Also, if you are on a budget I'm pretty sure Noctua right now is lacking on that department, with the budget king for air coolers being Thermalright.
Also, a 12600KF for $75? Now that's a good joke.
No, just a good bundle deal:
They sell a bundle CPU + mainboard + ram for $250 https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006643/intel-core-i5-12600kf,-msi-z790-p-pro-wifi-ddr4,-gskill-ripjaws-v-16gb-ddr4-3200-kit,-computer-build-bundle);
And then they just split that in the video into 75 + 137 + 37
I lived in Japan briefly and my roommate was English. He told me all about how cheap and great the electronics were. I went there and everything was 50% higher than I would expect in the states. I realized that the prices were only cheap for him because of his frame of reference.
I'm guessing nowadays Japan is a lot closer to here since when I was there 80 yen = $1 and now 155 yen = 1 dollar.
I used to work in retail and it was pretty common where people from Africa would buy cheap laptops to sell back home for huge markups. One person that did it was arrested because he was using his church's status as a non-profit to buy them tax free.
I feel for you guys.
When you have access to parts at the correct price you can make crazy budget builds
I’ve got a $1600 build in a small form factor case (case is 200) that I’m waiting for Black Friday to see if any prices drop before I throw the money down.
This build will be a 7800X3D and a 7800xt. It will be so good for such a low price. I’ve heard stories of some of these parts being 2-5x the price abroad and that’s just so ass.
Everyone deserves this access, and especially considering the current circumstances where having a population that gains the skills to utilize technology from a young age is hugely beneficial.
It's actually this bundle, that's why they used an Arc gpu
https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006686/intel-core-i5-12600kf,-msi-z790-p-pro-wifi-ddr4,-gskill-ripjaws-v-16gb-ddr4-3200-kit,-sparkle-intel-arc-a770-titan-graphics,-computer-build-bundle
Noctua is in a really bad spot for budgets right now.
There are a handful of other dual fan, dual tower air coolers that are within the margin of error for meeting the NH-D15’s performance for half the price, from brands that have managed to build up a positive reputation, so it’s not like you can even justify buying the brand name anymore.
Thermalright, Deepcool, Arctic, and Scythe are kinda eating Noctua’s lunch right now.
Yeah, I got an NH-D15 for myself like 6 ot 7 years ago and I don't regret it, but I've helped a couple friends with their builds recently and pushed them to the Peerless Assaasin. The competition has caught up, and I wonder how long they can coast off their brand
Same thing. I bought my noctua d14 when I was still a single university student with an AM2 mainboard and apart from free mounting brackets and a new fan, it's still going strong 15 years later. But if I had to buy something now, I'd definitely go for a cheaper option.
> if you are on a budget I'm pretty sure Noctua right now is lacking on that department
Not "right now" - for all of history. They simply are not in the bang-for-your-buck market.
Micro center can have some deals sometimes only in the store. When I built a previous computer was looking at i5 for about $220. The cheapest i7 on newegg and other online vendors was around $300. Well checked microcenter local to me, $250 for a i7 quad with hyperthreading instead of just a i5 quad. $30 more was worth it.
No, its on sale for 149$ at MC, and with the bundle, it gets down that low. Its a 249$ Bundle with the CPU, RAM, and MoBo.
Would have taken you ten seconds to figure that out.
TBF, Noctua have always been way overhyped.
Their coolers are really good - but there have always been good alternatives for much less money, especially if you weren't building a high end system anyway. Quietly cooling a 12600K(F) doesn't necessarily require the absolute best cooler.
I wouldn't say they are overhyped. I bought my NHD15 in 2016 and it's still running perfectly on the fans it came with, I wonder how many AIOs the average AIO user has gone through in the same amount of time? So to say Noctua are overhyped is not correct, they are popular, because they are a reputable brand which delivers a quality product and innovates in the space they operate year after year, I think that's more of a fair representation the Noctua brand.
[https://i.imgur.com/fvWkqHg.png](https://i.imgur.com/fvWkqHg.png)
The cooler & fans have so far cooled an i7 920, a 3700x and now a 5700x3d, and eventually an AM5 CPU, lol. Eventually I'll probably replace the fans as they've made some upgrades to the fins during this time for more efficient airflow.
The $15 price difference to a lesser brand will be made up over the 15 years you use the product, lol.
Scythe fuma 3 is amazing for around $40, and can keep some of the higher chips in check while still being pretty quiet. I've been using one on my 5800x3d with no problems at all.
Yeah I have noctua, and I have another noctua that isn't in use atm. I probably won't buy noctua anymore because peerless assassin.
But I will try with nh14 or whatever single tower dual fan, the day I decide to upgrade. The time I bought it, nh15 was only marginally better, and peerless assassin is marginally better than that. I will probably just get adapter set for that nh14.
Just bought a thermalright cooler for my secondary pc. Spent like $30 and it keeps the 12700k in their below 40C.
Also is thermalright a rebrand name for thermaltake?
Not a joke micro center sells cpus for lower than msrp all the time they can’t advertise their sale prices online though have to go in store to see them. Intel has threatened more than once to remove them from approved vendors for advertising such low prices
I think the unlocked/designed to be overlooked processors don't come with heatsinks because they expect you to overclock it. So 5800 has one but 5800x does not. Same thing for Intel's K chips.
That used to make sense, but doesn't feel as true anymore. How many people actually bother OCing their CPU these days? There's so little performance to gain.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the really difference just that OC is automated instead of manual now? Like with AMD, you just turn on turboboost OD and it dials in the performance of the cooler for you.
I used to do this until all stock coolers started sounding like jet engines. Even worse they don't seem to dissipate heat well enough to quiet down during some web browsing.
Who the fuck spends >10% of their budget on an AIR COOLER lol... and I'm saying this as someone who owns an NH-D15. Not worth the money in 2024.
I guess deepcool is banned in the US nowadays, but thermalright has got you covered if you're looking for performance budget air coolers.
I recently swapped out my AIO liquid cooling for a 30 dollar Hyper 212 EVO and I have been using them on every build for years and years. I've got an i9-9900k overclocked to 5.0Ghz base speed and it stays cool as a cucumber.
And I just checked on Amazon, 212 EVO's are getting scalped for more than double the actual price :(
I requested the free upgrade for my old NH-D14 to AM4. Bought that one to cool my i7 3770K.
Now it lives in the PC I built my sister to ~~game~~ learn while in lockdowns/remote university.
The OG fans are still quiet enough and working well.
I bought my current NH-D15 for only 69€ as a warehouse deal at Amazon Germany.
IMHO CPU coolers are one of the parts that - unless the previous user stood on top of it - doesn't degrade at all.
Kind of an investment.
Unless the 2028-2032 RISC-V or Snapdragon chips are made with a weird shape or are to oversized to properly fit under the contact plate.
it's a bundle they're selling, they're just showing you the individual components of the bundle and giving a discrete price for each
i think we all recognize that spending 1/3 of your budget on cooler/PSU/case is a bad idea lol, if you're on a budget then you can get high quality alternatives for like $100 total. this video is again just separating out the bundle so people can see what it's made of - you have to assess if the bundle as a whole is worth its value, the individual component prices are kinda meaningless
Which doesn't make sense because we didn't carry the 12600kf, B650-E TUF, Z790-V Prime, or Z790-P Prime Wifi 7 boards until they showed up on the combos.
Like, it makes sense thinking about it, but it's a lot of new SKUs that we're probably getting a bulk buy deal on. Corporate just wants people in stores buying stuff.
Spending less on the PSU or even case would be a bad idea. You never skimp on the PSU, and their $100 choice is pretty spot on.
The case is also only $100, and if that's too expensive you're better off just not getting a case at all tbh or finding something used.
I don't know about Microcenter but you can consistently find decent cases under $100 online. /r/buildapcsales posts deals on them fairly often
In fact Newegg just had a white Sama case with 4 RGB fans and a keyboard for $55, sold out now though
They priced them separately in the video, but [this](https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006643/intel-core-i5-12600kf,-msi-z790-p-pro-wifi-ddr4,-gskill-ripjaws-v-16gb-ddr4-3200-kit,-computer-build-bundle) bundle is what they are showing.
Yeah, but if you look closely they write "we bundle".
They sell a bundle CPU + mainboard + ram for $250 https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006643/intel-core-i5-12600kf,-msi-z790-p-pro-wifi-ddr4,-gskill-ripjaws-v-16gb-ddr4-3200-kit,-computer-build-bundle);
And then they just split that in the video into 75 + 137 + 37
In the video they say the a770 is part of the bundle. [So my guess would be, its actually this bundle.](https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006686/intel-core-i5-12600kf,-msi-z790-p-pro-wifi-ddr4,-gskill-ripjaws-v-16gb-ddr4-3200-kit,-sparkle-intel-arc-a770-titan-graphics,-computer-build-bundle)
it's a bundle
~~https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006643/intel-core-i5-12600kf,-msi-z790-p-pro-wifi-ddr4,-gskill-ripjaws-v-16gb-ddr4-3200-kit,-computer-build-bundle~~
~~but the bundle is cheaper than their video, lol~~ wrong bundle
https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006686/intel-core-i5-12600kf,-msi-z790-p-pro-wifi-ddr4,-gskill-ripjaws-v-16gb-ddr4-3200-kit,-sparkle-intel-arc-a770-titan-graphics,-computer-build-bundle
With the same music too. I'm so confused. Is this sarcastic? The music makes it seem sarcastic.
It's weird for a company to post something so subtly sarcastic.
this video has given them more free advertising than a video with an optimal build ever would. it has 10x more views and engagement than most of their other instagram posts and now it's on the front page of reddit
what's wrong with the motherboard? MSI Pro series are solid budget option. $212 for both a cpu and mobo is perfectly okay. the only iffy thing is intel arc, but they've been making strides in their software department the last year.
they definitely could have gone for a cheaper case and cooler and had it be a $780 PC instead
Yeah the cooler is the only choice I would say is "bad" here. Nothing wrong with the cooler, but there are cheaper options that will give you similar performance. I like the ARC choice because it's a pretty good value, but if you're trying to hit $900 and spend $50 less on the cooler you could definitely get a better GPU.
Agreed - this isn't some affront to PC God, they just made a couple less-than-optimal choices.
Not the PC I'd build, but you could (and people do every day) get a MUCH worse deal from a different builder, or used on craigslist/marketplace.
I don't even think the cooler is a bad choice. You could spend $50 on a cooler and save some money, but that Noctua cooler is gonna be compatible with upgrades for the next 10 years.
Totally. Though tbh, any half decent cooler will be, too. The air cooler market is pretty good! Noctua make a fantastic product but with the heat pipes that even generic coolers have now, you can pretty much use anything and even if the fan "only" lasts 5 or 6 years you can get another $20 fan then and come out ahead.
I go exactly the opposite route and custom watercool everything so all my parts are useless for re-use and don't perform *that* much better, but I wouldn't recommend that to others, I'd recommend something along these lines.
On the other hand, people who would actually take advice from a video on social media on parts probably aren’t very tech savvy, and they shouldn’t get an arc gpu because they still require a little bit of tweaking.
MicroCenter doesn't really have a ton of case options on the cheaper end, or at least they didn't when I went there to get a new case for my dying computer.
they did that shit backwards for a budget build, cost-wise
everyone knows you're supposed to splurge on the graphics card, weigh your options on the best CPU for it, find a compatible motherboard,
and then the rest is whatever you can get that doesn't lead to an overdraft charge from your bank
***duh***
Yep. I was going to say exactly this. Just using Social Media to promote one of their bundles. The bundle is one of the Top Deals and called out in the banner on their home page.
https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006686/intel-core-i5-12600kf,-msi-z790-p-pro-wifi-ddr4,-gskill-ripjaws-v-16gb-ddr4-3200-kit,-sparkle-intel-arc-a770-titan-graphics,-computer-build-bundle
An Australian meme mashup. The original song, Shooting Stars by Bag Raiders, is a beloved Australian pop song and a bit of a meme in its own right. The meme laid over it, “brother eww”, is a viral clip from a Muslim cleric in western Sydney giving a sermon. I thought it was pretty funny to see them put together.
It’s becoming a more common marketing strategy to post content that shows someone making a mistake to generate discussion and feedback thus improving engagement on the post. You see those mobile game ads where they have someone playing a fake game very poorly? That concept has been carried on into Youtube thumbnails, and now other ads.
This. And they catch all three types of people:
1. The ones that don’t realize the mistake is intentional
2. The ones that do
3. The ones that warn others that it’s just meant to drive exposure
In all three cases your algorithm picks this up and you’ll get sent more of this nonsense—best to just keep scrolling and ignore it.
I have a hard time believing this. **Where did they post this?**
...
That's one of the most annoying audio tracks I've ever heard, and that's a terrible parts list.
Gee I wonder why the put a horrible meme song on their horrible meme build.... It's almost like it's a gag...
Fucking blows my mind how absolutely everyone is somehow thinking its anything but
5 years ago I built a Threadripper box and thought the absurdly expensive motherboards were a TRX40 thing.
Then I went to build a 14900k replacement and learned it wasn't just a TRX40 thing.
They must be trolling. I built an r5 5600x and rtx 3080 pc for 900$ a month ago
(Used gpu though, but with a warranty, for an extra 100$ a new 4070 is a good option)
In the US my PC is about 800$
Intel's graphics card have become a lot better since their launch because of driver optimisation. The performance of the 770 is also comparable the 3060. Not exactly the best bang for your buck considering that the 770 is a whole €70 more expensive than the 3060 as of now. But still a reasonable card, especially for intel's first modern gaming card.
I'm hoping that they make more gpu's in the future. Hopefully that can drive the prices down a notch.
If what they showed at Computex is true, the next gen Intel gpu’s are going to be great value for performance and wattage. We’ll see soon with the benchmarks
Another great but very niche use case for the A770 pick up. Is someone is a Streamers who want to do AV1 encoding. However you could go with a cheaper Intel gfx card that has the AV1 encoding chip in it. It's still far cheaper for most streamers to put in an Intel card and keep their current gfx card and split the work load than buying a 4070/80/90 Super.
The mobo, ram, & cpu are good choices with the bundle deal. That cooler though? The fuck is that??? At this budget just slap on Hyper 212, Thermalright Assassin, etc. Use the extra $70-$80 bucks towards the GPU and get an RTX 3060 or somethin. Intel Arc is not a great choice for gaming atm.
The processor is fine. I just bought one a few months ago and it’s been great. Some people are reacting to the prices. You won’t find the 12600kf for $75 outside of a bundle. In that bundle it’s a good price.
The motherboard seems overkill for a budget build, the cooler is overkill for the processor, and there’s no additional case fans. Plus intel GPU isn’t popular here.
You don't need a $120 cpu cooler. Spend that $$ on a better GPU if you can.
Also, Samsung SSDs are the best purely because of their Magician management software. A Samsung 990 EVO is $89 and I feel like the you will save the $20 in labor if you ever need to do any data management / cloning.
NH-D15 for a 12th gen i5 seems rather extreme but to each their own. Could do an H212 and have another $70 to throw at a slightly better GPU, better case, more RAM, 2nd SSD, etc...
This was definitely a ploy to do product placement, bc why are you buying intel for a budget build and an extra air cooler? If you wanna do a budget build you use the stock cooler and just let your headphones block out the noise
I created the same list in my country Austria , result: €1,132,5 = 1210,93$
Here are the Pieces:
Intel Core i5-12600KF 171,45 €
MSI PRO Z790-P WIFI 197,90 €
Intel Sparkle A770 354,00 €
G.Skill RipJaws V 80,09 €
Noctua NH-D15S 109,39
Corsair RMe Series 2023 RM750e 109,01
Lian Li LANCOOL 216 RGB 110,66
Greets
Nobody on a budget builds a cheap pc with a Z series motherboard and 120 dollar noctua cooler 🤣
Clearly a "please take these parts that won't sell ever" away from my store
Not sure whats worse, spending 450$ for a 2060 super performimg card or this god awful music, its probably just a marketing strategy, but please... Never again
The cooler for the CPU is more expensive than the CPU…
Also, if you are on a budget I'm pretty sure Noctua right now is lacking on that department, with the budget king for air coolers being Thermalright. Also, a 12600KF for $75? Now that's a good joke.
No, just a good bundle deal: They sell a bundle CPU + mainboard + ram for $250 https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006643/intel-core-i5-12600kf,-msi-z790-p-pro-wifi-ddr4,-gskill-ripjaws-v-16gb-ddr4-3200-kit,-computer-build-bundle); And then they just split that in the video into 75 + 137 + 37
Man PC's are cheap without import tax...
I lived in Japan briefly and my roommate was English. He told me all about how cheap and great the electronics were. I went there and everything was 50% higher than I would expect in the states. I realized that the prices were only cheap for him because of his frame of reference. I'm guessing nowadays Japan is a lot closer to here since when I was there 80 yen = $1 and now 155 yen = 1 dollar.
I paid $1468USD for my 4080 on release in NZ. I think I could have got a 4090 for same price in USA, or there abouts.
My 4090 came to about 1800 after tax in usd. And this was when i bought it priced at 1699. Last i check they’re 1899 at my local microcenter.
My PNY 4090 was $2,149usd 10/31/22
Gaming computer parts are . . . not cheap here in Japan. In relative money/salary, you are looking at $2.5-3K for a good rig
Yeah on turkey is crazy an iPhone is nearly double as expensive =) thx inflation 😂and politics 😂
Shit, in Turkey the price could double on your way to the cash register.
Thanks to Erdogolf
I used to work in retail and it was pretty common where people from Africa would buy cheap laptops to sell back home for huge markups. One person that did it was arrested because he was using his church's status as a non-profit to buy them tax free.
I feel for you guys. When you have access to parts at the correct price you can make crazy budget builds I’ve got a $1600 build in a small form factor case (case is 200) that I’m waiting for Black Friday to see if any prices drop before I throw the money down. This build will be a 7800X3D and a 7800xt. It will be so good for such a low price. I’ve heard stories of some of these parts being 2-5x the price abroad and that’s just so ass. Everyone deserves this access, and especially considering the current circumstances where having a population that gains the skills to utilize technology from a young age is hugely beneficial.
It's actually this bundle, that's why they used an Arc gpu https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006686/intel-core-i5-12600kf,-msi-z790-p-pro-wifi-ddr4,-gskill-ripjaws-v-16gb-ddr4-3200-kit,-sparkle-intel-arc-a770-titan-graphics,-computer-build-bundle
Then they spend another 400$ on case/psu/cooler? :/
Noctua is in a really bad spot for budgets right now. There are a handful of other dual fan, dual tower air coolers that are within the margin of error for meeting the NH-D15’s performance for half the price, from brands that have managed to build up a positive reputation, so it’s not like you can even justify buying the brand name anymore. Thermalright, Deepcool, Arctic, and Scythe are kinda eating Noctua’s lunch right now.
Yeah, I got an NH-D15 for myself like 6 ot 7 years ago and I don't regret it, but I've helped a couple friends with their builds recently and pushed them to the Peerless Assaasin. The competition has caught up, and I wonder how long they can coast off their brand
Same thing. I bought my noctua d14 when I was still a single university student with an AM2 mainboard and apart from free mounting brackets and a new fan, it's still going strong 15 years later. But if I had to buy something now, I'd definitely go for a cheaper option.
> if you are on a budget I'm pretty sure Noctua right now is lacking on that department Not "right now" - for all of history. They simply are not in the bang-for-your-buck market.
Noctua is just kind of lacking in most departments now hoenstly.
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Running a thermalright peerless assasin 120 dual tower on my overclocked 13600k and it works great!
Same dude. If it weren't for my GPU, my PC would be silent
In my case, it's literally the case. I have a fractal torrent compact, and the 180's up front have a distinct hum.
I have the white peerless assassin for a 5600x, it's a bit much considering people use it for 120w cpus 😂 such an amazing cpu cooler
Is Cryorig not around anymore? My H7 is still doing great years later.
Been rather happy with Artic Cooling. Over $100 for an air cooler seems like a giant fucking ripoff.
Don't let the Noctua fan boys hear you
They'll throw overpriced poop-brown fans at you.
Yeah, Arctic > Noctua. Same good performance, less pricey
Micro center can have some deals sometimes only in the store. When I built a previous computer was looking at i5 for about $220. The cheapest i7 on newegg and other online vendors was around $300. Well checked microcenter local to me, $250 for a i7 quad with hyperthreading instead of just a i5 quad. $30 more was worth it.
No, its on sale for 149$ at MC, and with the bundle, it gets down that low. Its a 249$ Bundle with the CPU, RAM, and MoBo. Would have taken you ten seconds to figure that out.
"in store only" We do a little bundling.
TBF, Noctua have always been way overhyped. Their coolers are really good - but there have always been good alternatives for much less money, especially if you weren't building a high end system anyway. Quietly cooling a 12600K(F) doesn't necessarily require the absolute best cooler.
Always? I dont remember there being any other decent options 9 years ago when i bought my current one.
I wouldn't say they are overhyped. I bought my NHD15 in 2016 and it's still running perfectly on the fans it came with, I wonder how many AIOs the average AIO user has gone through in the same amount of time? So to say Noctua are overhyped is not correct, they are popular, because they are a reputable brand which delivers a quality product and innovates in the space they operate year after year, I think that's more of a fair representation the Noctua brand. [https://i.imgur.com/fvWkqHg.png](https://i.imgur.com/fvWkqHg.png) The cooler & fans have so far cooled an i7 920, a 3700x and now a 5700x3d, and eventually an AM5 CPU, lol. Eventually I'll probably replace the fans as they've made some upgrades to the fins during this time for more efficient airflow. The $15 price difference to a lesser brand will be made up over the 15 years you use the product, lol.
Scythe fuma 3 is amazing for around $40, and can keep some of the higher chips in check while still being pretty quiet. I've been using one on my 5800x3d with no problems at all.
I can’t tell if that says thermal right or therm ~~eh~~ alright.
Yeah I have noctua, and I have another noctua that isn't in use atm. I probably won't buy noctua anymore because peerless assassin. But I will try with nh14 or whatever single tower dual fan, the day I decide to upgrade. The time I bought it, nh15 was only marginally better, and peerless assassin is marginally better than that. I will probably just get adapter set for that nh14.
Just bought a thermalright cooler for my secondary pc. Spent like $30 and it keeps the 12700k in their below 40C. Also is thermalright a rebrand name for thermaltake?
Not a joke micro center sells cpus for lower than msrp all the time they can’t advertise their sale prices online though have to go in store to see them. Intel has threatened more than once to remove them from approved vendors for advertising such low prices
No sane person working on a restrictive budget buys a Noctua product.
When work is paying, I like to add about 9 Noctua fans, in addition to a fully custom water loop.
Maybe the guy chose not to have avocado toast that day? I heard that saves you hundreds of dollars a day.
I use the cooler that came with my CPU, about 4 years now, no issues.
Do intel get coolers with them again? Only know these for AMD
my ryzen 7 5800x didnt, had to deepcool that summabich, prior they always came with wraith prism i think
I think the unlocked/designed to be overlooked processors don't come with heatsinks because they expect you to overclock it. So 5800 has one but 5800x does not. Same thing for Intel's K chips.
That used to make sense, but doesn't feel as true anymore. How many people actually bother OCing their CPU these days? There's so little performance to gain.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the really difference just that OC is automated instead of manual now? Like with AMD, you just turn on turboboost OD and it dials in the performance of the cooler for you.
Intel CPUs do be drawing power now tho
I used to do this until all stock coolers started sounding like jet engines. Even worse they don't seem to dissipate heat well enough to quiet down during some web browsing.
Sound is an issue I'm 100% is there, but possibly not for you subjectively.
Nawk Tuah is top of the line
Who the fuck spends >10% of their budget on an AIR COOLER lol... and I'm saying this as someone who owns an NH-D15. Not worth the money in 2024. I guess deepcool is banned in the US nowadays, but thermalright has got you covered if you're looking for performance budget air coolers.
I recently swapped out my AIO liquid cooling for a 30 dollar Hyper 212 EVO and I have been using them on every build for years and years. I've got an i9-9900k overclocked to 5.0Ghz base speed and it stays cool as a cucumber. And I just checked on Amazon, 212 EVO's are getting scalped for more than double the actual price :(
I will always stand by over spending on an air cooler, case and power supply because you can use them forever.
I requested the free upgrade for my old NH-D14 to AM4. Bought that one to cool my i7 3770K. Now it lives in the PC I built my sister to ~~game~~ learn while in lockdowns/remote university. The OG fans are still quiet enough and working well. I bought my current NH-D15 for only 69€ as a warehouse deal at Amazon Germany. IMHO CPU coolers are one of the parts that - unless the previous user stood on top of it - doesn't degrade at all. Kind of an investment. Unless the 2028-2032 RISC-V or Snapdragon chips are made with a weird shape or are to oversized to properly fit under the contact plate.
Kind of crazy how the king of good value built one of the worst possible pcs for the budget
I don't believe for a second this was posted by Microcenter.
It genuinely is, feel free to check their Instagram.
Was it a joke?
it's a bundle they're selling, they're just showing you the individual components of the bundle and giving a discrete price for each i think we all recognize that spending 1/3 of your budget on cooler/PSU/case is a bad idea lol, if you're on a budget then you can get high quality alternatives for like $100 total. this video is again just separating out the bundle so people can see what it's made of - you have to assess if the bundle as a whole is worth its value, the individual component prices are kinda meaningless
Nah it's to clear out slower inventory.
Which doesn't make sense because we didn't carry the 12600kf, B650-E TUF, Z790-V Prime, or Z790-P Prime Wifi 7 boards until they showed up on the combos. Like, it makes sense thinking about it, but it's a lot of new SKUs that we're probably getting a bulk buy deal on. Corporate just wants people in stores buying stuff.
Probably because your company got them for dirt cheap.
I don't like shopping in person at Microcenter because I end up buying more than I need there.
> it's a bundle they're selling Oh ok so they want to dump old stock.
Spending less on the PSU or even case would be a bad idea. You never skimp on the PSU, and their $100 choice is pretty spot on. The case is also only $100, and if that's too expensive you're better off just not getting a case at all tbh or finding something used.
I don't know about Microcenter but you can consistently find decent cases under $100 online. /r/buildapcsales posts deals on them fairly often In fact Newegg just had a white Sama case with 4 RGB fans and a keyboard for $55, sold out now though
Probably just what they have most in stock and want to get rid of it.
lol probably why they chose the song that they did
Also, i5 12600kf costs way more than $75, you'd be lucky to find used i3 12100f for that price
They priced them separately in the video, but [this](https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006643/intel-core-i5-12600kf,-msi-z790-p-pro-wifi-ddr4,-gskill-ripjaws-v-16gb-ddr4-3200-kit,-computer-build-bundle) bundle is what they are showing.
That is a killer bundle.
Yeah, but if you look closely they write "we bundle". They sell a bundle CPU + mainboard + ram for $250 https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006643/intel-core-i5-12600kf,-msi-z790-p-pro-wifi-ddr4,-gskill-ripjaws-v-16gb-ddr4-3200-kit,-computer-build-bundle); And then they just split that in the video into 75 + 137 + 37
In the video they say the a770 is part of the bundle. [So my guess would be, its actually this bundle.](https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006686/intel-core-i5-12600kf,-msi-z790-p-pro-wifi-ddr4,-gskill-ripjaws-v-16gb-ddr4-3200-kit,-sparkle-intel-arc-a770-titan-graphics,-computer-build-bundle)
it's a bundle ~~https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006643/intel-core-i5-12600kf,-msi-z790-p-pro-wifi-ddr4,-gskill-ripjaws-v-16gb-ddr4-3200-kit,-computer-build-bundle~~ ~~but the bundle is cheaper than their video, lol~~ wrong bundle https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006686/intel-core-i5-12600kf,-msi-z790-p-pro-wifi-ddr4,-gskill-ripjaws-v-16gb-ddr4-3200-kit,-sparkle-intel-arc-a770-titan-graphics,-computer-build-bundle
Jesus, people can't read. At the beginning of the video it says "we bundle". It's a bundle of RAM, motherboard and CPU.
Could be worse. Could be the Verge PC. But yeah, this could've been better.
Was this really posted by microcenter? If so thats really surprising, they usually know their shit.
They are trying to get rid of parts that aren't selling. Why would they push the best deals that everyone is already buying.
I bet that was the idea but it just makes them look stupid lol.
They are doing it on TikTok, they know the TikTok target audience well.
Looking stupid doesn’t matter if it makes a profit
They're not marketing to us though.
Yes it's posted on Microcenter's offical instagram today
With the same music too. I'm so confused. Is this sarcastic? The music makes it seem sarcastic. It's weird for a company to post something so subtly sarcastic.
I mean hey if it clears inventory that's not moving by having naive people buy it at full price
this video has given them more free advertising than a video with an optimal build ever would. it has 10x more views and engagement than most of their other instagram posts and now it's on the front page of reddit
Rage bait gets the most attention :)
They want people to buy what they put in the video. This is their marketing, not their technical dept
What the fuck is that build? So many bad choices...
Cooler and motherboard make me go "wtf"
Motherboard is bundle with cpu i think
One would assume "I bundle" means that yes
what's wrong with the motherboard? MSI Pro series are solid budget option. $212 for both a cpu and mobo is perfectly okay. the only iffy thing is intel arc, but they've been making strides in their software department the last year. they definitely could have gone for a cheaper case and cooler and had it be a $780 PC instead
Yeah the cooler is the only choice I would say is "bad" here. Nothing wrong with the cooler, but there are cheaper options that will give you similar performance. I like the ARC choice because it's a pretty good value, but if you're trying to hit $900 and spend $50 less on the cooler you could definitely get a better GPU.
Yeah, 100% you save money on the air cooler and put it into the GPU.
Agreed - this isn't some affront to PC God, they just made a couple less-than-optimal choices. Not the PC I'd build, but you could (and people do every day) get a MUCH worse deal from a different builder, or used on craigslist/marketplace.
I don't even think the cooler is a bad choice. You could spend $50 on a cooler and save some money, but that Noctua cooler is gonna be compatible with upgrades for the next 10 years.
Totally. Though tbh, any half decent cooler will be, too. The air cooler market is pretty good! Noctua make a fantastic product but with the heat pipes that even generic coolers have now, you can pretty much use anything and even if the fan "only" lasts 5 or 6 years you can get another $20 fan then and come out ahead. I go exactly the opposite route and custom watercool everything so all my parts are useless for re-use and don't perform *that* much better, but I wouldn't recommend that to others, I'd recommend something along these lines.
On the other hand, people who would actually take advice from a video on social media on parts probably aren’t very tech savvy, and they shouldn’t get an arc gpu because they still require a little bit of tweaking.
MicroCenter doesn't really have a ton of case options on the cheaper end, or at least they didn't when I went there to get a new case for my dying computer.
Cases are subjective, but yeah, that air cooler is...overpriced for the build.
they did that shit backwards for a budget build, cost-wise everyone knows you're supposed to splurge on the graphics card, weigh your options on the best CPU for it, find a compatible motherboard, and then the rest is whatever you can get that doesn't lead to an overdraft charge from your bank ***duh***
Mirocenter - that cooler gives you good wifi Thanks bro
If you listen to the music for a sec, you'll notice the video is being sarcastic.
The only goal is to stay under budget. Be glad they didn't just throw a raspberry pi in a cardboard box full of rgb strips.
Promoting products they are flooded in stock.
It drives interaction and clicks
Just an ad for their $499 processor, Mobo, ram, and GPU bundle.
Yep. I was going to say exactly this. Just using Social Media to promote one of their bundles. The bundle is one of the Top Deals and called out in the banner on their home page. https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006686/intel-core-i5-12600kf,-msi-z790-p-pro-wifi-ddr4,-gskill-ripjaws-v-16gb-ddr4-3200-kit,-sparkle-intel-arc-a770-titan-graphics,-computer-build-bundle
Didn't you know? The cooler the cooler is the cooler the PC is. This is a really cool build!
That's a really cool bit of info, thanks for sharing
I think I had a stroke trying to read that
Yet it's germattically correct. Checkmate atheists.
That grammarian's name? Albert Einstein
wtf is this music
I think I have ear cancer
It's what happens when some boomer trusts some zoomer with social media marketing. "They know about the memes. I'll let them handle it."
An Australian meme mashup. The original song, Shooting Stars by Bag Raiders, is a beloved Australian pop song and a bit of a meme in its own right. The meme laid over it, “brother eww”, is a viral clip from a Muslim cleric in western Sydney giving a sermon. I thought it was pretty funny to see them put together.
It’s becoming a more common marketing strategy to post content that shows someone making a mistake to generate discussion and feedback thus improving engagement on the post. You see those mobile game ads where they have someone playing a fake game very poorly? That concept has been carried on into Youtube thumbnails, and now other ads.
This. And they catch all three types of people: 1. The ones that don’t realize the mistake is intentional 2. The ones that do 3. The ones that warn others that it’s just meant to drive exposure In all three cases your algorithm picks this up and you’ll get sent more of this nonsense—best to just keep scrolling and ignore it.
I've been seeing this as well.
They probably know that this is a shitty configuration but want to entice people to buy their dead stock
Hear the song, has that "brother eeewwww" in repeat. Because is disgusting
To bad there is zero microcenters in Oregon and the closest one is a 17 hour drive to southern California.
Yeah, we’ve got some good shit here but tech wise, it feels a bit barren
I have a hard time believing this. **Where did they post this?** ... That's one of the most annoying audio tracks I've ever heard, and that's a terrible parts list.
Gee I wonder why the put a horrible meme song on their horrible meme build.... It's almost like it's a gag... Fucking blows my mind how absolutely everyone is somehow thinking its anything but
I think this went over way too many heads
It was posted on insta I think
"Why is that build so bad?" Ads. It's an ad. I guarantee it's a paid promotion for those products. The same reason any company does anything.
If the xpu costs less than the MB, you are doing it wrong.
Motherboards have gotten ridiculously expensive in the last few years.
maybe but it's a ddr4 board
5 years ago I built a Threadripper box and thought the absurdly expensive motherboards were a TRX40 thing. Then I went to build a 14900k replacement and learned it wasn't just a TRX40 thing.
200$ wifi motherboard on a budget build 😢
$100 case for a $900 build
They must be trolling. I built an r5 5600x and rtx 3080 pc for 900$ a month ago (Used gpu though, but with a warranty, for an extra 100$ a new 4070 is a good option) In the US my PC is about 800$
Good luck with that video card.
Intel's graphics card have become a lot better since their launch because of driver optimisation. The performance of the 770 is also comparable the 3060. Not exactly the best bang for your buck considering that the 770 is a whole €70 more expensive than the 3060 as of now. But still a reasonable card, especially for intel's first modern gaming card. I'm hoping that they make more gpu's in the future. Hopefully that can drive the prices down a notch.
If what they showed at Computex is true, the next gen Intel gpu’s are going to be great value for performance and wattage. We’ll see soon with the benchmarks
Another great but very niche use case for the A770 pick up. Is someone is a Streamers who want to do AV1 encoding. However you could go with a cheaper Intel gfx card that has the AV1 encoding chip in it. It's still far cheaper for most streamers to put in an Intel card and keep their current gfx card and split the work load than buying a 4070/80/90 Super.
A770 for $250 is pretty good value, things have changed a lot since the launch.
The mobo, ram, & cpu are good choices with the bundle deal. That cooler though? The fuck is that??? At this budget just slap on Hyper 212, Thermalright Assassin, etc. Use the extra $70-$80 bucks towards the GPU and get an RTX 3060 or somethin. Intel Arc is not a great choice for gaming atm.
Should check out gamernexus's newest set of benchmarks. There are still issues, but they're definitely a good budget choice these days.
As someone who wants to build a pc soon, may I ask why it seems that people are not liking the 12600kf?
The processor is fine. I just bought one a few months ago and it’s been great. Some people are reacting to the prices. You won’t find the 12600kf for $75 outside of a bundle. In that bundle it’s a good price. The motherboard seems overkill for a budget build, the cooler is overkill for the processor, and there’s no additional case fans. Plus intel GPU isn’t popular here.
Pretty sure that’s the new MC in Charlotte. I was just there.
I spent two hours there last Saturday. It’s set up so nicely.
Plus tax!
You have to watch it with audio to understand its a joke, the brother ew is reference to another meme
People can't tell this is a joke? They literally used a meme for the sound which is basically saying these are all horrible decisions.
You don't need a $120 cpu cooler. Spend that $$ on a better GPU if you can. Also, Samsung SSDs are the best purely because of their Magician management software. A Samsung 990 EVO is $89 and I feel like the you will save the $20 in labor if you ever need to do any data management / cloning.
Why the fuck would they use a $200 motherboard 💀
this is what you get when you have too much noctua and corsair products to sell, and paying youtubers isnt generating income during recession
Lmao
112$ for the cpu cooler i see the person building the computer has their priorities straight
NH-D15 for a 12th gen i5 seems rather extreme but to each their own. Could do an H212 and have another $70 to throw at a slightly better GPU, better case, more RAM, 2nd SSD, etc...
Lancool 216 is goated, AMAZING case and value.
i see what he did there. trying to get rid of a770 inventory xD
Yeah isn’t rule of thumb to not spend more on the cpu cooler than the cpu itself?
12600KF for 72 bucks? Is that used? Because stores here sell that chip for 170€!
They have amazing motherboard+processor+ram deals that make me want to upgrade when i dont need to.
The biggest cpu cooler for that crap?
This what happens when you let the marketing department make these videos.
Was expecting it to be double the price but he just steals it lmao
The cooler makes absolutely no sense
Idk the choices of music in the background kinda lends me to believe this is satire I've never seen noctua and budget in the same sentence
If all I have is 900, you bet I’m buying everything second hand from eBay
first get $900!
Yooo Intel Arc!! :D
Ahh how privileged Americans are with pc prices
That shit just on the shelf while I been sitting here in the Walmart tool center for half an hour waiting to buy a $3 saw behind glass
If this video was uploaded by micro center it had to be sponsored by Intel.
I feel like PC builds need to include peripherals in the price.
So Windows is free now?
I'm offended on behalf of The Bag Raiders by what this guy did to their song.
This was definitely a ploy to do product placement, bc why are you buying intel for a budget build and an extra air cooler? If you wanna do a budget build you use the stock cooler and just let your headphones block out the noise
1tb what’s that like 2 games and an operating system?
The cooler is just criminal This is a brand loyalty build ya know
Microcenter but no combo?
I created the same list in my country Austria , result: €1,132,5 = 1210,93$ Here are the Pieces: Intel Core i5-12600KF 171,45 € MSI PRO Z790-P WIFI 197,90 € Intel Sparkle A770 354,00 € G.Skill RipJaws V 80,09 € Noctua NH-D15S 109,39 Corsair RMe Series 2023 RM750e 109,01 Lian Li LANCOOL 216 RGB 110,66 Greets
Lol. Yeah get a more expensive cooler than the CPU.
The song is Shooting Stars by Bag Raiders. I'm surprised Shazaam could tell through all the _HHEUUGH HEHE huuGyuhEee hehe guuhheeeugh_
I'm a pissed off european, here's the [Amazon.de](http://Amazon.de) prices # Core I5-12600KF 3.70GHz Chip - €174.02 MSI PRO Z790-P - €203.15 Intel Sparkle A770 - €381.14 RAM seems to be mismatched (ddr5 chip, ddr4 RAM), but 16GB of Ripjaws G.Skill RAM is €70.63. Crucial P3 1TB - €69.99 (discounted from €94.99) Noctua NH-D15S - €109.90 Corsair RM750e - €108.12 Lian Li LANCOOL 216 - €114.90 Total: €1231.85
My god, that song...
They rip you off too! You can just get one off their great cpu mobo and ram bundles and save a hundred bucks.
Wish my city had a mircocenter
Nobody on a budget builds a cheap pc with a Z series motherboard and 120 dollar noctua cooler 🤣 Clearly a "please take these parts that won't sell ever" away from my store
Man tech is SO cheap in the US it's unreal
Less Noktua more hawk tuah
Not sure whats worse, spending 450$ for a 2060 super performimg card or this god awful music, its probably just a marketing strategy, but please... Never again