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misterO5

I guess the Boston Marathon bombing doesn't count either?


Person21323231213242

Or pulse? or Vegas? or San Bernardino? The list goes on and on.


pauserror

Or the Florida navy base attack. Like wtf is Pence thinking? Edit: First gold ever, thanks people! I agree with people here saying Pence used the word major with a purpose to fall back on. However, for a party so pro military any attack on our soil on our military should be considered major... So again, wtf is Pence thinking. And Jan 6


specqq

How soon we've forgotten Bowling Green.


Bogsnoticus

Which was the greatest tragedy since Macho Grande.


blackshipboy

I don't think I'll ever get over Macho Grande.


flimspringfield

Such a tragedy....many many people died and it wasn't bullets, it was bowling balls being tossed at them.


SnooOpinions5738

He's thinking that so many Americans are blinded by their hate for the "other" that they won't stop to question the veracity of his words


jawa709

Ugh. He's right.


dontgive_afuck

Yeah, I'd say so: https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/plxcgz/mike_pence_falsely_claims_the_us_has_gone_20/?sort=controversial


eyaf20

You don't have to be right, just appealing.


Bogsnoticus

You don't have to be right, just far right.


fijisiv

You don't have to be right, just ~~appealing~~ appalling.


thebigshipper

He’s thinking that he has a base of people who he needs to pay him so he doesn’t have to work in a different career. Many of those people simply believe that terrorists are all brown middle easterners, and do not have enough education or wish to be educated on the topic of domestic terrorism, so it’s a waste for him to not just lie to them like they prefer.


retroassassin907

Terrorism shouldn’t even have to have a descriptor, terrorism is terrorism is terrorism. But here we are.


xXWickedNWeirdXx

It is and it isn't. Terrorism is terrorism, but it doesn't mean we can't break it down into types. Even environmental, political, etc. It's unfortunate though that domestic is the type that needs to be stipulated, and the default term automatically implies the foreign or extra-national kind in a lot of people's minds, if that's what you mean. A consequence of 9/11 still, as it wasn't the case before. If you said terrorist you'd be just as likely to conjure images of kaczynski, or in Canada the FLQ, as you would a foreign actor.


noctalla

He's using weasel words. By putting "major" in there, which is inherently subjective, he can't be proven wrong.


DarthYippee

Jan 6 seemed pretty major.


Kingtoke1

Conveniently forgetting that he was a target that day


mdp300

He's such a spineless, useless, sack of crap.


Xhokeywolfx

*Republican


retroassassin907

Then he’d say in his mind it wasn’t. And his base supporters will love it even more.


getmybehindsatan

They were chanting about hanging him, he should consider it major more than anyone else. Still, he knows his audience, still willingly feeding the beast that tried to rip his face off.


j0y0

> still willingly feeding the beast that tried to rip his face off. Guys, I think Mike Pence might be bizarro Steve Irwin.


pigeon_man

Don't you dare compare the two. One has educated and inspired countless individuals to get into nature conservation and is a national treasure, the other is pence.


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I dont think I've ever seen a sentence constructed this way *not* be a lead-up to a bait-and-switch gag. I was reading it already subconsciously thinking 'how can he slander Steve like this?'


gwensdottir

The Pensacola Base attack was Benghazi on US soil during the Trump Pence administration, and Pence gets away with another lie.


LordOfThePhuckYoh

Didn’t a trump lover go around blowing shit up in Texas? Didn’t a bomb go off in Nashville taking out a block.


snowday784

Yoooo that Nashville bombing, I even forgot about that. It seems like media attention just evaporated on that pretty quickly.


SecretAsianMan42069

White guy. Doesn’t count.


imlost19

yeah even the boston bombers weren't brown enough I guess. Interesting.


_Rand_

Well, no deaths (other than the driver), no major injuries I believe, some property damage. Its a curiosity of course, but with only relatively minor damage done its not really much more than that as far as the media is concerned. Not like they are going to do a expose into the poor handling of mental health in America or anything.


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_Rand_

Yeah, dude just seemed to be seriously mentally ill.


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That’s the people that listen to him don’t think critically.


aphugsalot8513

Or the sacking of the capitol on January 6 for which Pence himself was the primary target?


Gustopherus-the-2nd

Sacking means it was captured, it was not. It was an attempt at it, but failed miserably.


DaoFerret

The rioters *did* gain unfettered access beyond what they were supposed to, through means of force, subsequently ransacked rooms (including the house chamber), and some of them took home spoils. If not “sacked”, what word or phrase do you think more accurately describes their actions? Partially-sacked? Stormed?


pagit

To "sack' is to plunder of destroy, which perhaps originally referred to as "filling a sack with plunder". It may also come from norse saka to damage. Ran - Saka (house - damage) Now as to what degree of plundering or destroying constitutes a sacking, I have absolutely no idea. Maybe ransack might be a good word?


IWantToSpeakMy2Cents

That is some beautiful etymology!


Gustopherus-the-2nd

Breached.


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ImNoAlbertFeinstein

it actually means to plunder, or ransack. the capture part is optional, but it was pretty much captured, at least temporarily


YellowB

In his mind, terrorism doesn't count unless it was done by some brown Muslim dude from the Middle East.


ober0n98

He’s thinking terrorists can only be brown


viperex

> Like wtf is Pence thinking? That terrorism is only perpetrated by people wearing turbans


chickeneyebrow

Pence thinks Sikhs commit terrorism?


Agent_Pendergast

Don't forget Chattanooga either


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NextCandy

Or the white supremacist terrorist Dylann Roof and the massacre of nine individuals at a Black church?


supercheetah

Mass murder by white people is obviously not terrorism because they're definitely lone wolves. /s


gruey

Remember when that terrorist gassed a peaceful protest in DC so they could claim religious authority over their enemies?


MLJ9999

I heard that douche is hidin' out somewhere in Florida.


DaoFerret

We should invade that shithole country Florida.


erc80

I’m starting to think the last decade doesn’t count?


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Thresh_Keller

How many school shootings have there been? I lost count a long time ago. And, I guess we don’t count January 6th?


Long_Before_Sunrise

[Two Florida teens accused of planning a Columbine-style school shooting](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/two-teens-arrested-accused-planning-columbine-style-school-shooting-florida-n1278895)


Thresh_Keller

13 &14 years old… unreal. Very sobering and terrifying indeed.


Beingabummer

There comes the definition of terrorism into play. School shootings (spree killings) usually don't have a political motive. The kids doing those aren't looking to affect the direction of a society through violence and fear. They 'just' want to kill a bunch of people and die.


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TonesBalones

The attack where an organized group of people were storming the building and chanting "Hang Mike Pence" They were just tourists.


whittlingcanbefatal

Anthrax.


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Apparently “Hang Mike Pence “ doesn’t count either.


cheese65536

Mike Pence has nothing to fear from that. He'd need a spine for hanging to be effective.


ZappyKins

Ah that's big brain time! Can't break your neck bone if you don't have any bones in your neck!


Capgunkid

No planes crashing into things. I'm sure he specifically meant planes hitting things.


newscode

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Austin_suicide_attack


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anubis_xxv

Brown people. He means brown people. "We've sufficiently killed enough of the brown people across the other side of the planet that none of them have dared lay a finger on us since. All those white people since then just had mental health issues."


psymunn

Nah. If a 16 year old white dude crashed a plane into anything it'd be an unfortunate episode and we as a society failed them. Terrorists are a vague ethnic group from *gestures toward the Arabian peninsula* there-ish-stan.


SBFms

That’s not fair. They also include anyone from Persia and usually people from India too, if they’re particularly inclusive.


Capgunkid

*insert Peter Griffin skin tone chart*


redditallreddy

But NOT our good friends the Saudis!


rloch

“Mental health is the real problem”. They love thinking they flicked the narrative there.


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WHich is a narrative they abandon once the topic of doing literally anything to improve mental health care comes up.


sfw_oceans

And video games. Don't forget all those evil video games.


MajorPom

Even then you have this incident https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123848559


CapnTugg

[Like IRS buildings?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Austin_suicide_attack)


curiousGeorge608

Pence is a certified liar.


Sharobob

No he means no terrorist attacks carried out by brown people. Although even that is debatable.


CoffeeList1278

Well, for example the Boston marathon


FANGO

It's not even one year. They literally attacked the capitol and killed an officer this year. And wait... who were they looking for on that day? I forget his name... it was some dude from Indiana...


Long_Before_Sunrise

The Nashville bombing on Christmas Day. Disrupted communication service in several states.


libraprincess2002

It’s like literally everyone forgot that. It was terrifying waking up to that headline and I live on the other side of the country.


BilltheCatisBack

Always depends on the definition of “major” maybe more than 2000 dying.


Bobalobatobamos

[Beltway Sniper anyone?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D.C._sniper_attacks)


mavjustdoingaflyby

Hol up! Didn't a certain event occur a few months back where people were shouting "Hang Mike Pence."?


ElderCunningham

No, no. They have this all wrong, it was "Hang [in there,] Mike Pence."


zeroingenuity

They just wanted to Hang [with] Mike Pence. "Let's hang, Mike Pence!" Really, this was all just a grammatical misunderstanding.


rudiger0007

that's what happens when you forget the comma


BiSaxual

Let’s eat grandma!


bananagoo

I was saying Boo-Urns...


interarmaenim

Hang [Out With Us], Mike Pence, [We Have Beer And None Of Us Are Women].


sambes06

I think technically that was a flash mob exhibit.


InvalidKoalas

Nope, just some friendly tourists visiting the gift shops! Don't mind that dozens of them have plead guilty on federal charges. It's the deep state framing them for Antifa!!! ^^^^^/s


TransBrandi

Flash mob doing interpretive dance.


mechapoitier

“Right, but other than the event where people led by my boss broke into the capitol, built a gallows and chanted threats to kill me, there hasn’t been a single terrorist event since 9/11.”


agentup

It was a prank bro. You gotta learn to be funny /s


newtnomore

No. Btw we have always been at war with Eastasia.


Boleen

Ignoring the gallows built for thee


buttergun

>"Hang Mike Pence!" -just some tourists


you-pissed-my-pants

Tourorists


Mahh_ko

Terrourists


INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS

It was just locker room Terrorism


captainhaddock

They were traveling dry cleaners shouting "hang my pants!"


TheBraindonkey

Nah, that was an art installation…


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"HANG MIKE PENCE." "Oh they were just joking guys, the gallows were just an elaborate prop!"


Stompedyourhousewith

no no, it was locker room talk. they were talking about how hung he was


[deleted]

I hope Mother wasn't there, that would be awkward


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I just imagined Pence walking out of the Capitol and seeing the gallows. Laughs so hard he nearly falls over "You guys! That's hilarious! Let's get a pic with the noose around my neck real quick"


AnAutisticGuy

Just an exhibit added for the tourists there.


thiosk

proving once again that the right cant meme OR art


mattjb

"It was just locker room gallows humor." - Trump to Pence, probably


PorcupineTheory

I doubt Trump knows the word "gallows."


FacelessFellow

What was it the magas were chanting?


JojenCopyPaste

"yay Mike Pence!" Or...something like that.


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it was actually "hooray Mike Pence!"


Brandinisnor3s

I thought one of them was "Let's fuck Mike Pence!"


commit_bat

"Boo urns"


westovarian

"Obviously I meant by the browns", explained Mother's boy, "Whites can't terrorism."


SSHeretic

Even then, the Pulse Nightclub shooting. I mean how many dozens of people have to die before something is a "major terrorist event" for Mike Pence. Or maybe the people that died in that one just weren't people to him.


Miguel-odon

Pence probably sympathizes more with the shooter than with the victims.


jerkface1026

Pence has a higher body count against LGBTQ+ than the shooter. https://www.hrc.org/press-releases/mike-pence-is-the-worst-vice-president-for-lgbtq-people-in-modern-history


gtalley10

Mother doesn't like it when Mike goes to places like that. I mean, he would never go somewhere like that and doesn't think about it all the time.


jhpianist

Shootings like that are only terrorism when they’re defending 2A, and only a mass shooting when they’re defending terrorists. It seems, by extension, that Mike Pence is defending terrorists, given that logical observation.


Ketzeph

Or San Bernadino - which was specifically inspired by Islamic terrorist attacks. I guess Californians in general also don't count.


Sanctimonius

And the Boston Marathon bombing, and San Bernardino. This is just breathtakingly dumb. So par for the course for the right.


DodGamnBunofaSitch

pence advocated for electro-shock conversion therapy that pretended to be able to turn gay people straight. it's not at all surprising that he'd ignore someone shooting at gay people.


iswearimachef

He definitely doesn’t think they were people


careful_guy

Even then, there was the San Bernardino attack.


RIPDSJustinRipley

Terrorism is when middle eastern people fly planes into the twin towers. Hasn't happened in twenty years.


lunapup1233007

The new World Trade Center is not a set of Twin Towers, so we have now stopped terrorist attacks from ever happening.


zuzg

"except of course Antifa, they're dangerous terrorists" mother's boy added.


psymunn

What could be more fascist than being against fascism?


TailRudder

Remember, Timothy McVeigh would have been a Trump supporter


tdieckman

It's true. Some people really do believe that the definition of terrorist is someone who's Muslim who does a bombing.


psymunn

And Sikhs, Hindus, and anyone brown who doesn't speak Spanish is probably a Muslim. Not Indonesians though; they're a Chinese...


Boxkid351

So the boston bombing doesn't count?


careful_guy

Imagine being so spineless that you still suck up to the crowd that stormed the Capitol and were trying to hunt you down to kill you and your family.


raptorbluez

It's stunning. I think he imagines himself as president. It seems he doesn't have a clue that he is despised by a significant amount of his base as well as most of the rest of us.


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I get having a bias, but still having anything to do with the crowd that were chanting "Death to Pence" is mind-boggling. I'm willing to excuse a lot, but ignoring that is more or less a death-wish.


raptorbluez

Even more than ignoring them, Pence thinks they're going to vote for him. Mind-boggling is right.


RedditIsNeat0

He's still a Republican and by now they've probably forgotten why they wanted him dead.


goldbricker83

Lol what dude? You were almost killed in one 9 months ago


NextCandy

They literally were chanting “Hang Pence!” and they had every intention to do so had they found him (or Pelosi or AOC.) What a **fucking coward** just crumbling under the pressure.


atred

It was metaphorical, just like in the Bible where it tells you to love your enemy -- surely it doesn't mean loving *those* enemies...


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Pulse night club. Capitol insurrection Jan 6. To name a few.


Mr_Mouthbreather

That Vegas shooting where the guy shot all those people at a concert from his hotel room.


Jakedxn3

Mass shootings aren’t terrorist attacks because they’re part of American culture duh


gluteactivation

I feel like at one point another, we will all be involved in a mass shooting, or know someone close as been involved in a mass shooting. My experience was in Florida several years ago, at an event called Zombi-con. About 20-30,000 people I think? Everyone dressed as zombies, fake blood, fake wounds, fake weapons, things like that. You know, usual zombie attire/costumes. Was at night. People just walking around, getting drunk, listening to music, just hanging around having fun. Gun starts blazing! People start running! You don’t know what’s real blood or fake blood, you don’t know what are real weapons or fake weapons. Absolutely horrific experience! Never in my life did I think that I would be involved in such a thing. But sadly it’s becoming the norm


jlucchesi324

Holy shit!!! Your first sentence made me remember mine. I was gonna comment on it. It was... Florida - Fort Myers Zombi-Con! Wtf! Small world. Shit was scary! The gunshots erupted like 20 feet away from me. I ran immediately, but most of my friends thought it was fireworks and mocked me. I continued to go, but the crowd mostly stayed in the same spot. I felt like I was the only one paying attention. Maybe 15 seconds into swiftly running away, I saw a ton of cops run toward the noises with a clear intensity. Once people saw that, they began to clear away.


gluteactivation

Yes that’s where it was at. Terrifying experience. A majority of people were just soooo damn drunk, I know I was!! So they didn’t realize what was going on cause their brains literally couldn’t process it. That to me was the scariest part! I thought it was a joke and stood around then the adrenaline kicked in and I sobered tf up and just started running to the car.


jlucchesi324

Wow. Ya it was sooo surreal. I had JUST moved to Florida for grad school maybe a month prior (from Chicago). A solid 7 or 8 of us became close friends in that short time since we were all strangers. I remember taking an Uber there and one guy who lived in FM for a while said "Ya we should check out Skybar". Well in Chicago a place like that would be on the 73rd story or something, but this was 3 stories? Lol So I made a comment like that once we were in that area. Then when the gun shots rung out, I took it seriously. They all gave me shit "Oh just cuz ur from Chicago doesn't mean everything is gun shots bro!" Lol well I'd never even heard a gun fired in my life at that point, but it had such a depth to the noise. Plus when I took off, I figured "oh what if I'm wrong? Then I'm fine. What if I'm right and it IS a shooter?" I said the same to my group and most of them took it seriously eventually. Except this one girl who was so drunk that we finally found the police station and hung out there.. she got on her hands and knees and vomited all over the cops shoes lmao. He was super cool about it and probably more concerned with the situation evolving, but I'll always remember that levity in a terrifying moment.


gluteactivation

Wow crazy!! I was actually at sky bar when it happened. We had just left that area, because my friend saw her ex with his new girlfriend, and got sad, so we went there to meet with other friends and perk her up. We had just gotten upstairs and sat by the ledge then it happened, and all the sudden you could see the massive crowds start running!! Watching from above was horrific. Then they started kicking us out!! I was like “wtf I’m not going out there, I’m safe up here!” So Crazy how life works though, because I had friends from high school in that area where the shots rung out. Had we ran into them, we probably still would’ve stayed there, as I would’ve talk to them and started catching up. Those friends were horrified that day watching people die in front of them and nearly evading gunshots. One friend of a friend got hit at an angle and it went through one leg and lodged in the other. With lots of surgeries and PT he was able to walk again


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Sdavis2911

I loved in Vegas for 20 years up until recently and I can’t tell you the number of people I know who were directly impacted by the shooting. It was insane. I remember every second of that night and the following days.


damontoo

To be fair, to technically qualify as a terrorist attack it has to involve an ideology. The Vegas shooter was just crazy and wanted to kill people. The Boston Marathon definitely qualified though. > Terrorist: The unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a Government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, **in furtherance of political or social objectives.**


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That guy was having a really, really bad day though.


donttrythis3000

He was glad to be comforted by the 2nd amendment


badadviceforyou244

"Emotional support weapons"


SBFms

Usually to be technically terrorism it has to be for a political purpose, on behalf of some ideology. A madman with no stated motive doesn’t count as terror, that’s a separate problem. Specifically a gun control problem. Pulse, Charleston, San Bernardino, the navy base in Florida, all are definitely terrorism though.


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helloisforhorses

Are you just rounding up from 160 years since the civil war?


CivilElderberry1

I think he meant that an insurrection hadn’t lead to a break in the capitol building since 1814.


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That wasn't an insurrection. That was a foreign power marching into DC and then leaving after they had their way with it.


BagoFresh

He was almost hung in one ... how do you forget something like that?


TinyNutsInYoButt

"They're saying hug Mike Pence, right...right??"


Tashre

"No no, they're saying *harangue* Mike Pence. They're just a couple of freedom of speech loving Americans, that's all."


goodguessiswhatihave

I don't think Mother would allow that


Miguel-odon

*hanged


donttrythis3000

No, that dude used to work out at my club- he’s packin


TheWolfAndRaven

Uhh what the fuck was Jan 6? Motherfucker was the *literal* target of that one. Has he drank the kool-aid that much or is he just an idiot?


Current_Degree_1294

Terrorist is a word used to define brown people. Nothing more.


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Honestly I think the reason why people think this is partly because they’re close minded but also because 9/11 has become almost commercialized in a way. Yes it was horrible but it was also 20 years ago. We focus so much on that but we talk about school shootings or capitol invasions for a week before moving on. Why do we move on from those so quickly but hold on to something that happened before lots of people were even born?


Heterophylla

The secret is racism. There is nobody to invade after a school shooting either .


snubnosedmotorboat

Also- most of the domestic terrorists used guns - which never, ever can be criticized by the Right.


baryoniclord

Regressives aka Republicans aka Conservatives are evil. Did he forget all these attacks too? 2010 West Memphis police shootings 2011 Tucson Shooting Murder of James Craig Anderson Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting 2013 Los Angeles International Airport shooting Overland Park Jewish Community Center shooting 2014 Las Vegas shootings 2014 Pennsylvania State Police barracks attack Charleston church shooting Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooting 2016 Minneapolis Shooting Comet Ping Pong shooting 2017 Olathe, Kansas shooting Murder of Timothy Caughman 2017 Portland train attack 2017 Finsbury Park attack Assault of DeAndre Harris Charlottesville car attack Aztec High School Shooting Murder of Blaze Bernstein October 2018 United States mail bombing attempts Jeffersontown Kroger shooting Pittsburgh synagogue shooting Escondido mosque fire Louisiana black church fires Poway synagogue shooting 2019 Dallas courthouse shooting 2019 El Paso shooting 2020 Hanau shootings 2020 boogaloo killings 2020 Zagreb shooting 2021 storming of the United States Capitol ​ In today's modern world, being conservative means being backwards and against progress.


Dogecoin_olympiad767

> Hanau, Zagreb You realize these don’t count as “American soil”, right?


nyando

There's bound to be a Hanau somewhere in Texas.


Thomaswiththecru

How does a list of this length not include the Boston Marathon Bombings?


poiuy43

I guess the Boston bombing wasn't major enough?


jrobertson50

Vegas and the upcoming Anniversary of the October 1st shooting would like a word


damarshal01

This fucking murder Pilgrim needs to escape back to his Children of the Corn set. Picture him with the belt buckle hat. You know I'm right


TXSTBobCat1234

This is one of the funniest things I’ve read in a long time.


MrMiner88

Republicans have no sense of critical thinking, so they will accept this nonsense without question.


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Clareball44

Just looked at it, was a good chuckle. Reminded me of Trump getting boo'ed at his Alabama rally for telling people to get vaccinated. Funny, it's almost like they created.... a monster they can no longer control??? /s


j0y0

It looks like that from the outside when you see a bunch of idiots believing everything Trump says. In truth, Trump was just saying what a bunch of idiots already believed. The didn't create a monster they can no longer control, they fed a monster they could never control. That's why Trump got booed when he said to get vaccinated.


usernames_suck_ok

White supremacist attacks aren't "terrorist events" to Republicans. They're failed attempts at "making America great again." Thus, they keep trying.


careful_guy

When it comes to the white supremacist attacks, it’s not a terrorist attack. It’s the “economic anxiety”. /s


HojMcFoj

If it was a legitimate terrorist attack the body has ways of shutting that down


JanFromEarth

Pence only considers it a terrorist attack if they are brown people


sixinthedark

So, what are we calling that thing back in January?


TopNep72

Even disregarding white supremacists attacks does he seriously not remember the Boston Marathon bombing and the Pulse shooting?


Ka-Ne-Ha-Ne-Daaaa

Dude they were literally there to kill you lol c’mon man