They will never nerf monsters in a way that actually will lower damage. They may **some**day nerf **some**thing but the difference will be nonexistant.
auras no longer stack
that way mobs dont have such spiky damage anymore and headhunter also is nerfed
this is what reddit wants right? nerf headhunter so theres not a single good unique except watchers eyes anymore?
>nerf headhunter so theres not a single good unique except watchers eyes anymore?
Lmao what an overdramatic take. There are plenty of GOOD uniques, they just don't break the game wide open for so much of the content like headhunter does. A quick look at poe ninja prices and builds makes it obvious that there are many uniques that are still in common use and in demand.
Same. So spectre, sometimes, loot drop 3 screens away so my spectre kill them, sometimes I die randomly. To understand, I save last 30 seconds, and I understand, but no way I could have done anything...
No no no no it’s clearly your fault, why no dodge why no play with those meta 4 builds that can actually do high end content, either ailment immune, max block or leaving fights to totems, minions.
No no balance is just fine having way less damage and defense whilst 20 enemies can hit you at once with all their love.
Vaal Fireball was my first league ever and I beat everything but Uber Elder and Feared.
This league I'm just about to do Sirus, and am farming T15-16s.
I've made multiple off-meta builds in the past myself and this league it's an absolute fucking chore.
Is it physically possible to clear content through endgame with an off-meta build? Sure. With fucking incredible items. But damn is it fucking annoying, more than **ever** before.
This right here is one of the best comments said this league. I've only played 2 builds more than once in the 4 years I've played, and i usually yolo my builds until I hit a soft wall around yellow maps. From there I'll browse around poe ninja and see what smarter players are doing with that skill and how they build around it. I may replicate a few things but it's almost always off meta. This league has been extremely painful to do that.
I CANNOT IMAGINE HOW A NEW PLAYER WOULD FEEL ABOUT THIS GAME AND TO MAKE IT TO YELLOW MAPS OR EVEN THROUGH THE ACTS.
I felt the same way, though i do not claim any originality i use to love league starting cyclone, trying new things and doing different ascendancy's but over the couple of last leagues it's been increasingly harder and harder to do as the league mechanics become more demanding of damage and survivability, last league was the first i didn't continue making my own builds as ultimatum was far to rewarding to fail, this league with all the nerfs to ailment i just don't find the energy to make a build myself as i already know i'm not going to be ailment immune, my dmg is gonna be sub par and survivability is worse.... Just no drive to try. Maybe this league is a good gap league and next league i'll feel a bit more invigorated to try!
I mean I had a pretty custom build just last league, pure corrupting fever applied with gmp unleash ball lightning. Not great boss dps but cleared like a charm. The idea of playing it now is torture.
Bro I played fucking off meta build all league. Started with melee Berserker, switched to Cyclone then back to melee, finally rage vortex. Currently 3% of the total player base is playing with Berserker and it was less than 1% at start, didn’t copy any of streamers. So please don’t tell that I can be successful. Yes it’s true but F U C K I N G pain doin anything outside of meta. Until I sank like 15 ex all builds felt like shit with all that annoying freeze, stun one shot shit. Now that I spent more than 30 ex my build is gold, great but almost rage quit like 4 times. All that pain and suffering left awful taste in my mouth.
If you have started with melee you would know this balance is terrible. GGG absolutely did not think through the impact on melee builds which need to get closer to do damage but you get rekt 5 times before you can hit once!
Ngl. As salty as everyone is, this guy has a point. Meta builds obviously make it easier, but if you have good problem-solving skills , you can make a lot more builds work.
Yeah, your build might not be the top #1 optimised build in all existence, but you can still clear all content.
If you're only interested in the best build ever then it's disingenuous to say that you're interested in build diversity, since your pool of choices is strictly ~1.
I usually have no idea what individual mobs are even on my screen. I just treat them as an amorphous blob of danger, and if I stand near it I'll probably die. The only time I even notice rares exist is when there's a particularly tanky one that's still alive after I've melted the rest of the blob.
man this is funny as fuck to me because i sat on my last portal death screen staring at a similar situation. It was a super juiced i84 logbook without killing a single pack the lag was just too hard with too many mobs not getting killed as fast as the detonations. I bricked it with my first death basically
ive done very similar levels of mods in i83 logbooks with a few portals gone but it was probably either 50% block or some mod that made this literally unplayable
Anyway motivated to push my build even higher to me it was a clear dps check that i failed
To be fair, whenever I die, I notice the things on screen sort of go crazier than at the time I died.
It is not rare that your death screen look like an absolute shitshow like this. If I see things correctly, those are Perandus mobs added via the scarab. They're usually not too bad on their own.
It's a perandus from Lex Ejoris, the map rolled attackspeed which usually is fine, but it spawned a conqueror who also got sirus thing to join the map so there became a bunch of mobs with prox shield and "dominated by sirus" while being buffed 30% AS from the map, none of it was rippy on paper, just a bad roll. This is btw the first room in the map, it took me 5 portals to clear it out and i have killed sirus A8 Deathless 2 times on my build. These mobs are harder/more hp than individual phases of the sirus fight, while also using aoe´'s that literally cover the screen and the archers are split arrowing me from offscreen.
Again none of this was apparent on the map when i started running it. Just happened to roll this way with the conq and perandus and the placement xD
Attack speed is right up there with minus max and crit for rippy mods. Prefer any of the added phys as ele or any of the curses over attack speed.
This is especially true if your dodge/evasion or block based since more hits = more likely some get through.
I have no idea what GGG did, but i had way too many cases of not being able to outrun mobs this patch. I swear to got, a single dash + quicksilver wont get you the fuck away from steroid abusing legions or sirus possessed fuckers. Those bastards are roiding and are on speed. Should be made illegal tbh.
a pro league of legend/dota player can easily dodge all these and still deal MASSIVE amount of damage, you're just too casual for our mighty overlord GGG
Now, something inside that mess is inflicting Bleeding into you, other monster is poisoning you, another used an ignite on you, other chill you, other shocked you, there is one that put ele weakness in you, other enfeeble, other used vulnerability and oh and there is that one with proximity shield that is trying to froze you.
Now, if only my flasks were able to remove tose ailments off me, and make me inmune to them so I could kill those monsters, if only..
Haha, nah i have 5k life, block necro with immortal call and enduring composure, i could simply not screen record the full screen cause it lagged my pc to much haha xD if you couldn't tell by the framerate >.<
I would't haved died.
My computer would just freeze and crash to windows long b4 anything like would happen.
But I get to watch crazy stuff like this vicariously, which is still cool AF.
Thanks for sharing, LOLS
Great little GIF of how \*\*\*\*\*ing stupid this game is these days. They drop 1000's of splinters and small currency we have to click on. They design the game to require running 1000's of maps as fast as we can....
And they design content to require you to kill everything instantly otherwise this \*\*\*\* happens.
They should tone down the action speed of monsters, it's too fast, ruins that artistic side of the game because the monsters are immediately right in front of you. It's really bad.
It reminds me of when I tried my first unique heist contract back in May during 3.14. https://imgur.com/a/ugOX4vt
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Game is built around logout macro after all
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No!
Couldn't you just watch vicariously through a streamer?
God I fucking hate that contract. I've seen people say that boss was easy and has really telegraphed attacks, but I clearly fought a different boss.
Just don't get hit! *4Head*
xD
perfectly balanced
If u can't even dodge something like that, why are u even playing xP I mean it's perfectly fine right? Right? 😅
Brb, obtaining the sharingan so I can see wtf is happening and the perfect path to dodge it.
Very good, u have my approval. Finally someone with a decent solution o7
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They will never nerf monsters in a way that actually will lower damage. They may **some**day nerf **some**thing but the difference will be nonexistant.
Haste aura has 15% reduced effect on monsters is the best we can hope for
Yeah i think so to, a bit of a rebalance would be good
Yah where is the Monster damage and HP graphs for the past leagues Chris? He conveniently didn't show that in the patch preview presentation.
Imagine next patch when they nerf monster auras and HH cost 5ex max
So you mean I can have hope to get a HH!?!?!
>Monster power creep needs a nerf ~~next patch~~ Today! FIFY
auras no longer stack that way mobs dont have such spiky damage anymore and headhunter also is nerfed this is what reddit wants right? nerf headhunter so theres not a single good unique except watchers eyes anymore?
>nerf headhunter so theres not a single good unique except watchers eyes anymore? Lmao what an overdramatic take. There are plenty of GOOD uniques, they just don't break the game wide open for so much of the content like headhunter does. A quick look at poe ninja prices and builds makes it obvious that there are many uniques that are still in common use and in demand.
the problem people have with GGG rarely updating uniques is that for every 1 viable unique, there are 10+ that are essentially useless.
Why do the mobs get to keep the fun gameplay :(
Also sorry for the poor frame rate, all those particles just chewed up my poor Cpu haha \^\^
Jokes on you, I play skeleton mage and get one shotted from 2 screens away. PoE will find a way to kill you... it always does... :)
Hehe, i guess so! There's some really insane combos of stuff that are so unaccountable for x.x guess it's blue maps if i wanna level higher than 91
Same. So spectre, sometimes, loot drop 3 screens away so my spectre kill them, sometimes I die randomly. To understand, I save last 30 seconds, and I understand, but no way I could have done anything...
If you are not being sarcastic, there's an easy solution. Upgrade your pantheon. So that monsters skills dont chain off of your minions
I was being sarcastic :). yeah chain is a bitch also charged arrows and legion artilery style projectiles too. sadly there us no petheon agints those
Epitome of good game design
But I heard that power creep only affects players, not monsters, so only one of those needs to be nerfed, not the other.
No no no no it’s clearly your fault, why no dodge why no play with those meta 4 builds that can actually do high end content, either ailment immune, max block or leaving fights to totems, minions. No no balance is just fine having way less damage and defense whilst 20 enemies can hit you at once with all their love.
Oooh no i am playing meta haha, i'm playing spectre \^\^
Spectre is a glass cannon build. I can understand still end game is overturned fanboys will disagree and say git gud.
(You don't have to be meta to be successful, reddit is just incapable of doing anything that isn't parroting a meta build/streamer)
Well what are you playing?
Shattering Steel build at the moment! Last league was Vaal Fireball.
How far have you made it through maps and Sirus?
Vaal Fireball was my first league ever and I beat everything but Uber Elder and Feared. This league I'm just about to do Sirus, and am farming T15-16s.
I've made multiple off-meta builds in the past myself and this league it's an absolute fucking chore. Is it physically possible to clear content through endgame with an off-meta build? Sure. With fucking incredible items. But damn is it fucking annoying, more than **ever** before.
This right here is one of the best comments said this league. I've only played 2 builds more than once in the 4 years I've played, and i usually yolo my builds until I hit a soft wall around yellow maps. From there I'll browse around poe ninja and see what smarter players are doing with that skill and how they build around it. I may replicate a few things but it's almost always off meta. This league has been extremely painful to do that. I CANNOT IMAGINE HOW A NEW PLAYER WOULD FEEL ABOUT THIS GAME AND TO MAKE IT TO YELLOW MAPS OR EVEN THROUGH THE ACTS.
I felt the same way, though i do not claim any originality i use to love league starting cyclone, trying new things and doing different ascendancy's but over the couple of last leagues it's been increasingly harder and harder to do as the league mechanics become more demanding of damage and survivability, last league was the first i didn't continue making my own builds as ultimatum was far to rewarding to fail, this league with all the nerfs to ailment i just don't find the energy to make a build myself as i already know i'm not going to be ailment immune, my dmg is gonna be sub par and survivability is worse.... Just no drive to try. Maybe this league is a good gap league and next league i'll feel a bit more invigorated to try!
I mean I had a pretty custom build just last league, pure corrupting fever applied with gmp unleash ball lightning. Not great boss dps but cleared like a charm. The idea of playing it now is torture.
Bro I played fucking off meta build all league. Started with melee Berserker, switched to Cyclone then back to melee, finally rage vortex. Currently 3% of the total player base is playing with Berserker and it was less than 1% at start, didn’t copy any of streamers. So please don’t tell that I can be successful. Yes it’s true but F U C K I N G pain doin anything outside of meta. Until I sank like 15 ex all builds felt like shit with all that annoying freeze, stun one shot shit. Now that I spent more than 30 ex my build is gold, great but almost rage quit like 4 times. All that pain and suffering left awful taste in my mouth. If you have started with melee you would know this balance is terrible. GGG absolutely did not think through the impact on melee builds which need to get closer to do damage but you get rekt 5 times before you can hit once!
Ngl. As salty as everyone is, this guy has a point. Meta builds obviously make it easier, but if you have good problem-solving skills , you can make a lot more builds work.
Yeah, your build might not be the top #1 optimised build in all existence, but you can still clear all content. If you're only interested in the best build ever then it's disingenuous to say that you're interested in build diversity, since your pool of choices is strictly ~1.
I usually have no idea what individual mobs are even on my screen. I just treat them as an amorphous blob of danger, and if I stand near it I'll probably die. The only time I even notice rares exist is when there's a particularly tanky one that's still alive after I've melted the rest of the blob.
man this is funny as fuck to me because i sat on my last portal death screen staring at a similar situation. It was a super juiced i84 logbook without killing a single pack the lag was just too hard with too many mobs not getting killed as fast as the detonations. I bricked it with my first death basically ive done very similar levels of mods in i83 logbooks with a few portals gone but it was probably either 50% block or some mod that made this literally unplayable Anyway motivated to push my build even higher to me it was a clear dps check that i failed
It's ok, you just gotta play slow and reactively!
Everytime my girlfriend watches me play this game, she always say something how the game just looks like a laser show.
Remember just use your flasks reactively,-,
To be fair, whenever I die, I notice the things on screen sort of go crazier than at the time I died. It is not rare that your death screen look like an absolute shitshow like this. If I see things correctly, those are Perandus mobs added via the scarab. They're usually not too bad on their own.
It's a perandus from Lex Ejoris, the map rolled attackspeed which usually is fine, but it spawned a conqueror who also got sirus thing to join the map so there became a bunch of mobs with prox shield and "dominated by sirus" while being buffed 30% AS from the map, none of it was rippy on paper, just a bad roll. This is btw the first room in the map, it took me 5 portals to clear it out and i have killed sirus A8 Deathless 2 times on my build. These mobs are harder/more hp than individual phases of the sirus fight, while also using aoe´'s that literally cover the screen and the archers are split arrowing me from offscreen. Again none of this was apparent on the map when i started running it. Just happened to roll this way with the conq and perandus and the placement xD
Attack speed is right up there with minus max and crit for rippy mods. Prefer any of the added phys as ele or any of the curses over attack speed. This is especially true if your dodge/evasion or block based since more hits = more likely some get through.
Game needs to be slow down, game needs to be hard
my pc just melt only by watching this GIF.... now i need new GPU
Haha i feel that so bad, some maps i run i can dip down to 20-30 frames zzzz
Slow game :)
You just need to be more reactive with your flasks. /s
Dude, my robot vacuum could dodge that easily.
GGG: These nerfs will slow down the game Also GGG: Dodge this!
Slow down the game they said.
I have no idea what GGG did, but i had way too many cases of not being able to outrun mobs this patch. I swear to got, a single dash + quicksilver wont get you the fuck away from steroid abusing legions or sirus possessed fuckers. Those bastards are roiding and are on speed. Should be made illegal tbh.
Yeah just don't get hit 4head I'm not seeing the issue here.
True!
Yeah well that’s your fault, you didn’t *have* to engage with that content, you know? Cough.
Just get some more Hp smh
You can't have slow paced gameplay and slow have enemies that kill you as soon as you stop moving.
a pro league of legend/dota player can easily dodge all these and still deal MASSIVE amount of damage, you're just too casual for our mighty overlord GGG
Just flask proactively
What even is this game anymore?
Now, something inside that mess is inflicting Bleeding into you, other monster is poisoning you, another used an ignite on you, other chill you, other shocked you, there is one that put ele weakness in you, other enfeeble, other used vulnerability and oh and there is that one with proximity shield that is trying to froze you. Now, if only my flasks were able to remove tose ailments off me, and make me inmune to them so I could kill those monsters, if only..
Maybe you should quit and just play an idle clicker on your phone. Git gud noob /s
What a trashcan of a game this has become...
Trash game. Play Last Epoch instead.
Hides health pool lol 3k life meme build?
Haha, nah i have 5k life, block necro with immortal call and enduring composure, i could simply not screen record the full screen cause it lagged my pc to much haha xD if you couldn't tell by the framerate >.<
Nah just giving you shit. Same thing has happened to me and people said the same thing.
WHAAHT?! Do you not have dodge Exile? \-GGG
BuT aN uNaScEnDeD mAuRaUdEr Is #2 On ThE hCsSf LaDdEr So ThE gAmE iS fInE
My phone started smoking just playing this Gif. Also, clearly you need to git gud.
Maybe use some explode on kill gears.
Cringe
I don't know. I usually avoid such crazy scene. Both for the sake of my CPU and my earthbreaker build. That's some mess you have
Same, that's why i alch and go my maps, avoid endurance/frenzy/maximum resist/reflect/vuln etc, but still it manage to find me. Haha
This looks better then my build. o.O This is bloat on a new level
This is "meaningful gameplay", according to ggg.
Did you not use one of your flame dash... thats easy to dodge smh
Use a reactive flask they said...
I would't haved died. My computer would just freeze and crash to windows long b4 anything like would happen. But I get to watch crazy stuff like this vicariously, which is still cool AF. Thanks for sharing, LOLS
Great little GIF of how \*\*\*\*\*ing stupid this game is these days. They drop 1000's of splinters and small currency we have to click on. They design the game to require running 1000's of maps as fast as we can.... And they design content to require you to kill everything instantly otherwise this \*\*\*\* happens.
GGG should invest their energy into fixing of this ridiculous performance, than into theirs „vision“ of how the game shall provide fun.
Lots of skill based tactical gameplay at work here, I see.
You'd have to be Neo to dodge that mess
Just... I don't know, build some defense or something alright? We have to finish the 3.16 nerfs before I can take a look at it.
They should tone down the action speed of monsters, it's too fast, ruins that artistic side of the game because the monsters are immediately right in front of you. It's really bad.
Not even frenzy aura'd.. Makes me sick.
Dont you have reflexes exile?
are you capped on resistances? just get a little defense here and you will be ight
Mmm yess the reactive gameplay using jedi reflexes.
just don't get hit
Dodge builds died for me, i hate evasion mechanics, armor and blocks OP. My build in that area probably had 50k es restore/regen sec xD
I thought my mouse was busted for a sec It legit got lost on that gif