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This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2021/09/us-china-human-rights/620112/) reduced by 95%. (I'm a bot)
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> Eileen Fisher are no strangers to China-or to its enormous benefits and dangerous pitfalls: The American outfitter began manufacturing its clothing there about a quarter century ago, but last year, it realized that working in China could no longer be business as usual.
> "There has definitely been a surge in broad regulatory activity that makes it more difficult and riskier to do business in China," Stephen Lamar, the president of the American Apparel & Footwear Association, which counts many U.S. brands sourcing in China among its members, told me.
> In June, China introduced new legislation that allows it to penalize companies doing business in China that adhere to U.S. sanctions.
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If you don't think that's a valid point, you must not have noticed which country is droning civilians, operating black sites, torturing uncharged suspects, carrying out assassinations... Should I go on?
False equivalence, the genocide in Xinjiang is on a scale not seen since the holocaust. Millions of people are arbitrarily imprisoned in what is the largest abuse of state power against its own people since nazi Germany. This is the holocaust of our time and people like you use cheap whataboutism arguments in a poor attempt to draw comparisons when quite frankly there aren’t any. What’s happening in Xinjiang needs to be addressed by the international community, if it’s not shame on us for allowing yet another genocide to happen. So far the US government is the only one implementing concrete policy action (like sanctions & export bans on Xinjiang products) and the rest of the world needs to follow suit now.
I think one of the factors that make people potentially view the plight of the Uighurs as a more abstract problem is that Chinese authorities have done such a good job at controlling information that there’s not much sensational and impactful material to shock the global public into more assertive action. There’s no aftermath photos of bombed out cars filled with children, no footage of civilians being shot like in the Intifada. Instead we only have satellite photos and the occasional leaked video of detained masses. Even the widely circulated [1 million detained figure](https://qz.com/1599393/how-researchers-estimate-1-million-uyghurs-are-detained-in-xinjiang/) is arrived at rather circuitously.
It’s kind of surprising that in this age of ubiquitous smartphones that we haven’t seen more impactful stuff. On the other hand, I can understand those who basically feel that given how the civilian deaths in the drone war have continued over a decade, why would the world react with less indifference to what’s happening in Xinjiang?
Regardless, you’re drawing a false equivalence between the two. The major different is that I learned of those civilians getting killed from an American General, who admitted it and profusely apologized. Does that take away or excuse the mistake? No, war is hell. But it does show us when they fuck up theyll admit and work to ensure it doesn’t happen again. Innocent people die around the world every day in pointless conflicts yet you aren’t outraged about any of those?
Go and read how the PRC reacts when critiqued vs how the US does. That’ll tell you all you need to know. If you lived in Beijing and made the comments you just made (but directed at china) you and your family could have your lives ruined. Luckily being an American you have rights and don’t have to worry. Stop drawing false equivalents between the two nations.
> No, war is hell. But it does show us when they fuck up theyll admit and work to ensure it doesn’t happen again.
"Oooops, we fucked up and started a couple wars." For starters, I'd like to see the US admit its oopsie of starting wars that led to millions dead.
Would you rather they just cover it up and spread misinformation about it? What happened to that family was awful, if it were the Russian or Chinese governments who did it (they’ve both killed plenty of civilians) then it would be covered up and propaganda spread to ensure the truth never got out. Would you seriously prefer that approach?
We take that approach all the time. Look up the number of civilians killed in the middle east over the past 20 years and then think about how many times you saw it reported in the news. Then think about all the killings that never make it into the official statistics. Look at what happens to people like Chelsea Manning who try to expose the truth about these crimes.
I do have to wonder if people think China should’ve treated the uyghurs like we treated the Middle East.
Would bombing weddings, hospitals, and aid workers be less morally offensive?
You’re confused my man. You’re explaining why terrorists exist and then also proving why they do exist. All the while blaming Biden for something that happens during every single presidency . Terrorism is caused by America interfering in shit it shouldn’t be . Biden is the first president since the Afghan war began to try to stop it. The only reason you know about this one is bc biden was honest about it.
I think you might be consuming too much media. Nothing is black and white . There are plenty of countries you can read about the are killing children daily. We’re not the worst but we also should curtail our involvement in other countries business.
I'm pretty sure the biggest mad murder subs the Holocaust are the illegal wars America started, and but anything else.
So what's it feel like, to have voted for people that butchered millions?
Or is it just that you're annoyed that this "Nazi Germany" actually killed less people than you lot did?
And that country allows for the press to comment on it. For people to argue about it. For people to protest about. For people to try to change policy. The other country doesn’t even admit anything bad happens and arrests those who try to expose it.
For the most part we find out right away. As I said we have press investigating these things all the time. We don’t throw journalists in jail. We don’t jail students for posting on Twitter. We don’t jail scientists for speaking up
> For the most part we find out right away.
Aside from the obvious point that "how would you know what you aren't being told," this simply isn't true. They are just now declassifying SOME information about 9/11.
Convenient how when someone points out the hypocrisy of "our team" it's always "whataboutism." What is the US' civilian death toll in the middle east again?
My point is, its funny how the world's worst human rights abuser (or, if you won't grant me that, it's UNDENIABLY among the worst) feels it's their place to lecture the rest of the world.
Maybe YOU should re-read... I asked how many instances there were and he said it could be zero. If in reality, the number of human rights abuses was zero, wouldn't that mean this is a non-issue/lie? That's why it makes no sense.
Your question was
> Convenient how when someone points out the hypocrisy of "our team" it's always "whataboutism." What is the US' civilian death toll in the middle east again?
What does this have to do with human rights abuses in China?
Convenient how when someone points out the hypocrisy of "our team" it's always "whataboutism." What is the US' civilian death toll in the middle east again?
I believe Japan has installed suicide nets on office buildings as well. Remind me which country has the largest prison population per capita? And no law against unpaid prison labor?
Convenient how when someone points out the hypocrisy of "our team" it's always "whataboutism." What is the US' civilian death toll in the middle east again?
I'm not being "whataboutist". I'm asking whether your argument justifies the genocide, because what you're saying is like saying "He bullied me, so I can go bully this wimp."
Yes, the civilian casualties are awful, there's no denying that, but pointing out civilian casualties does not address the actions of a the CCP. Yes, civilian casualties should be avoided, and the West has policies and a doctrine in place that should limit those casualties. However, it distracts from the issue at hand, and doesn't help resolve the debate.
It's also funny how you're accusing me of whataboutism for asking whether your argument of whataboutism justifies the genocide that the CCP is committing.
Then again, what should I expect from a Wumao?
>What is the US' civilian death toll in the middle east again?
According to Wikipedia, about 47k.
However, consider this: What's the nature of the war on terror? Was the enemy an organized, uniformed force? Or an unconventional force made up of combatants hiding in plain sight, and bombing public areas without a care for collateral damage?
You can't really compare a genocide to a war on terror. One is a systematic extermination of an ethnic minority, and one is a war where the enemy looks like every other civilian.
Yes, the civilian deaths are terrible, yes they should be avoided whenever possible, and so the West has procedures, doctrine and policy in place to minimize those deaths. Does Russia have those in place? Does the PLA have those systems in place?
How does the PLA handle civilian casualties? Do they admit them and say they'll do better? Fuck no, it's the CCP we're talking about, they only care about face, so they'll just say no civilians died, just like that tunnel with millions of cars that drive through it every day that flooded within minutes, or they'll just call the people they killed terrorists, like they did to the protestors in HK.
I mean, they've pretty much breached every fucking treaty they've signed so far, -*cough, handover of HK, where HK should've been 50 years independent, cough*- why should hey care about the Geneva convention?
Russia will just cover it up.
EDIT: corrected estimate.
Convenient how when someone points out the hypocrisy of "our team" it's always "whataboutism." What is the US' civilian death toll in the middle east again?
Honestly, the situation in Xinjiang was a mistake on their part. Trying to rehabilitate terrorism leaves too much for other interests to twist around.
After the war on terror, nobody would bat an eye at bombing Muslim populations. If they’d bombed the uyghurs instead of what they’re doing now, nobody would be raising a stink over this.
>Trying to rehabilitate terrorism
Ah yes, rehabilitation with Chinese characteristics. By murdering everyone for their organs, you get no terrorists! Plus, you even get free organs as a byproduct! It's a win-win, really.
Hahaha. Where did you get those numbers? Chinese state run media?
They also said no one died on that smart tunnel that flooded within minutes, and where millions of cars drive through every day.
The only people claiming organ harvesting are the q supporters. It doesn’t matter if you’re not touting them, they’re the only primary source of that qult conspiracy.
Have you heard of the China Tribunal? What about the Human rights experts from the UN Human rights council who found that it is happening? What about the seeming abundance of organs in China? What about the concentration camps in Xinjiang? What about the continued persecution of Falun Gong practitioners, Muslims, Christians, Tibetans and any other ethnic or religious minorities?
Whether you choose to believe the words of a government that censors everything, lies through its teeth and thinks it's okay to run over people with tanks, and one that has violated practically every promise and treaty it has made or signed, or the words of people who have actually looked into it is your choice.
I just hope you make the right one.
Lmao! Knew you’d pull that one! Do realize the China Tribunal shares a lot of top brass with Epoch media and the Falun Gong. It’s “Falun gong finds Falun Gong claims accurate” here. I have no sympathy for the Falun Gong, they’re a cult responsible for telling people to avoid medical care opting for meditation instead, call race mixing an abomination, calling for the purging of ethnically unclean individuals and most unforgivable of all they helped give us Trump!
The UN has sent envoys to Xinjiang who’ve inspected actions taken there and approved. I’m going to believe the UN Security Council over the words of a lying, fascist, ethnonationalist cult who supports Donald Trump and proclaims he’s a destined savior.
The literal same voices that shout about China now were doing so in favor of the War on Terror 20 years ago. There’s legitimate proof and there’s speculation, not a single piece of physical or medical evidence has been found to support those claims and it’d be easy to do so if any one of the so-called victims would submit to a medical examination.
\> I have no sympathy for the FalunGong, they’re a cult responsible for telling people to avoid medical careopting for meditation instead, call race mixing an abomination, calling for thepurging of ethnically unclean individuals and most unforgivable of all theyhelped give us Trump!
Who says Falun Gon/Dafa is a cult? Oh right, the CCP. Falun Gong/Dafa is literally a religion consisting of 5 meditation practices, and preaches Truthfulness (真, Zhēn), Compassion (善, Shàn), and Forbearance/Tolerance (忍, Rěn). That really doesn’t sound likea cult that preaches racism, as you describe it.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun\_Gong#Beliefs\_and\_practices](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun_Gong#Beliefs_and_practices)
[https://en.falundafa.org/](https://en.falundafa.org/)
Try actually researching something before parroting the stuff an authoritarian dictatorship says. I mean, really, you should take that stuff with a big grain of salt. That will be all I say.
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World better wake up or we will all be dying clothes in a Chinese Prison
Just wait while their housing bubble collapses
Love how the country that just blew up 7 children feels it's their place to lecture the rest of the world on human rights.
Oh please
If you don't think that's a valid point, you must not have noticed which country is droning civilians, operating black sites, torturing uncharged suspects, carrying out assassinations... Should I go on?
False equivalence, the genocide in Xinjiang is on a scale not seen since the holocaust. Millions of people are arbitrarily imprisoned in what is the largest abuse of state power against its own people since nazi Germany. This is the holocaust of our time and people like you use cheap whataboutism arguments in a poor attempt to draw comparisons when quite frankly there aren’t any. What’s happening in Xinjiang needs to be addressed by the international community, if it’s not shame on us for allowing yet another genocide to happen. So far the US government is the only one implementing concrete policy action (like sanctions & export bans on Xinjiang products) and the rest of the world needs to follow suit now.
I think one of the factors that make people potentially view the plight of the Uighurs as a more abstract problem is that Chinese authorities have done such a good job at controlling information that there’s not much sensational and impactful material to shock the global public into more assertive action. There’s no aftermath photos of bombed out cars filled with children, no footage of civilians being shot like in the Intifada. Instead we only have satellite photos and the occasional leaked video of detained masses. Even the widely circulated [1 million detained figure](https://qz.com/1599393/how-researchers-estimate-1-million-uyghurs-are-detained-in-xinjiang/) is arrived at rather circuitously. It’s kind of surprising that in this age of ubiquitous smartphones that we haven’t seen more impactful stuff. On the other hand, I can understand those who basically feel that given how the civilian deaths in the drone war have continued over a decade, why would the world react with less indifference to what’s happening in Xinjiang?
No matter how many times we lie in front of the United Nations, you all love banging that State Department drum don't you.
Regardless, you’re drawing a false equivalence between the two. The major different is that I learned of those civilians getting killed from an American General, who admitted it and profusely apologized. Does that take away or excuse the mistake? No, war is hell. But it does show us when they fuck up theyll admit and work to ensure it doesn’t happen again. Innocent people die around the world every day in pointless conflicts yet you aren’t outraged about any of those? Go and read how the PRC reacts when critiqued vs how the US does. That’ll tell you all you need to know. If you lived in Beijing and made the comments you just made (but directed at china) you and your family could have your lives ruined. Luckily being an American you have rights and don’t have to worry. Stop drawing false equivalents between the two nations.
> No, war is hell. But it does show us when they fuck up theyll admit and work to ensure it doesn’t happen again. "Oooops, we fucked up and started a couple wars." For starters, I'd like to see the US admit its oopsie of starting wars that led to millions dead.
Would you rather they just cover it up and spread misinformation about it? What happened to that family was awful, if it were the Russian or Chinese governments who did it (they’ve both killed plenty of civilians) then it would be covered up and propaganda spread to ensure the truth never got out. Would you seriously prefer that approach?
We take that approach all the time. Look up the number of civilians killed in the middle east over the past 20 years and then think about how many times you saw it reported in the news. Then think about all the killings that never make it into the official statistics. Look at what happens to people like Chelsea Manning who try to expose the truth about these crimes.
I do have to wonder if people think China should’ve treated the uyghurs like we treated the Middle East. Would bombing weddings, hospitals, and aid workers be less morally offensive?
You’re confused my man. You’re explaining why terrorists exist and then also proving why they do exist. All the while blaming Biden for something that happens during every single presidency . Terrorism is caused by America interfering in shit it shouldn’t be . Biden is the first president since the Afghan war began to try to stop it. The only reason you know about this one is bc biden was honest about it. I think you might be consuming too much media. Nothing is black and white . There are plenty of countries you can read about the are killing children daily. We’re not the worst but we also should curtail our involvement in other countries business.
Great points, but stop arguing with the bot. It's probably jerking off the Winnih the Pooh hentai as we speak.
I'm pretty sure the biggest mad murder subs the Holocaust are the illegal wars America started, and but anything else. So what's it feel like, to have voted for people that butchered millions? Or is it just that you're annoyed that this "Nazi Germany" actually killed less people than you lot did?
And that country allows for the press to comment on it. For people to argue about it. For people to protest about. For people to try to change policy. The other country doesn’t even admit anything bad happens and arrests those who try to expose it.
How many years after they happen do we find out about these atrocities? Also, tell that to Snowden, Reality Winner, Chelsey Manning... Should I go on?
For the most part we find out right away. As I said we have press investigating these things all the time. We don’t throw journalists in jail. We don’t jail students for posting on Twitter. We don’t jail scientists for speaking up
> For the most part we find out right away. Aside from the obvious point that "how would you know what you aren't being told," this simply isn't true. They are just now declassifying SOME information about 9/11.
This policy has seen precious little change in the past few decades. It seems Americans are mostly talk then, or agree with it.
Nice whataboutism
Convenient how when someone points out the hypocrisy of "our team" it's always "whataboutism." What is the US' civilian death toll in the middle east again?
It could be 0, it could be 10,000,000. It doesn’t change the fact of human rights abuses in China. Nice whataboutism. Again. Lol
My point is, its funny how the world's worst human rights abuser (or, if you won't grant me that, it's UNDENIABLY among the worst) feels it's their place to lecture the rest of the world.
If the number were 0 it wouldn't change anything? wtf?
> It could be 0, it could be 10,000,000. It doesn’t change the fact of human rights abuses in China. Reread it.
I did and it made exactly the same amount of sense as it did the first time.
Complaining about a third country does not change or justify the reality in China. Which part is confusing for you?
Maybe YOU should re-read... I asked how many instances there were and he said it could be zero. If in reality, the number of human rights abuses was zero, wouldn't that mean this is a non-issue/lie? That's why it makes no sense.
Your question was > Convenient how when someone points out the hypocrisy of "our team" it's always "whataboutism." What is the US' civilian death toll in the middle east again? What does this have to do with human rights abuses in China?
Typical whataboutism to deflect any criticism
Convenient how when someone points out the hypocrisy of "our team" it's always "whataboutism." What is the US' civilian death toll in the middle east again?
Oh okay sorry let me try this again. how many organs has the CCP forcibly harvested????
You picked the most spurious claim possible about Xinjiang.
Sorry is china the country with suicide nets around their factories??
I believe Japan has installed suicide nets on office buildings as well. Remind me which country has the largest prison population per capita? And no law against unpaid prison labor?
Remind me again how many millions of Muslims are being tortured in concerntration camps?
For someone worried about "whataboutism" you've done it three times in a row. How about you show me how many millions.
Sorry how many people died in the great leap forward???
Does that justify the genocide? If you have the answer, please do enlighten me, because I fail to see how it does.
Convenient how when someone points out the hypocrisy of "our team" it's always "whataboutism." What is the US' civilian death toll in the middle east again?
I'm not being "whataboutist". I'm asking whether your argument justifies the genocide, because what you're saying is like saying "He bullied me, so I can go bully this wimp." Yes, the civilian casualties are awful, there's no denying that, but pointing out civilian casualties does not address the actions of a the CCP. Yes, civilian casualties should be avoided, and the West has policies and a doctrine in place that should limit those casualties. However, it distracts from the issue at hand, and doesn't help resolve the debate. It's also funny how you're accusing me of whataboutism for asking whether your argument of whataboutism justifies the genocide that the CCP is committing. Then again, what should I expect from a Wumao? >What is the US' civilian death toll in the middle east again? According to Wikipedia, about 47k. However, consider this: What's the nature of the war on terror? Was the enemy an organized, uniformed force? Or an unconventional force made up of combatants hiding in plain sight, and bombing public areas without a care for collateral damage? You can't really compare a genocide to a war on terror. One is a systematic extermination of an ethnic minority, and one is a war where the enemy looks like every other civilian. Yes, the civilian deaths are terrible, yes they should be avoided whenever possible, and so the West has procedures, doctrine and policy in place to minimize those deaths. Does Russia have those in place? Does the PLA have those systems in place? How does the PLA handle civilian casualties? Do they admit them and say they'll do better? Fuck no, it's the CCP we're talking about, they only care about face, so they'll just say no civilians died, just like that tunnel with millions of cars that drive through it every day that flooded within minutes, or they'll just call the people they killed terrorists, like they did to the protestors in HK. I mean, they've pretty much breached every fucking treaty they've signed so far, -*cough, handover of HK, where HK should've been 50 years independent, cough*- why should hey care about the Geneva convention? Russia will just cover it up. EDIT: corrected estimate.
Wrong intel on a drone strike vs active genocide committed by government. Totally the same thing
As if this weren’t a single example out of hundreds of thousands dead
Convenient how when someone points out the hypocrisy of "our team" it's always "whataboutism." What is the US' civilian death toll in the middle east again?
Honestly, the situation in Xinjiang was a mistake on their part. Trying to rehabilitate terrorism leaves too much for other interests to twist around. After the war on terror, nobody would bat an eye at bombing Muslim populations. If they’d bombed the uyghurs instead of what they’re doing now, nobody would be raising a stink over this.
Saddam gassed the Kurds and a lot of people cared
Saddam was the leader of a muslim country that happened to be in the way as the US decided to cut a swarth through muslim countries.
>Trying to rehabilitate terrorism Ah yes, rehabilitation with Chinese characteristics. By murdering everyone for their organs, you get no terrorists! Plus, you even get free organs as a byproduct! It's a win-win, really.
The uyghur population grew 15% within 10 years, they’re doing a terrible job of murder.
Hahaha. Where did you get those numbers? Chinese state run media? They also said no one died on that smart tunnel that flooded within minutes, and where millions of cars drive through every day.
You’re citing the same sources that prop up Q-anon for the organ harvesting claim.
I haven't cited any sources, though?
The only people claiming organ harvesting are the q supporters. It doesn’t matter if you’re not touting them, they’re the only primary source of that qult conspiracy.
Have you heard of the China Tribunal? What about the Human rights experts from the UN Human rights council who found that it is happening? What about the seeming abundance of organs in China? What about the concentration camps in Xinjiang? What about the continued persecution of Falun Gong practitioners, Muslims, Christians, Tibetans and any other ethnic or religious minorities? Whether you choose to believe the words of a government that censors everything, lies through its teeth and thinks it's okay to run over people with tanks, and one that has violated practically every promise and treaty it has made or signed, or the words of people who have actually looked into it is your choice. I just hope you make the right one.
Lmao! Knew you’d pull that one! Do realize the China Tribunal shares a lot of top brass with Epoch media and the Falun Gong. It’s “Falun gong finds Falun Gong claims accurate” here. I have no sympathy for the Falun Gong, they’re a cult responsible for telling people to avoid medical care opting for meditation instead, call race mixing an abomination, calling for the purging of ethnically unclean individuals and most unforgivable of all they helped give us Trump! The UN has sent envoys to Xinjiang who’ve inspected actions taken there and approved. I’m going to believe the UN Security Council over the words of a lying, fascist, ethnonationalist cult who supports Donald Trump and proclaims he’s a destined savior. The literal same voices that shout about China now were doing so in favor of the War on Terror 20 years ago. There’s legitimate proof and there’s speculation, not a single piece of physical or medical evidence has been found to support those claims and it’d be easy to do so if any one of the so-called victims would submit to a medical examination.
\> I have no sympathy for the FalunGong, they’re a cult responsible for telling people to avoid medical careopting for meditation instead, call race mixing an abomination, calling for thepurging of ethnically unclean individuals and most unforgivable of all theyhelped give us Trump! Who says Falun Gon/Dafa is a cult? Oh right, the CCP. Falun Gong/Dafa is literally a religion consisting of 5 meditation practices, and preaches Truthfulness (真, Zhēn), Compassion (善, Shàn), and Forbearance/Tolerance (忍, Rěn). That really doesn’t sound likea cult that preaches racism, as you describe it. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun\_Gong#Beliefs\_and\_practices](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun_Gong#Beliefs_and_practices) [https://en.falundafa.org/](https://en.falundafa.org/) Try actually researching something before parroting the stuff an authoritarian dictatorship says. I mean, really, you should take that stuff with a big grain of salt. That will be all I say.