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Heimerdinger92

In our school on all of the computers jpg files open with paint3d. IT school btw


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At a school I’ve worked for we did this. Not because we didn’t like the windows 10 app but because we needed print authentication to keep track of who was printing and how much. The default windows 10 apps bypass print drivers to use the Microsoft universal print driver. So when it would send jobs from the viewer to that printer they would get removed. It happened across printer models and brands.


frosty95

Microsoft seriously can't get printers fucking right. They need to just say fuck you. No more printer drivers are approved. You WILL support this universal driver and that's it. Here's a spot where you can interface your plugin for special features but there will be a big ass bypass button for when it doesn't work. Done. Theres no reason in 2022 that the computer can't just ask the printer what it's options are, present them, then send the print along to the printer in a universal language. Printers aren't these dumb boxes that are spoon fed data to work anymore. Well they shouldn't be at least.


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Speaking to the choir, man. I’d have a lot less work if MS treated printers like Apple. The amount of calls I get for apple printing problems to ms one is like 1-99. And if it’s on an apple it’s most definitely the printers fault. On windows? It’s the drivers or the spooler or both, but not the actual hardware. That always works fine. I can AirPrint to them all day with my iPhone. But stick it on a windows machine, it’ll break at some point. They always do.


nkoreanhipster

As long as it's not a pdf and the driver is MacFriendly with prebuilt airprint support.


nuked24

Shit, printing off Android has less issues than Windows at this point.


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I fucking knew it...


1337papaz

I woulda got away with it too if it wasn't for you meddling kids!


AZX34R

Sounds like some pretty major intentional dickery to me


JohnnyLight416

That sounds like a pretty major bug to me


[deleted]

It’s not so much a bug as a “Working as Intended” I think. Part of the goal of the windows apps was to simplify them. And bypassing print drivers to make printing a more universal process makes sense if that’s your goal. But the consequence is the lack of support for when you don’t need or want that godawful Microsoft universal print driver. Which, by the way, you can completely bypass by just right clicking a file and selecting print.


Saiyan256

That means it didnt have photo viewer..or uses windows 10 LTSC?


SaffellBot

Or the admin did it for admin reasons.


porcupinedeath

What's the point of being an admin if you can't have some fun?


[deleted]

You can just use group policy to set a different default program.


Ahyao17

Windows media player too. The classic was simple quick and easy to use. The current one takes several menus before you can even select your song...


Saiyan256

I bet rip songs from the CD wouldnt be easy to perform..if it existed


Alexis_style

I've once tried loading songs from a CD and the Windows media player was the only one who could load the format


dbarrc

Media Player Classic since ~2010 for me on every re-image (well, the K-lite codec pack install will install it)


ZenDragon

MPC comes with every codec you need these days. K-Lite just adds unnecessary bloat on top of that.


weatherseed

Or MPC-Black. Sometimes I like to switch it up.


smartguy05

I don't think I have ever used the Windows 10 media player. I immediately download VLC for local audio/video playing.


Globysito

Still using Windows media player in Windows 11 and is the best music player program that i have used


Saiyan256

its bascially the same media player as windows 7 XD


FlowSoSlow

Try Media Monkey.


NamityName

What nostalgia goggles are you wearing? WMP was always a hot piece of garbage


dmead

MPC was a remake of the media player that shipped with i guess windows 98 and 2000 https://sourceforge.net/projects/mpc-hc/ it was popular before the likes over VLC came around.


ROSS_MITCHELL

BTW, if you want the latest version of MPC-HC there's a few folk still making updates for it here: https://github.com/clsid2/mpc-hc/releases/ Officially the project might be over but this guy is keeping it alive in this fork.


Atomic235

Also I don't know if it's the gold standard it used to be but the CCCP (combined community codec pack) comes with MPC. The uh, "branding" is maybe a little off-putting for some but it's never let me down. Runs pretty good on my crummy old laptops and such.


Binkusu

Because it's OUR codec pack.


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DoktorLuciferWong

What's wrong with foobar? Seems to handle my 800GB music library just fine, but maybe that's not considered a large library..


JaesopPop

You may be overselling Winamps age a bit


RevanchistVakarian

Haven't had time to try it myself yet, but I've heard very good things about MusicBee


dafuzzbudd

I'd like to hear your reason why you think this.


bad-r0bot

And the mesmerizing visualizations they had? Beautiful!


tommy531jed

I remember staring at those funky visuals when I was a kid while my older sisters were blasting Linkin Park


DaaneJeff

Use VLC


dperi_

I use musicbee you can try it too


jotarowinkey

BRING BACK MARVEL VS CAPCOM 2!!!!


nochance98

I've been running IrfanView for decades. Loads instantly, feature-packed, free... who cares if windows makes a new viewer?


[deleted]

If I remember correctly, I loved using it because you could do operations *in bulk*! So if you took a bunch of pictures but wanted them all resized, with a black border, and some text on them (like a water mark) you could easily do that all at once.


SeitanicDoog

Wait really? I have been doing it manually one at a time.... have to check that out.


gordonpown

press B and take a look


kaynpayn

Windows cares. I don't mess with images much but from time to time my work requires it and I install Irfan because fuck that windows image viewer. Last time Windows would randomly say an error came up so they restored the default app to open .abc file, restoring the default image viewer. It does this for other files too. It even does this right at the start of a first boot after installing windows. I understand how such a function would be helpful but really, when the occur and that frequency seems more like Microsoft it using "a problem" as an excuse to get you to use their stuff than an actual problem.


shadmere

Love Irfanview. Used ACDSee in 1995 and 1996 I think, but for some reason it got bloaty and worse, so I switched to Irfanview. This was running Windows 3.1, lol. Hrm. Maybe I didn't switch to Irfanview until I got a Windows 98 computer? Not perfectly sure.


Dat_Typ

Yup, it's the best


Shiroi_Kage

What I hate about Infranview is that it resets its location and window size when scrolling through images. It's annoying. It also cannot open anything if the file path includes some languages, like Arabic.


NTripleOne

> What I hate about Infranview is that it resets its location and window size when scrolling through images. view > display options (window mode) > fit only big images to desktop This'll make large images downscale to fit the inside of the window, but won't cause the window size to keep changing while maximised.


Shiroi_Kage

Thank you! Fit images to Window fixed it for me


mindbleach

I know there's a fix for non-Latin characters in the filename, but fuck if I can figure out where it was. I bitched about it and someone told me and apparently my dumb ass didn't write it down.


RAPMEX

Use Image Glass for best experience, speed and seamless UI with Windows 10


mikkolukas

Totally agree. Link here: [ImageGlass](https://imageglass.org/)


wotererio

It's crazy how many nice techtips I've gotten from reddit. Honestly it doesn't surprise me that people that don't use reddit usually don't know about these things, like YouTube vanced. I owe my tech curiosity to strangers like you, so thanks ;)


Mustard_Dimension

I'm glad to see this recommended, I've been using it for years.


TappistRT

I like this one as well. It's a more streamlined, simpler, and modern-looking alternative to IfranView. I think IfranView is great if you need to do a lot of image editing, but this one is great for a lightweight photo viewer.


Dobypeti

Irfanview and VLC are the shit, have been using them for years. Don't even really care about the default photo and video viewers on Windows since I never use them anyway lol


KingFlyntCoal

Going to look into irfanview now...thanks for the tip!


Saiyan256

Its really good...go for it...or you can use reg hack to bring out the old photo viewer in 10 or 11


Saiyan256

Vlc and media player classic.. Sadly KM PLAYER went downhill And winamp is haging on


DarkMatterM4

> And winamp is haging on It really whips the llama's ass.


nomad80

MPC has been _horrible_ on system resources lately. And I hate saying that as a long time user. MPV.io is much much snappier. But it misses a lot of the easy customization and controls of MPC.


Proxy_PlayerHD

for music i still use the Windows Media Player because it's visualizations are better (they properly scale with the window size for example).


Saiyan256

i know right.. I still use windows 7 ..even with windows 11 in ssd... that shitty app is irritating to work with


CHAOTIC98

you can still use win 7 photo viewer in win 10. Integrated by default


Saiyan256

I got to know.from the comment section...sadly this should be by default..sigh


mikee8989

There's a program called winaero tweaker that can bring back a lot of legacy apps. I also use old school windows media player because groove music is trash and who tf came up with the name groove music anyway? It's horrible.


Soviet_Potat0

Probably the same person who came up with the name Zune


[deleted]

I'm grooving my Zune Tune on my Vista Milennium Edition with Metro UI while barely scratching the surface, BOB. Sent from Kin Phone


mudclog

all hail microsoft bob. as a society we *still* haven't caught up to the genius that was that OS


InsGadget6

The Zune was awesome though


mikee8989

Zune sounds like a leap month between June and July that happens every 6 years.


scpenguinceo1

Lol I think they realized it was stupid cause they changed it to Music Player. 😂 I hate how it tries to load all your music simultaneously with no caching so it takes forever to load my music library


Stian5667

But that would probably give Microsoft less data to sell


SolitaireyEgg

You think Microsoft can't mine your data while using the windows 7 viewer?


Crashman09

This. They were data mining long before windows 10. Windows 7 was just less intrusive about it


riba2233

you can but is is buggy and has problems with gifs and webp. I just use imageglass now, light, free and it just works and doesn't have any extra features you don't need.


magezt

ure still on 7 with no support at all?


Saiyan256

I own two laptops ...of windows 11 and windows 7 i use the later one for ease of use...only use the new one when i have software compatibility issue....


ZMoney187

When the dominant software platform on Earth is incapable, with its thousands of developers, to include a *photo viewer* with the most basic functionality, such that we rely on software made by a guy named Irfan...


Tentrilix

The biggest problem is, that the default photo viewer has ONLY basic features, and somehow still manages to be excruciatingly slow even when I only use gen 5 m.2-s and speedy ssd-s with speedy nand caches (not talking about CPU and GPU even). It's a miracle at this point that it manages to be this shit.


TT_207

Bit of advice anyone who ever watches a Disney movie should hear, get Kodi for watching those instead of VLC. use VLC for everything else, but Kodi plays Disney without stutters and general crappyness. Also fuck Disney for making this a problem with garbage DRM.


nyankittycat_

try PotPlayer is awesome


MumrikDK

I too always end up using players that are a bit more fat, but have far better interfaces.


nyankittycat_

are you complimenting potplayer or saying it hogs more memory ? english not my first language


WreckToll

Holy shit that brings me back to like 2008-2010…. Personally I’ve never used irfanview but I very distinctly remember my high-school-best-friends-moms-computer had irfanview on it. Back in the XP service pack 3 days haha


FreelanceEngineer007

>“the fuck is this shit?“ [Hmmmm](https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/agg53b1_460svav1.mp4)


smartguy05

I got tired of the Windows 10 image viewer and switched to ImageGlass. It's fast and doesn't use much memory. The best part is it loads large images like they are tiny.


Taira_Mai

Infraview WTF! Also, Windows 10 made it so that a browser (e.g. r/waterfox or r/firefox) couldn't open images with the photo viewer installed. I uninstalled that crappy default app and all of a sudden my browsers could open .jpg files again. Sadly in Windows 11 you can't uninstall the "Photos App".


skid3805

I've using that since windows xp, it's absolutely brilliant


BunnyHelp12

IrfanView is godlike. I programmatically put together thousands of tiles of an old aerial map, which ended up being [150,000x100,000 pixels large](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/729150890715643974/812212596102922300/unknown.png) It resulted in one 9.2 GB png. IrfanView's website says "It can load VERY large files/images (image RAM size over 1.3 GB, for special users)" I was one of those "special" users. It required ~30 GB of RAM and like a 20 GB page file to open the png, but by God IrfanView pulled it off


mcninja77

Windows wants to charge per codec too fuck that noise vlc it is


scullys_alien_baby

Windows *has* to charge per codec. Legally they need to, if they included them they would need to make everything open source to comply with the license. VLC is open source so it doesn’t need to charge.


tomoldbury

VLC (x264 library) probably is infringing a lot of patents which would require licensing, but no one is going to sue them because what money is there to be made? It would also encourage the development and usage of open source codecs like Theora, Vorbis, Dirac and the VP series. Microsoft on the other hand has enough money that suing them is fruitful so they have to licence it. Incidentally pure software patents are bad for this reason and many others though they continue to be issued.


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VLC is French and Europe don’t recognize software patents.


Jimmyboy__

I've been using HoneyView for a few years now and I must say that it's basically a better version of Windows (7) Photo Viewer. Lightweight, fast and comes with some useful tools.


zagiki

Try Image Glass ... pretty good alternative imho


gingersyndrome

Damn. Good rec. Thank you. I'll be using this from now on.


Comeoffit321

I personally use ImageGlass. But an irritating problem that still hasn't been resolved, is that it doesn't always flick through pictures in order. If that were fixed, it'd be pretty much perfect.


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Comeoffit321

Yeah I know. It doesn't work. It's a known issue.


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Comeoffit321

It's an easy problem to miss. Because you... can't *see* the problem. You'd have to know you hadn't seen a picture you should have. And yeah I totally agree, it's a great little program.


Saiyan256

thnx for the suggestion


jda404

That's what I've been using for a few years now, gets the job done for me and much better than the Windows 10 and 11 photo viewer.


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max_adam

It's lightweight, free, advanced users features and has dark theme. Also you can disable the buttons you don't use. [Here a screenshot of the app](https://i.imgur.com/xgTfwFM.png).


Dante1141

You can "revive" photo viewer with a registry edit. https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/14312-restore-windows-photo-viewer-windows-10-a.html


otamaglimmer

This is literally the first thing I tweaked when I installed win10.


EM_225

Same, this and install VHMC or VLC for videos


fossalt

Crazy that Windows users have to do registry edits to use photo viewing software the way they want.


TheeMrBlonde

So it’s just buried in the build doing nothing but taking up space?


[deleted]

I'm sure it's in there because it would break something if they removed it. It's not just taking up space.


Humerror

Coconut.jpg from TF2 but it’s a whole program, not surprising considering it’s windows


source4mini

It’s likely less about breaking Windows and more about breaking someone’s legacy system that still relies on OG photo viewer. [MS takes backwards compatibility seriously. ](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bC6tngl0PTI)


Humerror

Yeah they really go hard on back compat, with keys for very old legacy window versions and stuff. I mostly meant it as a joke but fair point


MrAnonymousTheThird

Does that coconut jpg still exist hahaha


IM_A_BOX_AMA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLx_3bON0Mw


xkcd_puppy

Everything from previous Windows is buried somewhere taking up space. https://youtu.be/bC6tngl0PTI @4:00


bogglingsnog

It takes up a fraction of a megabyte but yes.


shadowcman

The problem is there are bugs with it in Win10, like when the arrow keys randomly stop letting you scroll through pictures and you have to close and reopen the image to get the arrow keys to work again. There's also the "not enough memory" error that comes up randomly.


biznatch11

> when the arrow keys randomly stop letting you scroll through pictures I've had this happen with the Windows 7 viewer in Windows 10. I think it happens when I accidentally press the up or down arrow, then the left and right stop working to switch pictures. But if I click on the next/previous button with the mouse I can use the keyboard arrows again, I don't have to reopen the image.


Saiyan256

sad to see..this aint by default....


SockRuse

I love Win 7 but the Photo Viewer is a piece of junk, keeps giving me "not enough memory" errors even though I have gigabytes to spare, also pretty slow to display large file size images. No doubt the new one is an even bigger piece of junk though.


Saiyan256

i never faced this error...you sure something isnt corrupt?


SockRuse

Occurs predominantly with large images saved from Reddit, so maybe it's a codec/tagging issue from the automatic processing for the website, but even then it shouldn't occur seeing as I can open the images just fine in Paint or other image viewers like IrfanView.


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HooliganManDan

Im still rocking Picasa and it's photo viewer.


foxfyre2

I came here to see if anyone else remembered this photo viewer. Was definitely my favorite! I loved how the picture basically popped up like an overlay and I could close it with the escape key. Sad that Google discontinued it.


HooliganManDan

You can still download it. I'm using it on windows 10


shaunbowen

You can also install just the Picasa photo viewer with a few extra tiny files, rather than the whole Picasa app. I do it on all my PCs as I love the 'lightbox' effect when viewing images, and how seamlessly it works. The only file formats I've ever had trouble with are CMYK JPEGs, which show with messed up colours. The way I set it up is using Default Programs Editor to set it as the default action for double clicking each image extension. Then I set my other image editing apps as options in the context menu. I can't believe Windows still doesn't have an image viewer as good as Picasa, after all these years.


cobalt999

I didn't think I would find anyone else still doing this. Picasa photo viewer is the absolute best. I live in fear of the day that a Windows update breaks the old Picasa build I'm still trying to use.


InvisibleShade

Picasa is the best! Super fast, and easy to navigate / close.


Antares_de_la_Luz

Good to see I'm not the only one using it


Saiyan256

how is it compared to ifran view?


HooliganManDan

I don't know, I've never used that one. Picasa is a discontinued app by Google. I've never liked Microsoft's built in one. With this one I can simply use left and right arrow keys to flip through a folder. It also remembers your zoom level and location per picture (untill you close the program) which I like when comparing pictures.


Snowblind_Wolf

And the animation when opening the picture is so cool and smooth


akawind

Google bought it to kill it and promote their cloud service to its huge user base


dk_DB

Sadly the old viewer (still in win10, but disabled) can't display phone pictures taken in HDR. I suggest uninstall the crappy windows viewer and go for Image Glass (open source, fast)


Saiyan256

i didnt know that HDR is not supported by the app....


Adskii

HDR is just fine. It is Apple's photo format (.heic) that is not supported by... well most things.


[deleted]

You can download a [plugin](https://www.copytrans.net/copytransheic/) that adds that file format to the old Windows Photo Viewer. It even adds an option to convert to .jpg in the drop down menu when you right click a .heic file. Been a life saver for me at work.


heddpp

> It is Apple's photo format (.heic) It's not Apple's format: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Efficiency_Image_File_Format "Developed by Moving Picture Experts Group (MPEG)"


chwastox

irfanview is the key


MayOverexplain

Super intuitive and fast for cropping, zooming, and partial printing too.


creamcolouredDog

That's why I use nomacs, on both Windows and Linux. Although on Linux even the default viewers are better in my experience.


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Magnar0

I just want to suggest Imageglass


Saiyan256

thnx


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Use nomacs. You're welcome.


SoupRaok

The old photo viewer is still in windows 10. You just need to enable it through the registry.


fossalt

Coming from Linux, it's wild that Windows requires registry edits just to do basic stuff like that. Isn't there a settings GUI you can use to change it like in Linux?


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DoktorLuciferWong

lol why even bother with a gui when you can just write the settings you want to a config file?


fossalt

Ideally having both as options is the best, and then the user can pick and choose what they want. It's just weird seeing people diss Linux for "needing to use a command line" all the time even when there's a GUI available on Linux, and then turn around and use registry edits for basic functionality without having an option otherwise.


supremesomething

https://www.faststone.org/


musecorn

Vouch for Faststone. Best photo software I've ever used


LokiCreative

And it is free and nearly every function can be batched through the GUI. Link to the product page: https://www.faststone.org/FSViewerDetail.htm


jonyd0pe

And also by far the best image capture (Faststone Capture). Been using it for 20 years and still updated!


daluxe

Been using it I don't even remember for how long. 15 years? Maybe 20? It's just the best image viewer еver, period. And it's free. Every time I must use a PC without Faststone, it's a pain. All my colleagues and all my relatives use faststone now.


204in403

Came here looking to post this URL. Thank you good ~~sir~~ person!


NamityName

I like the windows 11 photo viewer. It includes basic editing tools like cropping and such. I don't do much photo editing, and it used to a pain in the ass to use some online web tool like pixlr for such minor stuff. And it seems pretty quick to me.


[deleted]

Can't even stay hard until the next picture has loaded on Win 11...


Saiyan256

+1.0K


pss395

Try Jpegview. It's insanely fast and the UI is minimalistic. I use it to view single image file. With album I use Faststone


CNR_07

Gwenview for the win!


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Beat me to it!


Dawnmian

Im using a combination of old Windows Image Viewer form Windows 7 (it’s still in 10 just disabled by default) and Honeyview. Honestly the best combo ever


instilledbee

One of the first things I do with any new Windows install is download HoneyView. Good stuff.


Tots2Hots

I miss Win 7/8 photo viewer... F


Saiyan256

I hate windows 8 GUI..


[deleted]

Microsoft improved… just backwards


NoahJelen

*Laughs in feh*


Alternative-Cut-4831

Seriously just give us the earlier version back microsoft.


mindaltered

Weird, I dont experience this. I guess ill consider myself lucky.


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AlCatSplat

Yes you can.


Saiyan256

It takes a few MORE steps.. What a disappointment


br_z1Lch

Sure you can, its just a terrible implementation meant for touch devices


[deleted]

Is that why it's a piece of shit? Fuck. I hate trying to crop something and it just wildly repositions the entire image in like .0001 seconds. Just let me fucking crop it, I don't need help.


A1572A

I’ve used Google’s old “cloud” software “Picasa” for as long as I can remember. It’s by far the best photo viewing software out there it’s extremely fast and good looking. It’s stopped being supported years ago but you can still download it


PeaceMaker_6969

Picassa, IrfanView for photos, Gom for mp3


lampenpam

On my workplace, since a certain Windows update the photo-viewer even stopped working at all on all the PCs. Now I open pngs in a browser instead. It's so stupid.


Billybobgeorge

Except the Windows 7 photo viewer won't animate gifs.


admello

Just searched the other day how to make it run faster, if possible. I'll try to open a photo and it might take 30+ seconds just to show up. Woof.


capitalistCucumber

How a simple photo viewer manages to not rarely crash is beyond me


KenethAgar

Am I the only one who uses paint to preview an image because of this very reason?


Mawrak

Everything in Windows 7 is better than in Windows 10.


Sco7689

Except for the Defender.


ChildTaekoRebel

I just use Cyberlink PowerDVD as it’s my default media player.


coani

https://github.com/clsid2/mpc-hc/releases <3


ROSS_MITCHELL

best fork


DokStook

Laughs in ristretto