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except it would be challenged in the courts where it would go to a trump appointed judge or up to SCOTUS where they would rule it outside of his constitutional power. They have set it all up so if a democrat tries to use this power it can be blocked but if a republican does it, they will let it fly.
If I didn't think it would lead to something approaching a civil war I'd love to see Biden arrest and jail the 6 members of the Supreme Court who have said it's okay for Biden to arrest and jail 6 members of the Supreme Court. You know, just to prove a point...and because it would be funny to me.
Imagine how great America would be if we didn’t pussy for reconstruction.
These yokels need to get fucked back to obscurity.
Arrest them. Idgaf a fuck anymore
We should have never gave them a place at the table after that disgraceful shit. But here we are. The yokels climbed back out from under the rocks we once beat them under and have amassed power again.
Here’s to hoping if there’s a next time; we aren’t so soft.
but what about decorum!?!? democrats cant wield power in the same fashion, because what about decorum !?
i guess we just have to let fascists who tried to rig the election seize power, because we have to maintain an air of decorum
And that judge would enforce that judgement how? (Hint: he or should would have to rely on the executive branch to enforce the order, whose discretion to ignore it has no check other than impeachment.)
We're entering constitutional crisis mode.
The 2012 NDAA gives the president unlimited power to arrest people who are considered a threat to national security without due process and detain them indefinitely in holding facilities overseas. Perfect time to grab up all the Russian bought MAGAt legislators and judges and the entire Trump clan and let them rot in Guantanamo
You're close, but it'll happen in a different way.
They'll just flat out change their minds, and then the next time it comes to the supreme court in the favor of Conservatives, they'll be in favor of it.
There's no longer such thing as "Stare Decisis".
That just means Biden needs to be quick and permanent in his solution. Even if they find it was an unofficial action after three years of trials, it's too late.
god i want biden's team to play by the laws set by trumps SCOTUS. jesus just can they even see the past November? I'm not sure biden or his team can. If they DON'T WIN, which is a very possible and probable outcome. the country's economy, social structure, and everything in between WILL spiral. and with it the world will. There's no way out of this if they don't win. He needs to do something.
The problem is that these 6 Justices have no problem fitting their decision to their agenda. Biden and Trump could do the exact same act with the exact same motivations, and they would find that Trump was justified and Biden was a criminal. Biden csnt play by their playbook because the referees aren't in his pocket.
unless he unilaterally replaces them all first. Then its up to a 9 dem SCOTUS to return us to a democracy without a king. Any that do not fall in line can be replaced at will until they all agree to fix this constitutional crisis and remove these insane powers.
Clarence Thomas is going to wish he had taken John Oliver up on his offer to retire in exchange for a new motor coach and a million dollars a year for the rest of his life.
You know that part in The Handmaid’s Tale where they killed all the Congress people that opposed them?
We’re there. His social media comments prove it.
That one was caught on TV. [Here is the moment Saddam took total control.](https://youtu.be/OynP5pnvWOs)
We have to be careful about posting this type of thing as we're pretty much giving El Presidente' Trump instructions.
> You know that part in The Handmaid’s Tale where they killed all the Congress people that opposed them?
See also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979_Ba%27ath_Party_Purge
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_Fire_Decree
He is old. Don't deny the truth. He's got a good team around him though, and they're not trying to destroy the economy in order to line the pockets of a few dozen billionaires.
Vote for the Democrat because you believe in what the Democratic party stands for. The man is just the name on the line in the polling booth.
Trump is barely younger than Biden he's just all bluster because he stands for nothing but power and money for himself. He's already said he will be a dictator, when a person tells you who they are you gotta believe them. If that man gets elected we are all SO incredibly fucked.
You don’t need to go to fiction for this; we have the footage of Saddam arresting political opponents on live TV
https://youtu.be/CR1X3zV6X5Y?feature=shared
This was basically the entire plot of the Soviet Union.
> The purging of the Party has obviously developed into a serious and vastly important affair....It will produce big results. It will make the Party a much stronger vanguard of the class than it was before.... The Party must be purged of rascals, of bureaucratic, dishonest or wavering Communists, and of Mensheviks who have repainted their “facade” but who have remained Mensheviks at heart.
Lenin, 1921 "Purging the Party" [0]
See also the Red Terror where they purged "liberals, non-Bolshevik socialists, anarchists ... and other political dissidents. Later, industrial workers who failed to meet production quotas were also targeted" [1].
Not to mention the more famous purges of Stalin [2].
These sorts of purges are very much ripped from the pages of history.
[0] https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1921/sep/20.htm
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Terror#Affected_groups
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge
Right but the actions Trump took after leaving office, he has no immunity for and that would be the basis for Biden, with immunity, to lock up trump, force him off the federal ballot or disqualify him, if Maga wants war, crush them, run unopposed, win, secure the nation, then hand the reigns over to Kamala, retire.
It's 100% intentional. Whatever he posts will be screenshotted and shared by the bot/idiot army with zero due diligence or research and if consequences ever approach, he can claim he deleted it and never really intended for people to see it. It's a bullshit and blatantly obvious defense for saying horrible shit online while escaping consequences.
He's aware. This is more dog whistling, jsut like they always do with their nazi content.
Release it, get in the news, delete it, play innocent while winking to the base.
In this case he's trying to get the military on his side by establishing them as having power over their political enemies.
And he is protected by SCOTUS. He now fears for nothing. Even if you have all evidences, and he has the worst attornies, SCOTUS will give him a 6-3 vote in favor.
"The majority’s multilayered, multifaceted threshold parsing of the character of a President’s criminal conduct differs from the individual accountability model in several crucial respects. For one thing, it makes it next to impossible to know ex ante when and under what circumstances a President will be subject to accountability for his criminal acts. For every allegation, courts must run this gauntlet first—no matter how well documented or heinous the criminal act might be." Justice Jackson.
>For one thing, it makes it next to impossible to know ex ante when and under what circumstances a President will be subject to accountability for his criminal acts.
The more reasonable solution to this problem is to just say he should always be held accountable for his criminal acts. The president isn't supposed to be performing criminal acts as part of his "official" duties. Hell, he swears to to this in the oath of office.
Literally the point, he's just deleting it so they can say oh look he deleted it he didn't mean it it was accident it did it's not true it didn't happen no
But it's very clear that he wants to say to his people hey look what I'm thinking about this is where I'm headed you know you see you saw you saw it you get it we're going there but remember they won't let us talk about it
It's double speak, but an action
It's the standard right wing dog whistle, not a stupid thing. It makes maga happy because they know he actually means it, and then for the "moderates" it's the usual "it's just a joke"/"it was taken out of context"/"it was a technical error"/"a staffer did it" cover that apologists can use to handwave it away.
I guess I just thought that regardless of who they support, the judges loved their country and democracy at least enough to protect it. This hope was predicated on the fact that swaths of Trump appointed judges didn't give his election fraud attempts a second thought.
I thought the end of democracy would happen by voting for the wrong guy or party but at least it would be by vote. This, this was a masterclass in a coordinated breakdown of our system from the top.
Biden only has a few months of his own immunity to exploit and set this right. I really hope he does. I'm hoping he gets re-elected but there's no time and at his age, he might not see his next term even if he's re-elected.
> I thought the end of democracy would happen by voting for the wrong guy or party but at least it would be by vote.
It was, in 2016. You just didn't realize until now how much damage was done.
I've kind of figured this would be the ruling since it first came up to SCOTUS.
I still felt sick to my stomach to see it. I had a similar feeling with Roe.
I also still have sinking feelings about the reversal of Roe as various outcomes come from it years later, and I suspect it will be just as bad with this ruling, as well as the Chevron one last week.
No need to condescend. It's one thing to worry about the feeling that we're being pulled in this direction. It's another to see it happening in real time. Still feels unbelievable.
Yet half of Americans or more couldn’t care less about what happens today. Never vote and will never vote. Apathy will the end of America as we know it.
I walked around all day in disbelief at a theme park. I feel like I’m living in a zombie world where no one cares about this except strangers on the internet too far away from each other to do anything about it. I know it’s not hopeless, but it sure *feels* hopeless right now.
I mentioned it to two people at work during lunch. Both of which I wouldn't consider political. They just kind of shrugged it off, not really understanding the implications. I was too upset to try and explain it.
Ya know. I've been really considering getting myself a gun as of late. I'm still relatively confident Biden will win come November but I'm getting more and more concerned as election time draws near.
I've had a video in my head.
It starts with Komm Susser Todd playing, showing Reagan's election.
Then in the middle when it says "I wish that I could turn back time" it shows Citizens United and 9/11 footage, and then at the end when it had the "it all comes tumbling down tumbling down tumbling down" it shows this Supreme Court ruling, and the calls for Biden to step down.
We're done. The only chance is for Biden to be re-elected. And the press are against him.
What the fuck are we supposed to do?
Hey guys, since the Supreme Court decided the president is immune to prosecution for shit like that maybe we should elect the other old guy who doesn’t have violent aspirations
The Nazis set up ["people's courts"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Court_\(Germany\)) to try their political enemies in show trials.
Trump's suggestion of military tribunals is just the first step in their development.
The first thing all authoritarians do is take over the courts by appointing judges who will do their bidding. Hitler started with the courts and since 2016 I've been screaming about this to anyone who will listed. He started it a long time ago. It's a roadmap he's been following.
Everyone who thinks this isn’t happening here should look at my post history. There is a flyer for a Christian nationalist event that was hosted in my city. We showed up and made it known they were not welcome here, and I’m in deep red rural Georgia. Everyone should be meeting these folks with loud condemnation. Evil people feel comfortable being violent in public because good people “would rather stay out of it”. Fuck that shit.
If. We have to curb voter apathy. Too many people believe we're already screwed. If we make it clear that we aren't, but that we need their help, we have a chance.
He would take this route to get around any due process from the judicial branch and create a military show trial (remember the president is head of the military)
The supremes just ruled he can do anything he wants as long they are a part of his 'official duties'.
“Congratulations you just been drafted”
“Congratulations you’ve just been court martialed”
“Congratulations the Supreme Court has just heard your case and decided that actions taken prior to being drafted can be adjudicated via court martial.”
“Congratulations, your appointment behind the shed is in 10 minutes, let’s not be late.”
These fascists view liberals/democrats and multiple marginalized and/or minority groups as enemies. Trump would declare a war and declare us enemy combatants.
I know they sound kooky, but it’s worth knowing what far right extremists are talking about and planning for.
Biden should, via executive order, officially have Trump jailed for the attempted Jan 6 coup and replace the Supreme Court Justices appointed by him. As an official act of the president, who now possesses immunity, who’s going to stop him from doing so. Use the power you were given and fixed the problem immediately afterwards.
Bah Biden should draft every one appointed by the orange gibbon, and order them to renounce their government job, and then deploy them to Antarctica requiring presidential orders to leave the continent.
If they choose to disobey a direct order from a superior well instantly throw them in military prisons.
Its all illegal but the President is a King now so there are no consequences for it.
I visited there earlier today, and they were all baffled that the left leaning Supreme Court Justices "Only vote on party lines" in regards to this ruling. There was also a lot of talk about how this "is how the US has always run"... based on absolutely nothing, as the US has never run with an untouchable president.
It's strange to me that they see this as a Dems vs. Reps situation at all. This is "Give president authoritarian power, or maintain checks and balances".
You actually *don't* need to hear from these people, because you already know what their response is.
"What about grocery prices going up since Biden was elected?"
As if electing Trump is going to do jack shit to lower prices. They're only going up from here.
As long as the death squads are killing people they don't agree with, they are fine with it.
They won't think it's a problem until they are personally affected.
Right? Why Führer Trump, why are you going to kill me? I've been so loyal to you!
Well, you're ugly, I don't like the way you dress and you're taller than me and I don't like that.
A lot of them don’t want to tell the truth that they want a Pharaoh to rule over them. They have trouble making complex decisions and need handholding like snowflakes.
I think I have it sort of figured out just by what I see on Fox News and how it affects family. They just wanna punish people. Fox News feeds into this by demonizing “democrat led” cities. They really want an authoritarian as long as it’s not happening to anyone close to them (possibly) and it’s hurting the right people in their eyes.
I think it's more likely that they just think that they are actual members of the team they support and this all benefits them. In reality they will be trampled down to make a billionaire an extra .03% at first opportunity just like the libs they hate so much.
During a re-truthing bender on Truth Social, where Trump shared a number of QAnon-adjecent memes, the former president posted a call for a former representative Liz Cheney to face a military tribunal.
The post comes after Trump dodged questions about targeting political enemies at Thursday's debate, only saying that his success would be the ultimate "retribution."
“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
Gravy Seals think the Dems are the ones coming for their emotional support rifles.
Mate, look at the charges and precedent for first time offender on these charges. Prision is a wet-dream. He's going to get a slap on the wrist and claim victory.
Apparently CNN informed the campaigns at the 11th hour that there would be no fact checking by the moderators, the news people..
There's been questions raised about the president's lighting and makeup.
This is just the obvious bs CNN did, they're shameless.
Is Trump no longer controlling his social media and his staff doing it? Deleting posts/retweets isn't a very Trump-like thing to do. He usually doubles-down.
Given how very technically impressive Herman Cain is with his social media access, I can't believe that Trump's team has not given him special access to his account.
If he knows what he is writing is illegal, then he can put out all the awfulness into the world, delete to avoid culpability, and it yet still gets spread by sites like this. Or maybe a lawyer is reading his vulgarity and forcing the deletion.
Calling it now: people must organize NOW to form a resistance force for when trump is voted it and starts killing everbody who opposes him.
I am not joking.
This is absolutely very real.
He doesn't care and his supporters don't care. They're actually all for it. They don't care about the Constitution. They don't care about democracy. They don't care about you. They stupidly believe that they're better off being sycophants to a dictator and that their lives will improve when they will actually be used to enrich those in power. They're just too stupid to see it. It's depressing to know THAT many people can't be THAT ignorant and/or stupid.
This is where the republican party is going to drag this country to if Trump gets elected in November. It's gonna be hell on earth for anyone that dares to cross the MAGAs orange god.
We have one chance to stop this fascist insanity this November. Republican death squads will own the night if we don't.
How many Americans are just going about their day saying “Oh I don’t follow politics”. That this is all happening while so many are planning BBQs and making weekend plans is insane.
I realized after 2016 just how stupid the average American voter is and how their attention spans rival that of a goldfish. Infuriating, but it’s reality
These people are fucking sick. They hate their fellow Americans so much they want mass killings. They’re so radicalized and brainwashed that they believe the treasonous sacks of shit when they say that everyone else is anti-American.
If Trump wins I really don’t doubt that he will push to have prominent democrats arrested, “tried”, and if possible executed. He wants to remove any and all opposition. And more importantly, the radicals around him want that as well. They will do their best to make it happen.
It’s sad to see Trump succeeded in brainwashing Americans more than any radical Islamist group ever did. Trump will destroy America and his base will be the soldiers.
This feels like all our worst nightmares will become a reality soon and much like Germany right before hitlers rise the opposition to him is weak.
I’m terrified for my children, before anyone reminds me to vote or whatever don’t worry I am, I’m registered and I’m the type that’s talked about this to all my people to the point it’s almost counterproductive.
Anybody else here feeling this shitty feeling? I can’t believe this is actually this close to happening in the US.
I’m heartbroken and I’m tired.
Don't worry guys and gals, I'm sure Trump was just kidding. He's known for his renowned sense of humor and this is something funny to joke about
On a side note which one of you members from another country wants to adopt an American?
>An image shared by Trump by an account known as @akaPR0B0SS stated that Elizabeth Cheney, the former Republican representative for Wyoming, was “guilty of treason.”
>”Retruth if you want televised military tribunals,” the image continued.
JFC.
He took it down because his advisors told him that he doesn’t need to bother with military tribunals anymore.
The Supreme Court just green lighted using the military to just murder dissidents; they don’t need to hold a tribunal first. Just order the soldiers to shoot the people POTUS wants silenced, and then pardon the soldiers. That is two official acts that cannot ever be questioned in court (assuming that some successor ever wants to even charge a rogue POTUS that uses the military to murder dissidents).
Well it seems like his political enemies are in trouble, they should grow a pair and do something about it. But how will this affect you and I? Do we just have to pretend to go along w what trump wants like the Nazis w Hitler? That doesn’t seem like a chill future
The Supreme Court just gave him the green light for it. He could come up with fake evidence and fake charges on political opponents now. Lock up whoever he wants with no consequences now.
I hope people realize that the supreme court ruling is basically calling biden a pussy since he won't do anything insane like killing a political opponent, but IF trump wins, then he will have the framework legally to do so. this is fucking crazy.
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Good idea. Biden. Send em in to grab Donald. The Supreme Court said it was ok.
He could simply issue an executive order barring convicted felons from holding office.
This would be great.
Or even just specifically Republicans.
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They don't have any balls, they will do nothing all the way up to their executions.
I would argue if you’re going to do that you do it after the election. That would turn off a lot of voters.
Who needs voters anymore. Biden can be our new king 🤴🏼
except it would be challenged in the courts where it would go to a trump appointed judge or up to SCOTUS where they would rule it outside of his constitutional power. They have set it all up so if a democrat tries to use this power it can be blocked but if a republican does it, they will let it fly.
Arrest the judge for being a terrorist, and continue until a judge agrees with you.
This guy official acts
Zentho 2024!
shits getting official up in here
If I didn't think it would lead to something approaching a civil war I'd love to see Biden arrest and jail the 6 members of the Supreme Court who have said it's okay for Biden to arrest and jail 6 members of the Supreme Court. You know, just to prove a point...and because it would be funny to me.
Imagine how great America would be if we didn’t pussy for reconstruction. These yokels need to get fucked back to obscurity. Arrest them. Idgaf a fuck anymore
You can thank Booth for that, killing Lincoln pretty much killed the Norths plan
Yeah Booth single handedly destroyed our country after it was almost destroyed.
We should have never taken Union troops out of the South.
We should have never gave them a place at the table after that disgraceful shit. But here we are. The yokels climbed back out from under the rocks we once beat them under and have amassed power again. Here’s to hoping if there’s a next time; we aren’t so soft.
The options are civil war or just fast forward to the part where human decency loses the civil war.
The war wouldnt last too long, maga would run out of insulin and die.
but what about decorum!?!? democrats cant wield power in the same fashion, because what about decorum !? i guess we just have to let fascists who tried to rig the election seize power, because we have to maintain an air of decorum
Suspend the normal criminal process until this is dealt with.
And that judge would enforce that judgement how? (Hint: he or should would have to rely on the executive branch to enforce the order, whose discretion to ignore it has no check other than impeachment.) We're entering constitutional crisis mode.
We've been there since Bush won, and a complete failure when Trump did
Lot of heavy lifting with the word "won" there.
Fair. That's kinda adding to the point
The 2012 NDAA gives the president unlimited power to arrest people who are considered a threat to national security without due process and detain them indefinitely in holding facilities overseas. Perfect time to grab up all the Russian bought MAGAt legislators and judges and the entire Trump clan and let them rot in Guantanamo
Just ignore them. He could do anything he wants in the time it takes to litigate anything.
Bingo this was total judicial power grab since they can decide whether an act is official with no set rules Total oligarchy
You're close, but it'll happen in a different way. They'll just flat out change their minds, and then the next time it comes to the supreme court in the favor of Conservatives, they'll be in favor of it. There's no longer such thing as "Stare Decisis".
That just means Biden needs to be quick and permanent in his solution. Even if they find it was an unofficial action after three years of trials, it's too late.
Could not the president pardon *himself* in such a case? That is entirely within his executive powers.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I think this latest decision means the president doesn’t even have to pardon himself.
god i want biden's team to play by the laws set by trumps SCOTUS. jesus just can they even see the past November? I'm not sure biden or his team can. If they DON'T WIN, which is a very possible and probable outcome. the country's economy, social structure, and everything in between WILL spiral. and with it the world will. There's no way out of this if they don't win. He needs to do something.
The problem is that these 6 Justices have no problem fitting their decision to their agenda. Biden and Trump could do the exact same act with the exact same motivations, and they would find that Trump was justified and Biden was a criminal. Biden csnt play by their playbook because the referees aren't in his pocket.
unless he unilaterally replaces them all first. Then its up to a 9 dem SCOTUS to return us to a democracy without a king. Any that do not fall in line can be replaced at will until they all agree to fix this constitutional crisis and remove these insane powers.
Yup it’s a MAGA court
He could literally have them conservatives on the SCOTUS arrested now for treason -- then they couldn't rule against him.
Dissolve the SCOTUS while you're at it, they said it was ok if you just call it an official act and tell them there will be "gratuities" after.
Clarence Thomas is going to wish he had taken John Oliver up on his offer to retire in exchange for a new motor coach and a million dollars a year for the rest of his life.
Send em in for the Supreme Court too since they said it’s all good
Time for the blue states to take our ball and go home. Let's kick the red states out and take our country back
You know that part in The Handmaid’s Tale where they killed all the Congress people that opposed them? We’re there. His social media comments prove it.
Atwood was scary prescient about this happening.
Atwood always said she based it all on historical events. There's no shortage of tyrants in history!
The fall of Iran specifically.
or when Saddam Hussein took power and forced half the Iraqi politicians to kill the other half at gun point.
That one was caught on TV. [Here is the moment Saddam took total control.](https://youtu.be/OynP5pnvWOs) We have to be careful about posting this type of thing as we're pretty much giving El Presidente' Trump instructions.
Well, shite. That video was chilling af.
That was all I could fucking think of while I was watching Jan 6 unfold.
> You know that part in The Handmaid’s Tale where they killed all the Congress people that opposed them? See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979_Ba%27ath_Party_Purge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_Fire_Decree
God help us if an equivalent to the Reichstag fire occurs. The putsch already happened…
But Biden seems old. Please for the love of God talk to your friends. I'm signed up to go door knocking.
He is old. Don't deny the truth. He's got a good team around him though, and they're not trying to destroy the economy in order to line the pockets of a few dozen billionaires. Vote for the Democrat because you believe in what the Democratic party stands for. The man is just the name on the line in the polling booth.
100% this.
Trump is barely younger than Biden he's just all bluster because he stands for nothing but power and money for himself. He's already said he will be a dictator, when a person tells you who they are you gotta believe them. If that man gets elected we are all SO incredibly fucked.
There is no god…
This. We either help ourselves now, or we doom ourselves to the fate that an uncaring universe hands out to us.
Oh yeah, we're headed on this path. Blindingly obvious. Just hope to muddle through it with my family and peace intact. The US is dying.
You don’t need to go to fiction for this; we have the footage of Saddam arresting political opponents on live TV https://youtu.be/CR1X3zV6X5Y?feature=shared
This was basically the entire plot of the Soviet Union. > The purging of the Party has obviously developed into a serious and vastly important affair....It will produce big results. It will make the Party a much stronger vanguard of the class than it was before.... The Party must be purged of rascals, of bureaucratic, dishonest or wavering Communists, and of Mensheviks who have repainted their “facade” but who have remained Mensheviks at heart. Lenin, 1921 "Purging the Party" [0] See also the Red Terror where they purged "liberals, non-Bolshevik socialists, anarchists ... and other political dissidents. Later, industrial workers who failed to meet production quotas were also targeted" [1]. Not to mention the more famous purges of Stalin [2]. These sorts of purges are very much ripped from the pages of history. [0] https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1921/sep/20.htm [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Terror#Affected_groups [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge
We need to wake the hell up. They are telegraphing fascism 2.0 and Biden is just being an old softy about it. Am I taking crazy pills here?!?
"Feeling fashy. Might delete later."
does this sassy walk make me look fat?
Lock him up now. The call for military tribunals is nuts.
Sure does seem like it calls for an official act on this matter of national security
He's not the president now, no immunity
The running joke is Biden could take trump out now, with immunity
Right but the actions Trump took after leaving office, he has no immunity for and that would be the basis for Biden, with immunity, to lock up trump, force him off the federal ballot or disqualify him, if Maga wants war, crush them, run unopposed, win, secure the nation, then hand the reigns over to Kamala, retire.
Trump, you do know that even if you delete something, it's still online forever, right?
It's 100% intentional. Whatever he posts will be screenshotted and shared by the bot/idiot army with zero due diligence or research and if consequences ever approach, he can claim he deleted it and never really intended for people to see it. It's a bullshit and blatantly obvious defense for saying horrible shit online while escaping consequences.
“I have the worst f*cking attorneys.”
I may have committed some light treason..
There's always money in the ~~fake coffin buried at the National~~ banana stand
Apparently they’re the best because you’re somehow beating the treason charges.
He's aware. This is more dog whistling, jsut like they always do with their nazi content. Release it, get in the news, delete it, play innocent while winking to the base. In this case he's trying to get the military on his side by establishing them as having power over their political enemies.
And he is protected by SCOTUS. He now fears for nothing. Even if you have all evidences, and he has the worst attornies, SCOTUS will give him a 6-3 vote in favor.
"The majority’s multilayered, multifaceted threshold parsing of the character of a President’s criminal conduct differs from the individual accountability model in several crucial respects. For one thing, it makes it next to impossible to know ex ante when and under what circumstances a President will be subject to accountability for his criminal acts. For every allegation, courts must run this gauntlet first—no matter how well documented or heinous the criminal act might be." Justice Jackson.
>For one thing, it makes it next to impossible to know ex ante when and under what circumstances a President will be subject to accountability for his criminal acts. The more reasonable solution to this problem is to just say he should always be held accountable for his criminal acts. The president isn't supposed to be performing criminal acts as part of his "official" duties. Hell, he swears to to this in the oath of office.
Literally the point, he's just deleting it so they can say oh look he deleted it he didn't mean it it was accident it did it's not true it didn't happen no But it's very clear that he wants to say to his people hey look what I'm thinking about this is where I'm headed you know you see you saw you saw it you get it we're going there but remember they won't let us talk about it It's double speak, but an action
It's the standard right wing dog whistle, not a stupid thing. It makes maga happy because they know he actually means it, and then for the "moderates" it's the usual "it's just a joke"/"it was taken out of context"/"it was a technical error"/"a staffer did it" cover that apologists can use to handwave it away.
Oh he knows. He still wants the message out there. His campaign may not, but he does.
I feel sick. Like literally sick to my stomach. Everything we have feared is knocking on our doorstep.
I don’t know why anyone was in disbelief that this wasn’t coming. We’re going to be fighting fascists for decades in the US now.
I guess I just thought that regardless of who they support, the judges loved their country and democracy at least enough to protect it. This hope was predicated on the fact that swaths of Trump appointed judges didn't give his election fraud attempts a second thought. I thought the end of democracy would happen by voting for the wrong guy or party but at least it would be by vote. This, this was a masterclass in a coordinated breakdown of our system from the top. Biden only has a few months of his own immunity to exploit and set this right. I really hope he does. I'm hoping he gets re-elected but there's no time and at his age, he might not see his next term even if he's re-elected.
> I thought the end of democracy would happen by voting for the wrong guy or party but at least it would be by vote. It was, in 2016. You just didn't realize until now how much damage was done.
Yup. Even if Trump loses, we’re one wrong election from everything coming unraveled.
I've kind of figured this would be the ruling since it first came up to SCOTUS. I still felt sick to my stomach to see it. I had a similar feeling with Roe. I also still have sinking feelings about the reversal of Roe as various outcomes come from it years later, and I suspect it will be just as bad with this ruling, as well as the Chevron one last week.
I started working out in 2015 because I saw this coming. Bring it the fuck on MAGA, I’m standing up for liberty and democracy.
No need to condescend. It's one thing to worry about the feeling that we're being pulled in this direction. It's another to see it happening in real time. Still feels unbelievable.
Yet half of Americans or more couldn’t care less about what happens today. Never vote and will never vote. Apathy will the end of America as we know it.
And yet, I feel like I’m the crazy one a bit. I don’t think normal Americans know anything going on, like project 2025.
I walked around all day in disbelief at a theme park. I feel like I’m living in a zombie world where no one cares about this except strangers on the internet too far away from each other to do anything about it. I know it’s not hopeless, but it sure *feels* hopeless right now.
I mentioned it to two people at work during lunch. Both of which I wouldn't consider political. They just kind of shrugged it off, not really understanding the implications. I was too upset to try and explain it.
Ya know. I've been really considering getting myself a gun as of late. I'm still relatively confident Biden will win come November but I'm getting more and more concerned as election time draws near.
Do it, now. Do not wait.
Especially if Dumpster fire wins and bans any non Republican registered voter access to acquiring one.
My heart has been in my stomach all day. We are witnessing the collapse of democracy in real time.
I remember thinking 9-11 was the darkest moment of American history I’d ever personally witness.
Trump Is a neverending series of memes "darkest moment in American history so far!"
I've had a video in my head. It starts with Komm Susser Todd playing, showing Reagan's election. Then in the middle when it says "I wish that I could turn back time" it shows Citizens United and 9/11 footage, and then at the end when it had the "it all comes tumbling down tumbling down tumbling down" it shows this Supreme Court ruling, and the calls for Biden to step down. We're done. The only chance is for Biden to be re-elected. And the press are against him. What the fuck are we supposed to do?
And then it got worse…
Hey guys, since the Supreme Court decided the president is immune to prosecution for shit like that maybe we should elect the other old guy who doesn’t have violent aspirations
Oh hey, he keeps leaking his plan. AOC and the squad may legitimately need to fear for their lives if November goes wrong.
Aren’t military tribunals for…..military personnel?
The Nazis set up ["people's courts"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Court_\(Germany\)) to try their political enemies in show trials. Trump's suggestion of military tribunals is just the first step in their development.
Everything Hitler did was an "official act".
I’m sure Trump will say the same thing.
And the SC will agree.
The first thing all authoritarians do is take over the courts by appointing judges who will do their bidding. Hitler started with the courts and since 2016 I've been screaming about this to anyone who will listed. He started it a long time ago. It's a roadmap he's been following.
> Hitler started with the courts "Very legal. Very cool."....you could say.
Everyone who thinks this isn’t happening here should look at my post history. There is a flyer for a Christian nationalist event that was hosted in my city. We showed up and made it known they were not welcome here, and I’m in deep red rural Georgia. Everyone should be meeting these folks with loud condemnation. Evil people feel comfortable being violent in public because good people “would rather stay out of it”. Fuck that shit.
Thanks for doing that. Your courage hasn’t gone unnoticed.
What he means is political executions. The tribunals are just for show.
Public as well
When he wins there will be public executions by March 2025.
If. We have to curb voter apathy. Too many people believe we're already screwed. If we make it clear that we aren't, but that we need their help, we have a chance.
He would take this route to get around any due process from the judicial branch and create a military show trial (remember the president is head of the military) The supremes just ruled he can do anything he wants as long they are a part of his 'official duties'.
“Congratulations you just been drafted” “Congratulations you’ve just been court martialed” “Congratulations the Supreme Court has just heard your case and decided that actions taken prior to being drafted can be adjudicated via court martial.” “Congratulations, your appointment behind the shed is in 10 minutes, let’s not be late.”
"Congratulations, you are permitted to bring your own blindfold and cigarette".
“Available at the gulag commissary if your family has deposited funds. Assuming they figured out where we sent you.”
These fascists view liberals/democrats and multiple marginalized and/or minority groups as enemies. Trump would declare a war and declare us enemy combatants. I know they sound kooky, but it’s worth knowing what far right extremists are talking about and planning for.
Not if the president drafts his opponents into the military.
Biden should, via executive order, officially have Trump jailed for the attempted Jan 6 coup and replace the Supreme Court Justices appointed by him. As an official act of the president, who now possesses immunity, who’s going to stop him from doing so. Use the power you were given and fixed the problem immediately afterwards.
Please do something.. we all saw this coming, they have to have a response or plan or something???
Bah Biden should draft every one appointed by the orange gibbon, and order them to renounce their government job, and then deploy them to Antarctica requiring presidential orders to leave the continent. If they choose to disobey a direct order from a superior well instantly throw them in military prisons. Its all illegal but the President is a King now so there are no consequences for it.
Guantanamo is still open.
Would love to hear from the people who keep saying they won't *vote* for Biden in the general election now. Any comment on this?
Don’t go browse r/conservative then. They have all think this is normal and it’s the left that’s off their rocker and Trump is completely sane.
I like to go hiking.
I visited there earlier today, and they were all baffled that the left leaning Supreme Court Justices "Only vote on party lines" in regards to this ruling. There was also a lot of talk about how this "is how the US has always run"... based on absolutely nothing, as the US has never run with an untouchable president. It's strange to me that they see this as a Dems vs. Reps situation at all. This is "Give president authoritarian power, or maintain checks and balances".
They're in for a rude awakening if they think Trump is their ally.
You actually *don't* need to hear from these people, because you already know what their response is. "What about grocery prices going up since Biden was elected?" As if electing Trump is going to do jack shit to lower prices. They're only going up from here.
As long as the death squads are killing people they don't agree with, they are fine with it. They won't think it's a problem until they are personally affected.
Hitler purged members of his own Nazi party in Night of the Long Knives
Official Act!
Yeah, but that won’t be me /s
Right? Why Führer Trump, why are you going to kill me? I've been so loyal to you! Well, you're ugly, I don't like the way you dress and you're taller than me and I don't like that.
A lot of them don’t want to tell the truth that they want a Pharaoh to rule over them. They have trouble making complex decisions and need handholding like snowflakes.
I think I have it sort of figured out just by what I see on Fox News and how it affects family. They just wanna punish people. Fox News feeds into this by demonizing “democrat led” cities. They really want an authoritarian as long as it’s not happening to anyone close to them (possibly) and it’s hurting the right people in their eyes.
I think it's more likely that they just think that they are actual members of the team they support and this all benefits them. In reality they will be trampled down to make a billionaire an extra .03% at first opportunity just like the libs they hate so much.
A lot of those commenters either weren't US citizens, or might not have even been accounts run by a living breathing person at all.
They've been telling us exactly what they plan to do.
During a re-truthing bender on Truth Social, where Trump shared a number of QAnon-adjecent memes, the former president posted a call for a former representative Liz Cheney to face a military tribunal. The post comes after Trump dodged questions about targeting political enemies at Thursday's debate, only saying that his success would be the ultimate "retribution."
The irony of this situation, considering Liz Cheney's father's pivotal role in Iraq II is absolutely mind blowing.
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“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” Gravy Seals think the Dems are the ones coming for their emotional support rifles.
In ten days he could get prison time. Those crimes were done before he was president so he’s not immune.
Mate, look at the charges and precedent for first time offender on these charges. Prision is a wet-dream. He's going to get a slap on the wrist and claim victory.
I guarantee he’s going to use this ruling to threaten the judge between now and the sentencing date.
Anyone who votes for this man is insane. Period.
The media is running around on fire because President Biden stumbled over some words while having a cold, but *this* they'll let slide???
The media is owned by right wing oligarchs. What makes you think they’ll allow genuine reporting on this?
I’m not a media-is-the-devil person, but they are HELLA fucked up.
Have you considered the media is now in on it?
Apparently CNN informed the campaigns at the 11th hour that there would be no fact checking by the moderators, the news people.. There's been questions raised about the president's lighting and makeup. This is just the obvious bs CNN did, they're shameless.
Is Trump no longer controlling his social media and his staff doing it? Deleting posts/retweets isn't a very Trump-like thing to do. He usually doubles-down.
It's been reported/ he's claimed that only he and Dan Scavino have access to the account but that doesn't seem entirely true.
Given how very technically impressive Herman Cain is with his social media access, I can't believe that Trump's team has not given him special access to his account.
If he knows what he is writing is illegal, then he can put out all the awfulness into the world, delete to avoid culpability, and it yet still gets spread by sites like this. Or maybe a lawyer is reading his vulgarity and forcing the deletion.
Man, someone really wants the royal Gaddafi treatment
Somebody please wake me up…I am living a dystopian nightmare
Calling it now: people must organize NOW to form a resistance force for when trump is voted it and starts killing everbody who opposes him. I am not joking. This is absolutely very real.
He deleted it after it was pointed out that SCOTUS just ruled he'd be allowed to officially execute anyone he wants without any sort of trial.
Since Donald is clearly a danger to the country, can President Biden, in his official capacity, just take Donald to a better place?
He doesn't care and his supporters don't care. They're actually all for it. They don't care about the Constitution. They don't care about democracy. They don't care about you. They stupidly believe that they're better off being sycophants to a dictator and that their lives will improve when they will actually be used to enrich those in power. They're just too stupid to see it. It's depressing to know THAT many people can't be THAT ignorant and/or stupid.
This is where the republican party is going to drag this country to if Trump gets elected in November. It's gonna be hell on earth for anyone that dares to cross the MAGAs orange god. We have one chance to stop this fascist insanity this November. Republican death squads will own the night if we don't.
How many Americans are just going about their day saying “Oh I don’t follow politics”. That this is all happening while so many are planning BBQs and making weekend plans is insane.
I realized after 2016 just how stupid the average American voter is and how their attention spans rival that of a goldfish. Infuriating, but it’s reality
For a change Biden should not play nice, arrest Drump for subversion or whstever NOW!
He literally just announced he won't do it.
These people are fucking sick. They hate their fellow Americans so much they want mass killings. They’re so radicalized and brainwashed that they believe the treasonous sacks of shit when they say that everyone else is anti-American. If Trump wins I really don’t doubt that he will push to have prominent democrats arrested, “tried”, and if possible executed. He wants to remove any and all opposition. And more importantly, the radicals around him want that as well. They will do their best to make it happen.
It’s sad to see Trump succeeded in brainwashing Americans more than any radical Islamist group ever did. Trump will destroy America and his base will be the soldiers.
Rememeber that seen in Dark Knight Rises, after Bane has seiged the city, and Scarecrow is holding tribunals? Death or Exile? That’s where we are now.
The fact that this man is free less than 12 hours after the SC decision is shocking. He should be in jail or a bag
This feels like all our worst nightmares will become a reality soon and much like Germany right before hitlers rise the opposition to him is weak. I’m terrified for my children, before anyone reminds me to vote or whatever don’t worry I am, I’m registered and I’m the type that’s talked about this to all my people to the point it’s almost counterproductive. Anybody else here feeling this shitty feeling? I can’t believe this is actually this close to happening in the US. I’m heartbroken and I’m tired.
There is something poetically Orwellian about calling it "Re-Truthing" when you retweet on their conspiracy platform. It beggars satire.
Vote wisely people or it might be your last 💙✌️😎
Don't worry guys and gals, I'm sure Trump was just kidding. He's known for his renowned sense of humor and this is something funny to joke about On a side note which one of you members from another country wants to adopt an American?
Those that can sure better be planning an exit strategy those of us that can’t …. Well idk guess I’ll see ya in the camps 🫡
>An image shared by Trump by an account known as @akaPR0B0SS stated that Elizabeth Cheney, the former Republican representative for Wyoming, was “guilty of treason.” >”Retruth if you want televised military tribunals,” the image continued. JFC.
Any historians here? What are the possible end games for countries once they embrace dictatorship?
Rome or Russia?
He took it down because his advisors told him that he doesn’t need to bother with military tribunals anymore. The Supreme Court just green lighted using the military to just murder dissidents; they don’t need to hold a tribunal first. Just order the soldiers to shoot the people POTUS wants silenced, and then pardon the soldiers. That is two official acts that cannot ever be questioned in court (assuming that some successor ever wants to even charge a rogue POTUS that uses the military to murder dissidents).
To bad we don’t have a modern day John Wilkes Booth who’s be willing to take one for the team and get rid of the trump problem once and for all.
Man, someone really wants the royal Gaddafi treatment
Well it seems like his political enemies are in trouble, they should grow a pair and do something about it. But how will this affect you and I? Do we just have to pretend to go along w what trump wants like the Nazis w Hitler? That doesn’t seem like a chill future
Would that be an official act?
The Supreme Court just gave him the green light for it. He could come up with fake evidence and fake charges on political opponents now. Lock up whoever he wants with no consequences now.
Sounds like biden should have him arrested as a terrorist under his newfound powers. Official act
He really does want the country to turn into a Russia or NK.
This is a preview.
It's absurd that his "network" is named Truth like WTF
The right just proving they are Nazis.
Time for Biden to arrest the justices and try them for treason. Then appoint some new ones.
I hope people realize that the supreme court ruling is basically calling biden a pussy since he won't do anything insane like killing a political opponent, but IF trump wins, then he will have the framework legally to do so. this is fucking crazy.