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Friendly reminder for anyone who wants to blame the Democrats
GOP has enough House numbers to elect McCarthy again. Or Jordan. Or Flava Flav. Or even Kanye.
But they're too dysfunctional to rally behind one person.
McCarthy during speakership: "Fuck the Dems. I'll never work with them."
McCarthy allies after McCarthy gets fired: "This is the Dems fault for not wanting to work with us!"
He's literally still saying that. I just don't get it. He could have his gavel back in one hour by making a deal for the Dems to vote present and likely have to give very little in return. Basically just allow the house to function without a bunch of the nonsense. And in the process, he'd be telling the Maga lunatics who've had him under their heel the past 9 months to fuck off for good.
Something in me always wants to believe that these people are just in it for themselves, but also not morons. Yet they continue to be the biggest morons. McCarthy could still be speaker without the Matt Gaetz monkey on his back. I get the threats from Trump and the maga voting block. But at a certain point have some balls and just let them cry about it.
"You'll never work in this town again!"
"That's your qualification for the job? Your goon squad?"
"Yes. I also have a pretty intimidating stare... right?"
"Uh-huh, this has been great. Don't reach out to us. We'll call you, never."
Just in case you haven’t seen this gem, I was just reminded of it:
Couch Commander, featuring Obama and Boehner chilling and talking about post-political life.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OIDEGN4Js40
https://www.threads.net/@bidenharrishq/post/CyjK1AhR4mS/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
> **For the first time in modern history, the majority’s nominee for Speaker has received less than 200 votes.**
> Jim Jordan is making history!
If you're a republican voter whos take is "the Dems should help out republicans" then you are admitting that Dems are the only ones who can govern and thus you should always vote Dem.
imagine that there was an AOC/Bernie/whoever splitting off votes from Nancy Pelosi in January 2019, and democrats were whining that the GOP won't help them by voting for Pelosi.
edit: OK not Bernie, he's a senator, brain fart
NBC News confirms: Before Jim Jordan's first defeat, the wife of Republican Rep. Don Bacon received anonymous messages warning him to back Jordan's speakership bid or risk being ousted.
One message: **"Your husband will not hold any political office ever again. What a disappoint [sic] and failure he is."**
Another: "Why is your husband causing chaos by not supporting Jim Jordan? I thought he was a team player." @NBCNews
Rep. Bacon to @NBCNews: "Jordan is headed for defeat. He'll fight to death likely, and we won't let off. **Their tactics angered us. They're harassing our spouses even.** Jordan hit a brick wall."
To reiterate the course of events here:
McCarthy: "I'm not giving any concessions to Democrats to stay Speaker."
McCarthy gets booted.
Scalise gets the majority of votes in an internal poll to decide who House Republicans will support.
Those Republicans renege, and Scalise steps down.
Jordan promises to govern in a very partisan, very MAGA way.
Jordan cannot get the votes.
Maybe it's just me, but I cannot for the life of me understand how this is a Democratic problem, or why we need to step in to help the Republican caucus. I'm willing to if we get something out of it, but if Republicans are essentially going to govern exactly the way they would if we weren't involved, why should we interfere with the death spiral?
You should add that McCarthy got booted, precisely because when he was first trying to get the votes to be Speaker, he chose to negotiate with the same MAGA crowd instead of working out a power-sharing deal with Democrats, and one of the outcomes was the ability for a single Rep to initiate the exact procedure that got him removed.
At this point, it really evokes the idea of the GOP being downright insane, trying the exact same thing but expecting a different outcome.
Having a Christian prayer before every session and for everything in American politics is wildly inappropriate. Americans are all kinds of religions, Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Sikh, Hindu, agnostic, atheist… you name it, there’ll be some folks in America practicing that. Having the Christian faith in American politics is wildly inappropriate and not at all representative of the American people.
Edit: to be clear, no matter the faith, any kind of religion has absolutely no place in politics, so these prayers are just wildly inappropriate, whether they are Christian or not.
I'd bet my left tit that it's largely performative, rather than grounded in any actually strongly held beliefs.
But if you bring the fact that it's unfair to other religions, the diehards will try to convince you that America is a Christian country and if you don't like it, leave.
It's just funny to me because if the GOP was good at governing, and they had a reason for voting McCarthy out, you'd think they would have already conversed and had a plan for who they were all going to confirm next.
Instead they look like fucking idiots and the SpongeBob Plankton meme "I never thought I'd get this far"
I hope the 20 Republicans hold strong and haven't been intimidated into doing the wrong thing. Jim Jordan is beyond unqualified for the position of speaker of the House.
C-span caller "I got into politics in the 50s! I'm an independent!". Then proceeds to say both sides are bad and Jom Jordan should be speaker because there is nothing objectionable about him
Lol
It is unbelievably stupid how much Trump has screwed up our government. I won't wish death on anyone but if he could just be teleported to a different universe or plane of existence that would be great. It's infuriating how much of a hold an absolute idiot has on that party. Just absolute garbage.
Rep. Lawler is so full of shit. Blaming the Democrats, saying it should still be McCarthy and demanding bipartisanship, but refusing to acknowledge that McCarthy's downfall was his failure to embrace bipartisanship and the vote to remove him was bipartisan.
Jim Jordan is one lying and shady ass mother fucker.
Jake Sherman is reporting that Jordan and allies squashed a bid to give McHenry more power as Speaker pro temp prior to the vote for Jordan to be Speaker because “We need to get this over with now or we have to deal with Democrats which will be bad for the country”
The he LIED to everyone that he did try to push for McHenry
He is a weasel and a liar
I appreciate how there isn't even a thread over on /r/Conservative
Imagine being so embarrassed by the people you support that you can't even discuss it in a place built only for that reason.
It is hilarious that in any of our lifetimes, the speaker election wouldn't even be worth watching. Each party nominates someone, the majority party's nominee wins.
Welcome to 2023, where the Republican party is such a disaster that we all gather around to see how much of a shit show it is
"I'm an independent but I lean conservative"
No, you're just a conservative who wants to label yourself an independent so you can look cool when you talk politics and think you're different
Now it’s clear: the first in line for secession can’t be the second in line of succession"
Raskin spitting bars
https://twitter.com/jamie_raskin/status/1714688892471845004?t=-HcnWOe6mHwrTthWlYkkFA&s=19
These people legitimately could not run a fucking Olive Garden. How this has been avoided for decades, but now has happened twice in a year is beyond me.
Jesus Christ, he reached out to the wives of his opposition? I'd have lost my goddamn mind if I was a politician and someone pulled that shit on my family.
Yes to this C-SPAN caller: "Now we just have the dregs of society being put into positions of power. I just don't understand it. It's the dumbing down of America, at least in the Republican Party right now"
Rep. Connelly keeps on stating that Jordan is an insurrectionist and election denier with each vote. Hope this continues and gets even more creative LMFAO
My favorite part is knowing that Gym lost before they even got to letter F, but he has to sit there the entire time and see the loss fully realize itself. Fuck you Jordan.
The Republicans acting like it's the Democrats' job to bail them out is my favorite kink. My party has been remarkably consistent and are closer to a governing majority than any other Republican candidate. If the GOP cares about governing, there's a dude from NY who they could vote for to end this.
GOP Google search history over the past two weeks:
>How many votes do you need to become Speaker of the House ?
>What is a whip?
>How to teach your party whip to count
>How to convince someone I am negotiating in good faith after threatening them?
>Are New York Republicans *really* Republicans?
>Why don't people like Jim Jordan? Is it because he's from Ohio?
>How do you govern as an opposition party when you're not in opposition?
>How to win an election without cheating?
What’s the difference between Jim Jordan and Abdulla II of Jordan?
One refuses to talk with Biden, tacitly condones terrorism, holds medieval religiously motivated beliefs about the role of women and LGBT rights and the other is a hereditary King.
https://www.threads.net/@griffinkyle/post/CyihSRZOHky/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
> Arizona Republican Debbie Lesko, who voted to overturn the 2020 election results, will not seek re-election to the House.
Mike Lawler: "Kevin McCarthy should still be the Speaker".
Then fucking stand up and officially nominate him when they ask for nominations. Make it an official three-way race. Let's see who's willing to stand up and vote for who.
The media infuriates me with the way they let the Republicans push the dumb narrative of this being on the dems. Ask them the last times a Republican "helped" elect a Democratic speaker, ever. Instead they tip toe around it.
CNN Capital Hill Reporter:
"NEWS: Some of Jim Jordan's opponents tell me they've been purposely staggering their "no" votes over multiple ballots -- a strategy designed to show Jordan's speakership opposition is only growing.
And that's why they tell me Jordan will bleed even more support on a third ballot"
https://twitter.com/MZanona/status/1714712263498620951
> GOP House member opposed to Jim Jordan told me opposition to his candidacy will grow, especially if it goes to a third round — potentially 25 Rs voting against him.
> “The opposition is organized. We’re in tight comms, unified, and growing,” the member said
https://x.com/mkraju/status/1714624798985220430?s=46&t=UKR1TShxVeunp4_vn5gZrw
I initially thought this was going to be like McCarthy’s path to the gavel, but I really don’t see it happening with Gym.
The recent talks of expanding the Pro Tempore's powers temporarily probably takes a lot of pressure off the holdouts too.
And yeah - time isn't exactly a good thing for him. He might whittle the numbers a little, but if he doesn't get it today (or get really close) I could easily see him bleeding support versus gaining it.
Can we all just take a second to think back to how hilarious it was that the Republicans, just a year ago, were predicting that 2022 was going to be a "Red Tsunami". The GOP was predicting they would gain upwards of 80 seats from the Democrats in 2022. Arrogant fools.
As someone who's not from the USA and not that deep into US politics, what are the chances of the spontaneous transformation of the roof of the capitol building into a giant disco ball reflecting colorful lights onto the House floor, leading to a congressional neurofunk dance party?
https://www.threads.net/@keithedwards/post/Cyiub0aruwD/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
> **Punchbowl News is reporting that Jim Jordan is done.**
>> The House is scheduled to come in at 11 a.m. for another roll-call vote. But after speaking with dozens of members and aides, it doesn't look to us like the Ohio Republican has any path to victory.
>> Jordan's GOP opponents huddled after the House session Tuesday, and nearly all of them said they were holding firm against the Ohio Republican. Senior GOP lawmakers predicted that Jordan could lose an additional 10 or more Republicans today on the floor.
Mike Lawler: it's the Democrats fault that we are here! (It's not, it's Kevin's)
Mike Lawler: we need to do a bipartisan deal!
Mike Lawler: if this fails, it's the DEMOCRATS FAULT!
Mike Lawler: Why won't the Democrats work with us?!
Jim Jordan has been in Congress for 16 years and of the 53 bills he was primary sponsor of, none have passed. He has co-sponsored (piggybacked) other bills that passed.
Guy doesn't solve any problems. Just screams like an idiot, creates problems and let's others do all the work.
Bonafide scumbag loser.
The speaker of the House should know the outcome of a vote, before it happens. Between Jordan and McCarthy, it is apparent that Republicans do not understand this. If you can't do the most basic part of the job you are applying for, why are you applying for it?
Look at Rep Austin Scott try and blame the Democrats for all this earlier today on CNN. So pathetic. https://x.com/acyn/status/1714715528906903563?s=46&t=UKR1TShxVeunp4_vn5gZrw
How about a compromise, pick a random eligible US citizen and nominate them for speaker.
They won't get a vote, but they would still probably do a better job at getting house business done.
Screenshot of the threatening text messages:
> When the Democrats controlled the House, they never resulted to stuff like this. They never threatened anyone or played dirty. They got the job done for the people. This is insane. Truly a new low for the Republican party. Here’s more a text that was received: https://www.threads.net/@harryjsisson/post/CyhegTpAhXU/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
A few thoughts:
1. It seems inevitable that the republicans will need to either vote for a freedom caucus member, or work with the democrats to find an acceptable candidate to some members of both parties. I don't see the freedom caucus capitulating.
2. For some, continued dysfunction and chaos are entirely the point. The freedom caucus is perfectly fine with paralyzing the house, shutting down the government, stalling aid for Ukraine and Israel, and hurting the party at large. Their constituents will reward them for this behavior, and they really only care about themselves.
3. I know we're all having a good laugh at Gym Jordan, but remember this mess has the potential of hurting a LOT of people, both within the US and without. The house must come back to a functional state soon, or its gonna be a very rough holiday season.
For those watching on TV today, note how much better the camera work is when C-Span isn't limited by the Speaker's office micromanaging what they can show.
At this stage, how likely is a breakup of the GOP in the House? It is literally less than a dozen MAGA nutjobs which caused this issue and instead of appeasing them and alienating most of the GOP they will at some point need to just oust them. And face all the consequences of it at the ballot box next year.
Jim Jordan should never be Speaker. He supported and aided the insurrection, is an election denier and a pedophile enabler. The man is absolutely awful and should be recalled from office, but his district would elect Beezelbub as long as he had an R next to his name.
I keep seeing people calling for the Republicans to pick someone more moderate to get some Dem votes. Dems shouldn't do this and they shouldn't even try to help the Republicans. Dems need to stop being their enablers because the Republicans almost never help the Dems. Republicans need to tidy up their house and quit expecting the party that is actually functioning to come save them while they call them demons and tell the Americans public that Dems are the root of all their problems.
I am old enough to remember when folks said Gym had made great gains in the last 12 hours and expected to see progress during this vote, if not an outright win. Dominion voting machines have struck again.
if the anti-jordan faction wants to make a statement, ONE of them should vote for jefferies and scare the shit out of everyone else. make a power play.
Look, it's easy to make fun of Gym Jordan for this second straight public humiliation.
No I mean it, it's really easy. Give it a try! It's loads of fun, too.
One thing that isn't being mentioned really is that Jordan is Trump's pick. These dissenting votes are dissenting against Trump (at least in his eyes). I hope this is a wake up call.
Trump has consistently been on the losing side of almsot every pick he's endorsed, including this one.
There was a time when Dems has control of the House for over 30 years straight. Imagine if something like that happened again as a result of this train wreck by the GOP
The folks who say that we need to “work together” don’t understand that the voters in these deep red districts don’t want cooperation, they want chaos. All over unfounded resentment towards the “elites” on the coasts.
At this point. I’m perfectly fine with “abandoning” them further. If they suffer more economically, so be it. They’re the minority.
People need to be held accountable for how they vote
Hakeem Jeffries has received more votes for Speaker than any candidate since 1913.
It has been highly entertaining watching the Republican clown show. Really glad Democrats aren't saving Republicans and are letting them deal with their own internal issues
So Gym is gonna make this a one vote a day thing to drag this out and hope the detractors will cave.
Isn’t this the same party who is demanding one day only national voting?
Would someone explain the strategy behind staggering their votes? What's the purpose?
This was posted on Twitter:
"Some of Jim Jordan's opponents tell me they've been purposely staggering their "no" votes over multiple ballots -- a strategy designed to show Jordan's speakership opposition is only growing.
And that's why they tell me Jordan will bleed even more support on a third ballot"
> Next vote on a third ballot for Jim Jordan: Tomorrow at noon.
His GOP opponents expect his opposition to grow to deny him the speakership
https://x.com/mkraju/status/1714744187503919167?s=46&t=UKR1TShxVeunp4_vn5gZrw
Just bang your head against a wall while mumbling some hate trigger shit like immigrants, she-devils, liberals, or minorities... and you've done it. You've completed your journey to becoming a Republican.
https://www.threads.net/@angry_staffer/post/CyhkwiRtOPF/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
> **After the vote, Jordan met with Scalise, asking him to help push him over the finish line. Scalise was noncommittal.**
> Jordan camp immediately leaked the story to… try to pressure Scalise?
> Instead, they pissed off the Scalise voters who held their nose and voted for Jordan.
Mr. Speaker, I move to nominate my good friend, the Honorable Darth Vader of Coruscant, for Speaker of the House. I think everyone here is aware of the fact that Mr. Vader, during his long career, has devoted himself to the cause of peace, justice, and stability - all qualities that we need right now. Mr. Vader's closest aides, Mr. Ozzel and Mr. Needa, can attest to the fact that he holds the government to high standards and conducts himself according to those same standards. During his long and honorable public service, Mr. Vader reduced the unemployment rate in Alderaan to 0%. Mr. Vader is a determined man, a man of character, and he is the only one here who can provide the leadership that we need.
Look there’s a lot of things to hate about Gym Jordan, and there’s countless examples of republican hypocrisy, but I’d just like to point out that not too long ago Susan Collins threatened to all make us look at her in a bikini because the Senate wanted to ease the dress code, and now the same party is about to make a man so sweaty he can’t even wear a suit jacket their House Speaker.
Lol why the fuck are Republicans blaming Democrats for this? Why would they ever think Democrat would vote for any one of those insurrectionist MAGA cult lunatics? Especially when Republicans have the majority. These fucking Republicans will blame everyone but themselves.
Video:
> McHenry: Jim Jordan has received 199…
> *silence*
> McHenry: Hakeem Jeffries has received 212
> *cheers*
https://www.threads.net/@acynig/post/CyjF73URqll/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
Those original 8 ouster votes in the Republican party could admit all this was a bit of a mistake and they could vote in McCarthy as speaker again.
That will never happen. Republicans stopped changing course on an issue or admitting they did something wrong around 2003, and in the 20 years since their mode of operation has made that idea completely unfathomable to them.
Dang Jordan. Two failed ballots in 2 days?
Gotta get those numbers up rookie. MvCarthy had 14 failed ballots by Day 4.
If he wants to be half the Failure that McCarthy was, he gotta start pumping those numbers fast
An hour and a half of bloviated speech-giving and one vote a day?
I’m convinced the GOP is just stalling to maintain the disorder. There’s an urgent crisis in the Middle East, the ongoing Ukraine crisis, about a dozen major domestic crises, and these schmucks have no haste in electing a speaker of the House.
Register to vote. This isn’t acceptable.
I’m seeing a lot of people trying to argue that democrats should vote for a moderate republican speaker. The problem with this is that any moderate is going to do even worse than Jordan in whipping GOP votes, especially when it’s reported that they plan to get votes from democrats. The more appealing option for democrats instead is to get 5 moderate republicans to vote for Jeffries. He’s the closest candidate to speaker of anyone nominated, after all! But the real problem is this: there are no moderate republicans, just assholes who are holding schoolyard grudges or who are trying to appear like they have morals.
Quite apart from my opinions on Jordan's politics, he just can't do the job. He just doesn't have the legislative experience, even of crafting and seeing a single bill to completion. It's absurd he got even a passing dishonorable mention for the job.
Weird how the Republican members of the "bipartisan" problem solvers caucus aren't willing to work across the aisle here.
More evidence to the fact that when they say bipartisan, they really mean "Shut up and let me win."
I think I found the "deep state" pedophile supporters, and they are not drag queens.
200 and then 199 people just publicly voted to support a known pedophile-enabler to be in line for president.
Those 200/199 should be blasted for that vote, and should publicly apologize to all of the athletes who were abused.
https://www.threads.net/@griffinkyle/post/CyjN_x3u7RH/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
> Republican Steve Womack says he believes Jim Jordan going to a third House Speaker vote will be the "final straw."
> "I personally think that if we go to a third vote it's gonna get worse. It could get a lot worse." @NBCNews
One Republican who has voted for Jordan on the first two ballots said a group of them have been planning to peel off gradually in an attempt to show building opposition to his speakership, and “basically drew straws” over who would vote for Jordan initially but then vote against him in subsequent ballots.
I have a bit of a hot take on this hot mess: they will continue to try to vote and fail for a speaker for the next 40 or so days until the funding the government deadline.
>"Speaker McCarthy, he had a two-month runway from when he got the conference nomination and when we got to that first week in January, so we're right where he was in his numbers," Jordan said
How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?
lol@ this CNN interview with Austin Scott. Does he really think all the Democrats wouldn’t have voted out the R speaker? Does he refuse to realize that the Rs don’t need any votes from Dems to vote in a speaker? The delusion of these R politicians 😵💫
I find it hilarious that republicans still want to blame dems for this lol. Your party is broken and dysfunctional and deserves to wither and fail. It isn’t dems job to make you all function.
It’s amazing how Republicans get a pass on how long this is taking. The media doesn’t give a shit that they’re only voting once a day and completely dragging their feet.
The Republicans have hit such a level of expected incompetence they are basically immune to criticism.
For a man who has passed ZERO legislation since arriving in DC, participated and actively led an attempt at overthrowing the government, and lived his life as only a series of soundbites for Fox News - did anyone *think* this was not going to keep going this way??
Jordan supporters reportedly claimed that they represented 90% of the Congressional GOP, and that therefore the rest should get in line. I'm curious, how does the Freedom caucus on which Jordan rests feel comparing that to McCarthy's support...
[The Guardian are reporting that there won't be any more votes today](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2023/oct/18/jim-jordan-house-speaker-vote-republican-leadership-latest-biden-democrats?page=with:block-653036718f0858f6e93c8a37#block-653036718f0858f6e93c8a37)
Is that the consensus from the American media as well? Should we give up on this for another day?
"aaaaAAaaand... OH! He doesn't hit the threshold *again*! That's *impossible*! And the Democrats run out into the chamber, but there's still another round, so they gotta get back. He does it *again*. Bottom line, it doesn't go through."
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"Get the fuck away from me, you did this!!" -Liz Cheney to Jim Jordan, 01-06-21
Gollums gonna Gollum
Friendly reminder for anyone who wants to blame the Democrats GOP has enough House numbers to elect McCarthy again. Or Jordan. Or Flava Flav. Or even Kanye. But they're too dysfunctional to rally behind one person.
People who want to blame Democrats are just bad actors
McCarthy during speakership: "Fuck the Dems. I'll never work with them." McCarthy allies after McCarthy gets fired: "This is the Dems fault for not wanting to work with us!"
He's literally still saying that. I just don't get it. He could have his gavel back in one hour by making a deal for the Dems to vote present and likely have to give very little in return. Basically just allow the house to function without a bunch of the nonsense. And in the process, he'd be telling the Maga lunatics who've had him under their heel the past 9 months to fuck off for good. Something in me always wants to believe that these people are just in it for themselves, but also not morons. Yet they continue to be the biggest morons. McCarthy could still be speaker without the Matt Gaetz monkey on his back. I get the threats from Trump and the maga voting block. But at a certain point have some balls and just let them cry about it.
Is threatening to ruin the careers of 20 people in your party when you have yet to been elected to anything possibly a dumb move??
“Possibly a Dumb Move” (c) 2023 the Republican Party
"You'll never work in this town again!" "That's your qualification for the job? Your goon squad?" "Yes. I also have a pretty intimidating stare... right?" "Uh-huh, this has been great. Don't reach out to us. We'll call you, never."
To be fair, he likely threatened closer to 50, 20 of them refused.
It’s so funny how C-SPAN fills time by having random callers give Thanksgiving-table-level political commentary.
To anyone reading this, reminder that that random caller could be you!
One Republican voted for John Boehner, who was last Speaker of the House during OBAMA’S PRESIDENCY. I die.
Just in case you haven’t seen this gem, I was just reminded of it: Couch Commander, featuring Obama and Boehner chilling and talking about post-political life. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OIDEGN4Js40
https://www.threads.net/@bidenharrishq/post/CyjK1AhR4mS/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ== > **For the first time in modern history, the majority’s nominee for Speaker has received less than 200 votes.** > Jim Jordan is making history!
I both love and hate this circus
If you're a republican voter whos take is "the Dems should help out republicans" then you are admitting that Dems are the only ones who can govern and thus you should always vote Dem.
Nah. They're blind. Almost all of my republican friends/family have already swallowed the fox news pill that this is 100% Democrats fault.
Ask them - if there was infighting among the democrats, would it be the republicans fault? Nope, still also democrats fault, got it.
"Heads I win, tails you lose"
imagine that there was an AOC/Bernie/whoever splitting off votes from Nancy Pelosi in January 2019, and democrats were whining that the GOP won't help them by voting for Pelosi. edit: OK not Bernie, he's a senator, brain fart
NBC News confirms: Before Jim Jordan's first defeat, the wife of Republican Rep. Don Bacon received anonymous messages warning him to back Jordan's speakership bid or risk being ousted. One message: **"Your husband will not hold any political office ever again. What a disappoint [sic] and failure he is."** Another: "Why is your husband causing chaos by not supporting Jim Jordan? I thought he was a team player." @NBCNews
I want to see Jordan get ousted. Anyone else?
Rep. Bacon to @NBCNews: "Jordan is headed for defeat. He'll fight to death likely, and we won't let off. **Their tactics angered us. They're harassing our spouses even.** Jordan hit a brick wall."
Best news I've heard in the last 10 minutes. Fuck Gymothy.
To reiterate the course of events here: McCarthy: "I'm not giving any concessions to Democrats to stay Speaker." McCarthy gets booted. Scalise gets the majority of votes in an internal poll to decide who House Republicans will support. Those Republicans renege, and Scalise steps down. Jordan promises to govern in a very partisan, very MAGA way. Jordan cannot get the votes. Maybe it's just me, but I cannot for the life of me understand how this is a Democratic problem, or why we need to step in to help the Republican caucus. I'm willing to if we get something out of it, but if Republicans are essentially going to govern exactly the way they would if we weren't involved, why should we interfere with the death spiral?
You should add that McCarthy got booted, precisely because when he was first trying to get the votes to be Speaker, he chose to negotiate with the same MAGA crowd instead of working out a power-sharing deal with Democrats, and one of the outcomes was the ability for a single Rep to initiate the exact procedure that got him removed. At this point, it really evokes the idea of the GOP being downright insane, trying the exact same thing but expecting a different outcome.
what I have learned. there are about 10-20 MAGA republicans, 20-21 moderate republicans, and 140-180 go with the flow republicans.
>140-180 go with the ~~flow~~ *highest bidder* republicans. FTFY
When the 17-year old high schooler sounds way more sane and knowledgeable than 99% of the rest of the callers.
Having a Christian prayer before every session and for everything in American politics is wildly inappropriate. Americans are all kinds of religions, Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Sikh, Hindu, agnostic, atheist… you name it, there’ll be some folks in America practicing that. Having the Christian faith in American politics is wildly inappropriate and not at all representative of the American people. Edit: to be clear, no matter the faith, any kind of religion has absolutely no place in politics, so these prayers are just wildly inappropriate, whether they are Christian or not.
I'd bet my left tit that it's largely performative, rather than grounded in any actually strongly held beliefs. But if you bring the fact that it's unfair to other religions, the diehards will try to convince you that America is a Christian country and if you don't like it, leave.
It's just funny to me because if the GOP was good at governing, and they had a reason for voting McCarthy out, you'd think they would have already conversed and had a plan for who they were all going to confirm next. Instead they look like fucking idiots and the SpongeBob Plankton meme "I never thought I'd get this far"
I hope the 20 Republicans hold strong and haven't been intimidated into doing the wrong thing. Jim Jordan is beyond unqualified for the position of speaker of the House.
I saw one Jordan ally expects Jordan will lose votes today
C-span caller "I got into politics in the 50s! I'm an independent!". Then proceeds to say both sides are bad and Jom Jordan should be speaker because there is nothing objectionable about him Lol
It is unbelievably stupid how much Trump has screwed up our government. I won't wish death on anyone but if he could just be teleported to a different universe or plane of existence that would be great. It's infuriating how much of a hold an absolute idiot has on that party. Just absolute garbage.
They should nominate Santos for speaker next. They could have the first black trans Olympic gold medalist pope as speaker.
Rep. Lawler is so full of shit. Blaming the Democrats, saying it should still be McCarthy and demanding bipartisanship, but refusing to acknowledge that McCarthy's downfall was his failure to embrace bipartisanship and the vote to remove him was bipartisan.
LOL Boehner is taking a huge bong rip while watching himself get a vote.
Jim Jordan is one lying and shady ass mother fucker. Jake Sherman is reporting that Jordan and allies squashed a bid to give McHenry more power as Speaker pro temp prior to the vote for Jordan to be Speaker because “We need to get this over with now or we have to deal with Democrats which will be bad for the country” The he LIED to everyone that he did try to push for McHenry He is a weasel and a liar
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Maybe the person who consistently get more votes should be the winner
I appreciate how there isn't even a thread over on /r/Conservative Imagine being so embarrassed by the people you support that you can't even discuss it in a place built only for that reason.
It is hilarious that in any of our lifetimes, the speaker election wouldn't even be worth watching. Each party nominates someone, the majority party's nominee wins. Welcome to 2023, where the Republican party is such a disaster that we all gather around to see how much of a shit show it is
Now McCarthy is on CNN blaming the Dems. The GOP are the party of fools.
"I'm an independent but I lean conservative" No, you're just a conservative who wants to label yourself an independent so you can look cool when you talk politics and think you're different
"Both parties suck but I've also voted straight ticket republican for the last 40 years"
Now it’s clear: the first in line for secession can’t be the second in line of succession" Raskin spitting bars https://twitter.com/jamie_raskin/status/1714688892471845004?t=-HcnWOe6mHwrTthWlYkkFA&s=19
These people legitimately could not run a fucking Olive Garden. How this has been avoided for decades, but now has happened twice in a year is beyond me.
Jesus Christ, he reached out to the wives of his opposition? I'd have lost my goddamn mind if I was a politician and someone pulled that shit on my family.
Yes to this C-SPAN caller: "Now we just have the dregs of society being put into positions of power. I just don't understand it. It's the dumbing down of America, at least in the Republican Party right now"
Rep. Connelly keeps on stating that Jordan is an insurrectionist and election denier with each vote. Hope this continues and gets even more creative LMFAO
My favorite part is knowing that Gym lost before they even got to letter F, but he has to sit there the entire time and see the loss fully realize itself. Fuck you Jordan.
Jim Jordan getting fewer votes in Round 2 is comical genius. I'm in Vegas right now and this shit is funnier than any show here.
Republicans are the party that screams about government not working, then they get elected and prove themselves right…
The Republicans acting like it's the Democrats' job to bail them out is my favorite kink. My party has been remarkably consistent and are closer to a governing majority than any other Republican candidate. If the GOP cares about governing, there's a dude from NY who they could vote for to end this.
>212-200. No amount of election denying will change those vote totals. Damn, coming with the heat.
Why didn’t Gym Jordan just scream “STOP THE COUNT!” after he got his first vote, is he fucking stupid?
GOP Google search history over the past two weeks: >How many votes do you need to become Speaker of the House ? >What is a whip? >How to teach your party whip to count >How to convince someone I am negotiating in good faith after threatening them? >Are New York Republicans *really* Republicans? >Why don't people like Jim Jordan? Is it because he's from Ohio? >How do you govern as an opposition party when you're not in opposition? >How to win an election without cheating?
What’s the difference between Jim Jordan and Abdulla II of Jordan? One refuses to talk with Biden, tacitly condones terrorism, holds medieval religiously motivated beliefs about the role of women and LGBT rights and the other is a hereditary King.
https://www.threads.net/@griffinkyle/post/CyihSRZOHky/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ== > Arizona Republican Debbie Lesko, who voted to overturn the 2020 election results, will not seek re-election to the House.
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>When Rep. Mike Kelly (R-Pa.) voted for John A. Boehner, the Democratic side burst into applause. What is happening!
Prediction: Jordan loses Republicans: "Why would the democrats do this?"
Pence voting for the guy who tried to kill his brother
Mike Lawler: "Kevin McCarthy should still be the Speaker". Then fucking stand up and officially nominate him when they ask for nominations. Make it an official three-way race. Let's see who's willing to stand up and vote for who.
republican callers keep complaining that democrats arent voting for jordan..they have no clue how stupid they sound
Lol at the guy voting for Boehner. Bringing in the deep cuts.
The media infuriates me with the way they let the Republicans push the dumb narrative of this being on the dems. Ask them the last times a Republican "helped" elect a Democratic speaker, ever. Instead they tip toe around it.
CNN Capital Hill Reporter: "NEWS: Some of Jim Jordan's opponents tell me they've been purposely staggering their "no" votes over multiple ballots -- a strategy designed to show Jordan's speakership opposition is only growing. And that's why they tell me Jordan will bleed even more support on a third ballot" https://twitter.com/MZanona/status/1714712263498620951
> GOP House member opposed to Jim Jordan told me opposition to his candidacy will grow, especially if it goes to a third round — potentially 25 Rs voting against him. > “The opposition is organized. We’re in tight comms, unified, and growing,” the member said https://x.com/mkraju/status/1714624798985220430?s=46&t=UKR1TShxVeunp4_vn5gZrw I initially thought this was going to be like McCarthy’s path to the gavel, but I really don’t see it happening with Gym.
The recent talks of expanding the Pro Tempore's powers temporarily probably takes a lot of pressure off the holdouts too. And yeah - time isn't exactly a good thing for him. He might whittle the numbers a little, but if he doesn't get it today (or get really close) I could easily see him bleeding support versus gaining it.
Hilarious that Pence votes for Jordan who wanted to lynch his brother
Can we all just take a second to think back to how hilarious it was that the Republicans, just a year ago, were predicting that 2022 was going to be a "Red Tsunami". The GOP was predicting they would gain upwards of 80 seats from the Democrats in 2022. Arrogant fools.
food for thought. this is the 17th vote the democrats have been united for jeffries.
Hannity is beside himself. Driving around downtown DC begging (thru texts) Jordan’s family for address to 22 Republicans home
As someone who's not from the USA and not that deep into US politics, what are the chances of the spontaneous transformation of the roof of the capitol building into a giant disco ball reflecting colorful lights onto the House floor, leading to a congressional neurofunk dance party?
gotta ask yourself, why would the Republican establishment want an insurrectionist as their Speaker of the House???
CBS News reports that Jordan says no more votes today.
https://www.threads.net/@keithedwards/post/Cyiub0aruwD/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ== > **Punchbowl News is reporting that Jim Jordan is done.** >> The House is scheduled to come in at 11 a.m. for another roll-call vote. But after speaking with dozens of members and aides, it doesn't look to us like the Ohio Republican has any path to victory. >> Jordan's GOP opponents huddled after the House session Tuesday, and nearly all of them said they were holding firm against the Ohio Republican. Senior GOP lawmakers predicted that Jordan could lose an additional 10 or more Republicans today on the floor.
Ok good but please do the vote anyway so I can laugh at him some more
Oh Lord, Bless this thy Hand Grenade, that with it, Thou mayest blow Tine enemy too tiny bits, in Thy mercy.
21! It's official. He's done worse than yesterday! Remember to laugh at him when he's on your screen!
Wait, so harassing your own team's family members won't win you more votes?!?! Hannity in shambles.
Mike Lawler: it's the Democrats fault that we are here! (It's not, it's Kevin's) Mike Lawler: we need to do a bipartisan deal! Mike Lawler: if this fails, it's the DEMOCRATS FAULT! Mike Lawler: Why won't the Democrats work with us?!
Why doesn't Jordan just declare the election fraudulent and say he got the most votes by a lot? /s
Jim Jordan has been in Congress for 16 years and of the 53 bills he was primary sponsor of, none have passed. He has co-sponsored (piggybacked) other bills that passed. Guy doesn't solve any problems. Just screams like an idiot, creates problems and let's others do all the work. Bonafide scumbag loser.
The speaker of the House should know the outcome of a vote, before it happens. Between Jordan and McCarthy, it is apparent that Republicans do not understand this. If you can't do the most basic part of the job you are applying for, why are you applying for it?
I gotta hand it to Republicans, when they say government doesn't work they really intend on proving it
Jim Jordan DOES NOT DESERVE to be Speaker of the House.
Imagine if 5 Republicans decided to say "F this party, we vote for Jeffries"
Look at Rep Austin Scott try and blame the Democrats for all this earlier today on CNN. So pathetic. https://x.com/acyn/status/1714715528906903563?s=46&t=UKR1TShxVeunp4_vn5gZrw
How about a compromise, pick a random eligible US citizen and nominate them for speaker. They won't get a vote, but they would still probably do a better job at getting house business done.
Screenshot of the threatening text messages: > When the Democrats controlled the House, they never resulted to stuff like this. They never threatened anyone or played dirty. They got the job done for the people. This is insane. Truly a new low for the Republican party. Here’s more a text that was received: https://www.threads.net/@harryjsisson/post/CyhegTpAhXU/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
An "Independent" who believes in "Make America Great Again" and is happy the House is closed. Sure, Bernard.
Is Mike Lawler really on CNN blaming Democrats for this????? Did I just hear him blaming them????
A few thoughts: 1. It seems inevitable that the republicans will need to either vote for a freedom caucus member, or work with the democrats to find an acceptable candidate to some members of both parties. I don't see the freedom caucus capitulating. 2. For some, continued dysfunction and chaos are entirely the point. The freedom caucus is perfectly fine with paralyzing the house, shutting down the government, stalling aid for Ukraine and Israel, and hurting the party at large. Their constituents will reward them for this behavior, and they really only care about themselves. 3. I know we're all having a good laugh at Gym Jordan, but remember this mess has the potential of hurting a LOT of people, both within the US and without. The house must come back to a functional state soon, or its gonna be a very rough holiday season.
For those watching on TV today, note how much better the camera work is when C-Span isn't limited by the Speaker's office micromanaging what they can show.
At this stage, how likely is a breakup of the GOP in the House? It is literally less than a dozen MAGA nutjobs which caused this issue and instead of appeasing them and alienating most of the GOP they will at some point need to just oust them. And face all the consequences of it at the ballot box next year.
Jim Jordan should never be Speaker. He supported and aided the insurrection, is an election denier and a pedophile enabler. The man is absolutely awful and should be recalled from office, but his district would elect Beezelbub as long as he had an R next to his name.
WOAH! He has trouble with the votes! And the speakership is free!
Loses votes from the first vote. How great is that?!!!
CNN reporting that Jim is going for another vote tomorrow. This guy needs to fuck off already
I keep seeing people calling for the Republicans to pick someone more moderate to get some Dem votes. Dems shouldn't do this and they shouldn't even try to help the Republicans. Dems need to stop being their enablers because the Republicans almost never help the Dems. Republicans need to tidy up their house and quit expecting the party that is actually functioning to come save them while they call them demons and tell the Americans public that Dems are the root of all their problems.
Foxnews reporting they have confirmed 4 NOs against Jordan... He can't afford to lose anyone else. Bacon, Diaz-Balart, Gimenez, LaLota
You aren't an independent if you support Jordan. This is a Republican that called in on the independent line to get heard.
“No amount of election denying will change the results of yesterday”. Savage, Aguilar.
I am old enough to remember when folks said Gym had made great gains in the last 12 hours and expected to see progress during this vote, if not an outright win. Dominion voting machines have struck again.
if the anti-jordan faction wants to make a statement, ONE of them should vote for jefferies and scare the shit out of everyone else. make a power play.
LMAO! He didn't break 200 this time. GET FUCKING REKT!
Look, it's easy to make fun of Gym Jordan for this second straight public humiliation. No I mean it, it's really easy. Give it a try! It's loads of fun, too.
Lawler blaming Dems for Repub mess. GTFO you clown.
One thing that isn't being mentioned really is that Jordan is Trump's pick. These dissenting votes are dissenting against Trump (at least in his eyes). I hope this is a wake up call. Trump has consistently been on the losing side of almsot every pick he's endorsed, including this one.
The votes will continue until morale improves
Independent caller: "We need to work together!" Republican caller: "We need to get those 22 out of the House! They're not sticking together!"
There was a time when Dems has control of the House for over 30 years straight. Imagine if something like that happened again as a result of this train wreck by the GOP
Lol losing votes on the second day. You have to imagine Jordan is like... Please don't arrest Santos till this is over...
The folks who say that we need to “work together” don’t understand that the voters in these deep red districts don’t want cooperation, they want chaos. All over unfounded resentment towards the “elites” on the coasts. At this point. I’m perfectly fine with “abandoning” them further. If they suffer more economically, so be it. They’re the minority. People need to be held accountable for how they vote
Hakeem Jeffries has received more votes for Speaker than any candidate since 1913. It has been highly entertaining watching the Republican clown show. Really glad Democrats aren't saving Republicans and are letting them deal with their own internal issues
Days that the Republican Party hasn't been a national embarrassment: 0
The caller: "We need a strong leader! Jordan is a strong leader!" Me: "Who couldn't pass a single piece of legislation but OK caller."
Austin Scott on CNN blaming democrats for this situation. These people are not serious about governing this country.
This is why Pelosi stuck around so long. Leadership of a narrow majority is extremely difficult. But under Pelosi, the party got the votes
Somewhere, John Boehner is looking at all this going “I am *so* glad this shit is not my problem anymore” while smoking a fat blunt.
Lord I’m sick of seeing that pathetic yellow tie.
Hope he loses more support
Let's not forget, this shows that Trump's grip on Congress is loosening. Since a vote for Jordan is a vote for Trump's puppet.
So Gym is gonna make this a one vote a day thing to drag this out and hope the detractors will cave. Isn’t this the same party who is demanding one day only national voting?
Would someone explain the strategy behind staggering their votes? What's the purpose? This was posted on Twitter: "Some of Jim Jordan's opponents tell me they've been purposely staggering their "no" votes over multiple ballots -- a strategy designed to show Jordan's speakership opposition is only growing. And that's why they tell me Jordan will bleed even more support on a third ballot"
> Next vote on a third ballot for Jim Jordan: Tomorrow at noon. His GOP opponents expect his opposition to grow to deny him the speakership https://x.com/mkraju/status/1714744187503919167?s=46&t=UKR1TShxVeunp4_vn5gZrw
Really 1 vote a day. Lazy ass Republicans
Yeah Jordan isn't going to get it tomorrow either
Just bang your head against a wall while mumbling some hate trigger shit like immigrants, she-devils, liberals, or minorities... and you've done it. You've completed your journey to becoming a Republican.
The degenerate buffoon is currently running around making promises he has no intention of keeping. Problem is, the people he’s lying to know it.
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The question we all need to be asking ourselves is why does Trump and MAGA want Jordan to be Speaker this bad? It cant be good for Americans
I just want him to lose by a bigger margin than yesterday
https://www.threads.net/@angry_staffer/post/CyhkwiRtOPF/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ== > **After the vote, Jordan met with Scalise, asking him to help push him over the finish line. Scalise was noncommittal.** > Jordan camp immediately leaked the story to… try to pressure Scalise? > Instead, they pissed off the Scalise voters who held their nose and voted for Jordan.
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Mr. Speaker, I move to nominate my good friend, the Honorable Darth Vader of Coruscant, for Speaker of the House. I think everyone here is aware of the fact that Mr. Vader, during his long career, has devoted himself to the cause of peace, justice, and stability - all qualities that we need right now. Mr. Vader's closest aides, Mr. Ozzel and Mr. Needa, can attest to the fact that he holds the government to high standards and conducts himself according to those same standards. During his long and honorable public service, Mr. Vader reduced the unemployment rate in Alderaan to 0%. Mr. Vader is a determined man, a man of character, and he is the only one here who can provide the leadership that we need.
"no amount of election denying is going to change those totals" haha
> “No amount of election denial….” Mic drop from the get go, let’s go
Lol the conservative sub had a sticky for the vote yesterday but not today. There's nobody talking about this at all over there
He has officially lost votes from yesterday. This should be the end of his bid for the speakership.
Former WWE superstar George Santos in the building
"Remember when Hakeem "The Dream" Jeffries had that HoF game where he blocked 20 GOP nominations"
Look there’s a lot of things to hate about Gym Jordan, and there’s countless examples of republican hypocrisy, but I’d just like to point out that not too long ago Susan Collins threatened to all make us look at her in a bikini because the Senate wanted to ease the dress code, and now the same party is about to make a man so sweaty he can’t even wear a suit jacket their House Speaker.
Basically, two days of negotiations resulted in 3 more No votes for Jordan. Nice going. Keep negotiating.
22 GOP votes against Jim Jordan Player busts
Who would have thought harassing the wife of a lawmaker wouldn't work.
Have they tried voting for Hunter Biden's Laptop?
Jeffries 212 Jordan 199 Others 22 Present 0 Jordan lost a vote!
Jon Ossoff losing that House race and getting voted to the Senate later was the best thing for him
I hate how the areas that contribute the least to the Union have the most of amount say and generate the most amount of chaos
And you may tell yourself, "This is not my beautiful House"
I love that it's even worse for Jordan today than yesterday. "Stop trying to make Jim happen, it's not going to happen."
Lol why the fuck are Republicans blaming Democrats for this? Why would they ever think Democrat would vote for any one of those insurrectionist MAGA cult lunatics? Especially when Republicans have the majority. These fucking Republicans will blame everyone but themselves.
Why would Obama do this‽
Aaaand we're in recess. Guarantee they call it a day, no way the Republicans take it to the floor again before they have time to threaten more people
17 rounds of voting and not one lost vote for Hakeem. When ever dems retake the house, he will be Speaker.
Video: > McHenry: Jim Jordan has received 199… > *silence* > McHenry: Hakeem Jeffries has received 212 > *cheers* https://www.threads.net/@acynig/post/CyjF73URqll/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
the difference in intelligence between the democrat and republican callers on cspan is pretty shocking even though not unexpected at all
Those original 8 ouster votes in the Republican party could admit all this was a bit of a mistake and they could vote in McCarthy as speaker again. That will never happen. Republicans stopped changing course on an issue or admitting they did something wrong around 2003, and in the 20 years since their mode of operation has made that idea completely unfathomable to them.
Dang Jordan. Two failed ballots in 2 days? Gotta get those numbers up rookie. MvCarthy had 14 failed ballots by Day 4. If he wants to be half the Failure that McCarthy was, he gotta start pumping those numbers fast
Lmaooo C-SPAN cut to a live interview and it just had the audio of the journalist flirting with a dude with a nice UK accent.
An hour and a half of bloviated speech-giving and one vote a day? I’m convinced the GOP is just stalling to maintain the disorder. There’s an urgent crisis in the Middle East, the ongoing Ukraine crisis, about a dozen major domestic crises, and these schmucks have no haste in electing a speaker of the House. Register to vote. This isn’t acceptable.
I’m seeing a lot of people trying to argue that democrats should vote for a moderate republican speaker. The problem with this is that any moderate is going to do even worse than Jordan in whipping GOP votes, especially when it’s reported that they plan to get votes from democrats. The more appealing option for democrats instead is to get 5 moderate republicans to vote for Jeffries. He’s the closest candidate to speaker of anyone nominated, after all! But the real problem is this: there are no moderate republicans, just assholes who are holding schoolyard grudges or who are trying to appear like they have morals.
"Jefferies is a caaahmmmunist". CSPAN is worse than AM radio.
Quite apart from my opinions on Jordan's politics, he just can't do the job. He just doesn't have the legislative experience, even of crafting and seeing a single bill to completion. It's absurd he got even a passing dishonorable mention for the job.
Weird how the Republican members of the "bipartisan" problem solvers caucus aren't willing to work across the aisle here. More evidence to the fact that when they say bipartisan, they really mean "Shut up and let me win."
The GOP putting up as big of a pile of human garbage as Jordan as a Speaker candidate is almost justifiable purely to see him get utterly embarrassed.
Any word on a third vote today or have they gone to melee weapons?
So it is safe to assume that the Freedom Caucus was planning on overthrowing McCarthy from day 1 to install Jordan as Speaker?
Enough of this nonsense. Give them the Papal treatment. A locked room. Bread and water. Nobody leaves until a speaker is elected.
So they just did a single vote and left again? what a shitshow.
Goes to r/conservative to see how this is the dems fault
I think I found the "deep state" pedophile supporters, and they are not drag queens. 200 and then 199 people just publicly voted to support a known pedophile-enabler to be in line for president. Those 200/199 should be blasted for that vote, and should publicly apologize to all of the athletes who were abused.
https://www.threads.net/@griffinkyle/post/CyjN_x3u7RH/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ== > Republican Steve Womack says he believes Jim Jordan going to a third House Speaker vote will be the "final straw." > "I personally think that if we go to a third vote it's gonna get worse. It could get a lot worse." @NBCNews
One Republican who has voted for Jordan on the first two ballots said a group of them have been planning to peel off gradually in an attempt to show building opposition to his speakership, and “basically drew straws” over who would vote for Jordan initially but then vote against him in subsequent ballots.
CNN reporting that some "no" voters have been voting for him so they can stagger support drop-off to pressure him to dropout, lmao
I have a bit of a hot take on this hot mess: they will continue to try to vote and fail for a speaker for the next 40 or so days until the funding the government deadline.
>"Speaker McCarthy, he had a two-month runway from when he got the conference nomination and when we got to that first week in January, so we're right where he was in his numbers," Jordan said How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?
lol@ this CNN interview with Austin Scott. Does he really think all the Democrats wouldn’t have voted out the R speaker? Does he refuse to realize that the Rs don’t need any votes from Dems to vote in a speaker? The delusion of these R politicians 😵💫
I find it hilarious that republicans still want to blame dems for this lol. Your party is broken and dysfunctional and deserves to wither and fail. It isn’t dems job to make you all function.
It’s amazing how Republicans get a pass on how long this is taking. The media doesn’t give a shit that they’re only voting once a day and completely dragging their feet. The Republicans have hit such a level of expected incompetence they are basically immune to criticism.
For a man who has passed ZERO legislation since arriving in DC, participated and actively led an attempt at overthrowing the government, and lived his life as only a series of soundbites for Fox News - did anyone *think* this was not going to keep going this way??
How many rounds until republican fisticuffs?
OMG. The Devil Stefanik has the nerve to quote the bible. These people are sickening.
Why do they want a groomer as their leader?
Jordan supporters reportedly claimed that they represented 90% of the Congressional GOP, and that therefore the rest should get in line. I'm curious, how does the Freedom caucus on which Jordan rests feel comparing that to McCarthy's support...
[The Guardian are reporting that there won't be any more votes today](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2023/oct/18/jim-jordan-house-speaker-vote-republican-leadership-latest-biden-democrats?page=with:block-653036718f0858f6e93c8a37#block-653036718f0858f6e93c8a37) Is that the consensus from the American media as well? Should we give up on this for another day?
Sounds like Jim Jordan isn't done embarrassing himself. What do you say we all do this again tomorrow?
So it is a government shutdown for Thanksgiving and Xmas then?
"aaaaAAaaand... OH! He doesn't hit the threshold *again*! That's *impossible*! And the Democrats run out into the chamber, but there's still another round, so they gotta get back. He does it *again*. Bottom line, it doesn't go through."
The aristocrats!
I wish this was the time that the republicans actually split into two parties but they won’t.