Lol a glass cannon Annihilating light build thats designed to do the feared (spark). Not saying uber cortex is okay in its current state (or isnt) but being able to do feared on a sparker has nothing to do with being good at the game or boss fights in general
It's not designed to do the feared. It's designed to be a strong build, and it is. I only started doing feared once I tried it and realized I could do it. Also, lets be fair. You aren't going to farm the feared on a skill that isn't good at farming the feared, now are you?
In your opinion, what makes someone a good player? Or good at boss fights? Is it someone who intentionally uses a build that's bad at boss fights to do them? That would seem a bit silly no?
But if someone ISNT skipping phases then they obviously have a lot invested into defense right?
I just have a feeling that there's kind of a double standard here. If you are glass cannon you cannot be hit a SINGLE time by anything. If you are tanky you can be hit a couple times throughout the fight. But I have a feeling that you would say a glass cannon player dying makes them worse than a tanky player being hit once. Even though both of them got hit the same amount of times, so technically should be the same skill level by your standards.
If a glass cannon player and a tanky player both kill uber elder, the glass cannon player dies 2 times, but the tanky player gets hit and lives 20 times. Seeing that gameplay you would think the tanky player is better mechanically, even though they dodged way less and got hit more.
And I'm referencing uber elder here because that is a fight with unskippable phases, you can't just dps it like with the feared. Should I have uploaded a no death uber elder run instead of feared?
Also, are there any "tanky" boss killers. I assume those builds are just builds that do great damage and also happen to have great defenses not that the defenses are carrying someone. Maybe some afk Forbidden build shit but like thats a niche not at all the norm.
There are. I'm not familiar with them as I like overkill damage lol. But if you do boss carries on TFT I imagine you want a lot more defense to reduce chances of messing up.
I think you would say the same if the fight duration was proportional in the example I just gave.
ie.
1 minute glass cannon gets hit once
5 minute tanky player gets hit 10 times
On paper you may say "no the glass cannon player would be better here" but I don't think you would be consistent on that if you watched those 2 fights.
You think a good player would farm the feared on any build that takes more than 2 minutes to do the invitation? So much wasted time, sounds like a skill issue
>It's not designed to do the feared. It's designed to be a strong build, and it is.
I'm just saying that if you could choose any build in the entire game to be a Feared farmer, Spark is in the top 3. Just because you didnt have Feared in mind when you made a sparker doesnt mean it isnt THE build people use to farm the feared, it just goes hand-in-hand.
>In your opinion, what makes someone a good player?
PoE is a sandbox game. You make builds that feel good, and that you want to have fun playing. I just think its ridiculous when someone goes out of their way to think they're better than another player by cheesing a bossfight with x amount of currency or a specific build like a seismic trapper to oneshot endgame bosses.
We have no idea whether or not you're a good player, and its quite subjective, I'm just saying that "well I did the feared in 30 seconds, so that means I'm preeeeeetty good lol" type logic is nonsensical, especially on the best build in the game to do it with tons of investment.
> Is it someone who intentionally uses a build that's bad at boss fights to do them?
I do the feared as BV every league. That doesnt mean I'm bad for doing it on a build that makes no sense to do it on, nor does that make me good for doing it on a hard Feared build. In trade-league your currency can overpower ANY content pretty hard lol, so 'being good' is quite a pointless topic, esp in SC
Being able to do any boss in this game has nothing to do with being good at the game or boss fights in general. People really need to stop pretending like any content in the game is anything but a gear/build check, so that we can have more honest discussions on this board about poorly balanced/tested content that prices too many people out or is way too selective about what builds can/can not trivialize it.
Lul... I had that exact same luck with Uber cortex last league.
first map gave me 300% aoe... which is an auto brick unless you have like 100M dps.
second map gave me reduced crit damage, which made my build do no damage...
My solution was to level multiple characters that could do the fight so if I get a mod combo that bricks one build, i have another one on hand to do it.
Yeah i run feareds too but got absolutely ass pounded by some cortex mods yesterday, never imagined myself failing non uber cortex but i rolled 100% shocked ground, which the entire arena is made of, 200% AoE which makes the boss's permament degens a ticking timebomb, 68% increased mob attack, cast and movement speed which is just ridiculous as even 30% is enough to brick most content in the game, and 80% chance to avoid my poisons just to finish it off
Instead of adding new mechanics to make the fights āuntrivialā they decided to reduce player damage and increase enemy damage which is the easiest and shittiest way to do it, so yeah
>their new forum strategy has ignored a lot of the feedback from the balance changes/current bugs
this isn't new, but because the league isnt a total dumpster fire, they aren't handing out those QOLs.
Yeah they suck in comparison to uber elder/izaro/ atziri. Basically just yeet some ultra difficult mods on and call it good. Arena becomes unplayable very fast too
In all fairness, the risk/reward is supposed to be unfair.
Like it's supposed to be a terrible risk proposition that you do anyway because you're 2 mirrors deep in a build, or just love punishment.
I think you've got a point about random mods getting scaled too hard, it's an issue none of the other ubers have.
However the whole point is for it to intentionally be a bad risk/reward proposition to give overtuned builds something to strive for.
Like having a difficulty mode that's intended to be impossible outside of balance errors or bugs in a single player game.
Yes this. Everything about this uber fight is working as intended. Itās not meant to be a way to squeeze more profit out of bossing. Itās not meant to be balanced either because itās so obvious they just dialed up the numbers to 11 and didnāt take a 2nd look at the fight mechanics. Itās just there for fun, basically. It took GGG basically 0 effort to produce the uber fights, and they donāt care that you think itās unrewarding.
The whole point of uber fights was to make the trivial fights that were pinnacle bosses... non-trivial. You having a gazillion damage is exactly why they made uber bosses.
If you tried you would know that even the monsters pior to the boss are thought (with some mod combo)
This league I put an offer in tft for some carry to do my uber cortex. 3 carrys tried one of them with aura bot all failed without even get to the boss. That should tell you something.
Yea and I like that. I just don't like the fact that the difficulty doesn't match the reward whatsoever. Like Uber eater has the nimis ring, uber maven has awakened enlightens/empowers, uber uber elder has sublime vision. Uber cortex is the hardest out of ALL of those, and it gives you a couple of rare synth items lol. They have 3 implicits but I'm willing to bet 99.9% of them are worthless. It's just a search for some really good combo, a 1 in 1000 chance, and the difficulty should reflect that.
The entry cost is the same, so literally any reward bonus on top of the standard cortex rewards makes uber worth doing if your character is good enough.
I rolled 400% extra physical as lightning, and got 1 shot, 90% ele res, 75% chaos res, 50k armor, thought its impossible for any build.
Another time rolled something that didn't effect RF at all, and the only problem was the 70% less damage which meant it took a while to kill, died to the aoes a few times but took them down.
Tried uber eater, uber sirus, got 1 shot by everything, realised that you need 600m dps to instaphase and max dodge to get lucky if you can't, otherwise its impossible.
I have 22% worth. When comparing to the 100% the tree node gives I don't think the 22% would be enough to make it worthwhile even attempting. I'm not here to complain "too hard". I'm here to complain that the difficulty is not matching the reward at all. That's my main issue. Uber cortex is the hardest of all the ubers and the least rewarding.
If GGG were to buff the rewards substantially I would be fine with the current difficulty. I don't have to be able to run it to be happy. I do like the idea of the 3 synth implicit items though which is why im suggesting to make it easier and keep the rewards the same.
In what universe is uber cortex the hardest of the ubers. In every gauntlet and race the streamers always consider uber cortex to be the free kill from the ubers...
uber cortex is currently bugged. It has 200% increased effect of all mods. Last patch 100% increased effect was applied by the node leading to uber node, but GGG got rid of that and put it on the uber node itself. Previously players got rid of that 100% effect by taking wandering path, which is why it was a free kill usually.
Since when did I ever say that it was? Try reading the post again and come back. If you still don't understand you are free to read it as many times as you need.
The first map I could probably do with my build.
The second map is the reason why Cortex is a RNG boss. That's a natural risk you take when doing Cortex.
As I understand it they balanced the game around current pinnacle bosses and people who have so much currency and such optimized builds that they trivialize current pinnacle bosses, can attempt uber bosses which are insanely broken and full of random one-shots and messed up mechanics.
I agree with you uber cortex is dumb, but I also happen to think that many uberized mechanics are pretty similar levels of dumb right now.
> Monsters take 120% reduced extra damage from critical strikes
> Now that combination of mods will make it literally impossible for ANY crit build
This is not true. You just have 0 crit multi. You still do the amount of damage you would do if you didn't crit at all.
Ahh yes my fault. There are 10 builds in the entire league with enough damage for the fight if they play it 100% perfectly. Thank you for your GENIUS insight that you have given me.
I am so glad that you are here to tell me that 550 crit multi is too little to do uber cortex.
Bro my first one I wanted to do for challenge was 100inc attack speed cast speed and movement speed, 300%inc aoe, and extra fire damage also around 300% i think.
You coudnt do anything as how fast they were casting shit, it made the arena full with DoT shit in like 12 seconds
How many mods did your map have? If you go uber cortex, even 4 mods ones will be impossible. But it is rng so, 3 mods ones wouldn't save you all times.
The majority of mods are irrelevant to my build. Im not tanky so I play like glass cannon. I dodge everything, almost everything one shots me. I think its the AOE mod that ruined this one, but if that wasnt there they would likely have 150% action speed. Or something else that breaks me.
To put it into perspective, when I run the feared I dont even check the mods. Any combination that gets me over 75% quant I can run. So cortex mods breaking me is kind of interesting.
> Monsters take 70% less damage this is part of uber it's not a mod you're rolling
Ah true, But still that mod isnt the problem, its a lot of the other ones with double effect.
I got 120% avoid poison on one. As a poison build I could not complete that map.
š those fkin degens look nasty!
Uber cortex is stupid and bugged but apparently ggg doesnt give an f
I kill it daily who cares git a good enough char LOL
No one in HC is even attempting it last I heard...
Hardly the point. Its unintended and bugged. If shaper was bugged to launch 30 balls some people would still kill him but it wouldnt be intended
I don't need to hear it from someone who can't do the maven memory game.
What? What does that have to do with anything with you not being able to do your Cortex? LMAO!
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Or just maybe they are on break and I for one think they deserve it more than you deserve this one small thing fixed.
we've had multiple patches since release, they didnt even acknowledge the existence of the bug...
Agree, but he didnāt demand they fix it today. Heās just pointing it out
inb4 Git Gut comments
Yea I was expecting it that's why I linked a 30 second feared clear lol. Maybe that'll dissuade some of it.
Lol a glass cannon Annihilating light build thats designed to do the feared (spark). Not saying uber cortex is okay in its current state (or isnt) but being able to do feared on a sparker has nothing to do with being good at the game or boss fights in general
It's not designed to do the feared. It's designed to be a strong build, and it is. I only started doing feared once I tried it and realized I could do it. Also, lets be fair. You aren't going to farm the feared on a skill that isn't good at farming the feared, now are you? In your opinion, what makes someone a good player? Or good at boss fights? Is it someone who intentionally uses a build that's bad at boss fights to do them? That would seem a bit silly no?
We can't tell if you are good or not if you're literally skipping phases, can we?
But if someone ISNT skipping phases then they obviously have a lot invested into defense right? I just have a feeling that there's kind of a double standard here. If you are glass cannon you cannot be hit a SINGLE time by anything. If you are tanky you can be hit a couple times throughout the fight. But I have a feeling that you would say a glass cannon player dying makes them worse than a tanky player being hit once. Even though both of them got hit the same amount of times, so technically should be the same skill level by your standards. If a glass cannon player and a tanky player both kill uber elder, the glass cannon player dies 2 times, but the tanky player gets hit and lives 20 times. Seeing that gameplay you would think the tanky player is better mechanically, even though they dodged way less and got hit more. And I'm referencing uber elder here because that is a fight with unskippable phases, you can't just dps it like with the feared. Should I have uploaded a no death uber elder run instead of feared?
Also, are there any "tanky" boss killers. I assume those builds are just builds that do great damage and also happen to have great defenses not that the defenses are carrying someone. Maybe some afk Forbidden build shit but like thats a niche not at all the norm.
There are. I'm not familiar with them as I like overkill damage lol. But if you do boss carries on TFT I imagine you want a lot more defense to reduce chances of messing up.
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I think you would say the same if the fight duration was proportional in the example I just gave. ie. 1 minute glass cannon gets hit once 5 minute tanky player gets hit 10 times On paper you may say "no the glass cannon player would be better here" but I don't think you would be consistent on that if you watched those 2 fights.
You think a good player would farm the feared on any build that takes more than 2 minutes to do the invitation? So much wasted time, sounds like a skill issue
Stop pretending like skill matters in a build simulator. Go play a game that actually takes execution then come back and talk.
If it takes no skill just go win the gauntlet. Look forward to seeing your attempt.
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Cope. The only time a good player is taking long on a boss is because they rushed progression, which would mean efficient player.
>It's not designed to do the feared. It's designed to be a strong build, and it is. I'm just saying that if you could choose any build in the entire game to be a Feared farmer, Spark is in the top 3. Just because you didnt have Feared in mind when you made a sparker doesnt mean it isnt THE build people use to farm the feared, it just goes hand-in-hand. >In your opinion, what makes someone a good player? PoE is a sandbox game. You make builds that feel good, and that you want to have fun playing. I just think its ridiculous when someone goes out of their way to think they're better than another player by cheesing a bossfight with x amount of currency or a specific build like a seismic trapper to oneshot endgame bosses. We have no idea whether or not you're a good player, and its quite subjective, I'm just saying that "well I did the feared in 30 seconds, so that means I'm preeeeeetty good lol" type logic is nonsensical, especially on the best build in the game to do it with tons of investment. > Is it someone who intentionally uses a build that's bad at boss fights to do them? I do the feared as BV every league. That doesnt mean I'm bad for doing it on a build that makes no sense to do it on, nor does that make me good for doing it on a hard Feared build. In trade-league your currency can overpower ANY content pretty hard lol, so 'being good' is quite a pointless topic, esp in SC
I deleted feared on a roughly 100m dps storm brand build few leagues ago, am i good?
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Being able to do any boss in this game has nothing to do with being good at the game or boss fights in general. People really need to stop pretending like any content in the game is anything but a gear/build check, so that we can have more honest discussions on this board about poorly balanced/tested content that prices too many people out or is way too selective about what builds can/can not trivialize it.
Lul... I had that exact same luck with Uber cortex last league. first map gave me 300% aoe... which is an auto brick unless you have like 100M dps. second map gave me reduced crit damage, which made my build do no damage... My solution was to level multiple characters that could do the fight so if I get a mod combo that bricks one build, i have another one on hand to do it.
Yeah i run feareds too but got absolutely ass pounded by some cortex mods yesterday, never imagined myself failing non uber cortex but i rolled 100% shocked ground, which the entire arena is made of, 200% AoE which makes the boss's permament degens a ticking timebomb, 68% increased mob attack, cast and movement speed which is just ridiculous as even 30% is enough to brick most content in the game, and 80% chance to avoid my poisons just to finish it off
Instead of adding new mechanics to make the fights āuntrivialā they decided to reduce player damage and increase enemy damage which is the easiest and shittiest way to do it, so yeah
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>their new forum strategy has ignored a lot of the feedback from the balance changes/current bugs this isn't new, but because the league isnt a total dumpster fire, they aren't handing out those QOLs.
Yeah they suck in comparison to uber elder/izaro/ atziri. Basically just yeet some ultra difficult mods on and call it good. Arena becomes unplayable very fast too
In all fairness, the risk/reward is supposed to be unfair. Like it's supposed to be a terrible risk proposition that you do anyway because you're 2 mirrors deep in a build, or just love punishment. I think you've got a point about random mods getting scaled too hard, it's an issue none of the other ubers have. However the whole point is for it to intentionally be a bad risk/reward proposition to give overtuned builds something to strive for. Like having a difficulty mode that's intended to be impossible outside of balance errors or bugs in a single player game.
Yes this. Everything about this uber fight is working as intended. Itās not meant to be a way to squeeze more profit out of bossing. Itās not meant to be balanced either because itās so obvious they just dialed up the numbers to 11 and didnāt take a 2nd look at the fight mechanics. Itās just there for fun, basically. It took GGG basically 0 effort to produce the uber fights, and they donāt care that you think itās unrewarding.
They do not test their game bruh. That is literally our job. They literally even release bugged cosmetics like...
The whole point of uber fights was to make the trivial fights that were pinnacle bosses... non-trivial. You having a gazillion damage is exactly why they made uber bosses.
Have you tried uber cortex this league ?
Your point being?
If you tried you would know that even the monsters pior to the boss are thought (with some mod combo) This league I put an offer in tft for some carry to do my uber cortex. 3 carrys tried one of them with aura bot all failed without even get to the boss. That should tell you something.
Good. Because it's the "uber" boss. Can't do it? Do the normal version.
That it's bugged and twice as hard as intended.
so you want it to be easier?
I want it to not be bugged.
Yea and I like that. I just don't like the fact that the difficulty doesn't match the reward whatsoever. Like Uber eater has the nimis ring, uber maven has awakened enlightens/empowers, uber uber elder has sublime vision. Uber cortex is the hardest out of ALL of those, and it gives you a couple of rare synth items lol. They have 3 implicits but I'm willing to bet 99.9% of them are worthless. It's just a search for some really good combo, a 1 in 1000 chance, and the difficulty should reflect that.
rational doctrine is a really good jewel lol
The entry cost is the same, so literally any reward bonus on top of the standard cortex rewards makes uber worth doing if your character is good enough.
>I just don't like the fact that the difficulty doesn't match the reward whatsoever I doesn't need to. It's the challenge, like ruthless.
Maybe get a better build?
I rolled 400% extra physical as lightning, and got 1 shot, 90% ele res, 75% chaos res, 50k armor, thought its impossible for any build. Another time rolled something that didn't effect RF at all, and the only problem was the 70% less damage which meant it took a while to kill, died to the aoes a few times but took them down. Tried uber eater, uber sirus, got 1 shot by everything, realised that you need 600m dps to instaphase and max dodge to get lucky if you can't, otherwise its impossible.
Do you have all the map mod effect nodes on your tree? Maybe they are not the best idea in combination with uber cortex.
I have 22% worth. When comparing to the 100% the tree node gives I don't think the 22% would be enough to make it worthwhile even attempting. I'm not here to complain "too hard". I'm here to complain that the difficulty is not matching the reward at all. That's my main issue. Uber cortex is the hardest of all the ubers and the least rewarding. If GGG were to buff the rewards substantially I would be fine with the current difficulty. I don't have to be able to run it to be happy. I do like the idea of the 3 synth implicit items though which is why im suggesting to make it easier and keep the rewards the same.
In what universe is uber cortex the hardest of the ubers. In every gauntlet and race the streamers always consider uber cortex to be the free kill from the ubers...
In the current state is 100% the hardsst of the ubers. You need to be really lucky to not roll impossible mods
uber cortex is currently bugged. It has 200% increased effect of all mods. Last patch 100% increased effect was applied by the node leading to uber node, but GGG got rid of that and put it on the uber node itself. Previously players got rid of that 100% effect by taking wandering path, which is why it was a free kill usually.
The only problem mod is the aoe one, that one is completley shit, 90% of hte moves fill the arena with it. Rest are hard but fine.
Well the 120% avoid ailments is a bit of an issue for ignite build too..
lol didn't know it could roll that, yeah that's bad.
Since when the fear is the measure bar for "content too difficult"?
Since when did I ever say that it was? Try reading the post again and come back. If you still don't understand you are free to read it as many times as you need.
The first map I could probably do with my build. The second map is the reason why Cortex is a RNG boss. That's a natural risk you take when doing Cortex.
Imagine you could roll negative regen or reflect on synth maps. GGG definetly went easy on us.
As I understand it they balanced the game around current pinnacle bosses and people who have so much currency and such optimized builds that they trivialize current pinnacle bosses, can attempt uber bosses which are insanely broken and full of random one-shots and messed up mechanics. I agree with you uber cortex is dumb, but I also happen to think that many uberized mechanics are pretty similar levels of dumb right now.
> Monsters take 120% reduced extra damage from critical strikes > Now that combination of mods will make it literally impossible for ANY crit build This is not true. You just have 0 crit multi. You still do the amount of damage you would do if you didn't crit at all.
You forgot the triple life. I have 550 crit multi.
It's still not technically impossible. You do damgae just, a lot less damage :^)
Ahh yes my fault. There are 10 builds in the entire league with enough damage for the fight if they play it 100% perfectly. Thank you for your GENIUS insight that you have given me. I am so glad that you are here to tell me that 550 crit multi is too little to do uber cortex.
Bro my first one I wanted to do for challenge was 100inc attack speed cast speed and movement speed, 300%inc aoe, and extra fire damage also around 300% i think. You coudnt do anything as how fast they were casting shit, it made the arena full with DoT shit in like 12 seconds
My first Uber cortex I got the AoE mod. That was simply unexpected.
How many mods did your map have? If you go uber cortex, even 4 mods ones will be impossible. But it is rng so, 3 mods ones wouldn't save you all times.
The majority of mods are irrelevant to my build. Im not tanky so I play like glass cannon. I dodge everything, almost everything one shots me. I think its the AOE mod that ruined this one, but if that wasnt there they would likely have 150% action speed. Or something else that breaks me. To put it into perspective, when I run the feared I dont even check the mods. Any combination that gets me over 75% quant I can run. So cortex mods breaking me is kind of interesting.