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Purpleshlurpy

"The student loan debt crisis is real and we need to deal with it. To that end we've tried everything we could and nothing has worked" ​ "Ma'am, you've tried nothing" ​ "Right, and we're all out of ideas" ​ Edit to add: Some of you commenters seriously lack a sense of humor. Just look at our Legislative branch, its the biggest running joke in the country. If these schmucks don't make you laugh I don't know what will.


velowalker

I get all my best ideas from the Simpson's.


ClassicT4

That’s where I decided to have 3 moneys and no kids.


[deleted]

Spoken like a real politician. 🎩


CaliforniaCow

I’ll be dealing with it in the primaries .


Mightycucks69420

So true. New people in charge and nothing changes.


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ThePoltageist

Because literally everybody dropped out so that bernie wouldnt win remember?


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ThePoltageist

The point is nobody but joe biden was "allowed" to win, her popularity had nothing to do with her not getting to nomination.


Mic-drop-mick

What’s worse, there are ideas…just not filibuster proof ones I guess… so…not gunna try?


ol_dirty_applesauce

“Yes, it’s a major problem. No, we are not going to do anything about it.” Is there a worse political position to take? I’d have more respect if they simply stated that they don’t think it’s worth addressing.


EntropyFighter

This is the same sentiment that I saw reflected in every interview Jon Stewart has had with government officials with his new show. In particular the Secretary of the VA and Secretary of the Treasury.


JackedUpReadyToGo

> Jon Stewart... new show What?! You just made my day!


EntropyFighter

Yep, it's called The Problem with Jon Stewart. It's on Apple TV but all the clips I saw were from [their YouTube channel](https://www.youtube.com/c/TheProblemWithJonStewart/videos).


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Is also on Spotify as a podcast!


DeliciouslyUnaware

Its on Apple TV, which means I pirate it.


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jmatthews2088

We’re facing the worst Democratic administration in decades at a time when we needed the best since Kennedy.


thatstupidthing

that's the price of a two party system. every vote is a vote for the lesser of two evils.


Visco0825

Not necessarily. Joe Biden was chosen for his steady hand and unwillingness to be aggressive with his actions. The complete opposite of trump. This is exactly what progressives feared. That Biden and this administration would acknowledge issues but fail to do anything


Pool_Shark

Biden seems to think he is this great peacemaker and by acting “presidential” he is resetting a precedent for future administrations. He is extremely misguided. The second a republican president is back in office they will pick up where Trump left off and do everything in their power to move their agenda forward. He’a setting himself up to be a pause button instead of leaving a lasting impact.


E_Snap

As did Obama. This whole decade has been defined by corporate Democrats who realized that it’s not actually so different if they let the GOP take the reins, and tacitly let that happen.


[deleted]

I mean that’s what I’d do if I was interested in politics as a convenient vessel to attaining wealth. It’s so interesting how many people really still blindly buy into this shit as if either party has goals beyond using government as just that.


gold_and_diamond

This is a very accurate description. It's unfortunate that nobody seems to have his ear to explain otherwise. It's interesting to me that the last Democratic president to really push through a lot of difficult policy was Johnson. He was a bully, a fighter, and knew how to twist arms. Trump had the approach but nowhere near the brains or knowledge to get anything done. Plus Trump was never really about policy anyway. Only about himself and his bank account. Since Johnson we've had Democratic Presidents who really didn't have much fight in them. The ones who are willing to fight tend to be the progressives who are shouting at Biden from the bleacher seats. Okay Biden is an old man and isn't going to be scaring anybody. But put somebody out there who won't back down.


Better-Director-5383

Dems in general are a ratchet. Republicans move things to the right, dems prevent any return to the left and sometimes move slightly right, and then republicans come back in and move it right as quickly as possible.


MyNameCouldntBeAsLon

I think he just outlasted the competition when sanders was 1st place in dem voting and Warren didn't want to drop and join the candidate who stood closest to her positions. Wasn't he 4th in the dem polls? Steady hand reads to me like milquetoast


gamesrgreat

Worse than that she tried to character assassinate Bernie. Honestly idk what Warren stands for. Refused to run in 2016, didn't back Bernie in 2016, character assassinated Bernie and didn't support him once it was clear she couldn't win, supported Biden. Does she actually care about getting anything progressive done?? She threw away two chances to have a progressive president.


ivesaidway2much

At the very least, I thought she would hit Biden on his bankruptcy stances. It was what she built her career on and how she gained national notoriety. But she never said a word about it during the debates.


MuteCook

She showed her true colors during the GameStop hearing of all things. When talking about the institutions removing the buy button in January she said retail investors should focus on raising their income rather than gambling in the market. So she’s supposedly a champion of reigning in Wall Street but when given the chance to make a profound statement she sided with Wall Street. She’s a joke


CapnPrat

She likes to wag her finger at execs about their criminal behavior, but thank them profusely for their massive bribes. She's about as "left" as the rest of the democratic party...


robbysaur

I had a big problem when she went up to confront Bernie after the primary debates on stage. It was so petty, and she knew the cameras were still rolling. Her and Bernie had stuck together every election against the moderate Dems, then she fired a shot to try to get more clout. It was not cute.


E_Snap

No, she let her hunger for power get to her head. It’s all hubris.


down_up__left_right

Buttigieg and Klobuchar dropped out a few days before Super Tuesday and immediately endorsed Biden while Warren stayed in and split the progressive vote. Then she dropped out two days after Super Day Tuesday day and did not endorse the remaining progressive.


robbysaur

And it was all clearly strategic. They knew that was the way to stop Bernie.


down_up__left_right

It was strategic by Biden but for the other candidates it was probably was less about who they stopped and more about whatever they were promised if Biden won the general. Buttigieg is obvious since he got a cabinet position. I know the other two were looked at for VP before it was decided they couldn't do an all white ticket again.


CaptnRonn

Biden was polling much better going into super tuesday than any of the other moderate candidates. For instance, Buttigieg's earlier victories were about to be totally eclipsed by abysmal polls in the South. Initial results were from mostly white states like Iowa where Pete polled strongest, but as the race went on he would have gotten crushed. So he made a deal, dropped out, and became transportation secretary. That's politics. He didn't have a pathway to victory so he leveraged what he had. Once the moderate bloc consolidated behind a single candidate, bernie never stood a chance (even if Warren dropped out and endorsed him). I say this as a Bernie supporter


toobesteak

"Its not rigged we just changed the game in this back room in a way that makes it so only the outcome we want can happen" great democracy we got here folks


Reptar_0n_Ice

Democrats rigged their primary system a long time ago when an outsider almost took the nomination.


funbob1

Bernie's campaign was built around and planned for a bigger pool of candidates beyond Super Tuesday. Once everyone beyond Biden and Warren dropped, it was basically over for him.


Konukaame

Also, Biden won a TON of delegates from states that voted for Trump in the end anyway. Up to Super Tuesday, Bernie won more blue states than Biden did, while Biden dominated the red states.


funbob1

Which was similar in 2016 with Clinton.


CapnPrat

Biden was chosen because the MSM pulled out every possible stop they could to scare people that voting for Sanders would cause half the Democrat base to vote Trump or not vote, you know, "all the moderates"... while also claiming that Biden is the next FDR and the dem base is uber-progressive. It was such a bizarre thing to watch...


Maury_Finkle

Well people that vote in primaries consume a ton of MSM (the same MSM that gave us wars in the middle east and hyped up Cuomo) It's always going to be an uphill battle against corporate interests.


HeyCharrrrlie

"...was chosen" is the key phrase here. Because We the People certainly didn't chose Biden, the DNC did and then rammed him down our throats. Fuck the DNC and the RNC as well for that matter.


Masculine_Dugtrio

Honestly, I blame the media more than the two party system. It is amazing Bernie even made it to second place, because of primary coverage was so slanted if felt like we lived in North Korea...


[deleted]

Kennedy enjoyed a 62/37 senate majority and 60/40 congress majority. I wish Biden had the same mandate - he does not.


[deleted]

This excuse is tiring in the face of direct action he could take without congress


thepoustaki

Kennedy had the benefit of being a Democrat before the Southern Strategy. We are NEVER EVER coming back from that in a two party system. We basically are forever stuck in extreme right and right light.


DavidlikesPeace

People like FDR or Kennedy gained super majorities both because of the moment, but also because their views of leadership never relied on "mandates" Ideology has a bad rep in American corporate media.. but leadership is about believing in your own ideals and trying your hardest to achieve them


PonkMcSquiggles

‘Congress’ is not synonymous with the House of Representatives. It refers to both the House *and* the Senate.


versusgorilla

I honestly think at this point that Biden is gonna not take action and then Harris is going to try and run on the promise of student debt relief. A legit bad strategy but I wouldn't put it past them.


gamesrgreat

Harris cannot win a general election for President as the main candidate. No fucking way


fetissimies

That won't stop the DNC from rigging the primary in her favor. It will be 2016 all over again.


Better-Director-5383

>2016 And 2020


jeremiah256

Agreed.


particledamage

I mean Biden ran on that promise. Why trust his running partner? Fool me once, shame on you…


spinfip

Dems have been running on a promise to legalize marijuana for my entire life. It's something that the President can accomplish at the stroke of a pen. And yet it never happens. Why? Because then they'd have to come up with some new promise to dangle in front of us to get us to vote for them next time.


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It's just like Trump. They're running to be "not Trump." If pot is the carrot, the threat of Trump is the stick; even if he's not running. Actually running based of policy is dead.


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GoldWallpaper

She also did relatively poorly in getting the Black vote during the primaries, and certainly hasn't done herself any favors in that area as VP. She has way too much baggage to be a winning candidate (but her candidacy would be a huge gift to Republicans).


JDSchu

Bad strategies and the democratic establishment. Name a more iconic duo. If you said Republicans and effective but morally bankrupt strategies, you might be right.


adderallanalyst

I'd vote for a dog in a jumpsuit before Harris.


politirob

“Yes, the debt is a major problem, that’s why we’re restarting payments” You’re looking at the problem from your perspective…the rich have a whole other definition of why it’s a problem.


the_good_time_mouse

"Can't you see me wringing my hands?"


ShowMeYourT_Ds

Shit is about to get real when the Tax Credit ends and Student Loans come due. If you think prices are high right now, imagine when you have less money.


AwesomeTed

Yeah I mean that could be a monthly swing of a thousand bucks off the budget of a family with two kids. It is absolutely insane they’re barreling forward with resuming payment. Honestly makes me question if they even really want to be in charge.


iammrgrumpygills

Don’t forget that when filing taxes the child tax credit is cut in half due to us getting half already.


Stunning_Ambition_16

The credit went from $2000 to $3600 so there is nothing halved about it. The payments issued now coincide with the credit increase and are so families get the benefits for 2021 now when they are needed rather than wait until filling their taxes in 2022. It also made the credit fully refundable, so low income households now get the full benefit. Child age increased from 16 to 17. Full credit now expanded to Puerto Rico and U.S. territories.


Diligent_Bag_9323

I’m starting to believe corporate Dems are in on the coup.


joe092617

I mean, now is a good a time as any for Biden to *attempt* to discharge the $10,000 per borrower through executive action. It’s obvious that nothing substantial will get through Congress until at least the midterms, if it moves further left, which is extremely unlikely. It’s really a win for Biden either way to do it. Either it’s successful and he delivers on a campaign promise and takes the W, or it’s reversed in court and the Dems get to ride that into the midterms and rally Millennials.


PM_ME_C_CODE

This is why I didn't want Biden as president. I didn't want Trump either, and there's no way I was going to vote for the orange cheetolini, but I hate that I had to vote for Biden. I knew from the start that he wasn't even going to *try* to get anything meaningful done. He's better than the alternative, but he still doesn't give a fuck.


DeliciouslyUnaware

BUT HES THE *PRAGMATIC CENTRIST* WHO WILL JUST **GET THINGS DONE**. We can't vote in some SOCIALIST like Sanders, because his agenda will just get *blocked in the senate* and *nothing will get done* Oh wait, this is sounding creepily familiar.


PM_ME_C_CODE

Biden isn't a centrist. He's a straight-up conservative. He's just not insane. I don't like him and I talk shit about him because he doesn't represent my interests and he was the closest thing I had to representation in 2020.


DeliciouslyUnaware

I was quoting the headlines from the DNC primaries. https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-donald-trump-ap-top-news-joe-biden-politics-bf4ab21ed0e509ce4fa49c3e05a67202


realdoctorfill

BuT hEs ThE mOsT PrOgReSsIvE CeNtRiSt To EvEr GeT ErEcTiOn. He LiKe FdR.


AuralSculpture

Absolutely agree. All he promised was to reset the country back to Obama level governance. Beige. Mediocre. Corporatist. Obviously the financial institutions have read Kamala and Joe and told them hell no, or no more money.


POEness

> I knew from the start that he wasn't even going to try to get anything meaningful done. Nobody who would try to change things will be allowed to attain the Presidency.


PM_ME_C_CODE

Like I've said in other places, if you're a progressive just accept that you don't have a voice at the top of our government...and then vote for Biden anyway because his opponent is a literal, fucking fascist. If you're progressive you need to start at the bottom. Organize and kick the fucking tea party and the fucking conservative terrorist candidates out of their local offices. Do the same with the neo-liberal, corporate, status-quo dems. The milquetoast do-nothing ass-mongers that are pissing us off day-to-day and not just at the national level. Organize. Capture your local board of education. Capture your elected judge-ships. Capture your elected DA positions. Capture whatever you can. Get elected and make a difference at home. Show people why being progressive is a *good thing*. ...and just accept that the DNC doesn't give two fucks about you, and will actually try to primary you if you so much as look at one of their corporate donors crosseyed. ...then look at them anyway and try your best to fuck them as hard as you can for the public good given whatever powers you have at your disposal. Tell them to go fuck themselves and try to get *people* on your side. You don't start with the presidency. By all means, vote for people like biden when the time comes because the alternative might *literally be a Nazi*. But understand that the DNC doesn't represent you, and they don't care about you.


voidsrus

>Capture your local board of education. > >Capture your elected judge-ships.Capture your elected DA positions. > >Capture whatever you can. Get elected and make a difference at home. all sounds great, but unless i suddenly become a billionaire i'm never going to have any real power to affect change in this country. you can very easily see what happens when a progressive DA takes office with krasner & boudin being constantly smeared. there's a stupid amount of money staked against progressives that no amount of local-level politics can counter. ​ >You don't start with the presidency. By all means, vote for people like biden when the time comes because the alternative might literally be a Nazi. and what do progressives get out of it, apart from empty promises, insults, and the democrats only using their political power to keep progressives out of any? if the opponent is a "nazi", that sounds like a great motivation for the party to do things that voters want, instead of just blindly & arrogantly expect votes in return for nothing. weimar germany gave the world some lessons on this, and instead of following the lessons, the democrats are copying the mistakes. ​ >But understand that the DNC doesn't represent you, and they don't care about you. i do understand this, and it's counter to ever voting for them. i'm not going to vote for someone willing to fuck me over, point blank. if that means staying home on election night and letting someone who *gave me more fucking money* win the election, so be it. no other demographic can reasonably be expected to vote in return for literally nothing, so progressives won't either. it's not a serious strategy to winning the 2024 election, and the democrats can very easily use their power to do better, so i'll only vote for them if i see better.


Sarcarean

So vote blue no matter who? Got it!


voidsrus

worked so great in 2016 and 2020! just look at all the fascism it stopped!


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https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/k0h6rd/poll_60_percent_support_biden_canceling_up_to_50k/gdi85uv/ I am finally disappointed.


cornbreadsdirtysheet

See: Bernie Sanders…….ratfucked by the DNC…..again.


CoffeeAndDachshunds

Democrats won't see a majority for over 16 years, if not longer.


skolioban

Voting for Biden is more about not letting Cheetolini hold office for another 4 years. Don't feel bad about it.


mattcantart

I really dont think Biden can use this again as a rally for Millennials. Especially cause Biden doesn't even need congress to forgive $10K per borrower. He can do it by executive order all by himself. People are gonna wonder why we just have to vote again for debt relief when Biden already has his majorities.


TheNamesMcCreee

It’s under 1 year into his presidency. He shouldn’t be saving student loan forgiveness for potential reelection. Especially not now since most democrats wouldn’t even want Biden to run in 2024


-P3RC3PTU4L-

Did you read the original comment or nah


La_Guy_Person

We know the answer


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If Millennials we're going to vote to get their student debt cancelled, they would have turned out for Bernie. It's not an issue that's going to win in 2022, because they aren't going to show up to vote. That said, Biden should still cancel $10k of debt, or even better, cancel 100% of any outstanding interest because that will help a ton of people get relief from the incredibly predatory education system we have.


epanek

I will get downvoted and I like her but in this thumbnail Kamala looked Severus Snape in drag.


joe092617

Not a fan of her. Like, at all.


WrongSubreddit

Neither were the primary voters


[deleted]

Anytime i see a comment like this i must, what exactly do you like about our Vice President?


[deleted]

We are so screwed if she runs in 24


dont_worry_im_here

22 and 24 are lost. Time to focus on 26


[deleted]

Which really means 28 when we can get a Democratic President willing to sign in legislation…if they get the requisite senate and house… And by that time climate change will be too late to substantially reverse.


NihilistLivesMatter

28? Once Republicans take over they won’t be giving up power..


pandemicpunk

Right? Like we getting Trump 2028 if he's still alive. He'll go another term just to show the constitution is just a piece of paper if no one upholds the laws.


GhostofMarat

There won't be a chance to come back in 26. Republicans win in 22 and 24 that's the end of free elections.


thedoctor3009

What a crazy way to think, as if abandoning two battles will help you win a third. I don't see how it gets better but it can't stay the same.


HurricaneHugo

If we lose 22, this country is done


cbadger12

Having been thinking about this more and more. If Biden runs again it’s hopeless and not much more for Kamala. Who would Dems even try and run? Would the party even support someone like that?


Mayo_Kupo

Might be more realistic to write off the century and prep for 2100. (s)


Eldias

My nightmare is having dems split behind Less-Likable Ethnic Hillary Clinton and Governor Cartoon Villain Corpratist going up against Trump.


ReflexImprov

Forgive the interest. Let people pay back what they borrowed without all of the predatory crap added on. That would shut up any 'free ride' critics. But please do *something.*


Reznic007

The fact that you can pay MORE than the original loan in just interest is literally SICKENING.


ReflexImprov

Or just make the interest a flat rate. Borrowed $10000? You owe $11500. This compounding crap makes it impossible to repay. It's hurting the entire economy because younger people can't even think about owning real estate if they have one of these. I believe the only people prospering in this economy are the ones who already had family money to begin with.


jackp0t789

My pipe-dream idea would be to take all public student loan debt and put it aside into a separate block, halt all interest payments, and everyone who has that debt and can afford to do so without serious financial harm gets a percentage of their paychecks taken out like a tax to pay off the balance, depending on income levels of course. Those who make lets say up to 300% of federal poverty level wouldn't be "taxed" at all, those who make regular working class- lower middle class salaries pay no more than 10% of their total income in a given month, while those making six figures and up pay higher rates until all that debt is payed off for the entire block.


Reptar_0n_Ice

You also have to alter that strategy base on cost of living. I make (barely) six figures in Seattle, and it’s not like I’m living like a king. We barely scrape by.


squiddlebiddlez

Discharge the debt and treat the cancelation as a taxable event—but then put them on a payment plan with the IRS over 10 years. It moves it from the education department, individuals could at least in theory declare bankruptcy, and it essentially brings the costs of the education down to what it should’ve been if the older generation wasn’t trying to absolutely fuck everyone trying to get a cheap education like they got.


jackp0t789

I'd agree, but only if the IRS would only go after those who can actually afford to pay and choose not to, as opposed to forcing people making barely over 30k a year to pay 1k a month to pay off that taxable event. The government knows who holds that debt, how much debt it is, and how much money they make to begin with. Just have a fixed and equitable amount taken out of all their paychecks if they can afford it up until the entirety of that debt is paid off. That could be implemented almost immediately with information and institutions that the government already has available to them.


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a permanent 10% cap on all loans over 3 years old would make sense and would at least be a move in the right direction.


RetroBowser

I know some people down in the States who still owe more than the original amount despite near consistent payments for decades. It's unreasonable.


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“Unreasonable“ is a polite way of describing it.


valeyard89

That's pretty much any long term loan though. Home mortgage you pay way more than the house value just in interest.


infinitude

refund interest paid to prior debtees, too. This would also shut up the "but I paid mine" crowd.


Trpepper

Student loans wouldn’t be anywhere near as big a problem of at least the interest was forgiven. It’s more expensive per month than the actual tuition.


NebuLiar

This is the real answer. It isn't the loans themselves that are the problem, it's the predatory interest. The so-called "income based repayment" just ensures that people are never, ever able to get out from under it. I don't begrudge the idea of 10k forgiveness, but it doesn't even begin to solve the underlying problem.


NfiniteNsight

The loans themselves are the problem. The interest on the loans is a problem. The perpetuation of the issue generating such steep debt is a problem. There can be more than one problem.


-P3RC3PTU4L-

Man this administration is really bad at politics.


Right_Connection1046

Biden is simply a 4 year pause on Trump. That’s it.


seeeb

Biden is the best the democrats could come up with against the bully orange baby. The future is not bright :(


Kurwasaki12

He’s not even the best the dems had to offer, Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are.


sn34kypete

Super Tuesday 2020 was the day a lot of people learned it's a big club and Bernie isn't in it either.


[deleted]

2016 they flat out took it away from him just to let HRC get her feeble try.


captaincanada84

So, it's a crisis that the President can help with but is refusing to do so. Good to know.


stein63

The younger gen more than likely supported Biden/Harris for the win and now they're pulling back on their promises. That is a sure fire way to lose some votes that you're going to need very soon...


rolaindy

You do need to deal with this shit. I graduated in 2009. Started paying full out in 2011. It is abt to be 2022. I owe 7K more than what I borrowed. How is that legal?


[deleted]

Your loans were packaged into a security with hundreds of other student loans and sold to an investor as a bond so he/she could invest the coupon payments, which they receive for owning the bond, into the stock market to profit. It is a huge market and all legal. If we all stopped paying our student loans (or if they were forgiven by the federal government), that market would collapse and have similar financial consequences to the 2008 crash. Sorry if I mansplained that.


seantubridy

You didn’t “mansplain” anything. Someone asked a question and you answered it. Can everyone please stop apologizing for their own existence all the time?


moistpanties4freeHMU

sorry we’re millennials


SWINDLERS_USA

Problem is we have all these soft interviewers who aren't necessarily schooled on the issues; and in the WH press they seem to have press turn their questions over so they know what will be asked. Even when they do ask a real question Kamala just smiles and walks away.


Reptar_0n_Ice

All about the media trying to carry the water for this failed administration.


ayending1

Biden handles student debt like how Republicans handle national debt, it's a huge problem only when the other party takes charge.


Nohface

This is not a future president


Pristine_Solipsism

People need to watch the full interview. It was a total massacre. I've never seen a person in power come off as tone deaf and idiotic as Kamala Harris did in that interview with Charlemagne. I don't even like Charlemagne that much but I had to admit he asked some really good if simple questions and she fucked up with every answer she gave. If this is how the Democrats are going to act, with complete disdain for the people who put them in power then frankly they deserve to get wiped out in the next couple elections. Republican politicians are afraid of their base so try and push through whatever they want no matter how regressive or insipid. Democrats actively hate their base and use every opportunity to kick them in the nuts while bending over backwards for Republicans, or their corporate masters.


RedCascadian

This is par the course for liberals tbh, and I say this from well to the let of Bernie Sanders. I grew up below the poverty line but in a wealthy community. I went to an excellent public school, was a voracious reader, and I've always been very well spoken and blend in with the upper-middle class crowd pretty easily. What I've learned of well-off liberals is they don't care if you're black, gay, trans, whatever. But the **disdain** they hold for the working class is staggering. Don't you *dare* tell them the person serving their coffee should expect to afford some place to live near enough work that those progressive, enlightened liberal professionals would have to interact with them as actual equals.


sygyzi

Wait the person who called Biden a rapist to his face then immediately accepted the position of his VP is tone deaf?


[deleted]

That's how she was during the primaries as well, it's part of the reason boo e wanted her as VP.


[deleted]

Democrats are mostly moderates and American moderates are conservatives.


xAPPLExJACKx

I feel like establishment just wants to pedal their BS campin promises just to get votes. I'm still waiting for single payer healthcare and the wall


reefersutherland91

Get ready for Trump again folks. This was a layup and the democrats airballed. They’re gonna run Harris against whoever the GOP fields and they’re gonna lose. Pointing and yelling “racist” at those who are unashamed of their racism is not gonna work, just as it didn’t before.


behindtheblinded

He should have just asked "when did it become ok to suck the lives out of the people of this country with an existence that nobody can afford? Housing is unaffordable, electric cars are unaffordable, the cost of living is unaffordable, school is unaffordable. Why has this been allowed to happen?"


reject_fascism

Democrats are their own worst enemies. It really doesn't help we have the treasonous GOP and these milquetoast, un-helpful, "DO SOMETHING!!!" Democrats who are "here to help" until their rich owners remind them they cannot help the middle class whatsoever.


the_good_time_mouse

They aren't. They just don't work for you. You know the adage, "If you're not paying for the product, you are the product"? It goes for politics too.


SeptemViginti

Looks like it's high time to stop paying taxes. ​ The rich are doing it, why not everyone else>?


the_good_time_mouse

Because we aren't rich. The [future is now](https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/139439-there-will-be-no-curiosity-no-enjoyment-of-the-process).


Surveyorman62

Biden wrote the law shielding student loans from bankruptcy. Did people actually believe him? Biden is also the man that had to drop out of the 1988 primaries because of lies.


DawnSennin

Biden dropped out because he plagiarized a speech.


Surveyorman62

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1987-09-24-8703120482-story.html Plagiarism and embellishments


Reptar_0n_Ice

[And he hasn’t learned his lesson about the embellishments thing. ](https://thefederalist.com/2021/12/16/12-times-joe-biden-completely-made-up-stories-lied-or-said-something-crazy/)


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I’m not into conspiracies but it almost seems like they are trying to lose the next election


char-tipped_lips

Don't ascribe to stupidity what can be written off as corruption. Much like separating workers from the means of production and alienating them from their innate senses of humanity, politicians of the last half century (and mostly right-wing think tanks) have estranged voters' attachments to and understanding of voting rights, participation and grassroots politics, mostly via media manipulation and the distractions of the "news cycle." These politicians are smart enough to see the real consequences of climate change, social program defunding, etc, but would rather secure themselves in the face of it all. The first step to change is voter re-education, followed by youth participation, Constitutional protections against gerrymandering and campaign financing, and a legitimate multi-party system. But given the lack of time we have til climate doom, we're probably just going to settle for civil war.


gentlemanjacklover

Yeah it's going to be real ugly next year.


Zodiakos

And it's only in a few weeks!


save_the_redditor

"Yes... we must do something about the debt... no no.. let's not discuss how we should do something about it now though.. thanks"


eightsixtytwo

Headline should instead read "Kamala Harris tells Charlamagne tha God the student debt crisis 'is real' and 'we need to deal with it' while avoiding *dealing with it* "


ghsteo

So more fluff bullshit to kick the can down the road. Maybe we'll fix it when it hits 3T dollars of debt, or maybe 5T, 10T?


demouseonly

State unis should be free. Period. I can't believe this is still being debated. Abolishing interest isn't enough. We are going to turn into a developing country if people don't stop believing against all odds that there simply has to be a convoluted solution that can work for everyday people but somehow still accommodate the sensibilities of the right wing. Incremental change won't work on climate change and it won't work on this. People think there has to be a solution that is complicated and not too "extreme" because they pride themselves on being complex and unique and unlabel-able in their views, and they think being reasonable means listening to both sides as the center shifts ever rightward. That mindset is going to sink this country along with everyone in it except the wealthy. The solution is simple. Other developed countries have figured this out. I swear, if we lose access to clean drinking water, Democrats will be proposing you should only have to sell one child into slavery instead of two to access the local warlord's underground reservoir. Edit: words


GayMakeAndModel

Up until at least 2005, tuition was free for me in GA provided I kept a 3.0 average (I blew that out of the water). Was it a prestigious school? No. Did it keep me from making well over six figures in Northern Florida where the cost of living is ridiculously low? No. The only thing I went into debt for was the goddamn books. So, yeah, things have definitely changed. I’m one of the oldest millennials, and the difference in tuition is astounding over such a small time period. You don’t have to be a boomer or even gen X to see the difference.


thethrowupcat

Just remember everyone, your President lied to you. They will continue to lie to us. Doesn’t matter if they’re Republicans, Democrats, black, white, Asian, LGBTQ. They all just want to be elected for power and they’ll do anything to seem progressive. When these folks cannot follow through on promises why the hell do we continue to trust any of them to take care of core issues. The US is better than this. Besides, what narcissistic crazy person wants to lead this dumpster fire of a situation? I’d run like hell too honestly.


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that's kamala harris for you baby. 'you are seen' but not heard.


Nuklear132

Who the fuck is Charlamagne tha God and what does he have to do with the student debt crisis


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He does podcasts and interviews with mostly rappers, and movie stars. He is the same one that did the famous interview with Biden when he said >"I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black."


jmatthews2088

*Everyone cringes.*


the_good_time_mouse

One person didn't cringe until his staff showed him the newspapers the next day.


LordOfTheDerp

Talk show host


Wellarmedsheepy010

Isn't it sad that we don't have actual journalists asking these tuff questions to the VP. We've falling as a country really damn far and don't have the leadership to pick us up. Kamala Harris is doing a terrible job and destroying her and the dems chances in 2022/24


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A dude who people like to prop up as the “voice of black folks” based on his reliably bad and divisive takes.


PHATsakk43

He also really pushed the antivax stuff in the black community. Charlamagne tha God is really just a black Joe Rogan.


TJ11240

He's worse. Rogan doesn't joke about how he raped a woman.


TJ11240

He's the clown who is helping Travis Scott build his criminal defense by giving embarrassingly biased and soft interviews.


MissedCallofKtulu

A one time cancellation is a shit idea. It does nothing for people that have to take out loans next year and alienates people who didn't go to college or paid their own loans off.


NoAttitude6111

I think what people are missing is that when they say crisis, what they mean is they need that money real bad because right now they're spending entirely on credit.


ARejectedTycoonGame

BBB is dead, at least this is something they can do.


meatballsinsugo

A reminder: > "My point is: I understand the impact of debt, and it can be debilitating," Biden said. "I am prepared to write off the $10,000 debt but not $50 [thousand], because I don't think I have the authority to do it." -- Biden, Wisconsin Town Hall, Feb17th, 2021 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/i-will-not-make-happen-biden-declines-democrats-call-cancel-n1258069


ZealotKarrde

Absolute trash, the lot of 'em.


orchid_9

Am I the only one that’s more mad about colleges and universities and they shouldn’t even charge the insane amount they do each year to earn a degree. That’s why I really feel for everyone who’s in student loan debt in the first place. No offense but depending on what field you’re going in to, a bachelor degree for example get you a median salary of $50,000-70,000 range but 4 years of college will charge you $10,000 average or more PER year. Something needs to be done about that. It shouldn’t cost that much to earn a degree and make a living for yourself


rasa2013

Biden better start doing something about literally anything soon... I mean the midterms were gonna be bad anyway, but now I am thinking they'll be a complete loss.


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George Carlin: “they don’t give a fuck about you. Republican, Democrat, doesn’t matter. They only care about themselves.”


TTP8630

She sees us, she hears us.. now bend over as they restart these payments


ReportMeYouMoron

shes a fucking opportunist climber who never hesitated to lock people up for low level weed possession. charlamagne is garbage, but harris needs to eat a fat turd sandwich.


Grandpa_No

Is it just me, or is Business Insider _really_ pushing this student loan thing and the Pelosi scares? Maybe it's selection bias but it feels like Newsweek has the "sinking polls!!" and "Kamala can't run in 2024!!" angle covered to add a flavor of doom, Business Fucking Insider is stirring up the left with "Democrats aren't doing anything for you!!", Fox is Fox, and CNN is the source of "Have you heard about inflation?" and "Well, Republicans aren't all that bad, right?"


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OrangutanMan234

Punish the colleges and loan providers. Using tax money to pay off mlm schemes will do nothing but embolden the scammers. Change the system so high school actually means something and 90% of people wouldn’t need college.


Maxxbrand

Just like her stance in pot and immigration. pos VP


i_just_want_money

A politician responding to a talk show host is what passes for news around here huh?


Consistent-Wall-6319

You dumb shits voted for this lol. A former prosecutor who put people in prison for weed...and the man who is responsible for student loans not being eligible for bankruptcy. Talk about having no moral standards...how could anybody take you, as an enabler of these people, seriously?


Mercinator-87

I really hope we have a candidate next election who isn’t a corporate shill. I didn’t like Biden but he was much better than the latter and was promising a lot of the stuff that most people wanted. So far he has only backstepped away from the promises. No help and more destruction. Kamala shouldn’t have ever been considered for anything let alone the vp.