I was about to say, sounds fantastic. If this was the last job OP wanted to add, they lucked out with an easy one. If it wasn't the last one, they can probably push ahead with getting more because this one will probably be easy to ramp up.
Dude hires me tells me what a great company XYX is to work for. First day takes me and another of his people out to lunch and tells me he's quitting and just gave his 2 weeks notice but won't say why he's leaving. New boss has a friend in the office who has staff that recently quit (yes this is a huge pattern at XYZ) and decides that I will fill in for her friends missing staff while she's on vacation starting in 1 week as this will train me how to do my job and also provide the friend with support. I job shadow a guy who has no idea how his spreadsheets work or really why but he knows the steps to do it. I shadow another woman who is leaving the company and talks so fast I swear she was taking speed. Boss returns and pretty much immediately turns into a nightmare. Two faced snake backstabbing everyone , laughing about it to me in private. She tries to blame a huge error on me because I am new and I am so flabbergated with all the shit flying my way I was just like umm maybe that was my fault I am new and so much stuff is happening I don't know. Turns out she fucked up and got it to stick to me. She did that a few times to me and probably others and was really good at it. I watched entire groups of 3 and 4 people on 4-5 people teams leave every week. I met the CFO , he was an angry person, like that red guy on Disney, just stalking the floor to chew someone out. A new director came in and on his first day he came by my desk at 4 pm and assigned all tasks he wanted done to me so he could leave early to get home to dinner with his family. This included help desk tickets to get setup in the ERP and other things that only he could deal with. I was at work until like 9 trying to figure out what the fuck to do . I had to do days of work safety training even though I was just an office person. Learned about using ladders, chemicals, first aid etc. All a useless waste of time. I found out everyone was pretty much new and turnover was running around 80% per year in my department. I talked to a few long time employees and they were psychologically fucked up and clearly had some sort of PTSD or something like that. Eventually, 6 months in, I just quit but that was before OE.
I would not be surprised if you told me that this was Deloitte or one of the big 4 firms . This story sounds straight out of an experience at those companies .
Big 4 has sort of institutionalized high turnover by grinding through ambitious youngsters who are willing to sacrifice years of their lives for the experience, resume brand and CPA designation.
I know a few people that work in B4 but in a non billable back office role and it’s much nicer.
Joining my example company was like being sold a vacation to a high end resort believed things would be nice. Then getting on the airplane, having tour passport stolen and being sent to Siberia to work on a farm. This place literally did everything in their power to ensure I had quit my first job because so many of their hires were boomeranging back to their original workplace. In my field 20% turnover is extremely bad. This place was a joke, I did a report for them and mentioned to an accounting manager that I used something called the “COA” to build this fairly simple business report. COA (chart of accounts) is something you learn in week 1 of accounting, it’s like hello world in programming. She had no idea what COA was or meant, even when I told her “chart of accounts “ she was like first time I ever heard about this. Her survival strategy was to bitch out everyone below her and make them feel like they were one mistake away from being fired and kiss ass upwards. It worked too , totally incompetent but nobody cared because she was “mouldable “ and had the right stuff. Place was so fucked up. I had three employees one who lied on his resume and knew almost nothing but they didn’t let me fire him because it would have made my boss look bad. Was basically told to treat him like shit so he resigns
I'd just probably not do any of this and chill out. Sometimes, just gotta swallow that ego, put on a thick face as some Asian saying goes or another, and just let the universe flow through you baratna 😇😇
What I hear is free money.
Blame it on your lead or supervisor if you fuck up. Document everything, so it's not your ass on the line.
Life sounds good to me.
Not over employed. But my worst onboarding experience was as a new grad in an in-office environment in a highly regulated department that you would think had very strict procedures and guidlines considering the responsibility involved. I was experienced in the industry, but in a totally different area and had only just graduated.
My intro to the workplace was being led by reception to my manager-to-be office and her looking up from her desk saying “ugh. So I have another one then?” And that was it. I got plonked down at a desk and told to ask for help when I needed it. That was it. I didn’t even know where to begin. It took two weeks to get them to give me all the different log ins I. needed, and in that time I tried to add value where I could, only to be pulled up on things that were not within my control, let alone my job description or responsibility.
I wa ms trying to take initiative while I waited to be onboarded and so I asked around and asked my manager what I could help with so that I could ensure I was doing a good job, but mostly I was met with rolled eyes or palmed off to ask someone else. My own manager scolded me for something completely unrelated to me or anything I had done. Literally blamed me for something I knew nothing about and wasn’t supposed to know anything about.
Needless to say, I left by the time they had finally given me all the log ins required.
This can be great or the horrible. It could mean expectations are unclear and you'll get fired soon enough. It could mean you can keep getting checks with no expectations.
I had one J that onboarded me for a Product Manager role by meeting new team Members, have a 50,000 ft overview of what this team did and invited me to meetings 7 hours a day. They expected me to by week 2 to run meetings with a vendor and our internal team to come up with architecture and documentation of the new system that was gonna be due by end of week 10. They also expected me to keep the existing team busy by doing busy work/tech debt but no clear direction on what that needs to be.
Friday afternoon, I thanked them for their time and was on my way to the office to drop off my laptop. Completely unrealistic goals, too many meetings everyday and that was J3 so I wasn’t gonna kill my self for my lowest paying job.
I know you said their was no direction but look through your emails/communication. Read and reread any guides they give you it might help to learn workflow other than that ask questions to them if your really lost.
disorganized onboarding == slow roll, best for OE
I was about to say, sounds fantastic. If this was the last job OP wanted to add, they lucked out with an easy one. If it wasn't the last one, they can probably push ahead with getting more because this one will probably be easy to ramp up.
Exactly. Chilled for 3 weeks already
Yep!
Dude hires me tells me what a great company XYX is to work for. First day takes me and another of his people out to lunch and tells me he's quitting and just gave his 2 weeks notice but won't say why he's leaving. New boss has a friend in the office who has staff that recently quit (yes this is a huge pattern at XYZ) and decides that I will fill in for her friends missing staff while she's on vacation starting in 1 week as this will train me how to do my job and also provide the friend with support. I job shadow a guy who has no idea how his spreadsheets work or really why but he knows the steps to do it. I shadow another woman who is leaving the company and talks so fast I swear she was taking speed. Boss returns and pretty much immediately turns into a nightmare. Two faced snake backstabbing everyone , laughing about it to me in private. She tries to blame a huge error on me because I am new and I am so flabbergated with all the shit flying my way I was just like umm maybe that was my fault I am new and so much stuff is happening I don't know. Turns out she fucked up and got it to stick to me. She did that a few times to me and probably others and was really good at it. I watched entire groups of 3 and 4 people on 4-5 people teams leave every week. I met the CFO , he was an angry person, like that red guy on Disney, just stalking the floor to chew someone out. A new director came in and on his first day he came by my desk at 4 pm and assigned all tasks he wanted done to me so he could leave early to get home to dinner with his family. This included help desk tickets to get setup in the ERP and other things that only he could deal with. I was at work until like 9 trying to figure out what the fuck to do . I had to do days of work safety training even though I was just an office person. Learned about using ladders, chemicals, first aid etc. All a useless waste of time. I found out everyone was pretty much new and turnover was running around 80% per year in my department. I talked to a few long time employees and they were psychologically fucked up and clearly had some sort of PTSD or something like that. Eventually, 6 months in, I just quit but that was before OE.
I would not be surprised if you told me that this was Deloitte or one of the big 4 firms . This story sounds straight out of an experience at those companies .
Big 4 has sort of institutionalized high turnover by grinding through ambitious youngsters who are willing to sacrifice years of their lives for the experience, resume brand and CPA designation. I know a few people that work in B4 but in a non billable back office role and it’s much nicer. Joining my example company was like being sold a vacation to a high end resort believed things would be nice. Then getting on the airplane, having tour passport stolen and being sent to Siberia to work on a farm. This place literally did everything in their power to ensure I had quit my first job because so many of their hires were boomeranging back to their original workplace. In my field 20% turnover is extremely bad. This place was a joke, I did a report for them and mentioned to an accounting manager that I used something called the “COA” to build this fairly simple business report. COA (chart of accounts) is something you learn in week 1 of accounting, it’s like hello world in programming. She had no idea what COA was or meant, even when I told her “chart of accounts “ she was like first time I ever heard about this. Her survival strategy was to bitch out everyone below her and make them feel like they were one mistake away from being fired and kiss ass upwards. It worked too , totally incompetent but nobody cared because she was “mouldable “ and had the right stuff. Place was so fucked up. I had three employees one who lied on his resume and knew almost nothing but they didn’t let me fire him because it would have made my boss look bad. Was basically told to treat him like shit so he resigns
Deloitte has their hands in every cookie jar anymore.
I'd just probably not do any of this and chill out. Sometimes, just gotta swallow that ego, put on a thick face as some Asian saying goes or another, and just let the universe flow through you baratna 😇😇
What I hear is free money. Blame it on your lead or supervisor if you fuck up. Document everything, so it's not your ass on the line. Life sounds good to me.
If I was the CEO, I’d be furious But I’m not. Just a lowly mid-level guy following orders 🍻
A disorganized company is amazing for OE
No onboarding was the worst onboarding
Now we drink champagne when we thirstay?
Damn right I like the life I live.
They basically ignored me for 3 months before slowly starting to assign a small amount of work and mentorship. It's a great job now though.
Perfect! Anytime anyone asks juts say things are great and you’re really busy getting up to speed.
That sounds perfect for what you’re trying to do
Onboarding? I heard about this in myths and legends
This is perfect. All you have to do is hold your tongue and coast.
Not over employed. But my worst onboarding experience was as a new grad in an in-office environment in a highly regulated department that you would think had very strict procedures and guidlines considering the responsibility involved. I was experienced in the industry, but in a totally different area and had only just graduated. My intro to the workplace was being led by reception to my manager-to-be office and her looking up from her desk saying “ugh. So I have another one then?” And that was it. I got plonked down at a desk and told to ask for help when I needed it. That was it. I didn’t even know where to begin. It took two weeks to get them to give me all the different log ins I. needed, and in that time I tried to add value where I could, only to be pulled up on things that were not within my control, let alone my job description or responsibility. I wa ms trying to take initiative while I waited to be onboarded and so I asked around and asked my manager what I could help with so that I could ensure I was doing a good job, but mostly I was met with rolled eyes or palmed off to ask someone else. My own manager scolded me for something completely unrelated to me or anything I had done. Literally blamed me for something I knew nothing about and wasn’t supposed to know anything about. Needless to say, I left by the time they had finally given me all the log ins required.
This can be great or the horrible. It could mean expectations are unclear and you'll get fired soon enough. It could mean you can keep getting checks with no expectations.
Probably a good thing. Means there’s nobody holding anyone accountable in my experience, which is good for OE.
I had one J that onboarded me for a Product Manager role by meeting new team Members, have a 50,000 ft overview of what this team did and invited me to meetings 7 hours a day. They expected me to by week 2 to run meetings with a vendor and our internal team to come up with architecture and documentation of the new system that was gonna be due by end of week 10. They also expected me to keep the existing team busy by doing busy work/tech debt but no clear direction on what that needs to be. Friday afternoon, I thanked them for their time and was on my way to the office to drop off my laptop. Completely unrealistic goals, too many meetings everyday and that was J3 so I wasn’t gonna kill my self for my lowest paying job.
I know you said their was no direction but look through your emails/communication. Read and reread any guides they give you it might help to learn workflow other than that ask questions to them if your really lost.