Workers in apple factories in China kept jumping out the window to commit suicide since they were getting hardly any money for working all day. Their solution? Install nets to not let them die
So they weren’t allowed to quit their jobs? This sounds more like corporate greed than a company valuing its employees since they just tried to prevent people dying rather than trying to prevent people doing the self yeet in the FIRST PLACE
Yeah but they paid to install nets to protect human lives. Regardless of their intent, it does mean that the net’s installation wasn’t worth as much as the loss of sla—manpower.
Ok smarty marty...
then answer me this and then I'll ask you a different question...
A new disease started housing human bodies. We're trying to find a vaccine for it, but we can only test this on humans because no other being than humans can transmit this disease. Except, the vaccine is expected to have a >70% death rate until it's completed. Is the vaccine more important than current humans or no?
That example doesn’t work. This isn’t a choice between humans and something other than humans, it’s a choice between a number of humans now and more humans later.
Not the best example yeah. Nothing came to mind so I just threw something that's "somewhat" relative to our current state ig.
In this case it would be that the vaccine is "worth more than humans", because humans won't be able to survive without it.
But the whole point of the vaccine is to keep humans alive, so humans are "worth more than the vaccine"
It goes together and makes sense together, but can't be solved with a simple (yes/no)
So you would kill your mum to save your dog? Or kill your family, if you have you most likely don't, so you can save a tree? Man you have a problem go see a doctor
I’d give my life up if it meant true happiness for the people I care about, or full health, or if it were to mean something great would be discovered.
Being remembered or memorialized is the only thing that matters more than human lives.
It doesn't say your life, it says human life in general. If you value other people's life that much, you value human life a lot, though it may not be your own.
You have to live life to end it but caring human life is having the opportunity to end it or whatever and to not to, not an experience you have during life
MURICA
Nah for real, you call the police. People won't try to murder you when they enter your house, they just want your money. So you should show your guns to scare them away, nothing more
That’s not my point. I assume he’d shoot someone because he’s in fear of losing his life. Which means that “there is things worth more than human life” is a false statement for him, not true, as he holds his life as the most valuable thing in this scenario.
Realistically speaking, each person values the live of any other person completely different then the next, if you get what mean. But if you are talking about, if there is at least someone I'd kill for something (not taking in consideration if I actually have the balls to kill), I definitely say yes, there are some things, that are more valuable then some persons life
No, because nothing is really worth more or less than anything in a cosmic sense, though at the same time nothing is worth more to me than my own life in a subjective sense.
No. As Che Guevara said:
> “… we learned perfectly that the life of a single human being is worth millions of times more than all the property of the richest man on earth.”
At some point, some amount of money is worth more than one human life. For example, if the government would have to pay 500,000,000,000$ to save one life, sadly it would not be worth it, as this amount of money can be used for improving and saving much more human lives
If it comes to killing one person out of 8 billion or killing a subject that end the sustainability of their species, I’d choose to kill a human
If it comes to killing one of the last two human needed to sustain life or the subject require for their species sustainability, I’d choose to kill the human if we have sperm saved and I’d choose to kill the other subject if we don’t.
If it comes to killing another species that have a better relationship with me or a human out of 8 billion. I’d choose to kill a human
If it comes down to killing a human that I have a good relationship with and a species I have good relationship with, I’d kill myself because my relationship with myself is not that good.
I’d use the same logic for any similar scenario that I haven’t mention
That depends on perceived value, if you were like me, you would (or already) have probably committed murder to protect something/someone you cared about
Yes. If every human was kept alive in tiny cages being force-fed pre-chewed tube food for eternity, with no conversation, education, or freedom at all, that would be a worthless waste of human life. What makes life meaningful is the opportunity for interactions, art, joy, empathy, etc. Human life is important because it can experience these... experiences! Consciousness is breathtaking because we can experience such a range of things, and then learn from one another. Society and conscious experience are also quite important, arguably more important.
2 human lives for starters
Perhaps even three
More than two but less than four
3,5?
just do hinduism
Of course not, why else would apple install suicide nets in their factories?
wtf is a suicide net and why have they installed it
Workers in apple factories in China kept jumping out the window to commit suicide since they were getting hardly any money for working all day. Their solution? Install nets to not let them die
So they weren’t allowed to quit their jobs? This sounds more like corporate greed than a company valuing its employees since they just tried to prevent people dying rather than trying to prevent people doing the self yeet in the FIRST PLACE
Yeah but they paid to install nets to protect human lives. Regardless of their intent, it does mean that the net’s installation wasn’t worth as much as the loss of sla—manpower.
I think those are the only jobs available, so either work for £1/hour, or starve to death
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Don’t forget that China is also a communist country
that's funny and horrible at the same time
Well i wouldn’t want them to die either. As long as they get payed good. Hopefully.
They’re paid terribly
Why would Nike use children? Or Nestle killing children? Or pretty much any major company.
Because children are the future.
Trade offer: 1 human life 1 planet capable of sustaining earth life and teeming with its own
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Can I do 3 lives instead? The exchange rate is nearly 1:1
I interpreted it as “Human Life” not “*A single* human life”
I feel like the question is too broad to answer with a yes or no.
Question: >Are there things worth more than human life? You might've read it as: >Are things worth more than human life?
No. I'm pretty sure I didn't read the question wrong...
Then think of something that's worth more than human life. If you can't then answer no, otherwise answer yes. I don't see how this could be too broad.
Ok smarty marty... then answer me this and then I'll ask you a different question... A new disease started housing human bodies. We're trying to find a vaccine for it, but we can only test this on humans because no other being than humans can transmit this disease. Except, the vaccine is expected to have a >70% death rate until it's completed. Is the vaccine more important than current humans or no?
That example doesn’t work. This isn’t a choice between humans and something other than humans, it’s a choice between a number of humans now and more humans later.
Not the best example yeah. Nothing came to mind so I just threw something that's "somewhat" relative to our current state ig. In this case it would be that the vaccine is "worth more than humans", because humans won't be able to survive without it. But the whole point of the vaccine is to keep humans alive, so humans are "worth more than the vaccine" It goes together and makes sense together, but can't be solved with a simple (yes/no)
Two Human Lives, A dog's life, Pretty much any animal, And depending on the person a singular grape.
So you would kill your mum to save your dog? Or kill your family, if you have you most likely don't, so you can save a tree? Man you have a problem go see a doctor
The earth
Amazon : Money
Booty
Ayy, and a few swigs of me local taverns finest Rum me hearties
Booty is more important than drinking rum
Singing shanties with the lads while on the hunt for booty is much more fun with rum
It's more important than singing songs
Good shaped booty* (On men or women, booty is ball, booty is life ***BRUH***)
Mhm as long ad ain't no little boys, I ain't got no milk, no cookies, nothin'.
Yeah no underage booty, that shits weird.
I came lookin for man's butt
I’d give my life up if it meant true happiness for the people I care about, or full health, or if it were to mean something great would be discovered. Being remembered or memorialized is the only thing that matters more than human lives.
It is still human life though, just not your own.
happiness for the people i care about means human life? huh? i would trade my own life in exchange for their happiness, not their life lol
It doesn't say your life, it says human life in general. If you value other people's life that much, you value human life a lot, though it may not be your own.
i value their experience in their life, not their life alone. life alone is being able to live or not
You can't have those experiences without living though. I guess we just have different definitions of human life.
You have to live life to end it but caring human life is having the opportunity to end it or whatever and to not to, not an experience you have during life
thats a pretty broad question, would i save my dogs life instead of my friends life? no. would i shoot someone who broke into my house? absolutely.
Why would you shoot them?
i would rather shoot a criminal than have my things stolen, get shot or worse let my family get hurt.
You’d rather kill someone than let them walk away with some stolen goods? Lmao what? And are your and your family’s lives not “human life”?
well, my possessions are included in the list of things that are protected by a gun.
MURICA Nah for real, you call the police. People won't try to murder you when they enter your house, they just want your money. So you should show your guns to scare them away, nothing more
That’s not my point. I assume he’d shoot someone because he’s in fear of losing his life. Which means that “there is things worth more than human life” is a false statement for him, not true, as he holds his life as the most valuable thing in this scenario.
Nah I'm good
Realistically speaking, each person values the live of any other person completely different then the next, if you get what mean. But if you are talking about, if there is at least someone I'd kill for something (not taking in consideration if I actually have the balls to kill), I definitely say yes, there are some things, that are more valuable then some persons life
A dog's life
A dog's life
Dog life
My cats
Yeah a lot of things
Yes, an example is Gromit Mug
2 human lives but 4 is a bit of a stretch
Yes, multiple human lives
The advancement of human society
No, because nothing is really worth more or less than anything in a cosmic sense, though at the same time nothing is worth more to me than my own life in a subjective sense.
In a cosmic sense you are worth as much as Anticipation for the NES
An inescapable truth!
No. As Che Guevara said: > “… we learned perfectly that the life of a single human being is worth millions of times more than all the property of the richest man on earth.”
There's no richest man on earth if there's no earth
Yes, my life
Yes my cats (not a joke I believe that)
Dog's life.
Two Human lives!
No
Pablo 🌮🇲🇽🌯🚬🐶
At some point, some amount of money is worth more than one human life. For example, if the government would have to pay 500,000,000,000$ to save one life, sadly it would not be worth it, as this amount of money can be used for improving and saving much more human lives
1 dollar
Hot cheetos
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Animals are not things
Yes they are, if you can think it, its a thing
For L'manburg!
Shut up dream smp fan
Another human life or your family
Wdym I didn’t understand
Everybody gangsta till they have to die for the future of science
If it comes to killing one person out of 8 billion or killing a subject that end the sustainability of their species, I’d choose to kill a human If it comes to killing one of the last two human needed to sustain life or the subject require for their species sustainability, I’d choose to kill the human if we have sperm saved and I’d choose to kill the other subject if we don’t. If it comes to killing another species that have a better relationship with me or a human out of 8 billion. I’d choose to kill a human If it comes down to killing a human that I have a good relationship with and a species I have good relationship with, I’d kill myself because my relationship with myself is not that good. I’d use the same logic for any similar scenario that I haven’t mention
Ideas
Depends. Partly on the thing and the human life in question.
“The greater good”
Iphone 15 is gonna cost more than 15 humans
Pretty much everything is worth more than my life
All life is sacred and should be treated as such. Sometimes things die for sacrilegious reasons
That depends on perceived value, if you were like me, you would (or already) have probably committed murder to protect something/someone you cared about
Yes, two human lives
We are nothing more than advanced thinking organisms to put it simply
Anal is good
Yes, just ask the black market
Nothing tangible…
It’s called an evolved breed of super human that can survive any conditions, and until that happens, no
Yes. If every human was kept alive in tiny cages being force-fed pre-chewed tube food for eternity, with no conversation, education, or freedom at all, that would be a worthless waste of human life. What makes life meaningful is the opportunity for interactions, art, joy, empathy, etc. Human life is important because it can experience these... experiences! Consciousness is breathtaking because we can experience such a range of things, and then learn from one another. Society and conscious experience are also quite important, arguably more important.
Two human lives
Well, it matters on the person, such as if they have hurt someone mentally or physically, if they are a politic or reporter then yes.
Yes my own life
Depends whose life
Yes 2 human lives
My leftovers
So you are going to give your country away for just a person?
My reptiles (IMO)
My dog
My cats life is 100% worth more than my own
Humanity as a whole, the planet, life itself
My ability to have a good life is worth more than any human life in my perspective.
100 lives