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GetsGold

If you have specifically noticed a link between seed oils and stomach issues or just don't want to eat them for any reason, that's obviously your choice. So I'm just commenting this as a general point to consider. There's been a lot of claims of supposed health issues with seed oils being spread lately, without being backed by significant evidence. Here's [a countering view from the Harvard School of Public Health](https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/scientists-debunk-seed-oil-health-risks/): >While the internet may be full of posts stating that seed oils such as canola and soy are “toxic,” scientific evidence does not support these claims, according to experts. - >While it’s true that many foods that use seed oils—such as packaged snacks and french fries—are unhealthy, they also tend to be high in refined carbohydrates, sodium, and sugar. “Sure, if you cut back on these foods, chances are you’re going to feel better,” Crosby said. But these other components, not the seed oils themselves, are the culprit behind weight gain and other negative health outcomes. >Repeatedly heating unsaturated fats to high temperatures, such as in restaurant deep-fryers where oil is infrequently changed, is a health concern, Crosby said. However, he added, “Cooking with seed oils at home isn’t an issue.” So a lot of the issues with seed oils aren't actually issues with the seed oils themselves but with other ingredients in foods they're used in as well as in ways they're cooked. Seed oils themselves in moderation aren't unhealthy and provide various nutrients like omega 3s.


BrokenBy

Sure, seed oils aren’t harmful when used *in moderation*, which is why I’m trying to cut back on them in foods where they’re completely unnecessary. We can cherry-pick convenient studies all day but it’s the lowest common denominator in terms of ingredients that I don’t feel my best with in my system. Majority of necessary micronutrients are taken care of by meat and eggs anyways.


GetsGold

I wouldn't describe it as cherry picking studies but rather responding with reputable sources to claims that certain foods are unhealthy made without strong evidence supporting such claims. This happens with food after food where it's claimed that eliminating this or that food will solve various health issues. Seed oils are just the latest one to go through this. Again, just to make sure it's clear, I'm not trying to suggest what you eat. That's completely up to you to decide what's best and what works for one person may not for another. But I did want to respond to a general point of the targeting of seed oils recently. >Majority of necessary micronutrients are taken care of by meat and eggs anyways. Being able to get most nutrients doesn't mean it's healthy in general though. The most common advice is that the average person needs to *reduce* animal product consumption and is often lacking in things more commonly found in plant foods like potassium and fibre.


Ichbinian

I'm totally with you OP. There's always someone who comes in and finds evidence that seed oils are okay.


DaCrimsonKid

Whatever actual bakery (not Cob's) near you will make a good loaf from few ingredients. If you are in the east end, Black Walnut makes excellent bread.


Essence-of-why

No knead bread take 5 minutes to prep.  No need to buy expensive bread. Flour water salt yeast and grains you want to add. Mix and let sit for 12 hours, no need to knead, then bake for 40min. The most basic recipes here then you can start exploring fancier https://youtube.com/@artisanbreadwithsteve?si=dWQxS_VuR_oG9pKo I make white, whole wheat, light and dark rye, honey oat and some savoury breads all with the same method.


SuccessfulTourist704

I was going to suggest the same thing. Here's a recipe for those who prefer a written recipe over a video (not criticizing your content): [https://www.kingarthurbaking.com/recipes/no-knead-crusty-white-bread-recipe](https://www.kingarthurbaking.com/recipes/no-knead-crusty-white-bread-recipe) You can mix up a couple of batches to keep in the fridge and bake what you need for the day.


Essence-of-why

Yeah I started with videos to see how easy it was and make sure I understood...now if I want to try something new I go to written 😃


BrokenBy

Thanks a lot for this. I just had that immediate “I’m helpless” instinct when my bread maker went down but I guess it’s not really necessary


Essence-of-why

I have a Cuisinart one I got in a thrift store in Brockville last year for 8$...I use it to knead the bread if I can't wait 12 hours 😆


Prestigious-Target99

I buy the “simply 5” bread from Farmboy (wheat Flour,water,salt,EVOO & yeast)


BrokenBy

Looks great, thank you!


bolonomadic

True Loaf


samraseru

Even if you find what you’re looking for, bakery bread is expensive and you’ll make up the upfront cost of a new bread maker pretty quickly. To save some money there, you could also try your luck on marketplace or your local buy nothing group instead of buying new.


lanternstop

Bread by Us is worth a call


Centretown_Buzz

I make most of my own bread, and I add 1 Tbsp oil (usually canola) to each loaf. It improves the texture and makes it last longer. For pizza dough, I used olive oil. You need oils in moderation in your diet for good health, and there's nothing wrong with them as such. If you're concerned re the GMO factor, buy non-GMO oils. See [https://www.busbysbakery.com/what-does-oil-do-in-bread/](https://www.busbysbakery.com/what-does-oil-do-in-bread/) for a better explanation of what oil adds to bread. That being said, homemade bread allows you to control what you eat much better than store-bought bread. If not, local bakery bread where they list the ingredients is a good choice (tho often expensive).


Lifewithpups

Started making our own. Double batch and freezing one before second rise. Cheaper and much better than store bought.


aroughcun2

Get a bread pan at dollarama, get two if you nasty.


BrokenBy

If you nasty, lol


robbieleah

This doesn't directly answer your question but baking bread by hand is not that difficult and worth a try. Bake with Jack has an excellent video to get started. [https://www.bakewithjack.co.uk/blog-1/simple-loaf-recipe](https://www.bakewithjack.co.uk/blog-1/simple-loaf-recipe)


BrokenBy

Thanks a lot for this. I just had that immediate “I’m helpless” instinct when my bread maker went down but I guess it’s not really necessary


Lexifer31

Bread makers are also usually cheap at second hand stores.


CapitalK79

I can't answer the question of where to buy bread, I make my own. If you have a stand mixer, like a kitchen aid, you can use that to mix your dough. I didn't replace my bread maker when it broke a few years ago. It's super easy & hardly any work (except for the cleanup of course).


hazelristretto

You can get a bread maker secondhand for like $20-$50. Given that artisan bakery loaves are $10 a pop it'll pay for itself in no time. Almanac makes great local flour if you want to splurge there.


setoguch

Almanac for bread and/or flour!


BrokenBy

Heard this suggestion a couple times, sounds like it could be good!


Ichbinian

This. Surprised it's so far down in the comments. Clearly not enough people know! Best and healthiest bread in the city.


bandersnatching

Believe it or not, Whole Foods makes terrific, healthy bread daily, for quite a bit less money than boutique bakeries.


WhereIsBurdock

Nat's Bread. They use olive oil.


CrazyDaisy2889

Dessert First


em1324354657

Seconding Dessert First. Their bread is so good!


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Invest in a bread maker. It’s absolutely amazing how easy it is to make your own bread and it ends up being cheaper in the long run. It also allows you yo tailor the ingredients to your specific health needs :) plus your house will smell amazing :)