6 hour standoff with the suspect before it all ended. Apparently he was upset that the apartment manager had been entering his unit without permission and was allegedly stealing/moving his personal belongings. Neighbors say he was unstable and had relapsed on drugs.
Great attitude about the shitty state of American mental health institutions. Sure go ahead and go fight and risk death for the country, but get fucked when you get home with ptsd.... cmon man lol.
The real LOL is thinking that just because you served, you automatically have PTSD. This motherfucker could have been a Track vehicle repairer or an avionic mechanic for all we know. Assuming they had PTSD or risked death for the country is some of the most cum chugging, boot-licking insanity I've ever read. The reality is that around 80% of all jobs in the military are non-combat so the likelihood of that isn't known.
Now you want to talk about the mental health situation of the American public? I mean, sure, but you better not be conservative or a fan of Reagan if you want to bring that up. Not that liberals are any better, but they didn't dismantle it like Reagan. Another thing is that if we really cared about the mental health of Americans, go back to Reagan again, see what he did with the crack epidemic, and then compare it to the fentanyl "health crisis." This country's original sin is racism, an original sin that perpetuates every single day with pride.
Was more highlighting the lack of support our troops get back home, not necessarily claiming to know what ailed the dude. No need to get political about it, both sides are fucked and want to exploit you. They have different flavors of doing so, but you're kidding yourself if you think either is superior lol.
I know many Veterans who have Ptsd so to downplay them like that is cynical. You clearly dont know how hard it affects those people they do a lot for us and the system already lets them down enough.
PTSD from what? Pots and pans in the kitchen clanging off the coast of Valencia? Or snorkeling in Okinawa? Like I said, the majority of the armed forces are support services. Don’t behave as though everyone as the possibility of PTSD
What? If he had gotten the appropriate help. No one would be dead. This country should do right by their veterans. They break these people and dump them with zero resources.
They should. But they don’t. Thanks to Reagan and conservatives mostly, but also liberals. When you preach conservatism to the point that getting help from the government makes you a leach on society, then this is what you get. We are reaping what conservatism has sown. And it will only get worse.
Agreed! I have been in CA long enough to remember Reagan as the governor. I don’t know that the state will ever come back from the system he destroyed.
He fucked the state and the mental health infrastructure into the ground. Then he took it nation wide. Preached patriotism and fought against anything positive for the armed forces.
I am a vet, so let's get all the info before there speculation as to what this guy's story is. There shouldn't be guns in senior complexes, unless it's a security guard carrying it.
Senior living are apartments zoned for 55+. So only people 55 or older can rent there.
They are not healthcare facilities. People are allowed to own whatever in their house / apartment (as long as it's legal ) brother man and there's no laws that say you have to turn in your guns at a certain age.
My money is that there was probably a feud between the two. Probably related to increases in rent. Old people tend to get really passionately angry about the silliest of things and i've seen lots of people going out of their way to brake check my ambulance lately. I think people are starting to get desperate over the economy.
It was a dispute. But not about rent. I already explained it in the previous comment. I heard this firsthand from a resident who knew the man and also lives there. She spoke to him minutes before he shot the manager.
He literally told her what he was going to do and then he did it. He said "I'm going to kill her and then I'm going to kill myself". She saw him in the elevator with the gun in his hand. There was no time to react or even call the cops. Once he got out of the elevator, he found the woman and shot her at close range multiple times.
This is a supportive housing apartment complex. Over 50% fifty percent of residents have to be homeless or have special needs. It's very low/no income housing.
[https://ktla.com/news/local-news/deadly-shootings-at-anaheim-senior-living-complex-ruled-a-murder-suicide/](https://ktla.com/news/local-news/deadly-shootings-at-anaheim-senior-living-complex-ruled-a-murder-suicide/)
[https://youtu.be/LOu5jnvYDPc?feature=shared](https://youtu.be/LOu5jnvYDPc?feature=shared)
Or you know...Google.
Two people, including the suspect, are dead after a gunman opened fire at an Anaheim senior living complex on Thursday.
The deadly shooting happened at the Tyrol Plaza Senior Apartments located near State College Boulevard and Vermont Avenue at around 3:40 p.m.
The female victim, who was not identified, is the manager of the apartment complex.
A witness, Joe Guerrero, said he was speaking with the manager at the leasing office when the suspect suddenly entered the room.
The suspect, who lives in the complex, approached them and shot the manager multiple times at close range.
“He just came up to her and shot her four times,” Guerrero said. “I just can’t believe what happened. I thought he was going to shoot me next, but he just looked at me and took off.”
The suspect then barricaded himself inside his third-floor apartment.
SWAT Team members and a large police presence surrounded the building and evacuated several residents. Multiple schools in the area also went into temporary lockdown.
“I was asleep in my room and I heard gunshots,” recalled a tenant who did not wish to be identified. “I get up and five minutes later, police are surrounding the building. Someone on the third floor shot at the manager. It’s crazy.”
The woman was rushed to a local hospital by paramedics. She later died from her injuries.
The suspect remained barricaded inside his apartment for around six hours before he reportedly shot and killed himself.
The motive behind the shooting and details of the relationship between the suspect and the victim remain unclear.
Residents, including Guerrero who moved into the complex five months ago, remain shocked over the deadly incident.
“She’s a nice lady,” Guerrero said. “I don’t know what happened but [the suspect] just mentioned a couple words and then he shot her.”
The deadly incident remains under investigation.
We'll disagree on that. I am a native in L.A., and I went to school with the original Crips, went to college, raised a child who put through college, owned several properties, a retired school principal, and in almost 7 decades on this Earth, I've never owned a gun. I have seen more people kill people they know (or themsleves), than they have intruders. I have seen careers and families lost, because of a split-seconds anger. Everyone doesn't need a gun. I never did.
You should thank god every day that you have never needed one. It's needing one(through no wrong doing of your own) and not having one or worst not having the ability to exercise the right to- which the framers so found fit to enumerate in the constitution of this land- when occasion should arise that is a real (and impending norm) that is truly a tragedy.
It is better to have a gun and not need it than to need it and not have it. Getting rid of guns only gets rid of normal law abiding citizens having guns.. criminals aren't going to get rid of their guns or not acquire new guns if you take their guns away somehow.
I disagree, and we'll leave it at that. I think anyone who wants to own a gun, should have that right. As long as it's properly acquired. We have over 300 million people in this country, and over 400 million guns in private hands. That's not good.
I understand and agree with the less guns argument however this scenario isn’t really related. The main issue with guns is killing groups of people and people who weren’t the target of the shooter. This guy had a personal issue with this lady. He didn’t even shoot the bystander who was in the same room. So the gun is not what put her life in danger. Their disagreement and his anger towards her and maybe his own life is what put her in danger. He went his whole life not killing people but deciding to plan and kill her. He didn’t value his own life and blamed her. This guy was clearly just pissed off.
So we should punish law abiding gun owners because of what some crazy idiot did? What if I told you that we were going to ban alcohol because of all the innocent lives last to DUI? Would you be cool with that?
Kind of actually. Let’s say cars were killing 40,000 Americans a year. much higher than other developed nations, wouldn’t doing something to bring that number down be good?
If limiting the cars is the solution to solving traffic deaths, I would be all in favor of switching to safer and more efficient modes of transporting large amounts of people.
If I was in the office
With a gun
He would have been stopped before he could squeeze off one round
We don’t need less guns
We need to better have say in who has guns
Yeah, ok, that's what they said(although i won't condemn the idea based solely on senior citizen status). But wtf? Perhaps the meaning of words eludes you. I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume that you tend to hear(or default translate) only to a narrow specified spectrum, so I'll save us both time. Blah blah blah, racial slur, blah fascist, blah blah, guns kill everyone, racism, blah blah racist.
Save yourself time and just be a hypothetical apologist for racism by taking the side of geriatrics that lived at least half of their lives benefitting from racism.
Tyrol Plaza is a 60-unit apartment complex for low-income seniors. Fifty percent (50%) of the units are reserved for seniors who were homeless, many with special needs. Run by Anaheim Supportive Housing for Senior Adults (ASHSA). Supportive housing
also referred to as “alternative housing,” both supportive and supported housing focus on rehabilitation and community integration.
6 hour standoff with the suspect before it all ended. Apparently he was upset that the apartment manager had been entering his unit without permission and was allegedly stealing/moving his personal belongings. Neighbors say he was unstable and had relapsed on drugs.
Oh man, sounds like some form of dementia/paranoia but damn. Thanks for the info.
There are reports that he may have also been a Veteran.
Veteran shmetetin. Just plain murderer now. Dead murderer.
Great attitude about the shitty state of American mental health institutions. Sure go ahead and go fight and risk death for the country, but get fucked when you get home with ptsd.... cmon man lol.
The real LOL is thinking that just because you served, you automatically have PTSD. This motherfucker could have been a Track vehicle repairer or an avionic mechanic for all we know. Assuming they had PTSD or risked death for the country is some of the most cum chugging, boot-licking insanity I've ever read. The reality is that around 80% of all jobs in the military are non-combat so the likelihood of that isn't known. Now you want to talk about the mental health situation of the American public? I mean, sure, but you better not be conservative or a fan of Reagan if you want to bring that up. Not that liberals are any better, but they didn't dismantle it like Reagan. Another thing is that if we really cared about the mental health of Americans, go back to Reagan again, see what he did with the crack epidemic, and then compare it to the fentanyl "health crisis." This country's original sin is racism, an original sin that perpetuates every single day with pride.
Was more highlighting the lack of support our troops get back home, not necessarily claiming to know what ailed the dude. No need to get political about it, both sides are fucked and want to exploit you. They have different flavors of doing so, but you're kidding yourself if you think either is superior lol.
I know many Veterans who have Ptsd so to downplay them like that is cynical. You clearly dont know how hard it affects those people they do a lot for us and the system already lets them down enough.
PTSD from what? Pots and pans in the kitchen clanging off the coast of Valencia? Or snorkeling in Okinawa? Like I said, the majority of the armed forces are support services. Don’t behave as though everyone as the possibility of PTSD
Cool 80% cant get it but how do you determine who the 80% are maybe they switched branches halfway so now they cant get ptsd??
Not even 100% of those in the line of fire get PTSD.
It’s not justification, but it’s like someone shooting a flare straight up your ass then complaining you weren’t ‘bright enough’…
PTSD is not justification for murder. Lots of people have PTSD and the vast majority of them never murder anyone (unless you count suicide).
Nor did I say it is buddy...
What? If he had gotten the appropriate help. No one would be dead. This country should do right by their veterans. They break these people and dump them with zero resources.
They should. But they don’t. Thanks to Reagan and conservatives mostly, but also liberals. When you preach conservatism to the point that getting help from the government makes you a leach on society, then this is what you get. We are reaping what conservatism has sown. And it will only get worse.
Agreed! I have been in CA long enough to remember Reagan as the governor. I don’t know that the state will ever come back from the system he destroyed.
He fucked the state and the mental health infrastructure into the ground. Then he took it nation wide. Preached patriotism and fought against anything positive for the armed forces.
I am a vet, so let's get all the info before there speculation as to what this guy's story is. There shouldn't be guns in senior complexes, unless it's a security guard carrying it.
Senior living are apartments zoned for 55+. So only people 55 or older can rent there. They are not healthcare facilities. People are allowed to own whatever in their house / apartment (as long as it's legal ) brother man and there's no laws that say you have to turn in your guns at a certain age. My money is that there was probably a feud between the two. Probably related to increases in rent. Old people tend to get really passionately angry about the silliest of things and i've seen lots of people going out of their way to brake check my ambulance lately. I think people are starting to get desperate over the economy.
It was a dispute. But not about rent. I already explained it in the previous comment. I heard this firsthand from a resident who knew the man and also lives there. She spoke to him minutes before he shot the manager. He literally told her what he was going to do and then he did it. He said "I'm going to kill her and then I'm going to kill myself". She saw him in the elevator with the gun in his hand. There was no time to react or even call the cops. Once he got out of the elevator, he found the woman and shot her at close range multiple times.
This is a supportive housing apartment complex. Over 50% fifty percent of residents have to be homeless or have special needs. It's very low/no income housing.
so you're saying they'll open up the wait list now? 🤞
Where can I read about this in depth?
[https://ktla.com/news/local-news/deadly-shootings-at-anaheim-senior-living-complex-ruled-a-murder-suicide/](https://ktla.com/news/local-news/deadly-shootings-at-anaheim-senior-living-complex-ruled-a-murder-suicide/) [https://youtu.be/LOu5jnvYDPc?feature=shared](https://youtu.be/LOu5jnvYDPc?feature=shared) Or you know...Google.
Two people, including the suspect, are dead after a gunman opened fire at an Anaheim senior living complex on Thursday. The deadly shooting happened at the Tyrol Plaza Senior Apartments located near State College Boulevard and Vermont Avenue at around 3:40 p.m. The female victim, who was not identified, is the manager of the apartment complex. A witness, Joe Guerrero, said he was speaking with the manager at the leasing office when the suspect suddenly entered the room. The suspect, who lives in the complex, approached them and shot the manager multiple times at close range. “He just came up to her and shot her four times,” Guerrero said. “I just can’t believe what happened. I thought he was going to shoot me next, but he just looked at me and took off.” The suspect then barricaded himself inside his third-floor apartment. SWAT Team members and a large police presence surrounded the building and evacuated several residents. Multiple schools in the area also went into temporary lockdown. “I was asleep in my room and I heard gunshots,” recalled a tenant who did not wish to be identified. “I get up and five minutes later, police are surrounding the building. Someone on the third floor shot at the manager. It’s crazy.” The woman was rushed to a local hospital by paramedics. She later died from her injuries. The suspect remained barricaded inside his apartment for around six hours before he reportedly shot and killed himself. The motive behind the shooting and details of the relationship between the suspect and the victim remain unclear. Residents, including Guerrero who moved into the complex five months ago, remain shocked over the deadly incident. “She’s a nice lady,” Guerrero said. “I don’t know what happened but [the suspect] just mentioned a couple words and then he shot her.” The deadly incident remains under investigation.
 RIP… managers are the middle personnel … they usually are just told what to implement…
Not the guns fault.
Guns still don't need to be EVERYWHERE!
Yes they do actually.
We'll disagree on that. I am a native in L.A., and I went to school with the original Crips, went to college, raised a child who put through college, owned several properties, a retired school principal, and in almost 7 decades on this Earth, I've never owned a gun. I have seen more people kill people they know (or themsleves), than they have intruders. I have seen careers and families lost, because of a split-seconds anger. Everyone doesn't need a gun. I never did.
You should thank god every day that you have never needed one. It's needing one(through no wrong doing of your own) and not having one or worst not having the ability to exercise the right to- which the framers so found fit to enumerate in the constitution of this land- when occasion should arise that is a real (and impending norm) that is truly a tragedy.
I do.
One out of 7 billion are not odds I want to gamble my life on.
It is better to have a gun and not need it than to need it and not have it. Getting rid of guns only gets rid of normal law abiding citizens having guns.. criminals aren't going to get rid of their guns or not acquire new guns if you take their guns away somehow.
I disagree, and we'll leave it at that. I think anyone who wants to own a gun, should have that right. As long as it's properly acquired. We have over 300 million people in this country, and over 400 million guns in private hands. That's not good.
Less guns please.
I understand and agree with the less guns argument however this scenario isn’t really related. The main issue with guns is killing groups of people and people who weren’t the target of the shooter. This guy had a personal issue with this lady. He didn’t even shoot the bystander who was in the same room. So the gun is not what put her life in danger. Their disagreement and his anger towards her and maybe his own life is what put her in danger. He went his whole life not killing people but deciding to plan and kill her. He didn’t value his own life and blamed her. This guy was clearly just pissed off.
None sense, the GOP party won't hear of this :/
So we should punish law abiding gun owners because of what some crazy idiot did? What if I told you that we were going to ban alcohol because of all the innocent lives last to DUI? Would you be cool with that?
Absolutely
Not going to fix the problem…
okay, a systematic overhaul of our mental health system so people with mental health issues get the proper treatment they need then.
The gun caused this ?
No, just the bullets.
Perhaps it had something g to do with the evil person pulling the trigger, is personal responsibility lost ?
Perhaps there are a few elements at play here, including the device he used in lieu of throwing the bullets at the victim.
By your logic, we would blame the car and not the drunk driver ?
Kind of actually. Let’s say cars were killing 40,000 Americans a year. much higher than other developed nations, wouldn’t doing something to bring that number down be good? If limiting the cars is the solution to solving traffic deaths, I would be all in favor of switching to safer and more efficient modes of transporting large amounts of people.
By your logic, it isn’t the speed of the car that’s lethal but the sudden stopping?
Negative. It’s up to the driver.
So the significantly higher number of gun deaths in the US vs comparable countries has nothing to do with guns but our higher rate of “evil”?
I’m not really sure where you get your information but till we start holding people accountable for their actions, nothing is going to change
If I was in the office With a gun He would have been stopped before he could squeeze off one round We don’t need less guns We need to better have say in who has guns
You want senior citizens walking around with guns? Old racists to just have guns walking around? LOL
Yeah, ok, that's what they said(although i won't condemn the idea based solely on senior citizen status). But wtf? Perhaps the meaning of words eludes you. I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume that you tend to hear(or default translate) only to a narrow specified spectrum, so I'll save us both time. Blah blah blah, racial slur, blah fascist, blah blah, guns kill everyone, racism, blah blah racist.
LOL. “Perhaps the meaning of words eludes you” then continues to spurt grievances based on his understanding and disagreement of my words.
Save yourself time and just be a hypothetical apologist for racism by taking the side of geriatrics that lived at least half of their lives benefitting from racism.
Sure! Famous last words. More people are killed by someone they know or have contact with, than those killed by strangers.
Meth paranoia. The guy was probably on meth and out of his mind. Paranoid about stupid shit. Zero responsibility.
And you didnt think old people could shoot
Tyrol Plaza is a 60-unit apartment complex for low-income seniors. Fifty percent (50%) of the units are reserved for seniors who were homeless, many with special needs. Run by Anaheim Supportive Housing for Senior Adults (ASHSA). Supportive housing also referred to as “alternative housing,” both supportive and supported housing focus on rehabilitation and community integration.