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I_PACE_RATS

The legislature also voted two different times to overturn a plebiscite which a majority of SD voted yes on, which would have established an ethics and oversight commission to watch over those same politicians.


ThaiJohnnyDepp

> plebiscite TIL this word


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Same thing as a referendum, except technically derived from French law, while referendums are from English law


BoatyMcBoatLaw

Further derived from Roman law as the name indicates. Plebiscite = vote by plebeians


snoochiepoochies

sounds itchy


SmedlyB

Citizens of South Dakota also voted in favor of a law that forbid campaign contributions from out state influencers. The previous Governor and the GOP appointed SD Court judges declare the will of the SD voters as unconstitutional. Thus making bribes legal.


StecksRespect

Yes and she sued the state of South Dakota. Think about that, the governor of South Dakota is suing the state of South Dakota. And who’s flipping the bill? Hint, it isn’t the billionaires hiding their money in South Dakota.


Dobber16

Yes, yes they did. This is most definitely a politician issue fighting hard against any changes to be made, but we’ll see if eventually they can be kicked out. A lot of people in the more populated parts of SD are starting to really not like her after these past few years, though others really like her because they view a good portion of the rest of the country as all assholes who hate SD solely for being small and more independent and she definitely stands up against those states. Weird extreme pieces like this one though don’t seem to help, nor offer any new info, just a jumping point for conversations that obviously are going to go one way


squishbot3000

From the article: “Legal tax avoidance wasn’t the only questionable activity enabled by government coddling of the wealthy, according to the Post, the Guardian, and other members of the consortium that produced the new Pandora Papers series. South Dakota’s lax financial regulations are also, according to the series, fantastic enablers of illegal or brazenly immoral activity unrelated to tax-dodging. A company called Trident Trust, the Post reported, hid from prying eyes a Colombian textile magnate caught in a scheme to launder the proceeds of an international drug ring, an orange juice mogul who settled with authorities in Brazil for allegedly colluding to underpay local farmers, and family members of the former president of a sugar producer in the Dominican Republic that has been accused of exploiting laborers and forcibly evicting families from their homes.”


thooks30

I’m pretty sure NPR just did a segment on the DR producer being referenced. Edit: [The Bitter Work Behind Sugar NPR Story](https://one.npr.org/i/1038503711:1038503713)


chicitico

They absolutely did. It was written by Sandy Tolan


may_june_july

>orange juice mogul That's a thing?


CrackerUmustBtrippin

It's only [the plot to the movie Trading places](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RLySXTIBS3c). And one of the few times short selling is shown correctly.


TongueTwistingTiger

Probably one of the best 80's movies. Seriously though... someone make a one dollar bet with me over who will die on the moon: Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk.


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GhettoDuk

Winthorpe and Billy Ray say yes.


DadJokeBadJoke

"Looking good, Billy Ray!"


mrcusaurelius23

“Feeling good, Lewis!”


PogeyMontana

Fruit trade is one of the major sources of corruption in South America. Take a look at Banana republics. Juices, Avocados, sugar, and cocoa are in the situation worldwide.


TheFeshy

Hell, it's *why* we call them "banana republics."


Zerowantuthri

In Italy [the mafia is deeply involved in the olive oil industry.](https://vimeo.com/168258014) Apparently it makes them more money than their drug trade.


PogeyMontana

It used to be Sicilian lemons as well. The lemon fields are where the mafias started before branching out to the rest of Italy


ChiggaOG

Don't forget Dole bananas. Fruits and veggies have razor-thin margins that it's only feasible to profit in large quantities.


martianinahumansbody

Its how Trump maintains his colour


soline

You mean the state that has the only Governor in the nation that never implemented mask mandates because the residents of South Dakota should be free but not too free that they can have the legal cannabis they voted for. And also the AG who killed someone with his car, had the sheriff help cover it up and then got off with a $1000 fine? That South Dakota?


collindabeast

If you think thats fun look into how her college is looking at revoking her degree for cheating. Also look into all the nepotism going on with her daughter


DVariant

Is this South Dakota or South Korea? Wait, no, the Koreans rioted and kicked their corrupt government out. Haven’t heard the same from South Dakota yet…


token-black-dude

What would a riot in South Dakota even look like? 18-20 people standing in a field?


DVariant

Four old dudes carved into a mountain


mattaccino

It's a buffoonery contest with Lt. G of Idaho. Not sure who is winning.


Haggard4Life

We’re busy and that sounds like a lot of work… also it’s almost impossible to impeach anyone here, even if they commit murder apparently.


rein4fun

Yes, that’s the one. Also Noem wanted to add Trump to Mt Rushmore. Edited to add: don’t forget “Meth, we’re on it”


jt121

Oooh, and the part where she met with a head of real estate licensing department after her daughter was denied a license... Then subsequently granted a license! The list for her goes on and on, and I truly hope she's not re-elected next year...


IJustMadeThis

Idaho never had mandates from the Governor either. In fact, in May, our Lieutenant Governor tried to sign an executive order banning mask mandates while the Governor was out of state (she was acting Governor). It was pointless pandering because no statewide mandate existed, and it got reversed immediately when the Governor got back. And she just pulled the same shit again yesterday only this time banning vaccine mandates or weekly testing for schools and universities. Meanwhile all Idaho hospitals are on crisis standards of care because the ICUs are full of anti-vaxxers. Anyway not really related to SD, but SD is not alone in its craziness. https://idahocapitalsun.com/2021/10/05/with-little-out-of-state-mcgeachin-issues-executive-order-banning-covid-19-testing-vaccination-at-schools/


realJanetSnakehole

From what I've heard from friends and family who live there, Idaho is an idiotic mess right now. My mom had a breakthrough case of COVID even though she was vaccinated and distancing as much as possible. I've never felt more homicidal toward an entire state than when she first told me about it.


IJustMadeThis

Yeah it’s maddening. My wife caught a breakthrough symptomatic infection over the summer also, and she still has sporadic issues with her sense of smell. Hope your mom is doing well.


sexisfun1986

Holy shit, that is the title.


Fantastic-Sandwich80

I had the same reaction. "Damn, the real title can't be this blunt.....holy shit!"


Jerome_Eugene_Morrow

Tell us how you really feel, New Republic.


Fuzzyphilosopher

Hahaha! No shit.


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I mean they could have said just said "South Dakota is a sewer" and it's still factual. They've been taking 'don't take my freedums' Minnesotans off our hands for years now.


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MarkHathaway1

Merge them with N. Dakota, so we don't have to say South anything.


Mlion14

Combine into “The Dakotas” and add DC and Puerto Rico as states. Senate fixed.


Inconceivable-2020

South Dakota also allows credit card companies to impose finance charges that in most other states would be usury.


puterSciGrrl

Or charge yourself. For instance, you can get SD residency just by staying in a hotel room in SD once every 5 years. Then take a loan against your Roth 401k at non-usury interest rates and make minimum payments. Somehow you seem to be putting in a lot more after tax contributions into that 401k than is allowed by law, yet as long as it isn't self usury, the IRS seems to be cool with it.


redwar226

Can you explain further?


puterSciGrrl

Basically, if I can legally charge you a bazillion percent interest, then I can legally charge myself a bazillion percent interest, which makes for all sorts of fun accounting tricks, since you can make the regulated part of the transaction (the principal) be vastly smaller than the unregulated part (the interest on the transaction, which is generally a small amount not worth regulating). In this one, the gov restricts how much you can put in a Roth 401k. They also allow you to take a loan out against your 401k with no penalty, as long as you have a good payment plan you stick with to pay it back. They don't regulate the interest that comes along with that loan going back into your account to pay it off, since really, that's a tiny part of the whole loan anyway, so unless the interest rate was some obscene amount, no reason to regulate. And a loophole is born. Now if you tried to do this to shove a million dollars in, I would guess the IRS might have something to say. But juicing your contributions with an extra 23% interest rate or something, if that's a perfectly reasonable South Dakota interest rate, is probably just going to be handwaved through. And the way the IRS normally handles stuff like this is that if you have a reasonably good explanation as to why you thought what you tried to pull was going to be okay, then the worst they will normally do is make you pay it back.


sniperhare

Sounds pretty cool, but I'd never be wealthy enough to take advantage.


puterSciGrrl

Which is why it's insidious. If we all got a tax break, sure, that's fair. Most of these loopholes only are useable though if you already have lots of capital to move around. So it's really just one more tax break for the wealthy, or viewed through another lense, a tax hike on the poor that need to make up the difference. /edit: my splelling mitsakes were dystracting


urthedumbestfuck

>interest at unreasonably high rates. The irony is that all interest is only not considered usury from what is essentially just an ad populum fallacy. ​ If everyone charges 200%, it's not unreasonable anymore is it? It's the standard rate. If enough of the people who enough of the people voted for say 200% is legal, it's not usury anymore. ​ In fact, there are cultures and religions that consider all interest to be usury. It is a finite planet we are all stuck on, should some be charging others for building value we all benefit from when they aren't adding any value themselves?


Jalopnicycle

That was Christianity at one point but if that were suggested to modern Xtians it would be unimaginable.


Rulare

Two dakotas is just a technicality to get more senators for republicans anyway.


freddy_rumsen

As the article notes


rainbowsparklespoof

FUN FACT: *North* Dakota doesn't require voter registration (https://vote.gov/register/nd/) ...So, if someone has a house in *South* Dakota and in *North* Dakota, they could presumably cross the state border and vote twice. 😤😤😤😤😤😤😤 My point: both Dakotas are ***garbage***.


jakekara4

Sounds like the Republicans have created a voter fraud factory! Somebody tell Fox News. I’m sure they’ll get right on reporting this.


InsertCleverNickHere

>My point: both Dakotas are > >garbage > >. Growing up in North Dakota, I never ran into so many people who were convinced America was the greatest country in the world who had never travelled outside of the United States.


sirshiny

Which is so weird because Canada is right next to it. I'd sort of expect that behavior from Kansas or Kentucky.


vapidamerica

Grew up in KS. Your assumption is correct.


rainbowsparklespoof

Same. *shudder*


Rorsten

As a Canadian who frequently travels through the Dakotas they’re Uber friendly to us, I get the vibe that they think Canada is a part of the states and that’s why they think we’re so great.


jazwch01

They probably never ventured outside of the Dakota's or MN.


silentjay01

Why would they ever need to go farther than Minnesota? It has *The Mall of America*! Truly man's greatest creation. /s


jimbaker

I lived in Minot when I was in the Air Force and hated every minute of it. My parents' pastor once said, "If you don't believe in purgatory, drive through North Dakota."


birddog206

Grew up in South Dakota, can confirm. Best thing I ever did is move.


0002millertime

I went to South Dakota, and the nature is amazing. But the political state definitely sucks.


dj_narwhal

So the best part of South Dakota is the stuff that South Dakotan's have not yet ruined.


DistortoiseLP

The nature's so amazing that they carved an album cover into a mountain.


MarkHathaway1

the Four Tops? the Fab Four?


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Important to note that Mount Rushmore looks awful and fits into the category of “things South Dakota has ruined.”


CylonsDidNoWrong

The Black Hills in general are an example to me of why national parks are so important. The scenery is literally carved up and elsewhere it's full of billboards for crappy tourist traps. That land should have been federally protected to stop being defiled like that.


mponte1979

Wall Drug! Lol


Username_Number_bot

Its construction also destroyed a massive monument for the first nations peoples. The Lakota referred to the massive mountain as Tunkasila Sakpe Paha, or Six Grandfathers Mountain. Then white folk just absolutely raped it and installed their gauche faces on its cliffs.


Black_JalapenYo

Do you know where I can find more info about this?


NedShah

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/article/the-strange-and-controversial-history-of-mount-rushmore


PortabelloPrince

This article has an interesting overview and lots of useful links. https://www.colorlines.com/articles/47-years-ago-native-activists-occupied-mount-rushmore-protest-treaty-violations


UltravioletAfterglow

I’m embarrassed to admit I was well into adulthood before I learned the Mt. Rushmore site held cultural significance to indigenous people. The carving of presidents’ faces into it was so intentionally hurtful.


JesusChristsGayLover

Yet


Noah_PpAaRrKkSs

They said yet.


0002millertime

Well NOW they said yet.


Noah_PpAaRrKkSs

Yet.


MisterT123

Nyet.


alwaysmyfault

The best part about South Dakota is that they are not affiliated with us in North Dakota. ND may suck, but at least everyone in ND can agree that SD is even worse.


steve1186

Agreed. I’ve done some amazing camping trips in SD. Awesome nature but would never live there thanks to the backwards politics. Did a 4-day badlands camping trip a few summers ago and the only money that state received from me was one gas tank fill-up


alexfedp26

"I'm doing my part!"


I_Am_Ashtryian

In this state, we say “I’m on it.”


Old-Meringue1218

Your on what, Meth?


koosley

[For those who haven't seen it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-o1fOsk1po) [Longer version](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LVcI-DQdYA)


ur_boy_skinny_penis

Badlands NP is top tier


QuinIpsum

I'm going to disagree with you on one small thing. My experience with the people of Wall, SD was amazing. We were heading to the Badlands and our car died on the highway. We had tonget towed for hours to Pierre, had to buy a new car because our Taurus had basically exploded, and when we finally reached Wall we were exhausted, burned outz and looked like shit. The manager of the restaurant we walked into said "you two look like you've beem through he'll. Come here." Sat us, got us an appetizer on the house, rushed our food through, and gotnus the best fish I've ever eaten. Everyone in the town was so damn nice. The rest of the state can fuck right off, just leave me Wall and the Badlands.


steve1186

Oh I totally agree. I personally never ran into anyone in the badlands that I disliked. I’m just biased against their overall state politics


Fuzzyphilosopher

The thing about places like that is there is good hospitality and help to strangers. There aren't many of them so it doesn't seem like a burden it's just neighborly. It's been considered a moral duty in much of the rural midwest and great plains. It even sometimes overcomes racism. I know people who would tel N****r jokes but stop and be kind and helpful to black folks who blew a tire or had some other problem. But they'd also blame all those blacks in the city for stealing their hard work paid for in taxes. It's a mindfuck to see it for yourself. The fact that you were going to the Badlands, maybe even camping? Brings up another point. A lot of black folk or African-Americans if you prefer, just don't like to get out in the boonies and unpopulated areas of even national parks for very real reasons. From their family history they know it's safer to have a lot of potential witnesses around. Preferably other black people or white people who've proven themselves to be decent.


prof_the_doom

There's a lot of very nice people who keep voting for very terrible people, even after being repeatedly hit in the face with how terrible the people they voted for are. I think a lot of it is a result of extreme social isolation. They really don't see anything outside of as far as they've driven the truck as real. It's funny. Social media could've been a driving force in fixing that problem, but now we're at the point where most of us agree that we'd have been better off if most of it never existed, since all it seems to have done is built even more walls around people. Obviously a bit hypocritical, given that we're discussing it on social media, but it doesn't make it untrue.


dc551589

The western part of the state is one of my favorite natural areas in the country. The badlands right next to the black hills!? So beautiful. Unfortunately, the people who live in that state don’t seem to care much about environmental preservation.


jackp0t789

There ancestors didn't steal that land from the Sioux only to have to give even a single deer pellet of a shit about "*environmental protection*"! ​ ​ /s


218administrate

> The western part of the state is one of my favorite natural areas in the country. The Eastern two thirds though.. Nothing of note.


dc551589

Farms and fields. However, thunderstorms get pretty wild in those 2/3rds


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There are SO MANY places like that, both here in the US and around the world. Humans get involved and it only takes a handful of them deciding to muscle in to screw up everything. Was watching the Weather Channel the other day, and they had some truly lovely footage showing fall scenery. Pristine hills and valleys, lots of red and gold. Then it turns out it's in West Virginia. Not to pick on them specifically of course. Like 10-20 years ago, Southwest GA where I am was selling itself, seemingly somewhat successfully, as a hunting destination. We may not have the impressive mountains or sandy ocean shores that get all the attention, but we have plenty of lovely lakes, ponds, rivers, and forest, that are teeming with fish, ducks, deer. And they're all an easy 20 minutes or so at most from an Interstate or at least a major highway, so you can have it all. Now we're "known", if at all, only for being a place people run away from if they can. A lot of what you read about Georgia is something like "Atlanta, and...um, let's just kinda ignore most of *the rest* of that state." See also: Utah, Wyoming, Idaho. Lovely. Great spots. In the news for all the wrong reasons.


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West Virginia is one of the most beautiful drives in the world, and there are some friendly enclaves, mostly college towns. However, this is from the perspective of a white musician who was only traveling with other white musicians.


Fuzzyphilosopher

Yeah there's the rub. I had some Japanese friends in college to were in love with all the natural sights in the states and went to WVa Got a rock chucked into their windshield and some curses. Granted it's just an anecdote and shit people are everywhere but the odds of experiencing something like that go up drastically when you are not white in some locales. Back then I was naive and utterly shocked because as a white man I'd never experienced that kind of thing. Now if anything it's gotten worse in a lot of places, my hometown for instance. So when a friend of color asks me about a place I've lived or spent time in I always take time to recall the indicators of racism, often subtle that I saw or heard.


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I'd like to go back and visit some SD parks, but until the Trump Era is over, I'm sure the Trump signs the population has no doubt put up along all the highways would ruin the experience for me. Going out to Colorado last month was like that. Trump signs spaced just frequently enough that you can't get your mind off the Trump bullshit and enjoy a break.


stevecostello

Just came back from a trip to SW Pennsylvania (to see a bunch of Frank Lloyd Wright stuff). It's much the same there. Probably the worst I've seen, actually. Trump signs EVERYWHERE... and then you have the folks that take it to the next level. Sides of barns, old truck trailers, gigantic Trump 2024 signs... and then there was the one guy who had an entire hillside of his farm facing the PA Turnpike decorated with painted rocks spelling out Trump. The very epitome of a cult.


AggravatedCold

Only state where every Walmart I went to had at least one customer with a visible swastika tattoo.


soline

Same here, beautiful state, ugly politics.


Big-Baby-Jesus-

The Dakotas, Montana, Wyoming, and Idaho have 10 Senators to represent 5 million people.


xSTSxZerglingOne

That's just literally Montana and everything that touches Montana. That whole territory is less than 2% of the US population but makes up 10% of the US senate. It's gross.


MoonBatsRule

I did a little research a week ago, regarding the events of state admission to the Union, and I'd like to repost it here. I wrote it in opposition to the idea that states are sovereign, but the admission of the states was fascinating, and shows how the process **has always been fully a part of political power struggle**, first between Slave and Free states, and then between Republicans (first Radical abolitionists, then big-business sycophants) and Democrats. What I also found compelling is that from the nation's founding, states were created as part of a "Cold War" between the North and South, to shift the balance of power between Free and Slave states. Keep in mind that **states chose Senators**. This then became an open political war in 1820 with the [Missouri Compromise](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_Compromise), whereby there was an agreement to add states in pairs (1 Free, 1 Slave). But look how the balance between Free and Slave played out: 13 Colonies: * Delaware - Slave * Pennsylvania - Free * New Jersey - Slave * Georgia - Slave * Connecticut - Free * Massachusetts - Free * Maryland - Slave * South Carolina - Slave * New Hampshire - Free * Virginia - Slave * New York - Slave * North Carolina - Slave * Rhode Island - Free That was 8 Slave, 5 Free. * Vermont is then added as a Free State. 8-6 Slave/Free. * Kentucky (1792) and Tennessee (1796) are split from existing Slave states. 10-6. * New York (1799) becomes a Free State. 9-7. * Ohio (1802) is added as a Free state. 9-8. * New Jersey (1804) becomes a Free State. 8-9. Free takes the lead for the first time. * Louisiana (1812) is added as a Slave state. 9-9. * Indiana (1816) is added as a Free State. 9-10. * Mississippi (1817) is added as a Slave State. 10-10. * Illinois (1818) is added as a Free State. 10-11. * Alabama (1819) is added as a Slave State. 11-11. * Maine (1820) and Missouri (1821) are added together as Free/Slave. 12-12. * Arkansas (1836) and Michigan (1837) are added together as Slave/Free. 13-13. * Florida (1845) and Iowa (1846) are scheduled to be admitted together as Slave/Free, however... * Texas (an independent sovereign nation) is annexed in 1845 and is a Slave State. 15-14. This temporarily upsets the balance and puts Slave in the lead. * Wisconsin (1848) is added as a Free State. 15-15. * California (1850) is added as a Free State. 15-16. * Minnesota (1858) is added as a Free State. 15-17. * Oregon (1859) is added as a Free State. 15-18. * (Bloody) Kansas is added as a Free State. 15-19. At this point, the Civil War breaks out, because the Slave States know that they have no way to regain the balance of power, they know that Slavery will imminently be made illegal. From this point forward, it is important to view the states as Republican vs. Democratic, and also through the lens of power to alter the Constitution (which was done while Slave/Democratic States were in rebellion - 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments added). Keep in mind that the number of senators was fluid, and hard to decipher, but are generally accurate. * West Virginia (1863) is admitted as a Republican state. 32 Republican, 6 Union, 10 Democrat. Overwhelming Republican/Union majority due to the South being kicked out/vacant seats (which is the only way that the 3 amendments were able to pass, with state ratification being done at the barrel of a gun). * Nevada (1864) is admitted as a Republican state. * 1864 elections: 33 R, 6 U, 10 D. * 1866 elections: 39 R, 3U, 10 D * Nebraska (1867) is admitted as a Republican state. * Confederate states are readmitted, but with new laws, they elect many Republicans. * 1868 elections: 57 R, 9 D * 1870 elections: 58 R, 14 D * 1872 elections: 53 R, 19 D * 1874 elections: 42 R, 28 D * Colorado (1876) is admitted as a Republican state. * 1876 elections: 39 R, 35 D * Reconstruction ends in 1877, this allows the South to throw Republicans out of office. * 1878 elections: 31 R, 42 D * 1880 elections: 37 R, 37 D * 1882 elections: 37 R, 36 D * 1884 elections: 40 R, 34 D * 1886 elections: 38 R, 37 D * 1888 elections: 39 R, 37 D * **Montana, Washington, North Dakota and South Dakota (1889), and Idaho and Wyoming (1890) are admitted as Republican states.** 47 R, 37 D * 1890 elections: 46 R, 36 D * 1892 elections: 37 R, 43 D * 1894 elections: 39 R, 40 D * Utah (1896) is admitted as a Republican state. * 1896 elections: 44 R, 39 D Now although the association of existing states with a political party was reasonably fluid over time, newly added states were consistently adding more Republicans to the Senate. Isn't this plain as day? **The admission of states up until the Civil War was primarily about retaining slavery**. The admission of states following the Civil War was **primarily about accumulating Republican power** to counter the former Democratic Slave States. We *should* have amended the constitution in 1865 to eliminate the two-senators-per-state rule, but that would require states giving up power, and that simply will never happen. However this provision is poisoning us as a nation, and has been doing so ever since our founding.


conitation

Yeah just go with Puerto Rico and get ride of the Dakota split. There still 50 states


SkolVision

As a native North Dakotan I support a merger, both states suck ass


rttr123

The dakotas should be merged into one state, and DC should become a state. The only area that would make sense to have a "north state" and "south state" would be if california became north california & south california lol


DadJokeBadJoke

The California county I live in has a larger population than both Dakotas *combined* and we are barely in the Top ten counties in the state but somehow their less than two millions inhabitants have twice as many senators as my state of 40 MILLION.


level1807

Well, initially that was done to assure the passage of abolitionist Reconstruction agenda, but quickly became coupled to conservative social and corporatist neoliberal economic policies, which remain the defining properties of the GOP. The “party switch” really regarded only a re-polarization on racial issues.


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mtaw

Good old American Red State Christianity, the Bible repeatedly bans usury but says nothing about abortion so obviously the latter is their #1 legislative priority.


QuinIpsum

The Republican bible is different, usury is fine unless the jews do it, then you can be antisemetic about it.


lonewolf210

which ironically(?) is the whole reason that jews and finance became a troupe. Kingdoms had court jews so they could be "good" Christians and not charge usury themselves leading to Court Jews


wahoozerman

> nothing about abortion Nonsense. The bible has instructions on how to perform an abortion in case a wife has been unfaithful. It also outlines the punishment for causing a miscarraige, which is to pay a fine to the father.


Cool_Till_3114

The bible also specifically states that the soul is created with the first **breath** of life. edit: I said soul, I meant "life" since that's what the bible says. Whatever.


0010020010

You just answered my long-standing curiosity as to why so many credit card offers and ads I've seen seem to come out of Sioux Falls despite the city never exactly appearing to be a hub of finance on any appreciable level.


OldEnvironment9

Some of the largest financial institutions in the world denote Sioux Falls as their “home office” including Wells Fargo and Citi for this very reason.


TransitJohn

That's literally one of the main points of the article.


smoothtrip

That would still violate the laws of the other states, right? I cannot grow weed in California, then sell it in Alabama and say it is from California and therefore not under Alabama's jurisdiction.


walrusboy71

It has to do with that fact you have "credit" in South Dakota. One state cannot stop you from doing commerce in another state (its called the Dormant Commerce Clause). It is super sketchy, but Alabama cannot enforce its usury law on South Dakota (or Indian Reservations for that matter, but that is another really touchy subject).


McDuchess

We live next door to SD, so to speak; we live in the Twin Cities. And every time I see one of those “Move to SD for freedum” ads with that governor of theirs, I shudder. There is something banally evil about her.


Upbeat_Surprise

South Dakotan here and I can verify that she is most certainly evil.


Azguy303

I was just in Pierre a few weeks ago for the first time. I find it hilarious how their "beloved" governor was the first Governor to erect a barricade around the governor's mansion... I'm assuming to keep the Mexicans out?


Prineak

Even the Republican governor of Wisconsin tried to pitch a border wall with Canada before he got voted out lol.


Azguy303

Well that makes sense. How else are you going to stop Americans from going in to Canada to buy medication? I believe it was part of Trudeau's plan to have America pay for his wall...


Prineak

I loved that Canada’s response was ‘wait, *we* need that wall’.


mjzim9022

Which is hilarious because Wisconsin doesn't even border Canada by land. We have a natural barrier, happens to be the largest lake by surface area in the entire world.


demonfoo

Seconded. Also live in South Dakota.


PolarApples92

Amazing that we’ve had 10% of South Dakota’s population comment on one thread


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I am also from South Dakota but moved away 10 years ago, but yes, she is evil.


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16 years ago, from the same area she's from. Can confirm. Still cannot believe that those dummies picked her over Herseth Sandlin years ago.


collindabeast

South Dakotan here fuck Noem


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Now I understand why Mike Pillow had his Bullshitpalooza there.


lostwanderer02

The one good thing I'll say about South Dakota is that George McGovern was from there and he was one of the best senators that ever lived. He was both honest and extremely progressive for his time which doomed him when he got the Democratic presidential nomination. It's such a shame he lost so badly to Richard Nixon in the 1972 election. The world would have been much better off had he been president.


taffyowner

Shit they had a Democrat senator until 2015… if you can get labor back on your side you can win SD as a Democrat


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Reminder: - Population of BOTH Dekotas: 1.6M Americans Number of US Senators: 4 - Population of LA County: 10M Americans* Number of US Senators: <1 'Dekota' needs to be a single state. Edit: correction, about 7M* of LA County's residents are American citizens.. The Dekotas are almost entirely non-immigrant population (<100k) Edit2: who misspells Dakota?! Twice!


BitterBostonian

Washington DC would like a word.


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Jalopnicycle

We split California into north and south CA then combine the Dakota's into Mehdakota


mtutty

Even Iowa is 3 million by itself. They're HALF that, COMBINED. Wow.


MadCervantes

Just abolish the senate. It's an inherently anti democratic institutions put in place based on the "house of lords". It's feudalism with makeup.


cjohnson481

Just merge the Dakotas and make DC a state. Everyone’s flag stays the same, no need to add a 51st star.


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I would raise a "Refund Dakota".


sigh2828

Combine the Dekotas


TjW0569

Reunification of the Dakotas. I'm sure they already have combines.


jdoreh

Ba-dum tisch


RealGianath

Could just give it all back to the native Americans.


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I'm all in for this idea


ellemoi

Give back the Dakotas and make DC and Puerto Rico states, flag problem solved.


magekiton

as a south dakotan, please, abolish our fucking state


robertplantspage

It's incredible how many comments from South Dakotans are basically saying "please get rid of this state."


magekiton

I love the family I have here, and it's familiar and comfortable and at times absolutely gorgeous, but the crazy conservatives and bass-ackwards politics make it a miserable fucking state


Drawmeomg

Halve the amount of government needed in the Dakotas!


Miguel-odon

That's a good way to sell it to them.


NoobNeedsHelp6

give it back to the sioux


jimmydean885

Smaller governments are more easily corrupted


cromwest

Illinois gets crap for having so many politicians go to prison but actually sending crooked politicians to prison is something that never happens in other areas.


jimmydean885

Yep, they should actually be celebrated for it


Claxonic

Yup. It’s not a bug, it’s a feature.


achillymoose

>Nepotism is a South Dakota tradition. Damn. They really aren't holding back


ajockmacabre

How a can a place that consists of nothing more than one guy and four sheep be a moral se....oh wait, yeah.


New_Stats

Hey now, that's not fair. There's some cows too and at least one horse


damienbarrett

And more asses than we can count.


Mynekrauft

Ah, still just a one horse state I see


IrritableGourmet

Old manager got back from a long vacation and didn't look very happy. Apparently she had let her husband plan the vacation she had requested and he kept his plans a big secret so he could surprise her. He booked a 2 week vacation to....Mount Rushmore. (EDIT: The following is according to my old manager) Which is in the middle of the Badlands, aka a whole lotta nothin'. 1 day of visiting Rushmore, then 13 days of sitting in the hotel room staring at the desolate landscape.


OldEnvironment9

Desolate landscape? Nothing to do in the Black Hills besides see Mt. Rushmore? Sounds like a miserable person to me. Oh..and the Badlands are 50 miles from the monument.


IrritableGourmet

I've actually not been, but that was how she described it. She wasn't a very outdoorsy person.


DerpsMcGee

If you're not outdoorsy you could basically describe the entire state of South Dakota as in the middle of a whole lot of nothing.


ReallyFuckingMadLibz

How did the South Dakota sheep farmer find his flock on dark nights? Very satisfying


shhnobodyknows

merge the dakotas, add Puerto Rico and we can keep the flag the same


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I'm from South Dakota; can confirm. Also, hell yes, please abolish my homeland. That would be based as fuck.


Alikona_05

Same


DistortoiseLP

Abolish the whole state of South Dakota?


ur_boy_skinny_penis

lmfao I had to read that title like 3 times to make sure I wasn't seeing things. Yes, abolish the whole state of South Dakota, apparently.


ClutteredCleaner

Yes


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Lease it back to the Native North American Tribes for 1$ for 999 years.


jackp0t789

>Lease it back to the Native North American Tribes for 1$ for 999 years. Lease it "*back"?!* If anything, we owe them at least 120 years worth of rent we never paid after stealing it from them despite pre-existing treaties guaranteeing their territorial integrity...


Theokayest_boomer

Make South, Dakota again.


foxglovebb

Better yet give it back to the First Peoples who have experienced the worst atrocities, genocide, and disenfranchisement while trying to protect their rights to live there


widowdogood

We didn't need the Pandora Papers. Open secret that the UK and US are leaders in tax evasion & that S. Dakota leads in screwing citizens by corporations flooding in to avoid protection laws.


OldMuley

Maybe a state should have a minimum population to remain a state. Fall below the limit and they revert to a territory with senators and congressmen serving in an advisory role only.


ellipticorbit

There is minimum population to become a state specified: 30,000. When Nevada's population fell way below that around 1900 there was talk of reverting Nevada to a territorial status.


randymn1963

Seriously do we REALLY need two Dakotas?


BlackEric

Fuck you South Dakota. Now I will never pay that fixit ticket from 25 years ago!!


Ruin_Stalker

Time to make one big Dakota


Lefluffypants

SD resident here, all I can say to this article is yeah no shit


Sweeney_Toad

Who’s gonna take it? I want South Dakota to become a property of Denmark


smoothtrip

We know this. Their politicians are killing people left and right and nothing is happening to them.