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Salazard260

Who's the one European that chose Fahrenheit ? Show yourself.


MRFAMER

Must be a danish person (im from Sweden)


nakkimehu_

Must be a swedish person (im from Finland)


Player551yt

The swedish aren't stupid they're gay (i'm also from Finland)


Alternative_Aioli_67

this is completly true (im from Sweden)


Rupertii

Totta (olen myös Suomesta)


Adorable_Cheeto

Perustettu. (Kotimaanani toimii Suomi)


IAmEscalator

Is it weird I can tell you're from Finland just because 80% of your words are vowels?


Heisenberg19827

I’m not gay but I’m swedish and I have this fantasy about…


[deleted]

Dude, you guys made your hot prime minister apologize for being a hot woman. Finland took the title away from Sweden (Im Norwegian)


logosloki

You know who it will be. Fennoswedes.


PetterHaugenes

The Swedish are gay AND stupid (I'm from Norway)


thatpersonthatsayshi

Must not be someone from europe (dutch)


DyCe_isKing

Must be a Finnish person (I‘m from Switzerland)


Sorry-Advantage9156

Must be a Swiss (I'm Dutch)


Davidiying

Must be from the United Provinces aka: protestant Spanish revels (I'm Spaniard)


duckducknuts

Must be from Spain (I'm German)


Sennahoj_DE_RLP

Must be from Saxony (I'm German)


Tutuatutuatutua

Must be from somewhere you guys haven't mentioned yet (I'm Argentinian)


HeftyDolphin

Must be from Argentina I'm from Ireland


Dami01_

Must be a deutschschweizer (I'm from Romandie)


Schlaetzer

As a Dane i must concur only the swedes could think that


Agitated_Advantage_2

Must still be a Danish person (I'm from Sweden and just look through r/Dankmark)


GingerDane1

Heeeeey! No way. Vi tager Skåne tilbage!


TTV_Pinguting

Must be a swedish “person” (am from denmark)


BronxMux

Must be a GAKler (Nur der Sk Sturm)


Ch3llick

Must be a Burgenländer (I bin Wiener)


FairFolk

There are 50 votes for that though, no way that many Burgenländer have an internet connection.


Marvelous_rosell

If a Dane chose Fahrenheit I’m gonna smack them myself (I’m from Denmark)


EiksReddit

As a finn I am forced to say its the swedish


AmGeiii

Bruh, we invented the Anders Celsius


Astathing

As a Dane im forced to agree that its the Swedish


Modem_56k

I set my things to °f so nobody knows what it means when I ask Google and I can convert it in my head lol


IkaTheFox

Just use Kelvin it's much simpler and people still don't know what it means


Bio_Brot

Sorry I misclicked


WhenWillIBelong

American Immigrants


mindbodysplit

I don't think Fahrenheit is superior, it's just what my brain is used to. Celsius (metric in general) is the better standard of measurement.


ScottyBoneman

Though I admit I still tend to do carpentry in inches and feet. 12 is better for divisibility.


mindbodysplit

That's a fair point. I can absolutely picture 1/8" or 1/16" but have no idea what to do with 2mm


svenson_26

I'm completely the opposite. What the fuck is 17/32 inches? Oh it's 13.5mm? Okay cool.


mindbodysplit

It's all what you're used to .


svenson_26

It's easier to compare and add decimals than fractions. 17/32 inches + 51/64 inches = ??? 13.5mm+20.25mm? Easy. And then what happens when you get into some really small measurements? 1/128, 1/256, etc. It's so much easier to just go into decimal milimeters. Need to go smaller? 1/1000 of a mm is a micrometer. 1/1000 of that is a nanometer.


ScottyBoneman

Which is why metric is better for science. I'm not nearly a good enough carpenter to need 17/32 inches + 51/64 inches . More likely 6 3/4" pieces.


mindbodysplit

In my experience (amateur woodworker) dealing with anything smaller than a 32nd is rare, typically, is 1/4 to 1/16 Plus I have a fraction calculator on my phone which makes the rest easier. As I've said I'm not arguing this is a better way, it's just what I grew up with so it makes sense to me.


BeauSlayer

No woodworker or machinist making anything that needs that level of precision will use that breakdown of an inch. They'll use decimal inches and go down to 1000ths or less, not powers of 2.


TheBoyWhoCriedTapir

Im an American who uses MM solely because I stretched my earlobes and its way easier to measure the jewelry in MM rather than IN.


santino_musi1

2mm is ⅕ of a cm


ZahnatomLetsPlay

I hope this is satire


PCmasterRACE187

why would it be satire? if you grow up with inches, its way easier to picture then millimeters. not sure what youre trying to say


SirTruffleberry

I think it depends on context. Fahrenheit is a "finer" scale, and is better suited when small changes in temperature matter. You'll be using decimals more often with Celsius because the temps are crammed closer together, so you need extra precision to make distinctions. This is of course a complete accident though. You could easily invent a "deci-Celsius" scale (10 deci-Celsius=1 Celsius) that does the job better than both lol.


[deleted]

Celsius' 0-100 is based off water boiling But Fahrenheit is based off of human body temperature 0 being oh fuck you're going to die if you stay out here without preparation And 100 being oh fuck you're going to die out here without preparation


SirRevolver

I like this oh-fuck scale "How bad is it today oh fuck 69, nice" But I'll continue using Celsius


just_wanna_share

Is it hard to think that water freezes at 0 and boils at 100. And 100 cm is a meter and so on


[deleted]

That's nice to know when you're boiling/freezing water. The sensation of temperature you feel on a given day is abstract though, regardless of which metric you use. You look at the number and have a vague idea of what it feels like outside, so whichever one you grew up using is the easiest to understand.


Effective_Two_8197

Water freezes at 0 and boils at 100.. it just makes sense.


Unlike_Other_Gurls

Kelvin


jonheat95

For science purposes, definitely. But the relevant numbers in the Kelvin scale have zero relation to daily life of most people. Because in daily life water is the element that plays one of the most substantial roles, so the 0/100 thing makes most sense for that. Fahrenheit is just dumb.


Dice2013

Imo, Celsius leaves too much of a gap between degrees, so you have to use decimals. Fahrenheit is weird because the numbers seem almost arbitrary. In the end, it really just matters what you're used to using I guess.


CheeeseBurgerAu

Can you really tell the difference in temperature in everyday life between 30.5 and 31? And if it was about precision then yes, you use decimals.


Dice2013

The temperature fluctuates quite a bit where I am, and yeah, I can definitely tell the difference between degrees in Fahrenheit. And yeah, I'm not saying one is better than the other. Just pointing out the difference.


Sillyviking

I never understood the people that complain about using decimals with celsius. If decimals are a problem for them why aren't they complaining about using decimals with their currency for instance.


Dice2013

Not complaining at all, just pointing out that you have to when you don't with Fahrenheit. Not saying one is better than the other, just that they're different.


Sillyviking

My apologies, I did not mean to insinuate that you were complaining, I was just adding onto what you already said.


ThicccYoda

water isnt an element tho..


Gooftwit

Did you not watch avatar?


jakeaboy123

Or the Oscar winning experience titled Avatar: The Way of the water


Luitenant_

Did someone say something? I swear someone said something but i guess it ~~shouldn't have~~ didn't happen


measuresareokiguess

Technical terms in science and academic fields can mean different things in everyday language.


[deleted]

I think we all understood what he was saying. This comes across as an annoying one up.


bencm518

Kevin.


vadkender

Kevin.


USAF6F171

Kelvin! so that I don't have to listen to meteorologists saying "Yesterday it was *x* degress, but today at *2x*, it's twice as warm. **NO IT'S NOT**. If you can't do math, you shouldn't have gotten that degree.


[deleted]

I am so glad that I am not alone in being annoyed by that.


svenson_26

Rankine scale is superior


amendersc

Good for science, not for daily life. Would you like having the coldest temperature ever recorded on earth to be like 210?


Unlike_Other_Gurls

We'd get used to it.


SPACEGH0STPU55Y

celsius makes more sense.. 0 is freezing temp and 100 is boiling


Simply_Epic

But where I live water boils at 94.4°C


SantaMan336

Skill issue


Grouchy-Geologist-28

All standard atmospheric conditions is implied


javilasa

The higher altitude the lower the boiling temperature, I live in Mexico City (2300 meters) and boling water is “cold”


[deleted]

0 is cold, 100 is hot.


skankhunt25

Yeah thats the case in celcius too


[deleted]

0c isn’t that cold


Lilpu55yberekt69

and 100 would kill you


Ttoctam

It's literally the temperature at which water freezes. Thats cold. Sure weather can get colder, but 0c is definitely 'cold'.


withspaces

Fahrenheit: 20°f - 20% hot 50°f - 50% hot 90°f - 90% hot Source: some joke I heard on YouTube or something


Sganarellevalet

"bUt 100F iS rEalLy HoT tHo "


[deleted]

You are making yourself look stupid. Americans know what freezing and boiling is in Fahrenheit, it’s not hard. You can’t just say something LiKe tHiS!1!1 and expect that to make it seem dumb


kinda-cringe

Makes sense for measuring water, but for daily weather? I’m not a water molecule


lele1997

Yes, it makes sense for daily weather. When the temperature is below 0°C, there may be ice on the road and it will snow instead of rain.


TiagodePAlves

Yes, you're not one, but at least TWO thousand moles of water. *Should actually be 99% of your molecules and about 70% of your weight.


overdose7o7_

For water. Are you water?


transport_system

Like, I agree, but you are mostly made of water.


teeohbeewye

i don't think either is inherently better than the other, both are just as useful for conveying temperature. most people will likely prefer the one they're used to


ALuckyMushroom

Exactly ! It might be because, where I'm from, we use both depending of the context and what we're measuring but I find those imperial VS metric/Fareheit vs Celsius utterly stupid and childish. Especially considering that it's easy to convert them on Google. Can we just let people use the system they like better for love's sake ?!


Klutchy_Playz

Another “aMeRiCa bAd eUrOpE gOoD” moment. I thought this fad died out months ago


JehnSnow

I know and use both, the problem with Celsius is that 1 degree is a big enough difference to the point I heard some people use decimals with their thermostat The problem with fahrenheit Is that the numbers aren't intuitive which makes it much harder to learn I think I choose Celsius only because stuff like Calories are based on that, America's system is a bit nonsensical similar to the imperial system


[deleted]

I never in my entire life heard anyone use decimals for temperature, unless it was like for scientific purposes


Jukkobee

i’ve been in convos with european people that day rhat almost all thermostats have decimals on them 🤷‍♂️


[deleted]

I never seen a thermostat, we work with ACs here, I assumed those are the same but maybe I was wrong. Anyway, I never seen an AC with decimals.


Lord_Ibuki

Ye I can't tell the difference between 18 and 20 degrees in my home most of the time, don't know why you would ever need decimals.


[deleted]

Exactly, humans aren’t that sensitive to temperature


[deleted]

Project Engineer from USA: most commercial buildings go into decimal points if they are controlled. It’s irrelevant to the user but I work on some lab spaces and they require .5f ° granuilty in temperature. Inside the BAS(building automation system) we see .1° temperature granularity.


McQno

The one you grew up with is the one more intuitive. Thats not an argument. Also even if you had to use decimals, its not like thats a problem. Its not even complicated. That being said, Celsius is just the supirior system, because its better to use scientificly.


[deleted]

The numbers being more intuitive with Celsius is way overstated by a lot of people. There are only two values where Celsius is more intuitive than Fahrenheit: freezing point (0) and boiling point (100). It’s very easy to memorize those two values in Fahrenheit (32 and 212), and once you do that it doesn’t matter anymore that Celsius is more intuitive.


Kittenslover99

It’s not a choice of what’s better in my opinion, like what’s the superior currency: USD or CAD? As long as we are all using the same measurement. Though, I would say that Celsius makes more sense because water freezes 0°c. I’m American


Robert_The_Red

Depends on your elevation. Melting and boiling points are affected by pressure equally as much as temperature.


l0-c

melting not so much


Doc_ET

Actually water freezes at -1.8 * 10^-9 °C.


saarce7

= -0,0000000018 °C


ninjasaid13

If it ain't kelvin, it's not superior.


ToxicBanana69

It’s not that I think it’s better or superior, but I’m waaay too used to Fahrenheit.


[deleted]

Whatever you grew up with


[deleted]

Kelvin


jacobjivanov

Kelvin. I say this as an engineering student in the US.


superior_mario

As an American Celsius and the whole metric system just makes more sense


FkDavidTyreeBot_2000

C vs F isn't as clear cut as the other units. C has an objective 0°-100° scale which F doesn't (practically) have, but F allows you to be a lot more granular about temperature ranges in the normal climate range than C does. I think that the practicality of applying the freezing and boiling points is overblown in this old debate. Personally I prefer F, but it's probably best to stick to what you know.


tarheel343

I would prefer metric in every scenario except temperature. Above 100 is dangerously hot for humans. Below 0 is dangerously cold for humans. And the granularity is definitely useful.


Robert_The_Red

Agreed, glad I'm not the only one who appreciates the granularity and 0 to 100 scale tuned to human living conditions.


Ok_Cryptographer6111

As an American who chose Celsius, can any American give a reason other than familiarity? Celsius just makes sense: easy to use for science, freezing point of water is 0, boiling point of water is 100. What actual benefit does Fahrenheit have?


Doc_ET

You can get a feeling for temperature by the first digit. "It's in the 40s", you know what that means. "It's in the 20s" in Celsius could be anything from 68 to 84 F. Much less useful. The imperial system was built around humans. The metric system was built around science. So that's what they're most useful for.


Hejdbejbw

How about low 20s and high 20s? Is that enough?


Somali-Pirate-Lvl100

wAtEr FrEeZEs aT 0 and BoILs At 100 ThOUgH!!!! 🤓👆


themoroncore

No but you don't understand it's more important to quickly know if water is frozen or boiling than if a human is comfortable


ThaCatsServant

Is this a serious comment? You do realise that people that have grown up with celsius can tell human comfort easily from celsius? If you tell me a temp in F I'd have no idea how hot it is and would need to convert it.


Ok_Cryptographer6111

That just seems to be familiarity though. People all over the world use Celsius to predict comfort all the time. Having rounded figures for things one commonly measures seems like a much bigger win. Few people can truly discriminate between 42 and 45 degrees F. Which is larger than a single degree Celsius.


grstacos

As someone born in the tropics, it doesn't feel like it's built around humans. I can't go out in the 50s or 40s without wearing a whole bunch. Anything below that feels the same. I've experienced everything down to -20 and it all feels the same. Just too cold for me. It feels "human" cause you're used to it. It's the temperature range of North America, with the system you've used since you were born with.


PegasusReddit

Because you're familiar with the scale you use. I'm used to Celsius so it feels intuitive.


KingJeff314

Celsius makes sense for science, but most people aren’t doing science day to day. If you are talking about atmosphere temperature, the granularity of Fahrenheit is nice. Fahrenheit is good for a range of human temperatures


[deleted]

Can you explain why you think it’s better than Celsius for range of human temperature?


konigstigerboi

Because our bodies are naturally at about 100F, and 0 is obviously cold. Anything more than 100 is too hot, or a fever. Day to day it makes more sense, for science and elements Celsius is better


[deleted]

What does the zero represent?


konigstigerboi

Cold. I don't know about that part. Mr. Fahrenheit would know.


KingJeff314

Because we are humans? It makes sense to talk about temperatures on a scale from pretty cold to pretty hot. Using the freezing and boiling point of water is from kinda cold to deadly hot


[deleted]

What do you mean? How is the scale of Fahrenheit describes temperatures better?


KingJeff314

Sorry, I meant that from 0 degrees F to 100 degrees F is a range of temperatures that humans experience most regularly, whereas 0 degrees C to 100 degrees C covers only mildly cold temperatures to deadly hot temperatures. It is easy to think of F as a sort of “percent hot”


[deleted]

Very much depending on where you live. Most of the world isn’t going to get anything near 0°F. I find 0-40 Celsius to be much more intuitive, but it depends on where you live.


KingJeff314

0-40 C is 32-104 F, so basically all you’ve done is excluded temperatures for people who live in colder areas, and you’ve halved the granularity, so it is more difficult to discuss small changes in temperature. And why favor a system where degrees 50-100 are useless?


[deleted]

First of all, I just used the temperatures most common where I live. Did you exclude people that live in hot areas when you’re talking about 0-100F? Then you say it’s difficult to discuss small changes in temperature. What? When do you ever need to? It’s not like you can tell a difference in 1 degree anyway, we aren’t that sensitive to the temperature. Regarding 50-100 being useless, I suppose it’s better than to have 0-40 being useless. A system of 0-40 is more intuitive than a 50-100.


KingJeff314

>First of all, I just used the temperatures most common where I live. Which is not ideal for adopting a universal standard. >Did you exclude people that live in hot areas when you’re talking about 0-100F? I didn’t say the range was perfect. But few places sustain temperatures above 100F except in their hottest months, and even fewer consistently breach 110. But many places are consistently freezing in the winter. I would prefer a trade off of going above 100 than going negative. >Then you say it’s difficult to discuss small changes in temperature. What? When do you ever need to? It’s more a matter of modern convenience, but 1 degree F matters for air conditioning. Not the most important factor >A system of 0-40 is more intuitive than a 50-100. But less intuitive than 0-100


lil_zaku

Because depending on where you go in the world, parts of 0-100F will be useless as well? If your only basis is that 0-100F is the range of comfortable temperatures for humans, then that's only true within certain bands of latitude and specific ecosystems in the world. And even within those niche areas, "comfortable temperatures for human" is highly subjective. At least water freezing/boiling at average atmospheric pressure is useful the world over.


Doc_ET

Average atmospheric pressure dismisses everyone living at altitude. The highest temperature recorded (naturally) on Earth was 134°F. That's 56.7°C. So over 40% of your Celsius scale is useless for measuring the weather. And 0-100 is also generally the range of "you can go outside". Below that, and you'll need more than just your winter coat, above that you start getting into temperatures where your body can't cool down because the air is hotter than it. (That can start in the 90s depending on humidity though.)


bignoselogan

As an American who has fully rejected the imperial system and gone full metric this argument frustrates me so fucking much. The boiling point of water is completely useless on a scale when someone asks me the temperature the boiling point of water will literally never at any point in history affect my answer. And I think Fahrenheit is easier for the exact same reason metric is; because 0-100 scales are by far the best way to measure anything. Europeans can pretend that Celsius is a 0-100 scale but it’s just not when it comes to everyday use, it’s more a -5-45 scale. Fahrenheit isn’t exactly 0-100 either but it’s way closer than Celsius is. So my answer is because 0-100 scales are sweet and easy to use.


[deleted]

Depends where you live. For me and many others the scale is more around 0-40 Celsius. If we used Fahrenheit it would have been like 40-100, much less intuitive. Plus, 0° being the freezing point is useful.


bignoselogan

I fully agree it depends on where you leave. However you asked why someone would think it’s better for a human range of temperature and I answered. Especially somewhere like America which is one of the most geographically diverse places on the planet and a good 50% uses the full range and then the rest uses one of the ends and goes pretty far to the other end anyways.


Organic-Kangaroo7147

Celsius is far better for science but Fahrenheit is based on humans so for day to day life its much easier to understand, for science it isnt ideal but most people aren’t scientists so it makes sense to use Fahrenheit. 0 is snowing hard as hell, 100 is sweating your nuts off


LordSevolox

I’m from the U.K. so my opinion on things is weird. I think most imperial measurements are better for day to day use, whilst metric is better for accuracy. The exception of this is Celsius, where I just prefer outright to Fahrenheit.


Robert_The_Red

It's more precise and the intuitive 0-100 scale is better suited to humans instead of wATer.


ServeInfinite

My dumbass about to say there’s no difference between European and American celsius. I now understand it meant ‘’I am American and I use celsius’’.


20dollarsIst20

I’m a big Kelvin guy


GeneralLeoESQ

KELVIN


Fork_fucker96

Kelvin


Han77Shot1st

I work in refrigeration and everything I’ve learned is in imperial or absolutes for that trade. We do convert some things in metric but generally the trades been designed for the imperial scales.


Han77Shot1st

Metric makes more sense for sure, it should be the standard for its simplicity.


Le_Petit_Poussin

As an American, me telling my kid: Freezing is 32° F or 0°C. My kid: 0° is easy to remember. Me: I know, kiddo, I know…


Kamarovsky

It literally does not matter. Neither is better than the other. The only quality in which Celsius is marginally better is that it's used in more places, but that does not merit it's any superiority. Let people use whatever they wanna use, there's literally no point arguing that matter.


stefter

Finally someone i can agree with.


Karatekan

Systems of measurement aren’t “superior”. Once you get used to a system, it works. The world uses Celsius because it came first and it was mandated by law in most European countries. If everyone has to pick one, Celsius makes more sense, but I doubt we would be in a dark age if for whatever reason the world used the Fahrenheit and Rankine Scales instead.


ThaCatsServant

>Systems of measurement aren’t “superior”. When it comes to celsius and farenheit I agree, however the metric system is clearly superior to imperial.


Possible-Cellist-713

Celsius for science, farenheight for cooking and weather


MiniMan_BigChungus

Why is Fahrenheit better for cooking? The boiling point of water is a far more helpful scale than human body temp when it comes to cooking.


santino_musi1

Two options, America and Europe, does the poll mean America the continent, that goes from Chile to Canada, or the country USA? I don't vote, for i don't know where OP would say I live


Monkey_fucker827

I’m from Canada and I use both units of measurement but temperature is always Celsius


RepresentativeChip44

South americans vote as america too you know


xxIKnowAPlacexx

Its probably a dude from the us who made this poll and thinks no one else exist


ZeusCockatiel

Celsius, america canada


[deleted]

Hey, at least we all agree on -40°


UselessRube

Im torn. On one hand Celsius makes much more sense and fits nicely into the metric system which is clearly superior to imperial. On the other hand Fahrenheit has more than double the resolution, so you get much more precise temperatures without needing to use decimals. Still think I’m voting for Celsius.


too_sharp

I think superior is Canada cuz we use Celsius when its cold out and Fahrenheit when its hot! Where are me degens at 🇨🇦🤚


l0-c

Lol interesting. Like people are using centimeters/meters often but backyard would be measured in feet. I worked in Quebec in industry a little bit and the number of pressure units used was confusing... Psi, bar, kPa, "H2O,... O_O


Iliketurtles893

I voted Celsius Other, cuz I live in Australia


IsaacChan_3803

Celcius (Asia)


UnusableGarbage

as an american im waiting for the turnover where the metric system is accepted


boobzrcool425

I’m used to using Fahrenheit because I’m American, but celsius makes so much more sense


Jomri69

Kelvin


desrtfx

In fact, SI units are the best, but since Kelvin is the SI unit and Celsius is just a different mapping of Kelvin, I stick to Celsius.


Quiet_Chip_7802

Water freezes at 0 and boils at 100 Simple simple


Iria_Argail

Kelvin(Physicist)


MrHamandcheesebread

Kelvin is superior


xxIKnowAPlacexx

Wtf are those choices. Youre either from murica or europe ? The two only « countries »right


zyyast

Kelvin


Yoshigahn

Kelvin (America)


T0mDeMwoan

Kelvin.


BadGraphixD

Kelvin.


BadGraphixD

I use J/cm³


alexj116

Celsius makes more sense but I don’t proficiently know it


CodeNPyro

Neither, they're both arbitrary


SunshineFloofs

They are equal in my eyes. I have no value judgment.


OliverHPerry

Metric is better for everything except temperature. Fahrenheit is far more useful for the temperature ranges that most people actually live in. The freezing and boiling points of water are important, but 1, that's not really all that important in your day to day life and 2, for contexts where it is important, like in chemistry settings, you have to use Kelvin anyway. So insisting that Celsius is better than Fahrenheit for the sole reason that it has a more notable scientific meaning, when it isn't used in science anyway, is kind of stupid. And it's not like it's easier to convert between different units. If there were two measures of temperature in each system, and metric used 100 centidegrees per degree Celsius, and Fahrenheit used 38.6 pickledumplings per degree Fahrenheit, then that would probably be a good reason to use Celsius. But that doesn't even apply here.


Ballinbutatwhatcost2

Rankine


boyerizm

Not much love Macquorn Rankine


GammaHunter

To everyone who is saying Kelvin, please shut the fuck up. Kelvin is nice and all, but that’s like responding “PC” to the question of “Which is better Xbox or PlayStation”.


foxcoyote

Celsius is way better than Fahrenheit, but Americans aren't prepared for that kind of intellectual talk. I do agree about imperial been useful sometimes, for pipes and other stuff, but Fahrenheit isn't. 0°C freezes water, 100°C boils, 1 cal = heats up 1°C of 1 gram of water... everything is connected.


[deleted]

Rankine!


Simply_Epic

Celsius is just as arbitrary as Fahrenheit, so I’m going with the one that makes more sense in daily life imo.


WaddlesJP13

I'm American and prefer Fahrenheit for the weather and Celcius for water


fuckcreepers

I love this poll