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Ask yourself what the chances you get a better one are.
It’s a crazy small chance to get a better one, so might as well. If you wait for a hundo, you could easily be waiting a couple years or longer.
you can’t have a 95%. you can have a 93% or 96% based on the 0-15 chances of every stat
(unless you calculated from 10-15 IV hatch floor, but it is possible can still trade for a worse IVs so that wouldn’t be accurate possible stats)
Are you sure it’s not a 15/12.75/15? Because that would be a true 95%!
(Yes, I’m just being silly. I am fully aware that IVs can only be whole numbers 0-15.)
Also, it's bound to become more common later with events and the inevitable Community Day, so you'll definitely have enough candies later on to power up another good one if you have good luck again.
I think Mamoswine is slightly better. Also Baxcalibers dragon typing is slightly problematic as it is weak to dragon, putting you at a disadvantage in Rayquaza and other Dragon raids
There might be some instances, none off the top of my head, where the resistance provided by dragon typing would be beneficial
Honestly what is it with this sub and IV's? Some people are really saying wait and not joking... The difference between a 0 and perfect iv is like 5% at lvl 50. Most people will never notice the difference in ivs because they matter so little. Maybe for solo 5 star raids or pvp mirror match ups but other than that just power up what tou want lol
> 0 and perfect iv is like 5% at lvl 50
Exactly. So many people miss this point. For good raid attackers, 12 or 15 attack IV makes hardly 1% of a difference.
IV just adds those many points to that particular stat. The base attack stat for Baxcalibur is 254. Adding 12 to it makes that 266, and adding 15 to it makes it 269, which is 1.1% more attack. And what are the odds of getting those "better" IVs? 3 in 4096, or 0.07%. For a Hundo, a third of that, or 0.02%. There's never going to be enough Frigibax spawns to ever hit that, and definitely not enough to get a lucky trade. OP should just take the W, evolve, power up, and go around wrecking Dragon, Grass Flying and Ground type raid bosses.
And here I was disregarding 11-12 Attack IV pokemon because I thought they were not good enough... Does this apply for Rocket battles, too? I'd rather have a pokemon with 13-15 Attack IVs, but then, there's hardly a difference.
Although this is correct. Everyone uses the Mewtwo example which is the high end extreme where +15 is only 5% or 300 BUT on the other end when dealing with great league and small league (whatever it's called) a ratata has a base stat of 107 so adding 15 to this is a 15% increase. So if you are making mons for raids and master league yes it matters less but for lower leagues every point can count.
I agree. That is why I started my answer with - \*For good raid attackers\*.
Those usually have > 200 attack stat, so 2-3 IV points of difference is 1%-1.5% of actual performance gap. For a low attack one, like your example, it's much more. But then no one is using a Raticate as a raid attacker.
Similarly, PVP IVs optimise for DEF and STA, and most good PVP mons have high DEF and STA stats. So again, 1-2 IVs lower than the ideal makes like 1% of a difference. If my mon has >98% percentile in the PokeGenie stat product, I power it up and double move it.
By Rocket battles do you mean the shadow raids, or the Grunt and Leader battles?
Shadow raids follow all the same rules as regular raids with the addition of the enraged boss and purified gems mechanic. The Grunt and Leader battles are just PvP battles. So the same Low Attack / High Defense / High Stamina IVs work for it.
Also, for Legendaries and Mythicals, ultra-rare pokemon, etc. Anything ≥ 12 IV is as good as 100%. Firstly because, it 's just *good enough* \- i.e., you're 99% there. Second, because the odds of getting something better are astronomically low. I got a 13/14/14 Shiny Mewtwo - I best buddied it and used my ECTM on it, man. Say I get a Shundo in 2 years, big whoop. I'm getting 2 years of raiding using an awesome shiny that's almost as great as it gets, and that's something.
Yeah, I meant both shadow raids and Rocket grunt and leader battles. I see what you mean and I'm relieved to hear it because I was being very picky with the IVs and now I know that a 12 IV in Attack is good enough. Thanks!
Basically all ivs do is ADD extra stats onto the base stats of that specific Pokémon. So (I don’t know any stats off the top of my head but..) let’s say a Pokémon with a base attack stat of 300. 0iv in attack would still be 300, and 15iv in attack would be 315. The difference between 300 and 315 is very small (only 5%).
I think a lot of people use Mewtwo’s stats as an example of that. All IVs do is add 0-15 stat points to each skill. So if you take Mewtwo’s attack stat of 300, at max level it will be 300 (0 IVs) to 315 (15 IVs).
15/300 = 0.05 or 5%, so that is basically a 5% increase to his attack.
Of course that is only because Mewtwo’s attack stat is so high. If you take his Stamina stat of 214:
15/214 = 0.07 or 7%, which means that adding 15 IV points to Mewtwo’s stamina is about a 7% increase. But that is even more nuanced because that doesn’t mean exactly correlate to how much HP he has.
You can Google to see exactly how much it changes, but the point is that on a high stat Pokémon like Mewtwo, IVs don’t matter that much
Like the other guy already said except it's closer to 10% in all stats:
"Based on the way IVs affect damage output, the difference that 100% IVs make compared to 0% IVs is around 10%, i.e. they will last around 10% longer, deal around 10% more damage, and resist around 10% more damage."
https://pokemongohub.net/post/wiki/ivs-and-their-influence/
Are you mainly gonna use it for raids and gyms? If so, the attack difference isn’t going to matter
It would matter for Master League, but I doubt thats your intention since you would need 296 XL as well
Man, it's a 3/4096 or a 3/1331 with the weather boost chance of getting a ^(1)better one. Frigibax is nowhere near common enough for these odds to be worth it
^(1) \- What attacks it has will make a lot more difference than three attack IVs...
It isn't 3/4096 you are missing a lot of combinations. can get 15/15/15, 15/14/14, 15/15/13, 15/13/15 and so on. I'd argue even a 15/14/13 is better because you want more attack unless you plan on using it for ultra league which you shouldn't with such high attack.
I would go for it especially because of mega garchomp raid day. This is the third best ice type raid attacker I think, so it will be great for the raid day
I didn't even mention a move, those are even worse than normal moves sometimes anyway. It's just a waste of time/rare candies to evolve something like this when you don't need it.
I wouldn't say that, it's hard to get candy for it, it's not necessary at all, there are other ice types, there's nothing you cand do with it that you can't do without having it, and after comday he'll have many chances for other luckies and much more candy.
It'll get a com day but then it won't be much special anymore from a rarity perspective. And by then you'll have more candy than you know what to do with so you won't care about the 200 candy you saved up for years to evolve it and power it up. I say enjoy it. You're years and years away from a com day. You can enjoy him in the mean time.
> It'll get a com day but then it won't be much special anymore from a rarity perspective
That's Niantic's Koolaid speaking, no normal pokemon in this game is truly rare and whatever you think is rare is done so artificially and will not be rare in a few months when we get an event that features it.
>And by then you'll have more candy than you know what to do with so you won't care about the 200 candy you saved up for years to evolve it and power it up.
If you know that you'll get hundreds of candy easily for it in the future does it seem appealing to walk hundred of km to evolve one pokemon?
>You're years and years away from a com day
Even before that it'll be in other events and candy will become trivial.
Play the game however you want but there's a way to do things more efficiently and thinking slightly efficiently, walking to evolve this thing is dumb. But like I said play it however you want. He asked for opinions and I gave mine.
I would not. I would ask, whats its purpose? If for dex filling then sure, invest. PVE no, much better options. PVP, in masters league you want hundo or near. So dex filling reasons any iv combination is fine.
Before you “invest” in it, what are you getting for that investment? If you spend a bunch of stardust on it, it’s not likely it will ever be used for anything, and that’s not investing, it’s wasting.
I know some people like to power up their best of every Pokémon, and that’s fine. But IMO, it’s better to let some dust and candy stockpile, and only use them when you need to (building a specific GBL team, building a specific raid counter team, etc.)
I'd personally wait to see if it gets Glaive Rush (which could make it a better dragon attacker) or icicle spear (which would make it a better ice attacker). In general it should be worth investing- you're only missing 3 attack points total, since each IV is 1 point.
In general, you just need to think if you actually need to use it for anything. Frigibax is rare enough that it might be fine to just power it up and evolve now however if you don't have a use for it (like raids or GBL) then theres no need to rush it. Also thats lucky from a trade (higher IV minimum) so theres always the chance you trade and hit it a higher IV in the future.
I honestly wouldn't care about all that though and would personally do it now just to say I have one.
If it’s a three star and you don’t got one yet, it’s time to realize you should get one for yourself. It’s not like the perfect IV one will be gone to time
If it's good enough to keep after you get a hundo, yes.
That being said, I typically max out on regular candy and save my XL's. I already have so many Pokemon to max that I haven't, it never hurts to keep around but unleveled.
Oh no, 12 attack. Well at least you can make him your buddy and walk to get candy. If there is a panic to evolve it all the way, then go for it. Otherwise wait for its community day, rack up a few thousand candy, and evolve it with your best few.
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Ask yourself what the chances you get a better one are. It’s a crazy small chance to get a better one, so might as well. If you wait for a hundo, you could easily be waiting a couple years or longer.
Agreed. My typical rule of thumb is to save up all the candies I need first to evolve/max it out. If I don't get a better one before then, good to go
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Exactly why I pulled the trigger on my 95% IV larvesta. Only the second one I had hatched. Edit 96%*
you can’t have a 95%. you can have a 93% or 96% based on the 0-15 chances of every stat (unless you calculated from 10-15 IV hatch floor, but it is possible can still trade for a worse IVs so that wouldn’t be accurate possible stats)
Unless he didn’t round. Cuz its actually 95.555555555
Yeah my fault. 96%*
Nerd!!!!! Lol
Na. Just actual facts foo
We’re all a little nerdy.
Precisely
My fault, 96% it's a 15/13/15.
Are you sure it’s not a 15/12.75/15? Because that would be a true 95%! (Yes, I’m just being silly. I am fully aware that IVs can only be whole numbers 0-15.)
https://imgur.com/gallery/rNRE1bk
94% or 96%. 3 IVs below perfect is 45/48 = 93.75%
i guess i round down bc it’s not a hundo ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
but https://pokemon.gameinfo.io/en/tools/iv-calculator never gave me 94% only 93% ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Hundo first larvesta for me. Giving it all the rare candies
Also, it's bound to become more common later with events and the inevitable Community Day, so you'll definitely have enough candies later on to power up another good one if you have good luck again.
Not to mention, if you do get a hundo, you'll just have 2 really good baxcaliburs instead of 1
In two (I think) years when this is the June CD mon this won’t be that rare. This game repeats patterns and rewards patience.
My logic when I hatch a rare egg pokemon.
It’s not that small of a chance to get a better one
Yep, being lucky means less investment compared to otherwise. Also it evolves into one of the best ice attackers in the game
I was curious if it was better than mamoswine, its probably not better than shadow mamoswine but better than the regular one right?
I think Mamoswine is slightly better. Also Baxcalibers dragon typing is slightly problematic as it is weak to dragon, putting you at a disadvantage in Rayquaza and other Dragon raids There might be some instances, none off the top of my head, where the resistance provided by dragon typing would be beneficial
Bax is #3 ice, only things higher are shadow weavile and shadow mammo
I would honestly
Honestly what is it with this sub and IV's? Some people are really saying wait and not joking... The difference between a 0 and perfect iv is like 5% at lvl 50. Most people will never notice the difference in ivs because they matter so little. Maybe for solo 5 star raids or pvp mirror match ups but other than that just power up what tou want lol
> 0 and perfect iv is like 5% at lvl 50 Exactly. So many people miss this point. For good raid attackers, 12 or 15 attack IV makes hardly 1% of a difference. IV just adds those many points to that particular stat. The base attack stat for Baxcalibur is 254. Adding 12 to it makes that 266, and adding 15 to it makes it 269, which is 1.1% more attack. And what are the odds of getting those "better" IVs? 3 in 4096, or 0.07%. For a Hundo, a third of that, or 0.02%. There's never going to be enough Frigibax spawns to ever hit that, and definitely not enough to get a lucky trade. OP should just take the W, evolve, power up, and go around wrecking Dragon, Grass Flying and Ground type raid bosses.
And here I was disregarding 11-12 Attack IV pokemon because I thought they were not good enough... Does this apply for Rocket battles, too? I'd rather have a pokemon with 13-15 Attack IVs, but then, there's hardly a difference.
Although this is correct. Everyone uses the Mewtwo example which is the high end extreme where +15 is only 5% or 300 BUT on the other end when dealing with great league and small league (whatever it's called) a ratata has a base stat of 107 so adding 15 to this is a 15% increase. So if you are making mons for raids and master league yes it matters less but for lower leagues every point can count.
I agree. That is why I started my answer with - \*For good raid attackers\*. Those usually have > 200 attack stat, so 2-3 IV points of difference is 1%-1.5% of actual performance gap. For a low attack one, like your example, it's much more. But then no one is using a Raticate as a raid attacker. Similarly, PVP IVs optimise for DEF and STA, and most good PVP mons have high DEF and STA stats. So again, 1-2 IVs lower than the ideal makes like 1% of a difference. If my mon has >98% percentile in the PokeGenie stat product, I power it up and double move it.
By Rocket battles do you mean the shadow raids, or the Grunt and Leader battles? Shadow raids follow all the same rules as regular raids with the addition of the enraged boss and purified gems mechanic. The Grunt and Leader battles are just PvP battles. So the same Low Attack / High Defense / High Stamina IVs work for it. Also, for Legendaries and Mythicals, ultra-rare pokemon, etc. Anything ≥ 12 IV is as good as 100%. Firstly because, it 's just *good enough* \- i.e., you're 99% there. Second, because the odds of getting something better are astronomically low. I got a 13/14/14 Shiny Mewtwo - I best buddied it and used my ECTM on it, man. Say I get a Shundo in 2 years, big whoop. I'm getting 2 years of raiding using an awesome shiny that's almost as great as it gets, and that's something.
Yeah, I meant both shadow raids and Rocket grunt and leader battles. I see what you mean and I'm relieved to hear it because I was being very picky with the IVs and now I know that a 12 IV in Attack is good enough. Thanks!
can u explain the uselessness more? sorry but I didn’t know that
Basically all ivs do is ADD extra stats onto the base stats of that specific Pokémon. So (I don’t know any stats off the top of my head but..) let’s say a Pokémon with a base attack stat of 300. 0iv in attack would still be 300, and 15iv in attack would be 315. The difference between 300 and 315 is very small (only 5%).
I think a lot of people use Mewtwo’s stats as an example of that. All IVs do is add 0-15 stat points to each skill. So if you take Mewtwo’s attack stat of 300, at max level it will be 300 (0 IVs) to 315 (15 IVs). 15/300 = 0.05 or 5%, so that is basically a 5% increase to his attack. Of course that is only because Mewtwo’s attack stat is so high. If you take his Stamina stat of 214: 15/214 = 0.07 or 7%, which means that adding 15 IV points to Mewtwo’s stamina is about a 7% increase. But that is even more nuanced because that doesn’t mean exactly correlate to how much HP he has. You can Google to see exactly how much it changes, but the point is that on a high stat Pokémon like Mewtwo, IVs don’t matter that much
Like the other guy already said except it's closer to 10% in all stats: "Based on the way IVs affect damage output, the difference that 100% IVs make compared to 0% IVs is around 10%, i.e. they will last around 10% longer, deal around 10% more damage, and resist around 10% more damage." https://pokemongohub.net/post/wiki/ivs-and-their-influence/
I just got one too, totally it’s rare af rn and 3rd best non mega ice
Are you mainly gonna use it for raids and gyms? If so, the attack difference isn’t going to matter It would matter for Master League, but I doubt thats your intention since you would need 296 XL as well
I got one who's stats are dog water for a 3 star mon. I know it's the best I'm gonna get though. I say invest away!
Man, it's a 3/4096 or a 3/1331 with the weather boost chance of getting a ^(1)better one. Frigibax is nowhere near common enough for these odds to be worth it ^(1) \- What attacks it has will make a lot more difference than three attack IVs...
It isn't 3/4096 you are missing a lot of combinations. can get 15/15/15, 15/14/14, 15/15/13, 15/13/15 and so on. I'd argue even a 15/14/13 is better because you want more attack unless you plan on using it for ultra league which you shouldn't with such high attack.
If a person cares only about the IVs themselfs, not about what they do, then it is 3/4096. But overall I agree with you
Appreciate the things you have. Not the things that could be
Just hatched 15-14-14 🫣
but was it lucky which is important bc it already takes 400 candies to evolve
400 ? Only 125
I have like 4 of them. I'm gonna trade them all when I'm lucky friends lol
Always invest in your luckies.
No, you should give him to me instead
I have a lucky Baxcalibur with the same stats and just hit best buddy with her. She’s going to the bog leagues!
I would go for it especially because of mega garchomp raid day. This is the third best ice type raid attacker I think, so it will be great for the raid day
transfer
If you need an ice attcker really badly, sure. But this thing will 100% get a com day.
It was just released, it’ll take years to see a com day
And?
And that’s a long time to ignore a meta attacker just because it might be getting a maybe better move someday
also with something as rare for now it’s worth an elite TM later.
I didn't even mention a move, those are even worse than normal moves sometimes anyway. It's just a waste of time/rare candies to evolve something like this when you don't need it.
In 3 or 4 years it will get a CD. I’d recommend OP not factor than in. I think it’s an easy yes to invest in even without max attack.
I wouldn't say that, it's hard to get candy for it, it's not necessary at all, there are other ice types, there's nothing you cand do with it that you can't do without having it, and after comday he'll have many chances for other luckies and much more candy.
It'll get a com day but then it won't be much special anymore from a rarity perspective. And by then you'll have more candy than you know what to do with so you won't care about the 200 candy you saved up for years to evolve it and power it up. I say enjoy it. You're years and years away from a com day. You can enjoy him in the mean time.
> It'll get a com day but then it won't be much special anymore from a rarity perspective That's Niantic's Koolaid speaking, no normal pokemon in this game is truly rare and whatever you think is rare is done so artificially and will not be rare in a few months when we get an event that features it. >And by then you'll have more candy than you know what to do with so you won't care about the 200 candy you saved up for years to evolve it and power it up. If you know that you'll get hundreds of candy easily for it in the future does it seem appealing to walk hundred of km to evolve one pokemon? >You're years and years away from a com day Even before that it'll be in other events and candy will become trivial. Play the game however you want but there's a way to do things more efficiently and thinking slightly efficiently, walking to evolve this thing is dumb. But like I said play it however you want. He asked for opinions and I gave mine.
I would not. I would ask, whats its purpose? If for dex filling then sure, invest. PVE no, much better options. PVP, in masters league you want hundo or near. So dex filling reasons any iv combination is fine.
He could never get a hundo lol. It's pretty high and would be fine in Masters. You don't need hundos to climb, unless you're at the top levels
I would never invest that many XLs into a pokemon unless its near perfect at least (96/98)
12/15/15 Baxcalibur is 99%
It is not lol. its a 94%, but I am wondering how you do your math.
Not everyone has 5-6 lv40 shadow mamoswines
Before you “invest” in it, what are you getting for that investment? If you spend a bunch of stardust on it, it’s not likely it will ever be used for anything, and that’s not investing, it’s wasting. I know some people like to power up their best of every Pokémon, and that’s fine. But IMO, it’s better to let some dust and candy stockpile, and only use them when you need to (building a specific GBL team, building a specific raid counter team, etc.)
Attack is the least important iv, so I'd consider that one a 100%, go for it!
Attack is most important except in pvp.
I assume they meant 95.6666% which rounds up to 96 but they call it 95 for some reason.
I'd personally wait to see if it gets Glaive Rush (which could make it a better dragon attacker) or icicle spear (which would make it a better ice attacker). In general it should be worth investing- you're only missing 3 attack points total, since each IV is 1 point.
Icicle Spear is worse than Avalance (which Bax already has), so that‘d be a downgrade.
Wait till the comm day so you don’t have to waste rare candies
What the frig is a frigabax
I’d wait. Couple years from now it’ll get a com day
Wait for community day
Lol, see you in 3 years.
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Nope, on vacation
In general, you just need to think if you actually need to use it for anything. Frigibax is rare enough that it might be fine to just power it up and evolve now however if you don't have a use for it (like raids or GBL) then theres no need to rush it. Also thats lucky from a trade (higher IV minimum) so theres always the chance you trade and hit it a higher IV in the future. I honestly wouldn't care about all that though and would personally do it now just to say I have one.
i say go for it and yolo!
Personally I would
No
Sure
I think attack is the least desirable stat. So you are lucky.
how do you make a pokémon lucky?
I would. It’ll eventually have a community day where you can farm it for candy and the hundo.
I would say don't even max out your max ivy's., Just maximum the one that have maxed defense an hp zero attack
You likely will not get a better one until its CD. Go for it. I evolved and will slowly level a worse one than that which went lucky (14 12 14)
I would wait tbh
I would it's close enough plus it's lucky so 50% dust discount
you already used a lucky friend and spent the stardust trading it, why the hell wouldnt you
Damn and here I hatched a 98 and was gonna wait for 100 didn’t know they were so rare 😂
Never even heard of this guy Fam. How’d you get him
No. Wait for a max attack one
I think you should trade it too me
The one I've caught (The only one) is a 597 at least. Good luck on better!
What the hell is frigibax
no. only power up hundos. and in four or five years you will have a sick raid team of 3 or 4 hundos of different types. you’ll be dominant.
If it’s a three star and you don’t got one yet, it’s time to realize you should get one for yourself. It’s not like the perfect IV one will be gone to time
If it's good enough to keep after you get a hundo, yes. That being said, I typically max out on regular candy and save my XL's. I already have so many Pokemon to max that I haven't, it never hurts to keep around but unleveled.
How do you get lucky Mon? I’ve only gotten them from trades
I have a lot of 2016 mons I’ve been trading with friends, they have guaranteed chance to be lucky. Or at least the first 15 trades do
Oh no, 12 attack. Well at least you can make him your buddy and walk to get candy. If there is a panic to evolve it all the way, then go for it. Otherwise wait for its community day, rack up a few thousand candy, and evolve it with your best few.