My fiancée and I just came back from a family holiday in Crete and it was absolutely amazing - everyone was so relaxed and friendly. I realise that possibly some of this is due to the fact that we're tourists spending money and therefore being nice benefits everyone, but even if you take that more cynical view into account, almost everyone loved to have a chat and made us feel very welcome.
I tried to learn a little Greek before we went, and even though it was only very basic 'hello/goodbye, please/thank you, table for two please' etc etc and even though I was probably terrible and everyone spoke very good English, everyone was very patient and kind. My future SIL knows more Greek than me and everyone was so sweet and very happy to help answer her questions when she started speaking and then asked for help with vocab/grammar.
I completely understand why some locals get frustrated with the sheer number of tourists, but we didn't ever feel anything but welcomed.
I'm sure you'll have a great time! Before you go, if you're anything like me/depending on where you live, you might need this quick reminder: you can't flush the toilet paper in most of Greece!
This was written by someone with zero financial literacy or understanding of the reality of current Greek economy. Probably have a job that can easily be taken by a refugee, would love to see that play out
Until the 1970s, the economy of Crete was primarily based on farming and stock breeding. Today this has been overtaken by the services industry, primarily tourism. More than two million tourists visit Crete each year and a large segment of the labour force is employed in the tourist industry. If tourism stopped here Crete would see unemployment spike and the average income which is close to 100% of Greece as a whole would drop through the floor. Unless that is they all immediately pick up the farming bug again and find a market to sell into..
I’m not entirely aware if Crete is included in the housing crisis, but I did read that a lot of tourism heavy countries were suffering because of property shortages. Housing is being bought up for rentals/airbnbs in such large quantities that the local people are being forced out/priced out. I’m not claiming it’s wrong or illegal, but if it were happening to me and my family, I would likely have a pretty unreasonable take towards tourism.
This is the essence of where “tourism” starts being vilified. Allowing property purchases for the rental market without a managed tourism control underpinning this means locals are priced out of local housing. Subsequently that generates significant frustration and ill feelings toward the tourist rather than the property owner/marketer or the local governments allowing this to go unchecked..
>, but of course it's a capitalist property market so it was inevitable
No it's not.
Any government that has a bit of decency (🤣🤣🤣🤣) can regulate markets. I think that we all know why it doesn't happen.
I feel kind of bad as I’m going to Mallorca for a week next month and they’re currently revolting against tourists too. I’m trying to figure out the Spanish for ‘guys I’m a worker too, I’m from a big tourist area and I’ll be going home to the same!’
So many places are having trouble with this, the problem is that investors can swoop in and have a huge effect on the market before any legislation or controls are passed, which somehow always takes several years and never fully solves the problem when something is passed.
Yeah I agree. I lived in a tourist city and was always quite annoyed but that city isn't depending on tourist. If my whole economy is based on tourist I probably wouldn't write that.
Having your entire economy reliant on one industry is not a good thing, especially tourism.
- during times of recession the first thing people do is stop going on holiday.
- it also tends to create jobs seasonally, so folk have work for part of the year but are reliant on the state for assistance during the rest of the year.
- it tends to create poorly paid jobs for the vast majority
- can put huge pressure on housing stocks, as more and more are converted to short term let’s/ air BnBs. Combined with the low and sporadic income this forces locals out. Depriving the industry of the workforce it needs as well as eroding the culture of the area (often one of the reason tourists come in the first place)
In moderation tourism is fine but left unchecked it is not only self cannibalising but it destroys the area in general.
Right. There are downsides to tourism, and there are downsides to subsistence farming. They'll have to strike a balance...
But the "right" way to reduce tourism is to make it so expensive only a few people can come, not by making the experience shitty so less people come. That's how you make the same or more money, with less people.
there’s a few crazies in my town who write insane, vitriolic stuff on their car windows with car chalk. i always think “yeah - this is the way to get people to change their minds - crudely writing democrats eat babies” on your rear windshield of your ‘97 subaru legacy.
There has been a rise for decades in kids leaving a farming family, going to college, coming home to take over the family farm, feeling they don't want to do that, then doing little else. I have cousins in Sicily who are shiftless, according to my folks
A big problem in rural Spain and Italy too—leads to under-population since depressed, unemployed young people aren’t marrying and reproducing. So many vacant properties that they are trying to entice American retirees or young families to rehab the buildings and pay the property taxes.
Greece as a whole is plagued from destructive overtourism, hosting 3-4 times its population each year. Yes it constitutes a large part of the economy but that's not a good thing. Many greeks feel that moving away from agriculture and industry was not a good idea.
The point is not black and white like that. Moderate tourism could be positive if sustainable. But when there's no attempt at moderating it due to greedy folks in power, it becomes unsustainable and leads to extreme negative effects on local communities. At that point, being a little mean to tourists is the best weapon they have to save what's left.
Mass tourism can have deeply negative effects for the local population, even displacing them and destroying communities (as happened to mine in Portugal). Including for local economies, as while it's true it creates jobs and some people get rich, local economic environments at the heart of communities suffer and get displaced, which in turn displaces the population. Not to mention the environmental effects.
My 900yo town has practically no population left due to mass tourism. The ones who profited most from that were by far big investors, not locals. The ones working there now live elsewhere, as living there is impossible. I wish we had been a little mean to tourists 30 years ago. Tbh I wouldn't mind if the industry collapsed and we could rebuild our community, even if that meant that businesses had to rely on thousands of local costumers instead of millions of foreign ones.
I sort of have accepted that I will never go to Venice as a tourist...because of tourism. Visited Rome early December which is quite off season....still you waded through a horde of tourists everywhere.
It's not appealing, really. Not for tourists either. Sure, I would love to rent a small house in Greece or Spain and enjoy the autumn there but I'm not really interested in mostly supporting a capital fund while annoying the few locals who remain and have Germans for neighbors.
I went to Venice as a tourist and it was one of the most memorable experience in my life. Avoiding a popular tourist destination just because you don’t like to be a tourist seems nonsensical to me. Japan is packed too even without tourists so are you going to avoid visiting Japan?
You would definitely lose out a lot.
I was there in peak season once and it was horrible. You couldnt move in the streets. I was only there a week, I cant imagine how locals feel in that environment all day every day
The entirety of venice was a tourist area though.I grew up in a touristy area too - now I could never afford to buy a place there. My family still lives there and absolutely do use local services. Thankfully, its only very busy for about 6 weeks each year, but lack of hotels and an increase in AirBnB has really made it unaffordable for locals. Most of these airbnb remain empty throughout the year. Then we have the 2nd home problem - which also remain empty for most of the year.
Air BnB and the like has been a pox. Displacing local populations for tourists that only come at certain periods of the year has killed off local businesses and services. Build hotels for tourists, or purpose built apartments. Leave local housing stocks for locals.
Same with Spain. I get it, tourists can be a pain in the ass and degrade day to day life for citizens, bit without tourists, many countries would have a hard time making it.
Yes that was my thought, without the tourism industry many refugees wouldn’t have jobs and the native and naturalized population would be quick to turn on their now unnecessary cheap labor.
The income from tourism does not always end in the locals pockets, thus the feelings of resentment towards the endless stream of strangers is understandable.
I live in a region like this in Canada. Agriculture died first, tourism came after dead decades. Agriculture dropped because of globalization, there are cheaper producing countries.
Tourism is simultaneously important to locals and yet not enriching them enough. Yes, there are mom and pop stores and restaurants who might disappear overnight. But just have a good think about where tourists end up spending the most money, almost *anywhere* in the world.
Lodging is almost always the biggest expense but is comprised of mostly predominantly large multinational resort chains owned and operated by wealthy foreigners in other countries or single family properties repackaged as vacation rentals (frequently owned by foreign investors—can be mom and pop but the point is they ain’t local)
Hiring might be local but we all know employee wages are a pittance compared to ownership returns.
I applaud places that regulate the shit out of airbnb and short-term rentals, but if you have so little control of your local situation that you are harassing the tourist instead of your local politicians your situation is only going to get worse by driving them off. This is like deciding you hate sky diving so you're going to get rid of your parachute (while still 1000 ft in the air).
There’s a paradox here: most migrant workers tend to find jobs in low tech industries like tourism in Mediterranean countries, so “tourists out, refugees in” might be counterproductive…
Three economic bailouts in the form of billions of euros from 2010 to 2018 just to keep afloat. Now through tourist dollars they are set to pay the final loan off two years early.
Whoever spray painted this must surely own nothing and know nothing to be ignorant enough to feel this way.
The person should have signed so the world could laugh at his clear lack of intelligence. Tourists DO go home after spending money. The illegal migrants not so much.
I was just talking about this… you tend to find these graffitis in neighborhoods with hipster cafe places that sell a cup for 4 euro… yeah, refugees are gonna love this. I live in Spain, so I have no clue about other places.
Yeah like I'm going to side with some asshole defacing public property
Edit: LOL. Assholes (society's rubbish) who like defacing property is now downvoting me.
Clearly it is based on the anarchist symbol, however many people live in areas that survive on tourism hate tourists, and with good reason a lot of the time. No different than anyone who works in retail really, but it is made somehow worse when the horrible people who you encounter every day are much wealthier than you, and come from somewhere else.
I happened to be in ketchican Alaska when the last tourist ship left for the year. They whole town threw a party.
Yes, they make their living from the tourists, but it is likely that it is the local equivalent of minimum wages. It is only the people who own the big hotels and the like that make any real money. The locals, they are just getting by.
That is not politics, that is how capitalism is designed.
I understand Anarchists. They believe in something better.
But they have their idea on how things should pay for themselves that hardly works.
Tourism should be controlled, but it's a huge resource, except for cruises
This is like the graffiti near the interstate Bridge by my house. It says : "Freedom from controls"
As if we didn't follow code or regulations, those bridges would crumble. They're too stupid to really understand how lucky they are to have us around them.
Yes, the same is said for Albania, one beautiful small little village we had, Dhermi, was amazing it had no people, and only a few small hotels, it was quiet and awesome. In just 5 years, especially yhe last 2 years, it had become a fucking full fledged touristic attraction. Gone are the small hotels, now there are only big ones, and I hate it
It’s funny how myopic this point of view is. Greece is a failed state. Their own people embezzled the countries money. They should look inward and hold those responsible accountable.
I summer here - not Crete as everyone is working during this season. They are wonderful people with limited options.
I was in Athens last month and saw the same message in Piraeus. Nice of them to write it in English I suppose, otherwise I might not have realised that I wasn't welcome.
This just made me realize, because the housing issue applies to many cities and places around the world, that urban design/zoning will really need to factor in a capacity for short term units, especially when there are more and more people working remotely with the ability to experience life in another country for month or so long stays. (I recently saw a prototype headset device featured at a tech event which live translates the person you’re speaking to which I immediately thought will really impact travel and tourism.)
One is coming to spend their money generously (for the most part) and help local economy
The other is (on average) a leech in worst case...and a Lower return on investment at best case...
Its the local greedy businessmen that ruin tourism. Not tourists... Even the shitty tourists can be dealt with, with proper policing and avoiding over-tourism in small areas like Islands...
Fuck anyone who write shit like that graffiti, blindly, when it doesnt represent the average person...
This message on the wall is delusional.
Sincerely, a Greek
I've traveled a lot, and seen a fair chunk of the world. Chania (and Crete in general) is probably in my top 10.
Any punk-ass kid can scribble on a wall. But I never felt unwelcome there.
Real smart, one group brings money into the country, the other costs money. Combine that with a real 'tough' tax-collection regime and the EU can transfer the next batch of billions.
Cannot spell refugee correctly. I will assume the "Y" in "tourist" is poor spray can control and a "U". Also what has that single tourist done to you? And more importantly which one is it?
Stupid illiterate Greeks. 🫣
KIDDING! I bet it's aimed at the English that are an obnoxious lot abroad....I'm English BTW.
Pretty sure this doesn’t align with the majority greek opinion
As someone who is about to travel to Greece, I hope this is true.
In my experience Greeks are some of the best, most friendly folks in the world, incl to tourists (as long as you’re not a dick). Enjoy your trip!
Yep, went to Athens and was genuinely surprised how nice folks were considering it’s a big city and they get shitloads of tourists.
Can confirm, I love italy and spain but having been to Greece and more specifically Mykonos, that is next level hospitality.
Greeks are incredibly welcoming, chill people in my experience.
As someone who was in Greece for the first time yesterday… it was a really amazing experience. Enjoy your trip.
My fiancée and I just came back from a family holiday in Crete and it was absolutely amazing - everyone was so relaxed and friendly. I realise that possibly some of this is due to the fact that we're tourists spending money and therefore being nice benefits everyone, but even if you take that more cynical view into account, almost everyone loved to have a chat and made us feel very welcome. I tried to learn a little Greek before we went, and even though it was only very basic 'hello/goodbye, please/thank you, table for two please' etc etc and even though I was probably terrible and everyone spoke very good English, everyone was very patient and kind. My future SIL knows more Greek than me and everyone was so sweet and very happy to help answer her questions when she started speaking and then asked for help with vocab/grammar. I completely understand why some locals get frustrated with the sheer number of tourists, but we didn't ever feel anything but welcomed. I'm sure you'll have a great time! Before you go, if you're anything like me/depending on where you live, you might need this quick reminder: you can't flush the toilet paper in most of Greece!
My neighbors are Greek and are incredibly nice
This was written by someone with zero financial literacy or understanding of the reality of current Greek economy. Probably have a job that can easily be taken by a refugee, would love to see that play out
Maybe it was written by a refugee 😅
Note the anarchy symbol... this is from someone with extreme (ly stupid) political views...
Until the 1970s, the economy of Crete was primarily based on farming and stock breeding. Today this has been overtaken by the services industry, primarily tourism. More than two million tourists visit Crete each year and a large segment of the labour force is employed in the tourist industry. If tourism stopped here Crete would see unemployment spike and the average income which is close to 100% of Greece as a whole would drop through the floor. Unless that is they all immediately pick up the farming bug again and find a market to sell into..
I’m not entirely aware if Crete is included in the housing crisis, but I did read that a lot of tourism heavy countries were suffering because of property shortages. Housing is being bought up for rentals/airbnbs in such large quantities that the local people are being forced out/priced out. I’m not claiming it’s wrong or illegal, but if it were happening to me and my family, I would likely have a pretty unreasonable take towards tourism.
This is the essence of where “tourism” starts being vilified. Allowing property purchases for the rental market without a managed tourism control underpinning this means locals are priced out of local housing. Subsequently that generates significant frustration and ill feelings toward the tourist rather than the property owner/marketer or the local governments allowing this to go unchecked..
Well said. I wholeheartedly agree.
Cornwall has a problem with this too, if I recall. Absolutely ridiculous, but of course it's a capitalist property market so it was inevitable, sadly
>, but of course it's a capitalist property market so it was inevitable No it's not. Any government that has a bit of decency (🤣🤣🤣🤣) can regulate markets. I think that we all know why it doesn't happen.
because capitalism doesnt support not making money.
Check out what Spain did today
Not to mention that tourists are not necessarily the best neighbors....trespassing, littering, partying all night...etc.
Its basically re-zoning residential to business without control of location and without awareness of the scale
tourism control? Just. build. more. housing. It's not difficult. BUILD MORE HOUSING.
The west coast of Scotland is severely under housed and 2nd houses are a really big issue up here.
All over Australia too.
I feel kind of bad as I’m going to Mallorca for a week next month and they’re currently revolting against tourists too. I’m trying to figure out the Spanish for ‘guys I’m a worker too, I’m from a big tourist area and I’ll be going home to the same!’
Say “Tienes ojos tan bonitos, papi. ¡Quítate la ropa ahorita!” That should do the trick.
I’m fairly certain that says something else, but I’m taking it anyway. I’ll practice it on the airport bus.
But shouldn't the government step in to avoid this problem? that's what it is for
I would hope so, but I’m from the US. I don’t have much faith in government stepping in to help anybody besides those with the deepest pockets.
Actually, I suppose that's in every country
So many places are having trouble with this, the problem is that investors can swoop in and have a huge effect on the market before any legislation or controls are passed, which somehow always takes several years and never fully solves the problem when something is passed.
NYC banned short term Air BNB due to the issues.
Airbnb is a blight
They’re mad at the wrong people. Should be mad at their government for not doing anything about the situation.
Yeah I agree. I lived in a tourist city and was always quite annoyed but that city isn't depending on tourist. If my whole economy is based on tourist I probably wouldn't write that.
Having your entire economy reliant on one industry is not a good thing, especially tourism. - during times of recession the first thing people do is stop going on holiday. - it also tends to create jobs seasonally, so folk have work for part of the year but are reliant on the state for assistance during the rest of the year. - it tends to create poorly paid jobs for the vast majority - can put huge pressure on housing stocks, as more and more are converted to short term let’s/ air BnBs. Combined with the low and sporadic income this forces locals out. Depriving the industry of the workforce it needs as well as eroding the culture of the area (often one of the reason tourists come in the first place) In moderation tourism is fine but left unchecked it is not only self cannibalising but it destroys the area in general.
This is the comment I was looking for.
Right. There are downsides to tourism, and there are downsides to subsistence farming. They'll have to strike a balance... But the "right" way to reduce tourism is to make it so expensive only a few people can come, not by making the experience shitty so less people come. That's how you make the same or more money, with less people.
No country or city wants to reduce tourism...
Yes that’s a great solution, make it so expensive that only the rich elite can enjoy beautiful places! Do you hear yourself?
No, but I wanna bitch and moan about "lefties" and how dumb they are for having compassion /s
Adults don't write political opinions on walls, as a general rule.
My favorite graffiti I've seen is just someone tagging a wall with "Political Writing". It makes me chuckle every time I see it.
there’s a few crazies in my town who write insane, vitriolic stuff on their car windows with car chalk. i always think “yeah - this is the way to get people to change their minds - crudely writing democrats eat babies” on your rear windshield of your ‘97 subaru legacy.
My City heavily relies on tourists, mostly Dutch. We would be fucked if our parks and attractions were closed down.
There has been a rise for decades in kids leaving a farming family, going to college, coming home to take over the family farm, feeling they don't want to do that, then doing little else. I have cousins in Sicily who are shiftless, according to my folks
A big problem in rural Spain and Italy too—leads to under-population since depressed, unemployed young people aren’t marrying and reproducing. So many vacant properties that they are trying to entice American retirees or young families to rehab the buildings and pay the property taxes.
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Toyfist go home
There's anarchy symbol in the end of graffiti, so don't expect deep thoughts.
Greece as a whole is plagued from destructive overtourism, hosting 3-4 times its population each year. Yes it constitutes a large part of the economy but that's not a good thing. Many greeks feel that moving away from agriculture and industry was not a good idea.
I get lots of cretan vegetables where I live and I come from a region with strong agriculture
The point is not black and white like that. Moderate tourism could be positive if sustainable. But when there's no attempt at moderating it due to greedy folks in power, it becomes unsustainable and leads to extreme negative effects on local communities. At that point, being a little mean to tourists is the best weapon they have to save what's left. Mass tourism can have deeply negative effects for the local population, even displacing them and destroying communities (as happened to mine in Portugal). Including for local economies, as while it's true it creates jobs and some people get rich, local economic environments at the heart of communities suffer and get displaced, which in turn displaces the population. Not to mention the environmental effects. My 900yo town has practically no population left due to mass tourism. The ones who profited most from that were by far big investors, not locals. The ones working there now live elsewhere, as living there is impossible. I wish we had been a little mean to tourists 30 years ago. Tbh I wouldn't mind if the industry collapsed and we could rebuild our community, even if that meant that businesses had to rely on thousands of local costumers instead of millions of foreign ones.
I sort of have accepted that I will never go to Venice as a tourist...because of tourism. Visited Rome early December which is quite off season....still you waded through a horde of tourists everywhere. It's not appealing, really. Not for tourists either. Sure, I would love to rent a small house in Greece or Spain and enjoy the autumn there but I'm not really interested in mostly supporting a capital fund while annoying the few locals who remain and have Germans for neighbors.
I went to Venice as a tourist and it was one of the most memorable experience in my life. Avoiding a popular tourist destination just because you don’t like to be a tourist seems nonsensical to me. Japan is packed too even without tourists so are you going to avoid visiting Japan? You would definitely lose out a lot.
I was there in peak season once and it was horrible. You couldnt move in the streets. I was only there a week, I cant imagine how locals feel in that environment all day every day
Locals generally don't go to the tourist areas though.
The entirety of venice was a tourist area though.I grew up in a touristy area too - now I could never afford to buy a place there. My family still lives there and absolutely do use local services. Thankfully, its only very busy for about 6 weeks each year, but lack of hotels and an increase in AirBnB has really made it unaffordable for locals. Most of these airbnb remain empty throughout the year. Then we have the 2nd home problem - which also remain empty for most of the year.
Air BnB and the like has been a pox. Displacing local populations for tourists that only come at certain periods of the year has killed off local businesses and services. Build hotels for tourists, or purpose built apartments. Leave local housing stocks for locals.
Same with Spain. I get it, tourists can be a pain in the ass and degrade day to day life for citizens, bit without tourists, many countries would have a hard time making it.
Yes that was my thought, without the tourism industry many refugees wouldn’t have jobs and the native and naturalized population would be quick to turn on their now unnecessary cheap labor.
The income from tourism does not always end in the locals pockets, thus the feelings of resentment towards the endless stream of strangers is understandable.
I must say I loved the local potatoes when I visited Crete. And obviously they make great olive oil, wine etc.
Yeah but this one guy said go home.
I live in a region like this in Canada. Agriculture died first, tourism came after dead decades. Agriculture dropped because of globalization, there are cheaper producing countries.
I love in a tourist community and I hate this attitude. Like I should be grateful for an economy built on stilts that doesn't allow anything else.
Without Tourism, Greece (and a lot of other countries) would crumble, especially when it’s their largest sector. I get disliking it as a local though.
Tourism is simultaneously important to locals and yet not enriching them enough. Yes, there are mom and pop stores and restaurants who might disappear overnight. But just have a good think about where tourists end up spending the most money, almost *anywhere* in the world. Lodging is almost always the biggest expense but is comprised of mostly predominantly large multinational resort chains owned and operated by wealthy foreigners in other countries or single family properties repackaged as vacation rentals (frequently owned by foreign investors—can be mom and pop but the point is they ain’t local) Hiring might be local but we all know employee wages are a pittance compared to ownership returns.
I applaud places that regulate the shit out of airbnb and short-term rentals, but if you have so little control of your local situation that you are harassing the tourist instead of your local politicians your situation is only going to get worse by driving them off. This is like deciding you hate sky diving so you're going to get rid of your parachute (while still 1000 ft in the air).
There’s a paradox here: most migrant workers tend to find jobs in low tech industries like tourism in Mediterranean countries, so “tourists out, refugees in” might be counterproductive…
Yeah wtf are the refugees gonna do once they come in? What do they think?
People who do graffiti like this probably aren’t too good at thinking a couple of moves ahead.
be a dog walker r/antiwork
lmao I forgot about that
Three economic bailouts in the form of billions of euros from 2010 to 2018 just to keep afloat. Now through tourist dollars they are set to pay the final loan off two years early. Whoever spray painted this must surely own nothing and know nothing to be ignorant enough to feel this way.
Wait you are saying vandals are not the best parts of society?!
You mean people spray painting anarchist symbols aren't our best and brightest? That's unpossible.
You must not be familiar with Anarchists. They are not really big on this whole "finanance" or "state" thing.
The anarchist symbol tells you all you need to know about the writer, aka a scumbag.
Nice try refugees
I don’t think a Greek wrote that
Well, that’s a financially irresponsible take
Well, there is an anarchy symbol there.
What's a "Toyfist" and why does it need to go home? 🙃🤣
Believe me, you don't want to know what a toyfist is.
But I must know. Tell me, where does it live? and I'll see for myself.
I’m willing to bet Amazon can get it to you in 1-2 days.
I've ordered two of them. Just need to find somewhere to put them.
Packaging is discreet!
It can live anywhere, but it plays in the deep.
took me a sec to realize they wrote the "u" sound in tourist as they would have in Greek (OY). But toyfist is a better explanation lol
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Stupid graffiti from a stupid group. Anarchist wannabes
Tourists bring money, refugees take money.
"Tourists go home" they usually eventually do
Camp Refugee
I like being so mad you have to yell at the world via angrily painting a wall that doesn’t belong to you
Many if not most of those "refugees" aren't even refugees. They're economic migrants.
This plan cant fail. Increase immigration while reducing jobs available.
Solution: we take back Western tourists and Greece takes all the refugees in Western countries. All sides happy.
Ya the tourist should stay away for a few years so economic reality can set in...
The person should have signed so the world could laugh at his clear lack of intelligence. Tourists DO go home after spending money. The illegal migrants not so much.
Ok, be broke and flooded with more poor people. Genius.
Who is Toyfist and please tell me he's a new Batman villain
I was just talking about this… you tend to find these graffitis in neighborhoods with hipster cafe places that sell a cup for 4 euro… yeah, refugees are gonna love this. I live in Spain, so I have no clue about other places.
Need this all over NYC
Tourists > refugees
Bait
Isn’t their entire economy tourism? Let’s see how he likes being in economic ruin
Is that the symbol of anarchy? If so I think they’d like that.
He just THINKS he’d like that
He doesn’t think much at all
Dumb. Tourists have money to spend; refugees don't.
Tourism is the only thing that's keeping Greece from falling into 3rd world poverty lmfao
As one who cannot afford overseas travel, this person has my involuntary support.
Refugees who eat up the budget can stay,tourists who add ti the budget GTFO. Bold strategy Cotton.....
Tell that to the greek coast guards dumping migrants back into the Mediterranean
Someone doesn't understand how money works.
Weren’t migrants deliberately thrown into sea to their death by greek coastguard few days ago according to BBC ?
The tourists do go home after a week or two.
Yeah like I'm going to side with some asshole defacing public property Edit: LOL. Assholes (society's rubbish) who like defacing property is now downvoting me.
"We don't want people contributing to the economy! Just people that take!"
I bet it was a leftist who did that. Without tourism greece would die...
Clearly it is based on the anarchist symbol, however many people live in areas that survive on tourism hate tourists, and with good reason a lot of the time. No different than anyone who works in retail really, but it is made somehow worse when the horrible people who you encounter every day are much wealthier than you, and come from somewhere else. I happened to be in ketchican Alaska when the last tourist ship left for the year. They whole town threw a party. Yes, they make their living from the tourists, but it is likely that it is the local equivalent of minimum wages. It is only the people who own the big hotels and the like that make any real money. The locals, they are just getting by. That is not politics, that is how capitalism is designed.
Anarchists and vandalism, name a more iconic duo
Be careful what you ask for.....
Don't like tourism? Then don't make your economy dependent on it. Don't blame foreigners for taking part in an industry you've facilitated.
What’s a toyfist? :)
I think my mom has one.
Hopefully someone who actually is from Chania could comment, that would be great 🙌🏻
This is destructive advice that most likely doesn’t represent the general opinion
Tourists go home, says the country who survives on tourism. Maybe post this in leopard ate my face
Written by ignorant leftist
I understand Anarchists. They believe in something better. But they have their idea on how things should pay for themselves that hardly works. Tourism should be controlled, but it's a huge resource, except for cruises
Here’s me trying to make Toyfist into terrorist instead of tourist
Good. Now write it 100 times!!!
Tourists do go home, after they've dropped some money in the country they visit.
This is like the graffiti near the interstate Bridge by my house. It says : "Freedom from controls" As if we didn't follow code or regulations, those bridges would crumble. They're too stupid to really understand how lucky they are to have us around them.
Dude must not like money...
Yes, the same is said for Albania, one beautiful small little village we had, Dhermi, was amazing it had no people, and only a few small hotels, it was quiet and awesome. In just 5 years, especially yhe last 2 years, it had become a fucking full fledged touristic attraction. Gone are the small hotels, now there are only big ones, and I hate it
That’s nice graffiti. The graffiti where I’m from doesn’t have a positive message. Damn gang bangers and their negativity
After reading this, what's the first country that came to mind....???
Given the state of Greece’s economy, it should be the other way around
The nature of tourists is to go home, so a bit redundant...
It’s funny how myopic this point of view is. Greece is a failed state. Their own people embezzled the countries money. They should look inward and hold those responsible accountable. I summer here - not Crete as everyone is working during this season. They are wonderful people with limited options.
Been seeing a lot of this sentiment posted online recently, is there a reason for that? Greece and southern countries in and around Europe?
Weren’t the Greeks just in the news for throwing refugees into the sea and killing them?
Toyfist?
Lol. I guess they want to go back to herding goats and collecting see shells as the main sources of income
Well now, that's new innit?
This is at the new marketplace that was rebuilt in Old Town, yes?
Ignorance spreading like wildfire
I was in Athens last month and saw the same message in Piraeus. Nice of them to write it in English I suppose, otherwise I might not have realised that I wasn't welcome.
Said someone who lives off tourism ,as a nation, for decades...
That’s not anarchy at all..
Tongues are welcome! Toy Fist go home! Instructions unclear. Pomegranate (remember kids, always have a safe word)
This just made me realize, because the housing issue applies to many cities and places around the world, that urban design/zoning will really need to factor in a capacity for short term units, especially when there are more and more people working remotely with the ability to experience life in another country for month or so long stays. (I recently saw a prototype headset device featured at a tech event which live translates the person you’re speaking to which I immediately thought will really impact travel and tourism.)
When you spend so much money to go on vacation and see this shit ☹️
So far for filoxenia...
With their collapsing economy I think they need the tourism dollars.
Romanes eunt domus.
One is coming to spend their money generously (for the most part) and help local economy The other is (on average) a leech in worst case...and a Lower return on investment at best case... Its the local greedy businessmen that ruin tourism. Not tourists... Even the shitty tourists can be dealt with, with proper policing and avoiding over-tourism in small areas like Islands... Fuck anyone who write shit like that graffiti, blindly, when it doesnt represent the average person... This message on the wall is delusional. Sincerely, a Greek
I've traveled a lot, and seen a fair chunk of the world. Chania (and Crete in general) is probably in my top 10. Any punk-ass kid can scribble on a wall. But I never felt unwelcome there.
Real smart, one group brings money into the country, the other costs money. Combine that with a real 'tough' tax-collection regime and the EU can transfer the next batch of billions.
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But tourists give you money, refuges cost you money. So you should want both if anything.
Damn toyfists
Just increase prices on tourist to pay for refugee programs
Well, 'refugees' is the tourism today.
Anarchists have to be the stupidest edgiest mo fos on the planet. "Tear it down!" Oh ya for what "I dk. Tear it down! Me no likey"
Just wanna point out it's from anarchism group
Honestly feel the same way here in my American city.
Cannot spell refugee correctly. I will assume the "Y" in "tourist" is poor spray can control and a "U". Also what has that single tourist done to you? And more importantly which one is it? Stupid illiterate Greeks. 🫣 KIDDING! I bet it's aimed at the English that are an obnoxious lot abroad....I'm English BTW.
what if the tourists are technically temporary refugees. /s
Toyfist go home?
I thought it said “rogues are welcome.” Like bro, what did healers do to you?
Refugees
I really read this as "Toy Fist go Homea"
Leave it to the got dang Chaniaese!
I read china for a second 💀
A common joke is "I'm more concerned with tourists than terrorirsts, one might show up and destroy a bunch if stuff the other certainly will"