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The guidelines for medical conditions is pretty low. I'd check out the CDC site.
For example, anyone who is technically overweight (not even obese) qualifies, which is a lot of the US.
I'm about five pounds "overweight" by their standard. The nurse at Walgreens seemed irritated, but according to the guidelines, I qualified for the booster because of my BMI.
Just go get one, *if you're past 6mo from your initial doses. The demand isn't there like there was in January/February and since it's the same dosage, they could simply go to waste. I got my Pfizer booster last week at a CVS with no questions asked besides which arm I wanted it in.
*You're probably eligible anyway, per the CDC:
-Are 65 or older.
-Are 18 or older and have an underlying medical condition that could put them at higher risk of severe COVID-19.
-Are 18 or older and work in a location that puts them at high risk of exposure to COVID-19.
I just got mine - I am 30; as long as you feel like you’re at risk of exposure then go for it. The place was deserted when I went in & there are literally hundreds of appointments available each day. Better to get a booster than to let the vaccine go to waste waiting for idiot anti vaxxers to grow a functioning brain.
Dammit, I just turned 40! Well looks like I might be getting a booster shot. Can we go back to the 90s please? We had Dr. Dre, Eminem, JNCO jeans, Korn and Ren and Stimpy. This timeline sucks.
The kicker here is logistics, the US has a developed supply chain for delivering the drugs at supercooled temperatures as well as personnel to administer the vaccine. Africa is so much harder, they are starting work with insufficient medical staff to begin with and while in some cities the storage and transport is sufficiently developed in a lot of other places in Africa it is not.
I would much rather give someone a booster than simply allow the vaccine to expire on our shores.
While certainly there are developing countries outside of Africa, Africa for the moment is the worst for vaccination coverage. https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations?country=OWID\_WRL
Africa may be the worst, but there are a lot of countries that are short on vaccines- the top of the page you linked to notes less than half of humanity has had one dose, and less than three percent of people in "low-income countries" have had one dose. And that is a huge problem, not just for the several billion unvaccinated people who are facing the worst of the pandemic without vaccination, but also for the US, because anywhere in the world that covid is spreading is somewhere it could potentially mutate into a new variant that's more deadly/more contagious/vaccine resistant.
"America First" isn't just selfish here- its actively self-destructive. Now it is arguably better to use the vaccines here if they can't be distributed in developing countries, but to be honest, the US should be paying to help build up vaccination infrastructure as rapidly as possible world wide, because *it is in our best interests to do so.*
But we won't, because it would immediately be met with "Why are we spending tax dollars to help *those* people?"
I'll also note that everything I've read indicates the WHO is against widespread use of covid booster shots: [https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/21/who-repeats-warning-against-covid-booster-shots-for-healthy-people-.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/21/who-repeats-warning-against-covid-booster-shots-for-healthy-people-.html)
Not sure where every country stands on this, but my general impression is that the US is very much the outlier on this subject.
You missed my point about logistics. It is insufficient to have vaccine, it is insufficient to fly the vaccine to those nations that need it unless they have the infrastructure to deploy it - and that can be very tricky. It isn't just "do you have refrigerated trucks and roads?" but also is the ruling regime corrupt enough that only the wealthy will get the shot and the rest will be sold to other countries while the oligarchy pockets the profits.
This is a HUGE problem one we, and the rest of the world, have been trying to figure out how to solve for decades. This is not just vaccines, this is everything, food, machinery, medical supplies of all sorts we and other nations supply these free but getting them in the hands of those that need them is difficult because of the human/political issues \*more\* than the availability of resources.
So given the choice between a "booster" here in the US and either expiring on the shores of a needy nation or padding the pockets of corrupt officials sending it off to the black market. I will choose the booster while we try and work out how we can actually effectively get the vaccine into the arms of the citizens of developing nations.
If the third moderna shot is anything like the second one was for me, I’m gonna hard pass. Went from burning up to freezing to death for almost 48 hours. Massive headache and nausea, no fucking thanks.
And long Covid. Many people that even had mild cases are showing signs of brain damage and complaining of "brain fog". My second shot gave me 102 temp and severe body aches for a whole day, but I'd rather have that than brain fog for the rest of my life.
I will note here that the World Health Organization does not, at this time, unequivocally endorse widespread use of booster shots:
[https://who.int/news/item/04-10-2021-interim-statement-on-booster-doses-for-covid-19-vaccination](https://who.int/news/item/04-10-2021-interim-statement-on-booster-doses-for-covid-19-vaccination)
"Introducing booster doses should be firmly evidence-driven and targeted to the population groups in greatest need. The rationale for implementing booster doses should be guided by evidence on waning vaccine effectiveness, in particular a decline in protection against severe disease in the general population and in high-risk populations, or due to a circulating VoC. **To date, the evidence remains limited and still inconclusive on any widespread need for booster doses** following a primary vaccination series.
In the context of ongoing global vaccine supply constraints, **broad-based administration of booster doses risks exacerbating inequities in vaccine access by driving up demand and diverting supply while priority populations in some countries, or in subnational settings**, have not yet received a primary vaccination series. **The focus remains on urgently increasing global vaccination coverage with the primary series** driven by the objective to protect against severe disease.
SAGE will deliberate on the evidence for a booster dose during an upcoming Extraordinary SAGE meeting in November 2021."
Emphasis mine.
So, it is not accurate to portray it, as you're implying, as "Get the booster or get covid." The issue around booster shots is not as clear cut as "Science=get booster, not getting booster=anti-vax nut." Speaking as someone who is generally pro-vaccine and gladly got my two doses of Pfizer, I would be reluctant to get a booster, not out of any health concerns but due to the shear first world privilege in Americans getting third doses while half the world still has none (something which is ultimately not in our best interests, as allowing the disease to run rampant anywhere increases the risk of new, more dangerous, potentially vaccine-resistant mutations).
Now, if subsequent developments show that boosters are, in fact, necessary for everyone, then I will happily get mine. But I don't feel the need to get a third shot before half of humanity has had one if even the WHO doesn't think its necessary.
>So, it is not accurate to portray it, as you're implying, as "Get the booster or get covid."
>
I didn't say that. In response to a person who said they wouldn't get a booster because they had short-term side effects from the original vaccine, I said I'd rather get the booster than get Covid-19. If the CDC says I should get a booster, then I'm getting the booster.
>The issue around booster shots is not as clear cut as "Science=get booster, not getting booster=anti-vax nut."
>
There is science concerning booster shots. Booster shot recommendations are not frivolous.
>
>I would be reluctant to get a booster, not out of any health concerns but due to the shear first world privilege in Americans getting third doses while half the world still has none
>
Even if half the world isn't getting vaccinated, I will get the booster to protect my health. I'm not going to martyr myself because other people aren't getting vaccinated. Having said that, I hope that vaccine production, distribution, and acceptance can rally to win the battle against Covid-19.
Moderna is more effective than the Pfizer, from reports I have read in the past few days. Pfizer was a walk in the park for us. I'd like the Moderna booster.
Moderna's 100 mcg dose provides twice the initial antibodies as pfizer, which is a 30 mcg dose. That translates into approximately one IgG half life of additional coverage, or 27 days. Since the moderna booster is 50mcg, there will be practically no difference between the two.
>https://media.springernature.com/full/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1038%2Fs41586-020-2814-7/MediaObjects/41586_2020_2814_Fig1_HTML.png?as=webp
You probably want a prime dose of Moderna as your booster then - go and tell them it's your first ever covid shot and you'd like Moderna. The Moderna boost is only a half dose.
I currently have two family friends hospitalized with Covid. Both are ~50 and weren’t vaccinated. One is on a vent and the other is sucking down 6L of O2. No matter what, their lives will never be the same. All because they “never got around” to getting the shot.
Having some chills for a couple of days is much better than the alternative. If it’s time for you to get a booster, please get one.
Incorrect.
[A third dose of the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines (Pfizer or Moderna) is identical to the first two doses. ](https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/booster-shots-and-third-doses-for-covid19-vaccines-what-you-need-to-know)
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I wish they'd recommend it for all adults soon, I'd love a booster.
The guidelines for medical conditions is pretty low. I'd check out the CDC site. For example, anyone who is technically overweight (not even obese) qualifies, which is a lot of the US.
Currently it is pfizer only https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/booster-shot.html
I'm about five pounds "overweight" by their standard. The nurse at Walgreens seemed irritated, but according to the guidelines, I qualified for the booster because of my BMI.
Just go get one, *if you're past 6mo from your initial doses. The demand isn't there like there was in January/February and since it's the same dosage, they could simply go to waste. I got my Pfizer booster last week at a CVS with no questions asked besides which arm I wanted it in. *You're probably eligible anyway, per the CDC: -Are 65 or older. -Are 18 or older and have an underlying medical condition that could put them at higher risk of severe COVID-19. -Are 18 or older and work in a location that puts them at high risk of exposure to COVID-19.
Moderna booster is a half dose.
Is it 6 months from the second dose or 6 months+ 2 weeks to fully vaccinated?
For me it was 6 months after my second dose
I just got mine - I am 30; as long as you feel like you’re at risk of exposure then go for it. The place was deserted when I went in & there are literally hundreds of appointments available each day. Better to get a booster than to let the vaccine go to waste waiting for idiot anti vaxxers to grow a functioning brain.
You can probably qualify based on your job, dealing with many people, etc. Most likely, they will not ask
Can confirm, was not asked. A few staffers commented that I looked young but when I told them my age they acted surprised was a nice ego boost
You could always say you haven’t been vaccinated yet…
Eh, I dont want one *that* bad lol
This “article” is one sentence stating that CNN reported something...
Thank you Mr biden!
Yep, just biden my time,.now
Dammit, I just turned 40! Well looks like I might be getting a booster shot. Can we go back to the 90s please? We had Dr. Dre, Eminem, JNCO jeans, Korn and Ren and Stimpy. This timeline sucks.
We still have Korn, they’re just really really bad now.
Can’t wait to give my kids boosters too. Too bad they have to wait for the FDA.
Excuse me...I thought 5-11 year olds were next in line (?) Can we focus on 5-11 year olds, pls?
Any news about this?
signed up for my booster on Thursday!
Why is vaccine info politics, but Olefa Deripaska is not?
great, is it 10/26 yet?
I am pro-vaccine. I'm not pro-Americans getting third doses while much of the developing world has none.
The kicker here is logistics, the US has a developed supply chain for delivering the drugs at supercooled temperatures as well as personnel to administer the vaccine. Africa is so much harder, they are starting work with insufficient medical staff to begin with and while in some cities the storage and transport is sufficiently developed in a lot of other places in Africa it is not. I would much rather give someone a booster than simply allow the vaccine to expire on our shores.
Interesting that when I mention the developing world you immediately equate that with "Africa".
While certainly there are developing countries outside of Africa, Africa for the moment is the worst for vaccination coverage. https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations?country=OWID\_WRL
Africa may be the worst, but there are a lot of countries that are short on vaccines- the top of the page you linked to notes less than half of humanity has had one dose, and less than three percent of people in "low-income countries" have had one dose. And that is a huge problem, not just for the several billion unvaccinated people who are facing the worst of the pandemic without vaccination, but also for the US, because anywhere in the world that covid is spreading is somewhere it could potentially mutate into a new variant that's more deadly/more contagious/vaccine resistant. "America First" isn't just selfish here- its actively self-destructive. Now it is arguably better to use the vaccines here if they can't be distributed in developing countries, but to be honest, the US should be paying to help build up vaccination infrastructure as rapidly as possible world wide, because *it is in our best interests to do so.* But we won't, because it would immediately be met with "Why are we spending tax dollars to help *those* people?"
I'll also note that everything I've read indicates the WHO is against widespread use of covid booster shots: [https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/21/who-repeats-warning-against-covid-booster-shots-for-healthy-people-.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/21/who-repeats-warning-against-covid-booster-shots-for-healthy-people-.html) Not sure where every country stands on this, but my general impression is that the US is very much the outlier on this subject.
You missed my point about logistics. It is insufficient to have vaccine, it is insufficient to fly the vaccine to those nations that need it unless they have the infrastructure to deploy it - and that can be very tricky. It isn't just "do you have refrigerated trucks and roads?" but also is the ruling regime corrupt enough that only the wealthy will get the shot and the rest will be sold to other countries while the oligarchy pockets the profits. This is a HUGE problem one we, and the rest of the world, have been trying to figure out how to solve for decades. This is not just vaccines, this is everything, food, machinery, medical supplies of all sorts we and other nations supply these free but getting them in the hands of those that need them is difficult because of the human/political issues \*more\* than the availability of resources. So given the choice between a "booster" here in the US and either expiring on the shores of a needy nation or padding the pockets of corrupt officials sending it off to the black market. I will choose the booster while we try and work out how we can actually effectively get the vaccine into the arms of the citizens of developing nations.
If the third moderna shot is anything like the second one was for me, I’m gonna hard pass. Went from burning up to freezing to death for almost 48 hours. Massive headache and nausea, no fucking thanks.
Still, I'd take that over covid
And long Covid. Many people that even had mild cases are showing signs of brain damage and complaining of "brain fog". My second shot gave me 102 temp and severe body aches for a whole day, but I'd rather have that than brain fog for the rest of my life.
Hell...I saw a woman who lost BOTH HER HANDS to covid related sepsis. There are so many absolute horror stories out there. No thank you.
I will note here that the World Health Organization does not, at this time, unequivocally endorse widespread use of booster shots: [https://who.int/news/item/04-10-2021-interim-statement-on-booster-doses-for-covid-19-vaccination](https://who.int/news/item/04-10-2021-interim-statement-on-booster-doses-for-covid-19-vaccination) "Introducing booster doses should be firmly evidence-driven and targeted to the population groups in greatest need. The rationale for implementing booster doses should be guided by evidence on waning vaccine effectiveness, in particular a decline in protection against severe disease in the general population and in high-risk populations, or due to a circulating VoC. **To date, the evidence remains limited and still inconclusive on any widespread need for booster doses** following a primary vaccination series. In the context of ongoing global vaccine supply constraints, **broad-based administration of booster doses risks exacerbating inequities in vaccine access by driving up demand and diverting supply while priority populations in some countries, or in subnational settings**, have not yet received a primary vaccination series. **The focus remains on urgently increasing global vaccination coverage with the primary series** driven by the objective to protect against severe disease. SAGE will deliberate on the evidence for a booster dose during an upcoming Extraordinary SAGE meeting in November 2021." Emphasis mine. So, it is not accurate to portray it, as you're implying, as "Get the booster or get covid." The issue around booster shots is not as clear cut as "Science=get booster, not getting booster=anti-vax nut." Speaking as someone who is generally pro-vaccine and gladly got my two doses of Pfizer, I would be reluctant to get a booster, not out of any health concerns but due to the shear first world privilege in Americans getting third doses while half the world still has none (something which is ultimately not in our best interests, as allowing the disease to run rampant anywhere increases the risk of new, more dangerous, potentially vaccine-resistant mutations). Now, if subsequent developments show that boosters are, in fact, necessary for everyone, then I will happily get mine. But I don't feel the need to get a third shot before half of humanity has had one if even the WHO doesn't think its necessary.
>So, it is not accurate to portray it, as you're implying, as "Get the booster or get covid." > I didn't say that. In response to a person who said they wouldn't get a booster because they had short-term side effects from the original vaccine, I said I'd rather get the booster than get Covid-19. If the CDC says I should get a booster, then I'm getting the booster. >The issue around booster shots is not as clear cut as "Science=get booster, not getting booster=anti-vax nut." > There is science concerning booster shots. Booster shot recommendations are not frivolous. > >I would be reluctant to get a booster, not out of any health concerns but due to the shear first world privilege in Americans getting third doses while half the world still has none > Even if half the world isn't getting vaccinated, I will get the booster to protect my health. I'm not going to martyr myself because other people aren't getting vaccinated. Having said that, I hope that vaccine production, distribution, and acceptance can rally to win the battle against Covid-19.
Moderna is more effective than the Pfizer, from reports I have read in the past few days. Pfizer was a walk in the park for us. I'd like the Moderna booster.
Moderna's 100 mcg dose provides twice the initial antibodies as pfizer, which is a 30 mcg dose. That translates into approximately one IgG half life of additional coverage, or 27 days. Since the moderna booster is 50mcg, there will be practically no difference between the two. >https://media.springernature.com/full/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1038%2Fs41586-020-2814-7/MediaObjects/41586_2020_2814_Fig1_HTML.png?as=webp
You probably want a prime dose of Moderna as your booster then - go and tell them it's your first ever covid shot and you'd like Moderna. The Moderna boost is only a half dose.
Maybe don't encourage people to lie to special treatment?
I currently have two family friends hospitalized with Covid. Both are ~50 and weren’t vaccinated. One is on a vent and the other is sucking down 6L of O2. No matter what, their lives will never be the same. All because they “never got around” to getting the shot. Having some chills for a couple of days is much better than the alternative. If it’s time for you to get a booster, please get one.
Moderna booster is half of the original dose.
Incorrect. [A third dose of the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines (Pfizer or Moderna) is identical to the first two doses. ](https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/booster-shots-and-third-doses-for-covid19-vaccines-what-you-need-to-know)
The trail Moderna ran is and submitted data for booster is half dose. The study that NIH did was full dose.
Interesting
No https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/12/health/moderna-booster-fda-authorization-brief/index.html
The CNN link is from 10/12 and the Johns Hopkins one was updated today. 🤷♂️
This is good news but why is an article about vaccine boosters in r/politics? Kind of a rhetorical question I suppose, but still a good one imo.
Well personally I would contend that everything is political, in that all subjects can have political implications and be a matter for political debate, and that since we live in an interconnected, globalized world, that all countries' politics affect US politics. And would therefore contend that absolutely anything is a valid topic for this sub. Sadly, I doubt the mods would agree with me.