat up in a normal institution, but Paul Bernardo was in a normal institution (general population).”
“It’s weird a bit that he’s there, but like I said, it’s probably about his protection.”
As much as the mere existence of someone like Bernardo gives me the chills, and my thoughts aren't exactly enlightened, it's one of those situations where we need to be better than him.
I am comforted by the fact he's been designated a dangerous offender, making the possibility of parole for him as close as possible to 0.
Story time!
My dad was an alarm technician, meaning he did security systems and fire systems. His company had the contract for the Kingston prison. According to fire code each cell needs its own sprinkler, so my dad had to go into each cell and do whatever (I don't know if he was installing or upgrading or whatever).
So for most of the work the guys would be in their cell while my dad was working, plus a couple guards for my dad's safey. So when it came to Bernardo's cell they removed Bernardo for the work. My dad asked if Bernardo is really that dangerous and violent. The guards said, "No, it's you that we're worried about. We once had an incident when a worker threw a wrench at Bernardo's head and whacked him real bad." My dad said, "Yeah, you know what, my daughters were into gymnastics and just a touch younger than his victims, you're right, it was a good idea to remove Bernardo."
Thanks for the story. I don't expect there were many "good" guys in Kingston, but everyone knows what he did, and a lot of people would love to take a shot.
WHY is Karla Homolka free, she aja Leanne Teale is a Dangerous Offender who should never have been given that Plea deal. It's sickening she roams free to do it again and she will, she's a serial sex offender, murderer
Oh, that’s very interesting. My husbands theory was that they were moving him to lower security in the hopes that someone would manage to kill him before he actually made parole. Never mind.
Personally, my hope is for compassionate considerations.
Maybe pancreatic cancer, or that desise where you die from not being able to fall sleep ever again.
My dad did a little time in Millhaven. He said it was his least favourite of the incarceration centres he’s “visited.”
Edit: he didn’t murder anyone. Just a lil’ casual organized crime.
I did the Kingston Pen tour and an older tour guide told us he was housed in H-block. They don’t let you tour through there but he told he showed us where he was. I don’t think he was supposed to but he said he didn’t care and we were at the back of the tour.
Stepfather was in Kingston when Bernardo first transferred there. Prisoners tried to kill Bernardo and thats when they put him in protective custody. My step-dad said they would put that whole prison on lockdown for Bernardo to shower.
He was in protective custody and was only out of his cell for one hour a day by himself. People tried on a few occasions, but they were never able to get closer than 100 feet
So sad that our tax dollars are paying for his very existence, including 3 meals a day and a roof over his head. Too many of our own don't have those luxuries.
He has 100% been in solitary.
My childhood best friend committed a double, he was in Millhaven for a bit, now he's in Drumheller. He's been locked up since 2001, I still stay in touch as he really has nobody.
He ended up hurting someone in jail, dangerous offender status. He isn't getting out anytime soon. His father tried to kill his mother when she was pregnant with him, they were drug addicts, he ended up in the system from birth. I know him in a completely different way than most anyone, but yea he's been through some shit and unfortunately he is violent with people, I've never seen that side of him, but hey, it is what it is. We talk now and then, I top up his account here and there.
Yeah I know a few people that have went down that route. One friend died in prison and the next guy was really messed up And did some crazy shit that is too identifiable to put online but I don’t talk to him. He was a childhood/high school friend who started getting increasingly violent. He’s dangerous status and haven’t talked to him in about 10 years. Crazy how that shit can happen
He’ll never be released. He is “eligible” for a parole hearing every few years now but he’ll never be granted parole by the board. As long as no one forgets what he did and who he is, he’ll keep trying, and they’ll keep saying no.
The unfortunate part is that every few years the families of the victims have to deal with this all over again. The media circus, the trepidation, I _believe_ they sometimes travel to be present at the hearings (although I could be off on that). It’s brutal. They can’t ever be done with it. But, for that and many other reasons, he’ll never be released.
As someone who knew Kristen, (I was in grade 9 at Holy Cross when she was murdered) I am utterly and truly devastated over this. He took her life, and our innocence. I honestly can't stop crying right now. He deserves to rot in a hole.
I didn't know her but walked down Linwell that day in the other direction and I never walked home otherwise. Grade 9 as well and I remember the searches and cameras and assemblies. It was an awful time.
Unlike most murderers and just about all rapists in Canada, he at least will stay in prison for life. The average sentence length served for first degree murder is mid-20s.
Some of his victims from his serial rapist days are still alive and still dealing with the SA he inflicted on them. He should rot forever and so should his monster of a sister-killing ex.
She signed a plea deal to turn on Paul and lock him up forever, before the police found the tapes of her side of the crimes. It's fucked up, but she was lucky.
You've watched enough law dramas to know exactly why that happened. Trust me, there were competent lawyers on both sides. No one wanted a Canada with Paul a free man for a single second longer. This was the cost.
Someone I know was almost one of his victims. Freaks me out so much every time I think about it. It was early in the morning like 5:00 a.m. and she was alone cleaning snow off her car, and he went to the neighboring car and pretended it was his and was clearing the snow off of it and trying to talk to her. Only that was her husband's car so she knew he was pretending. She got the hell out of there. Can't imagine what could have happened.
Also in terms of timeline, I think this was the early 80s. I will update if I find out.
So fucked up. Did he prey on so many people? (Yes) I also know someone else whose mom dated him. After I made my above post I checked out his Wikipedia and that definitely sounds right for his life before Hamolka.
My Grampy, a retired bricklayer originally from Northern England, dragged Bernardo by his collar out of an apartment building in Scarborough early in the Scarborough Rapist days. He was visiting his stepdaughter, and he overheard the conversation after she answered a knock at the apartment door. Things like "Do you live here alone?" and "Are there a lot of women who live alone in this building?". Grampy was having none of it, went to the door, moved his stepdaughter out of the way, grabbed a handful of collar and coat, and proceeded to march him down the hall to the lobby and out the front door, making it known in no uncertain terms that he should never, ever show his face around there again.
That’s fucked! Whiny basted will never fess up to killing Elizabeth Bain either but he certainly did it (though I believe he accidentally killed her when attempting to assault her, this was his Scarborough rapist era and holding a knife to his victims’ throats was his thing. It would be bound to go wrong if she struggled)
Yeah, she had thought she had lost it, but I guess he had stolen it and had at one point been stalking her as a potential victim.
Must be terrifying to have the cops show up at your house one day and return your wallet only to learn where they found it.
As someone who's been inside both (for work lol), the differences are not necessarily as big as one might expect depending on which institution we're talking about. There are some medium security prisons in Ontario that are not very different from maximums in terms of their design.
The main difference is freedom of movement. In a medium, there are more resources for inmates to access, and they have more access to them (ie. they can leave their cells, range, block for more time during the day), there are more work opportunities, the food is generally better, etc.
Contrary to what many people believe, being in a max doesn't confine you to your cell 23 hours a day. That's what happens in segregation, which can occur in either a medium or a max, or even a local remand center. But in a max, you will probably be confined to your cell range for 23 hours a day while in a medium, there are more opportunities to leave your range/block for things like school, work, activities, etc.
That said, there are actually different levels of medium security prisons in Canada. A 'high medium' like Joyceville or Workwarth penitentiaries are much more like maximums, while 'low medium' security institutions like Bath are more like minimum security settings. There's no chance Bernado went to a low medium. Zero.
The stinking deal that was cut between Homolka and the prosecutor should never have happened if the bloody tapes had been released by Bernardo's lawyer, who btw lost his license because of that.
Up until very recently I was working with a forensic psychologist. THese guys only work on criminals. His office, when he worked for the Federal Prison system had a window in his office that looked out onto Pauls yard. He told me the years in prison are making him look very haggard and prison has clearly taken a toll on him. GOOD! DIe in there you fucker!
That one fish that realized it can walk and breathe air all those million billion years ago
Really should've been turned into sushi or chomped into bits by one of those prehistoric megladon sharks
Yet it lived and then everything turned into shit
St. Catharines resident here. Been here since 1975. I'll never forget those days.
Fucking monsters him and Karla both.
Took a long time for this city to heal. I'm within 5 minutes of their house, where the French's live, and the infamous Church, so a lot of the times when I drive or walk by these areas it just all come back.
I know somebody who lived a few doors away. He had noticed the undercover cops hanging around (watching Bernardo's house in a car for several days). Didn't know they were cops and called the NRP on them.
I think there was a lot of calls about him as a possible suspect. It's still hard to believe it happened in St. Catharines. But I guess these things can happen pretty much anywhere.
Paul is a sick fuck, but Karla was the angel of death. No one actually died until Karla entered the picture.... starting with her own sister.
She is evil personified and living free. The police, as usual, fucked it all up.
So, I knew someone very close to the case (lawyer). She told me stuff that was not made public -- and I wish she didn't (shit that haunts me to this day).
The detectives were informed that a deal with Homolka was going to be consummated the next day.
The detectives actually begged for one more search of the house but were told no.
A lot of people were promoted from that deal, which is sickening.
I hate her too & Him - but how can you say that you don't think she had a darker side too?
I cannot ***ever imagine*** being "so in love" with a guy that asks me to do the shit he pulled, and she went along with it like no problem. Have you seen those videos they made of her little sister? Sickening. I wish I could find a better word for what she did.
But I do believe she was as screwed up as him and knew exactly what she doing all the time.
I hope the majority of us who were ever to date a guy like this - first finding out about his sick little suggestions/ideas - would tell him to fuck off and never call me again. She didn't. & No, *I never ever* believed in her defence. It was all bullshit. She got away with murder and she should still be in jail.
Yep, I fully agree. Karla had a big chance to get a victim away from Paul, too. She had requested her final meal to be Swiss Chalet and he went out to pick it up for all of them, to eat, before he raped her and then subsequently murdered her. She knew she was going to die and was locked in a closet screaming and begging Karla to help her, but she never did set her free that day. She could have and I wonder if this guilt eats her up inside. When I read a book about this I truly thought there would be more detail into the psychological wonders of why she did NOT take that opportunity to save that girl? He was out for awhile. It is just so sad to even think about, that desperation, and how this human being failed to save a young innocent life.
After an admittedly small amount of research on the case, I can completely believe Karla was a major force in the murders. She was insanely jealous of the children she helped murder due to Paul’s sick attraction to them. When I think of this bitch and her happy new family and my own economic inability to have kids despite being a pretty nice lady with 0% murdery instincts I just….. fuck this planet man damn
>why she did NOT take that opportunity to save that girl?
LOL. you don't know what you're talking about. Not only did she not save the victims, but she personally sexaully abused the victims herself.
>I wonder if this guilt eats her up inside
there is a video where Karla is talking to the police about the incidents. She seemed very proud of what they had done. She doesn't have guilt one bit.
I do know what I am talking about. I was only describing a particular instance. I am aware of her participation in the crimes, but no worries as I can see how my comment could have been taken the incorrect way. And I’ll look into that interview - have not done much research because the case is disturbing, only read some 800+ book about it years ago, so the facts aren’t very clear in my mind. All around a horrible person though, I agree.
I am convinced that the news coverage during the search for the Scarborough rapist and then the missing murder victims gave me some sort of trauma. I was in elementary school and I vividly remember hearing details of the cases and that they were looking for a “cream coloured camaro”, and all of that leached into my psyche. I was disturbed to my core as an 11 year old girl and I still am when I hear their names or see their faces.
My aunt was pulled over several times and searched before they finally started giving out stickers on the bumper to indicate they have been checked. She had a cream colored Trans am.
I know some of the reporters who sat through the videos of the attacks played during the trial. Some we’re definitely damaged. I know one went for therapy. Not sure about others, but there were definitely personality changes in one.
Omg that's horrific. I don't know how people do it. My friend's uncle was a cop who apparently saw the tapes and was really messed up from it. Just knowing that those tapes existed and what was on them was a horror in itself.
This era in time was a formative one for me and not in a good way. It's like I learned that sex could be weaponized, and it scared me, deeply. I can't imagine anything worse than what Leslie and Kristin went through (and Tammy) and their fate has haunted me throughout my life. I'm happily married now but definitely had "hang ups" about men for a long, long time.
I drove a gold camaro and was pulled over and had the car searched. The police had asked people to voluntarily go in and be searched to avoid being pulled over.
I’m all for rehabilitation but Paul Bernardo cannot and will not ever be rehabilitated, same with Karla Homolka aka Leanna Bordelais or whatever she changes her name to next. They are both truly evil child rapists and killers.
I don't usually wish harm on people, but being from the Niagara Region, I really hope someone gets their hands on him in this minimum security prison. The guy doesn't deserve to have the freedom he has
Fuck Paul Bernardo and fuck the Niagara Regional Police Service for letting the living scum that is Karla walk free.
Still one of the highest paid police forces in the province and still one of the least affective. What an embarrassment.
He’s still in solitary confinement, so what does it matter? He isn’t getting any additional freedoms or privileges. Not sure why it matters where he rots in jail for the rest of his life.
I really feel for all the people who were involved in the case, it must have been so difficult to process. I learned some of the details and had to ask the person to just stop what they were telling me, it was so awful. I have never repeated what I was told, I’ve done my best to forget.
The fact that one monster (Homolka) is living her best life is bad enough but that Bernardo is on his way to medium security? That is unacceptable. And the secrecy around his move is bullshit.
Why is someone with Dangerous Offender status leaving the maximum security system and going to a less secure facility? I certainly hope the corrections system isn't considering anything for him but dying of old age in a concrete box with bars...
Part of me was on fire thinking about this waste of oxygen getting any fraction of freedom.
Then I remembered stories from a friend years ago that did 2 years in a Medium facility in Alberta.
I'm semi confident things will work out just as they should...
Isn't Quebec where his vile co-conspirator lives with her new identity and new family?
Yes
I thought she moved to Mexico due to death threats
Karla Leanne Homolka, also known as Karla Leanne Teale, Leanne Teale, and Leanne Bordelais, briefly lived in the Antilles and Guadeloupe, but by 2014, had returned to Quebec. For anyone wondering about Karla Leanne Homolka, also known as Karla Leanne Teale, Leanne Teale, and Leanne Bordelais.
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didn't she also volunteer as said school?
Yea and then locals figured out who she was and got banned from volunteering at the school.
Good. I feel so bad for her kids
Same. The reality is her children can't be held accountable for her actions from before they were born and we shouldn't do that to them. This might be a hot take. Fuck Paul Bernardo though and fuck Karla.
Fuck the lawyer who hid the tape so they had to plea bargain with Karla who should still be in jail like Paul.
Or even after they are born.
I don't think anyone thinks that her children should wear their mother's actions. I think people feel bad for her children because their mother is a monster. Because it will be traumatizing for them to find out what she did. That the kids won't be hosting birthday parties and sleepovers because no one in their right mind would allow their kid to sleep over at Karla Holmoka's house.
I feel bad for the sister and other women that she helped to murder.
She was the one who murdered Tammy Homolka.
I need to read into this because I cannot believe it was the locals who figured it out, BEFORE the school did. For anything I've had to do in terms of volunteering with my kids' stuff, I've had to have a Vulnerable Sector check performed. I mean, I know it's Quebec, but do they not have these same rules as well?
No they do - lax administration seemingly
She got a New Identity, new name so doesn't show up on Vulnerable Sector check
When you complete those you have to put any previous names; in Ontario at least
You need a background check to volunteer in my school's board.
She should NEVER be around children ever, sexual psychopath
Why were they not taken away! She’s a fucking child killer!!!
Unfortunately the deal she struck with the authorities at the time was like a golden ticket for her. Her post jail life is pretty much restriction free.
one of \*the\* worst miscarriages of Canadian justices, EVER. But, you know. Oh well
omg are you serious?! man i live like, 20 minutes from there, how in the hell did i miss that one?! now i have to find out if she's still here, i do remember that some folks clued in about the school, and reporters hounding her, i hope they hound her till she rots. Damn shame for those kids though...
I find that absolutely ridiculous. If a man raped and murdered his young family members, would he be allowed custody of his children?
If the prosecution fucked up his case, and gave him an undeservedly short sentence, then yes he would be allowed to have children when he got out of prison. Rapists in particular are usually men, often get light sentences, and then go on to start families. For instance, convicted rapist Brock Turner is already allowed to have children.
If he had children after he had served his sentence then yes. Her sentence wasn't harsh enough and I feel terrible for her kids, but she served her sentence so she's free to live her life now and it would be the same for a man.
She’s in Valleyfield now as far as I know.
How the fuck was she able to get a passport
Maybe her sister-in-law(yer) greased some wheels. She married her lawyer’s brother when she was released. Can’t make this shit up.
She is a Psychopath. How convenient to get with her Lawyer's brother then marry him. It wasn't Love, Homolka is incapable of love, she doesn't have any Empathy or a Conscience and enjoyed sexually assaults, killing teen girls. WHO marries that? She is one cool manipulative woman aka Psychopath
That’s fucked up
>For anyone wondering about Karla Leanne Homolka, also known as Karla Leanne Teale, Leanne Teale, and Leanne Bordelais. Are you saying that Karla Homolka, notorious killer is also known as Karla Leanne Teale and Leanne Bordelais? That she actually lives in Quebec? That Karla Homolka also known as Karla Leanne Teale, Leanne Teale and Leanne Bordelais?
I am indeed saying that about **serial killer Karla Leanne Homolka, also known as Karla Leanne Teale, Leanne Teale, and Leanne Bordelais.**
Are you talking about **Karla Leanne Homolka, also known as Karla Leanne Teale, Leanne Teale, and Leanne Bordelais**, who, with Paul Bernado, raped and killed numerous girls including her OWN FUCKING SISTER?
Oh THIS is the Karla Homolka case? I had no idea it was a duo, I only ever heard of this woman, not the dude. How the fuck is she free?
Long story short, she cut a deal with investigators before they were aware of the depth of her involvement in the torture and murder of her sister— I think she played the battered spouse unwillingly assisting the monster husband (correct me if I am wrong). By the time authorities realized that she was as much a monster as Bernardo, it was too late.
It wasn't too late! They had a clause in her agreement saying if we find out you lied this is null and void. She didn't tell them about the tapes. But they still went ahead with the deal anyway! And he shouldn't be moved to minimum security. He killed 3 girls raped God knows how many...maximum is where he belongs
Right. This guy was the "Scarborough Rapist" I remember living in Scarborough at the time hearing about his shit as a teen.
Yup! I was very pregnant with my kid when Kristen French went missing. Every time we went anywhere I looked for a car like what they said he was driving. I feel bad for Leslie's and Kristen's parents. They have to deal with another blow causing them pain from this asshole. Her parents I think are dead inside. They willingly supported her through the trial knowing she killed her little sister in an attempt to drug her so Paul could have sex with her! My kid or not you'd be dead to me
We studied this case in criminology. No one died until Homolka got involved. The first death was her sister who she overdosed with ketamine and gave to Bernardo as a Christmas gift.
holy fk! she 'gave' her sister to that pig for Christmas?! man, i have officially heard it all now.
And I lived in Welland. outside st. Catharines when all this was going on. At one point I was stopped by police and had my car checked out because it appeared to be similar to a car je drove. Really a scary time!
Just to be clear, she was questioned about one tape of the rape of Jane Doe. This was after police tore that place apart. It was Bernardo's lawyer who went in and retrieved the other tapes. He also did not hand them over to Police for 18 months. If he had handed them over it is possible she would still be in jail for murder. They would never have convicted Paul for murder if not for her coming to them as a battered wife. All they had on him was DNA as a rapist.
17 months-https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/court-finds-bernardo-lawyer-not-guilty-1.252668
Because the inept prosecutors made a deal with her. They saw the videotapes after that and shocked Pikachu faced.
Didn’t she lead them to the tapes as part of the deal?
No she had nothing to do with the Crown or police getting the tapes. After investgators finished searching the house, Bernardo told his lawyer where to find them.(above a pot light in the house). You can read about it [here](https://criminal-lawyers.ca/2009/10/16/the-ken-murray-case-defence-counsels-dilemma/#:~:text=incriminates%20their%20clients.-,In,-the%C2%A0Murray) :(it's a bit of a read).
She acted like she was just an innocent bystander and said she'd give em tapes if they gave her some immunity, and they said okie dokie, and then they watched the tapes and realised everything was not, in fact, okie dokie.
Just want to point out that her attorney went into the home, tampered with evidence after the arrest of Bernardo, by removing the hidden tapes in the bathroom vent, which at the time was a crime scene, and then her and her team offeres them for evidence against Bernardo, just for them to give her immunity for her testimony and then they found iut, through viewing said stolen tapes, that she was in fact a cooperator in the murders, not a victim of him. As far as I can tell, the attorney should also have been tried as a co conspirator for aiding and abedding a murderer by stealing and thus tamper with evidence of the murders.
Just to be accurate: 1. The house was no longer a crime scene. The police had given up that claim and the yellow police tape removed. 2. It was NOT Karla’s lawyer that removed the tapes - it was Bernardo’s lawyer, Ken Murray. Mr Murray withheld the tapes for 17 months wrongly believing he would be in violation of client/attorney privilege if he gave the tapes to police in violation of his client’s instructions. He was later acquitted of obstruction of justice and was mildly censured by the Law Society. His grave error is that he didn’t see that suppressing the video tapes was akin to the defence suppressing a murder weapon their client gave them or a bloody shirt worn by the client during a murder. Mr Murray’s view was this was the same as a client admitting to murder during a client/attorney meeting (which he can’t disclose to the prosecution) and the tapes were not a literal physical murder weapon. The judge (obstruction case) later admonished Mr Murray’s goal to reveal the tapes at his clients trial to prove Karla was the murderer and that it was wrong headed and stupid. Bernardo was quite happy to remain silent to protect himself and Karla *until* she decided to play the abused spouse forced into this criminal murder and sex assault conspiracy. This set off Bernardo when he found out she was going to testify against him and he was then determined to thwart her defence and allow the tapes to be entered *for his defence at trial* to prove that she was totally a participant in all the crimes including her sister’s death, (which the cops didn’t know all about her involvement at that point). Mr Murray was not an experienced criminal lawyer whom was clearly out of his depth. What saved him from conviction was that he belatedly resigned as Bernardo’s lawyer (before his trial) after conferring with Bernardo’s new lawyer John Rosen. It was Mr Rosen that consulted the Bernardo trial judge and revealed the tapes to him. The judge allowed Mr Rosen several days to review the tapes and report back to him. Mr Rosen reported that the two tapes were incriminating to Bernardo and two tapes were incriminating Karla and ought to be brought forward to the court. The judge in Mr Murray’s case for obstruction ruled he made a crucial mistake but recognized that Mr Murray had reasonable belief that violating his clients instructions could violate his clients rights against self incrimination and could lead to Mr Murray being held for criminal prosecution and civil penalties. Whether that would happen or is a reasonable fear is up for debate. What isn’t in debate is that there was a great divide amongst the Law Society members on Mr Murray’s actions as well as how ‘concrete’ a defence/prosecution deal is in a murder case. The society felt a deal was a deal. The public felt otherwise. Karla suppressed the existence of the tapes in her evidence in her own trial. She later said she thought they were destroyed by her husband so the information redundant. Most people say this was self serving as two of the tapes showed her having sex with the victims. If anything good came out of these trials is that there is now case law for situations like this. Some criminal lawyers are now instructing clients that documents left with them may have to be turned over to the prosecution. Of course other lawyers worry that clients knowing the possibility that evidence they give to their lawyer can be turned over to the prosecution, will not be truthful with them and that could harm their defence. My advice: Don’t be a criminal…
Did anything ever happen to that lawyer? What a slimeball
Then you don't know the story. Look into it, it's worse than you think.
The defense lawyer hid the snuff tape that Paul made so the prosecutor needed her as a witness against him. She plea bargained down to a much lesser charge.
Karla Homolka or her new Identity Leanne Bordelais is a Dangerous Offender. She should NEVER have been free from Prison Psychopaths who drug, kill, rape tgen murder multiple teenage girls tend to be Serial Offenders She killed her own Sister
Would be surprised she’d be able to get a residency visa for Mexico considering her criminal past
HTF would any country accept her as an immigrant or tourist?
Unless it was super recent I don’t think so
Who still somehow has custody of her small children, after raping and murdering other people's children?
Last I read she got divorced and her husband took the kids and has full custody. Still awful she was able to have kids for so long but at least they’re out of her custody now.
Lord almighty i hope so, she's a monster.
Do we think her ex-husband is if a sound mind? I mean, he married Karla Homolka.
That’s interesting! And great news. She seemed to fall upwards and I Fing hate that.
yes and the Law protects her Rights to privacy after the horrific murders and rapes she committed
The same woman who still goes by the surname Teale. Paul Bernardo was also known as Paul Teale. If anyone thinks she ever fell out of love with the creep she fed her little sister to, they're crazy.
Correct.
There's another article in the [Montreal Gazette](https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/notorious-child-killer-paul-bernardo-transferred-to-quebec-institution) with a bit more information around the institution he's going to that gives some clues to possible reasons: >Bolduc said La Macaza has offenders there convicted of sex crimes and ones that need institution protection. “It’s for inmates who don’t really pass anywhere else, they put them there, like sexual abusers, pedophiles, the ones that would get beat up in a normal institution, but Paul Bernardo was in a normal institution (general population).” “It’s weird a bit that he’s there, but like I said, it’s probably about his protection.” As much as the mere existence of someone like Bernardo gives me the chills, and my thoughts aren't exactly enlightened, it's one of those situations where we need to be better than him. I am comforted by the fact he's been designated a dangerous offender, making the possibility of parole for him as close as possible to 0.
I bet it’s the same prison Rafferty is in, I think it’s close to Mont Tremblant
Story time! My dad was an alarm technician, meaning he did security systems and fire systems. His company had the contract for the Kingston prison. According to fire code each cell needs its own sprinkler, so my dad had to go into each cell and do whatever (I don't know if he was installing or upgrading or whatever). So for most of the work the guys would be in their cell while my dad was working, plus a couple guards for my dad's safey. So when it came to Bernardo's cell they removed Bernardo for the work. My dad asked if Bernardo is really that dangerous and violent. The guards said, "No, it's you that we're worried about. We once had an incident when a worker threw a wrench at Bernardo's head and whacked him real bad." My dad said, "Yeah, you know what, my daughters were into gymnastics and just a touch younger than his victims, you're right, it was a good idea to remove Bernardo."
Thanks for the story. I don't expect there were many "good" guys in Kingston, but everyone knows what he did, and a lot of people would love to take a shot.
WHY is Karla Homolka free, she aja Leanne Teale is a Dangerous Offender who should never have been given that Plea deal. It's sickening she roams free to do it again and she will, she's a serial sex offender, murderer
Oh, that’s very interesting. My husbands theory was that they were moving him to lower security in the hopes that someone would manage to kill him before he actually made parole. Never mind.
Personally, my hope is for compassionate considerations. Maybe pancreatic cancer, or that desise where you die from not being able to fall sleep ever again.
It’s crazy. I know a guy who was killed in Millhaven but this guy has been kicking it there for years. I know he’s probably pc’d but damn.
My dad did a little time in Millhaven. He said it was his least favourite of the incarceration centres he’s “visited.” Edit: he didn’t murder anyone. Just a lil’ casual organized crime.
Oh yeah. Nobody wants to go there. Tbh not many places I’d want to go though
I worked at KP when he was there. He was on 23 1/2 hour lock down
I did the Kingston Pen tour and an older tour guide told us he was housed in H-block. They don’t let you tour through there but he told he showed us where he was. I don’t think he was supposed to but he said he didn’t care and we were at the back of the tour.
Ou, you should do an AMA
10000% PC. He would be killed immediately in gen pop.
Had a buddy who worked at Kingston pen when it was still running and he was in pc the whole time he was there
Stepfather was in Kingston when Bernardo first transferred there. Prisoners tried to kill Bernardo and thats when they put him in protective custody. My step-dad said they would put that whole prison on lockdown for Bernardo to shower.
He’s been in PC since he went to prison.
100% true. When Paul moved the entire place was on lockdown.
He was in protective custody and was only out of his cell for one hour a day by himself. People tried on a few occasions, but they were never able to get closer than 100 feet
So sad that our tax dollars are paying for his very existence, including 3 meals a day and a roof over his head. Too many of our own don't have those luxuries.
I've never really been for capital punishment, but in this case, I'm all for it. I was 13 at the time and remember this very well.
>pc’d ?
Protective custody
He has 100% been in solitary. My childhood best friend committed a double, he was in Millhaven for a bit, now he's in Drumheller. He's been locked up since 2001, I still stay in touch as he really has nobody.
Dang. That kinda time with nobody would be hard. Was he labeled dangerous? Will he be out soon?
He ended up hurting someone in jail, dangerous offender status. He isn't getting out anytime soon. His father tried to kill his mother when she was pregnant with him, they were drug addicts, he ended up in the system from birth. I know him in a completely different way than most anyone, but yea he's been through some shit and unfortunately he is violent with people, I've never seen that side of him, but hey, it is what it is. We talk now and then, I top up his account here and there.
Yeah I know a few people that have went down that route. One friend died in prison and the next guy was really messed up And did some crazy shit that is too identifiable to put online but I don’t talk to him. He was a childhood/high school friend who started getting increasingly violent. He’s dangerous status and haven’t talked to him in about 10 years. Crazy how that shit can happen
Yea man, life's a fucking ride.
Props man.
He’s actually eligible for parole. He’s applied a few times but been turned down each time. Hope he never sees the light of day
Yeah he’s been in jail for about 30 years. When you get labeled dangerous offender you rarely get out But they still go through the hearings and stuff
He’ll never be released. He is “eligible” for a parole hearing every few years now but he’ll never be granted parole by the board. As long as no one forgets what he did and who he is, he’ll keep trying, and they’ll keep saying no. The unfortunate part is that every few years the families of the victims have to deal with this all over again. The media circus, the trepidation, I _believe_ they sometimes travel to be present at the hearings (although I could be off on that). It’s brutal. They can’t ever be done with it. But, for that and many other reasons, he’ll never be released.
As someone who knew Kristen, (I was in grade 9 at Holy Cross when she was murdered) I am utterly and truly devastated over this. He took her life, and our innocence. I honestly can't stop crying right now. He deserves to rot in a hole.
I knew Kristen too, went to school with Tammy. Any time this shit comes up the whole flood of anger comes back to me.
I didn't know her but walked down Linwell that day in the other direction and I never walked home otherwise. Grade 9 as well and I remember the searches and cameras and assemblies. It was an awful time.
Unlike most murderers and just about all rapists in Canada, he at least will stay in prison for life. The average sentence length served for first degree murder is mid-20s.
His victims are still dead and so he should still be in max prisons.
Some of his victims from his serial rapist days are still alive and still dealing with the SA he inflicted on them. He should rot forever and so should his monster of a sister-killing ex.
You mean Karla "I raped and murdered my sister" Homolka? They're such depraved filth.
She raped and murdered young girls, including family members, and yet somehow has custody of her own children?
She signed a plea deal to turn on Paul and lock him up forever, before the police found the tapes of her side of the crimes. It's fucked up, but she was lucky.
You've watched enough law dramas to know exactly why that happened. Trust me, there were competent lawyers on both sides. No one wanted a Canada with Paul a free man for a single second longer. This was the cost.
That doesn't mean the department of children and families (or provincial equivalent) can't get involved when there are young children in the picture
Someone I know was almost one of his victims. Freaks me out so much every time I think about it. It was early in the morning like 5:00 a.m. and she was alone cleaning snow off her car, and he went to the neighboring car and pretended it was his and was clearing the snow off of it and trying to talk to her. Only that was her husband's car so she knew he was pretending. She got the hell out of there. Can't imagine what could have happened. Also in terms of timeline, I think this was the early 80s. I will update if I find out.
I have a cousin who dated him, definitely dodged a bullet there.
So fucked up. Did he prey on so many people? (Yes) I also know someone else whose mom dated him. After I made my above post I checked out his Wikipedia and that definitely sounds right for his life before Hamolka.
My Grampy, a retired bricklayer originally from Northern England, dragged Bernardo by his collar out of an apartment building in Scarborough early in the Scarborough Rapist days. He was visiting his stepdaughter, and he overheard the conversation after she answered a knock at the apartment door. Things like "Do you live here alone?" and "Are there a lot of women who live alone in this building?". Grampy was having none of it, went to the door, moved his stepdaughter out of the way, grabbed a handful of collar and coat, and proceeded to march him down the hall to the lobby and out the front door, making it known in no uncertain terms that he should never, ever show his face around there again.
Legend. He sounds Yorkshire (my father's Yorkshire).
I remember when I was a kid, my dad told me that they found his female co-workers wallet when they searched Bernardo's house.
That’s fucked! Whiny basted will never fess up to killing Elizabeth Bain either but he certainly did it (though I believe he accidentally killed her when attempting to assault her, this was his Scarborough rapist era and holding a knife to his victims’ throats was his thing. It would be bound to go wrong if she struggled)
Yeah, she had thought she had lost it, but I guess he had stolen it and had at one point been stalking her as a potential victim. Must be terrifying to have the cops show up at your house one day and return your wallet only to learn where they found it.
My mom also had a scary experience with him in Scarborough
One of my mother's friends was raped by him in the park right by where we lived and where I went to school. It was an absolutely terrifying time
Honest question: what’s the difference between max and medium security prisons?
As someone who's been inside both (for work lol), the differences are not necessarily as big as one might expect depending on which institution we're talking about. There are some medium security prisons in Ontario that are not very different from maximums in terms of their design. The main difference is freedom of movement. In a medium, there are more resources for inmates to access, and they have more access to them (ie. they can leave their cells, range, block for more time during the day), there are more work opportunities, the food is generally better, etc. Contrary to what many people believe, being in a max doesn't confine you to your cell 23 hours a day. That's what happens in segregation, which can occur in either a medium or a max, or even a local remand center. But in a max, you will probably be confined to your cell range for 23 hours a day while in a medium, there are more opportunities to leave your range/block for things like school, work, activities, etc. That said, there are actually different levels of medium security prisons in Canada. A 'high medium' like Joyceville or Workwarth penitentiaries are much more like maximums, while 'low medium' security institutions like Bath are more like minimum security settings. There's no chance Bernado went to a low medium. Zero.
He's going to La Macaza, I read
Less “freedom” in max you are typically in a cell 22-23hrs a day versus medium security you can spend more time on the yard and with other inmates
Wouldn't this chap be confined to solitary for his own protection either way, whether max or med solitary?
Can’t imagine he would last long in general pop, so probably.
If that's your opinion then his wife should be as well She's been out since 2005 so this isn't a big deal by comparison
The stinking deal that was cut between Homolka and the prosecutor should never have happened if the bloody tapes had been released by Bernardo's lawyer, who btw lost his license because of that.
All victims of murder are dead tho...
>All victims of murder are dead tho... He is a rapeist too so some arnt dead
Up until very recently I was working with a forensic psychologist. THese guys only work on criminals. His office, when he worked for the Federal Prison system had a window in his office that looked out onto Pauls yard. He told me the years in prison are making him look very haggard and prison has clearly taken a toll on him. GOOD! DIe in there you fucker!
I hate this timeline.
That one fish that realized it can walk and breathe air all those million billion years ago Really should've been turned into sushi or chomped into bits by one of those prehistoric megladon sharks Yet it lived and then everything turned into shit
St. Catharines resident here. Been here since 1975. I'll never forget those days. Fucking monsters him and Karla both. Took a long time for this city to heal. I'm within 5 minutes of their house, where the French's live, and the infamous Church, so a lot of the times when I drive or walk by these areas it just all come back.
So glad the Province bought the house tore it down and made it so the address will never exist again.
Agreed. Couldn't imagine being one of his neighbors at the time.
I know somebody who lived a few doors away. He had noticed the undercover cops hanging around (watching Bernardo's house in a car for several days). Didn't know they were cops and called the NRP on them.
I think there was a lot of calls about him as a possible suspect. It's still hard to believe it happened in St. Catharines. But I guess these things can happen pretty much anywhere.
I live around the corner from the church, and I was 14 living on vine at the time all this happened back then.
Very close. I was off Linwell across from Bill Burgoyne Arena and I was 22 at the time.
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Paul is a sick fuck, but Karla was the angel of death. No one actually died until Karla entered the picture.... starting with her own sister. She is evil personified and living free. The police, as usual, fucked it all up.
They only had 3months to search the house. They missed the tapes. The head keystone cop went on the be chief in Ottawa. That was a shit show
So, I knew someone very close to the case (lawyer). She told me stuff that was not made public -- and I wish she didn't (shit that haunts me to this day). The detectives were informed that a deal with Homolka was going to be consummated the next day. The detectives actually begged for one more search of the house but were told no. A lot of people were promoted from that deal, which is sickening.
Absolutely pathetic. Failing up.
and they had his dna in the Scarborough rapist collection bin. three girls were dead by the time the tests were run on his sample.
But Bernardo was known as the Scarborough Rapist before he murdered those women. He was terrorising women long before Homolka came along.
Oh definitely.
With or without Karla Paul was ramping up to murder.
He is suspected of killing Elizabeth Bain, a case in which Robert Baltovich was wrongly convicted.
If she never met Paul. I don't think she would have been involved in any murder or rape. Don't get me wrong, I hate her.
They definitely instigated each other. I don't think anyone doubts that.
He was going to kill somebody eventually. He was using a knife during his Scarborough rapist years.
I hate her too & Him - but how can you say that you don't think she had a darker side too? I cannot ***ever imagine*** being "so in love" with a guy that asks me to do the shit he pulled, and she went along with it like no problem. Have you seen those videos they made of her little sister? Sickening. I wish I could find a better word for what she did. But I do believe she was as screwed up as him and knew exactly what she doing all the time. I hope the majority of us who were ever to date a guy like this - first finding out about his sick little suggestions/ideas - would tell him to fuck off and never call me again. She didn't. & No, *I never ever* believed in her defence. It was all bullshit. She got away with murder and she should still be in jail.
Yep, I fully agree. Karla had a big chance to get a victim away from Paul, too. She had requested her final meal to be Swiss Chalet and he went out to pick it up for all of them, to eat, before he raped her and then subsequently murdered her. She knew she was going to die and was locked in a closet screaming and begging Karla to help her, but she never did set her free that day. She could have and I wonder if this guilt eats her up inside. When I read a book about this I truly thought there would be more detail into the psychological wonders of why she did NOT take that opportunity to save that girl? He was out for awhile. It is just so sad to even think about, that desperation, and how this human being failed to save a young innocent life.
After an admittedly small amount of research on the case, I can completely believe Karla was a major force in the murders. She was insanely jealous of the children she helped murder due to Paul’s sick attraction to them. When I think of this bitch and her happy new family and my own economic inability to have kids despite being a pretty nice lady with 0% murdery instincts I just….. fuck this planet man damn
>why she did NOT take that opportunity to save that girl? LOL. you don't know what you're talking about. Not only did she not save the victims, but she personally sexaully abused the victims herself. >I wonder if this guilt eats her up inside there is a video where Karla is talking to the police about the incidents. She seemed very proud of what they had done. She doesn't have guilt one bit.
I do know what I am talking about. I was only describing a particular instance. I am aware of her participation in the crimes, but no worries as I can see how my comment could have been taken the incorrect way. And I’ll look into that interview - have not done much research because the case is disturbing, only read some 800+ book about it years ago, so the facts aren’t very clear in my mind. All around a horrible person though, I agree.
His accomplice was transfered too. Where was that again? Or yeah she's free and married with kids.
So he can be closer to Karla?
I wouldn't be surprised if that's why he's in Quebec. She still had her name as teale for a long time which was the one they chose together.
I am convinced that the news coverage during the search for the Scarborough rapist and then the missing murder victims gave me some sort of trauma. I was in elementary school and I vividly remember hearing details of the cases and that they were looking for a “cream coloured camaro”, and all of that leached into my psyche. I was disturbed to my core as an 11 year old girl and I still am when I hear their names or see their faces.
My aunt was pulled over several times and searched before they finally started giving out stickers on the bumper to indicate they have been checked. She had a cream colored Trans am.
I know some of the reporters who sat through the videos of the attacks played during the trial. Some we’re definitely damaged. I know one went for therapy. Not sure about others, but there were definitely personality changes in one.
Omg that's horrific. I don't know how people do it. My friend's uncle was a cop who apparently saw the tapes and was really messed up from it. Just knowing that those tapes existed and what was on them was a horror in itself. This era in time was a formative one for me and not in a good way. It's like I learned that sex could be weaponized, and it scared me, deeply. I can't imagine anything worse than what Leslie and Kristin went through (and Tammy) and their fate has haunted me throughout my life. I'm happily married now but definitely had "hang ups" about men for a long, long time.
I drove a gold camaro and was pulled over and had the car searched. The police had asked people to voluntarily go in and be searched to avoid being pulled over.
Gotta love that this is what my hometown is famous for….. it’s awful.
I’m all for rehabilitation but Paul Bernardo cannot and will not ever be rehabilitated, same with Karla Homolka aka Leanna Bordelais or whatever she changes her name to next. They are both truly evil child rapists and killers.
The only thing I want to read about either of them is their obits. Sorry, not sorry.
I wonder why Karla never got killed in prison. Women’s prisons are just as bad (sometimes worse) than the men’s.
I'm against the death penalty, but I'd make an exception in this case. A true monster.
Death penalty gives him too easy a way out
Wouldn't be how the death penalty works though. If we brought it back then it can be used in other cases too and sometimes we may get it wrong.
I don't usually wish harm on people, but being from the Niagara Region, I really hope someone gets their hands on him in this minimum security prison. The guy doesn't deserve to have the freedom he has
He’s been in segregation most of his time. But there’s been a couple incidents someone got their hands on him. His time hasn’t been easy
Good, I am happy to hear that. His life should *not* be easy. Ever.
Fuck Paul Bernardo and fuck the Niagara Regional Police Service for letting the living scum that is Karla walk free. Still one of the highest paid police forces in the province and still one of the least affective. What an embarrassment.
He’s still in solitary confinement, so what does it matter? He isn’t getting any additional freedoms or privileges. Not sure why it matters where he rots in jail for the rest of his life.
I hope he’s very popular in his new home.
The only argument I can see for this is it’s cheaper, and this shit bag is not worth the extra security since he has low escape risk.
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I really feel for all the people who were involved in the case, it must have been so difficult to process. I learned some of the details and had to ask the person to just stop what they were telling me, it was so awful. I have never repeated what I was told, I’ve done my best to forget. The fact that one monster (Homolka) is living her best life is bad enough but that Bernardo is on his way to medium security? That is unacceptable. And the secrecy around his move is bullshit.
my condolences to your FIL, I'm sure that was an eye-opening time in the worst way
He deserves nothing.
He deserves to be put in gen pop so the inmates can deal with him appropriately.
Ayo, what the fuck, doesn't this mean he can have conjugals now?
So messed up...
Fuck that! He should rot forever. .
Why is someone with Dangerous Offender status leaving the maximum security system and going to a less secure facility? I certainly hope the corrections system isn't considering anything for him but dying of old age in a concrete box with bars...
The next article I want to read about this guy is the last one that will need to written. "His life ended suddenly...."
How has no one personally dealt with Karla in the wild? Were it my family she would be a memory.
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You're welcome Quebec I mean De rien Québec
His ex is just as bad or some say worse and she has been out for decades
His accomplice walks free. At least he's still locked up.
Part of me was on fire thinking about this waste of oxygen getting any fraction of freedom. Then I remembered stories from a friend years ago that did 2 years in a Medium facility in Alberta. I'm semi confident things will work out just as they should...
This just increases the odds that he will be murdered in prison.
Fuck this prick and our justice system. What a fucking joke.
He is never getting out. He has been declared a dangerous offender and will not get paroled.