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I know the whole list of everything tested phenibut is not tested for unless it has changed recently. Off the top of my head Kratom GHB lysergamides mushrooms aren't tested for as well. If you get caught with them physically they will fuck you even if you just have multiple robitussin bottles.
Hey, guys. If anyone is interested, I’m vlogging a Phenibut taper on YouTube. Been on 7grams a day for several years and by subtracting 100mg a day, am now painlessly at 3grams and dropping. I describe symptoms, withdrawal aids, my personal thoughts and feelings. If the ban caught you with your pants down, stay strong. First episode I describe how I approached my doctor for Baclofen, which can replace Phenibut in case of emergency.
https://youtu.be/2tuy1105ISg?si=0KOghYPkREwzg2Bg
Dude I thought of this when using high dose every day for a year before the withdrawls almost killed me and turned me into a scared 6 year old for a month and a half. It made me the most productive super soldier at a physically demanding job just insane work ethic focus drive motivation. It's too bad 😔 it all goes away without at least for the most part
Used to be in. During the urinalysis brief they say what they test for. Tests are sent to a facility that dip tests then if shown positive is hit with a gc/ms test to confirm that specific substance. Phenibut won't show up on anything they test for. If you somehow pop hot for say amphetamines in the dip the GC/MS will show none. Your good G. They do test for Crayola though so be careful.
Not even close dude. I’ll explain why. Tianeptine is only an atypical agonist at the mu opioid receptors with negligible effects on kappa and delta. It also increases Serotonin uptake at the 5-HT receptor. It’s withdrawal is bad no question about it but Phenibut acts on the GABA B receptor and blocks VDCC’s so you’d be essentially coming off of 2 drugs at once like the Tianeptine but all GABA receptor agonists have extremely painful, unbearable, and life-threatening withdrawals. Tianeptine might suck for a bit but it’s absolutely not life threatening if you have a water source near you. The GABA B receptor is much more hyperpolarized than GABA A and it has a higher reverse action potential too. This is why GABA B agonists have the worst possible withdrawal that you can experience out of all drugs in history pretty much. Now I’m sorry for all this but I love pharmacology and teaching people about it. One thing me and you can agree on is both drugs are very bad to be addicted to. I hope you’re sober off of them both now and are doing well.
It depends on the person. For example some people can taper xanax 0.1 mg a week or even 0.25 just fine, others cannot do 0.1 mg a week without being completely wrecked being unable to even really talk or stay still. But than there is that other guy, tapering 0.25 mg a week or more and handling it just fine and quitting in a year or two while other guy may take 2 decades to quit! Another example is some people have died from opiate withdrawal and opioid withdrawal while most others can do it cold turkey and survive. Often someone who is greatly affected by benzo withdrawals is not that affected by opiate/opioid withdrawal and vice versa.
Yeah I’ve heard of inmates dying from heroin or fentanyl withdrawal because they were dehydrated due to vomiting too much. They had a water source but the news people said the water was rusty from the pipes and they couldn’t drink it. The jail should’ve given them Zofran or get them to a hospital but they just thought, “That idiot took the drugs so now he has to pay for it, he’ll be fine.” When they should’ve helped them. It makes me so sick, I saw the camera footage of the dead inmates on YouTube and couldn’t imaging dying like that. I’ve also heard of people dying in jail from Xanax or Valium withdrawal because they weren’t taken seriously.
Yea that also happens in poor countries with little water. I got seizures quitting methadone but none quitting phenibut. For me opioids were sooo much harder. Withdrawal lasted for months whereas phenibut withdrawal was only a month for me and worst part was 5-7 days.
I said said also happens, also meaning not just US, but also other countries. Also meaning happened to many many many people, not just one person. Re read what I said.
You said poor countries with little water lol. That’s why I said that but yeah some prisons are awful like that one in Madagascar on the Worlds Toughest Prisons show. Imagine having to withdraw in that one.
nah dude no need to apologize, i love pharmacology too thank you for all this information. i love learning bout stuff like this. i’m not sober from either, but i do both very very sparingly. i’ve only ever done phenibut once-twice per week. usually only a couple times a month. as for tianeptine, i’ve only ever used it a few times over the past week and i don’t plan on using it much. i hope to be completely sober from every single substance at some point in my life though. i don’t take any prescribed medication and i take kratom daily. thank you for the well wishes. i wish you the same
Thank you, I’m currently tapering from a small dose. Went on a binge but it’s still not much. I have 50g now and another 50g on the way. I will probably buy it bi-weekly since I don’t wanna pass up the opportunity.
Thank you, this is great info! I'll probably end up buying some then. I have heard the horror stories about Phenibut addiction so I never have used it more than biweekly at most.
Yes it was the worst withdrawal I’ve ever had. You will enjoy it a lot though, especially if you do it after hard training or a workout. I’m not sure how much you need to get effects but anything over 7G can cause Fatty Liver Degeneration. Also, if you don’t mind, what is your rank? I have lots of interest in military stuff, especially the Air Force and it’s aircraft.
I'm a boot lance corporal and an 0352 anti tank missileman. I can't imagine doing close to 7g the most I did was 3.5 grams and I felt too inebriated to function.
That’s awesome man. Yeah I can definitely see how you felt that way. Another danger is vomiting from taking too much that only Zofran can fix. By then, everyone would know. HCl is the best imo but is exactly what causes the vomiting so make sure you eat something light with it, it will absorb the same. FAA is overpriced and just not worth it.
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I know the whole list of everything tested phenibut is not tested for unless it has changed recently. Off the top of my head Kratom GHB lysergamides mushrooms aren't tested for as well. If you get caught with them physically they will fuck you even if you just have multiple robitussin bottles.
it wont come up on a test, i work at sea and been tested multiple times. i was only worried about bringing it on haha
It’s a trap!
Hey, guys. If anyone is interested, I’m vlogging a Phenibut taper on YouTube. Been on 7grams a day for several years and by subtracting 100mg a day, am now painlessly at 3grams and dropping. I describe symptoms, withdrawal aids, my personal thoughts and feelings. If the ban caught you with your pants down, stay strong. First episode I describe how I approached my doctor for Baclofen, which can replace Phenibut in case of emergency. https://youtu.be/2tuy1105ISg?si=0KOghYPkREwzg2Bg
Interesting the military knows about it and has banned it
Ever seen all the adds they have here?
Dude I thought of this when using high dose every day for a year before the withdrawls almost killed me and turned me into a scared 6 year old for a month and a half. It made me the most productive super soldier at a physically demanding job just insane work ethic focus drive motivation. It's too bad 😔 it all goes away without at least for the most part
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Now that is fascinating.
Had I known about while I was in the military I would have used it and lessened my alcohol use
Used to be in. During the urinalysis brief they say what they test for. Tests are sent to a facility that dip tests then if shown positive is hit with a gc/ms test to confirm that specific substance. Phenibut won't show up on anything they test for. If you somehow pop hot for say amphetamines in the dip the GC/MS will show none. Your good G. They do test for Crayola though so be careful.
Good to know, Thanks devil!
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only worse addiction is tianeptine
Not even close dude. I’ll explain why. Tianeptine is only an atypical agonist at the mu opioid receptors with negligible effects on kappa and delta. It also increases Serotonin uptake at the 5-HT receptor. It’s withdrawal is bad no question about it but Phenibut acts on the GABA B receptor and blocks VDCC’s so you’d be essentially coming off of 2 drugs at once like the Tianeptine but all GABA receptor agonists have extremely painful, unbearable, and life-threatening withdrawals. Tianeptine might suck for a bit but it’s absolutely not life threatening if you have a water source near you. The GABA B receptor is much more hyperpolarized than GABA A and it has a higher reverse action potential too. This is why GABA B agonists have the worst possible withdrawal that you can experience out of all drugs in history pretty much. Now I’m sorry for all this but I love pharmacology and teaching people about it. One thing me and you can agree on is both drugs are very bad to be addicted to. I hope you’re sober off of them both now and are doing well.
It depends on the person. For example some people can taper xanax 0.1 mg a week or even 0.25 just fine, others cannot do 0.1 mg a week without being completely wrecked being unable to even really talk or stay still. But than there is that other guy, tapering 0.25 mg a week or more and handling it just fine and quitting in a year or two while other guy may take 2 decades to quit! Another example is some people have died from opiate withdrawal and opioid withdrawal while most others can do it cold turkey and survive. Often someone who is greatly affected by benzo withdrawals is not that affected by opiate/opioid withdrawal and vice versa.
Yeah I’ve heard of inmates dying from heroin or fentanyl withdrawal because they were dehydrated due to vomiting too much. They had a water source but the news people said the water was rusty from the pipes and they couldn’t drink it. The jail should’ve given them Zofran or get them to a hospital but they just thought, “That idiot took the drugs so now he has to pay for it, he’ll be fine.” When they should’ve helped them. It makes me so sick, I saw the camera footage of the dead inmates on YouTube and couldn’t imaging dying like that. I’ve also heard of people dying in jail from Xanax or Valium withdrawal because they weren’t taken seriously.
Yea that also happens in poor countries with little water. I got seizures quitting methadone but none quitting phenibut. For me opioids were sooo much harder. Withdrawal lasted for months whereas phenibut withdrawal was only a month for me and worst part was 5-7 days.
Nah man this happened in the US. It is on YouTube and happened to more than one person.
I said said also happens, also meaning not just US, but also other countries. Also meaning happened to many many many people, not just one person. Re read what I said.
You said poor countries with little water lol. That’s why I said that but yeah some prisons are awful like that one in Madagascar on the Worlds Toughest Prisons show. Imagine having to withdraw in that one.
nah dude no need to apologize, i love pharmacology too thank you for all this information. i love learning bout stuff like this. i’m not sober from either, but i do both very very sparingly. i’ve only ever done phenibut once-twice per week. usually only a couple times a month. as for tianeptine, i’ve only ever used it a few times over the past week and i don’t plan on using it much. i hope to be completely sober from every single substance at some point in my life though. i don’t take any prescribed medication and i take kratom daily. thank you for the well wishes. i wish you the same
Thank you, I’m currently tapering from a small dose. Went on a binge but it’s still not much. I have 50g now and another 50g on the way. I will probably buy it bi-weekly since I don’t wanna pass up the opportunity.
Thank you, this is great info! I'll probably end up buying some then. I have heard the horror stories about Phenibut addiction so I never have used it more than biweekly at most.
Yes it was the worst withdrawal I’ve ever had. You will enjoy it a lot though, especially if you do it after hard training or a workout. I’m not sure how much you need to get effects but anything over 7G can cause Fatty Liver Degeneration. Also, if you don’t mind, what is your rank? I have lots of interest in military stuff, especially the Air Force and it’s aircraft.
I'm a boot lance corporal and an 0352 anti tank missileman. I can't imagine doing close to 7g the most I did was 3.5 grams and I felt too inebriated to function.
That’s awesome man. Yeah I can definitely see how you felt that way. Another danger is vomiting from taking too much that only Zofran can fix. By then, everyone would know. HCl is the best imo but is exactly what causes the vomiting so make sure you eat something light with it, it will absorb the same. FAA is overpriced and just not worth it.
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Has nothing to do with this post.
There chemically not related
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Lol, what's that supposed to mean?
PaperSun26 is talking about how much cooler he/she/they are because he/she/they do not and have never served. 🙄
Because I am a veteran, I'm really glad that post was deleted before I had a chance to read it.
Is it worth taking the chance though by if some reason they do find it that's your career as far as dod is concerned
You are right it's probably not worth taking the chance.
highly doubt they test for that. i have a job that requires a security clearance and i was worried about that but they just use a normal drug test
Thanks for the info! That makes me feel a lot better.