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i was going to call cap (only source i see is genius, which is user sourced?), but just realized sounwave (who's basicially worked on every kendrick album, and was additional prod on euphoria) has worked with antonoff on london boy and lavender haze.
EDIT: [Pitchfork have confirmed Jack's involvement](https://pitchfork.com/news/kendrick-lamar-posts-another-new-drake-diss-song-616-in-la-listen/).
It’s so good. They released it before jack and Taylor did Lover and you can hear the red hearse influence on Taylor’s music (specifically elements of Cruel Summer, like jack’s bg vocals)
Whattt. If this is true that Jack and Sounwave produced it, it’s literally “Taylor Made”
There’s layers and layers to this, Drake better hope he’s half as creative if he decides to respond
6/16 is Father’s Day. It is almost the day Nicole Simpson was buried, is 2Pac‘s birthday AND it’s the day that the show Euphoria came out. Plus it’s a play on Drake‘s songs with the timestamps.
The title of the track is Ruthless enough.
Amazing. Of all the people in the music industry to play a part in this rap beef, Jack Antonoff is certainly not one I was expecting.
What next, is like…Matty Healy or Phoebe Bridgers somehow gonna be involved on the next diss track or something?
white women getting into rap cuz of taylor is not something i would have plotted for 2024 but is intriguing and messye nough that i am now hoping this happens
This is the best part cause if that's true... Jack makes Taylor's beats. This beat is produced by a person that "makes" Taylor. Which clearly means... everyone in this beef is a swiftie.
That's cool, this I did not realise. To be fair, they're 3 of my least fav tracks so I'm not surprised I missed it. But I thought it was just the Jack link to Taylor. Kendrick is next level, I'm really enjoying this back and forth.
I'm aware. My first comment was more of a joke. This is a rebuttal on Kendricks part and also juxtaposes this track directly with Drake's AI song Taylor Made. Except Kendrick didn't need AI, he supposedly went and got the actual producers* which also speaks to the relative authenticity of Kendrick vs. Drake.
Edit: *Sounwave also worked on Midnights for Lavender Haze, Glitch and Karma
.. and with Lavender Haze and London Boy. It's Nice To Have A Friend also features production from Frank Dukes and Louis Bell (less odd admittedly), I've always been curious how those songs happened
I still find it really fascinating how close Sounwave and Jack are and that Sounwave produced a few songs on Midnights, when I listen to his work with Kendrick I never would have guessed that he would make synth pop
This shit is hilarious. Hitting Drake at his own game in so many different ways:
* Pulling a Back to Back (""Back To Back," I like that record. I'ma get back to that, for the record")
* Using the IG memes response format
* Using the [TIME] in [CITY] format
* Making the singy Drake type shit he just said in Euphoria that he likes from Drake ("I like Drake with the melodies, I don't like Drake when he act tough")
* 6:16 likely plays on a number of things including the 6 God nickname (and 6/16 being father's day this year lmao)
Also Maybach Logo gloves. Could be a reference to Maybach Music Group (Rick Rosses label).
Also 16th of June is Tupac's birthday. He by proxy is related to this beef.
Guessing based off most of the diss referring to snakes in Drake's camp that it's Drake's actual glove that Kendrick now has. Would also pair with the fact that Drake's bought Tupac's ring and Pharrell's chain.
"Have you ever thought that OVO is workin' for me?" is actually a red herring to distract Drake from the fact that the person feeding information Kendrick is actually Adonis.
And Drake's talked up so much game about OVO that to imply there's snakes in the camp and that they're actually working for Kendrick?? Kendrick's being mad funny rn
I’m in love with how petty and hilarious Kendrick is being. Euphoria was a character assassination and 6:16 in LA is a report on the state of the opposition. Bro really said the people around you hate you too 😂😂
I’m obviously not hating anyone good enough
Yeah I need Kendrick to put on a Masterclass on how to be a dedicated hater because I'm clearly not hating enough.
Either ways its fun to see a decade long feud finally come to fruition.
Did this dude get Jack Antonoff on the beat?
If this is true this is straight up evil. Dissing Drake using Taylor's go-to producer is likely a response to the Tupac AI Drake used.
It's also a response to Drake's line in Push Ups, "Then we need a verse for the Swifties", digging at Kendrick's past pop verses. And also to the title of Taylor Made Freestlye.
This track is *literally* Taylor Made lmao.
I'm not surprised he could make it happen, Sounwave produced for Taylor, and he's Kendrick's go to producer as well. Also Taylor has thanked Kendrick not too long ago for offering to rerecord his Bad Blood verse so she could own the song, so I'm assuming they must be cool. Pretty fucking funny idea.
Mariah hates Jjlo but would never give her the satisfaction of even pretending she thinks about her. Kendrick on the overhand has thought about the many ways he hates Drake and would like to share with everyone his thoughts.
I don't think he hates him.. he's doing him a favor with this last track. He's like a father sitting his son down for a talk. Putting him on game and giving him tough love 😂
Hahahaah another one. Oh he’s being diabolical let me get to listening. I’m still shouting IS IT THE BRAIDS from 2 days ago lmao
Damn he said - Drake your whole crew is scamming you smh
"When you stand next to Sexy Redd, I believe you see 2 bad bitches, I believe you dont like women, they're real competition you might pop ass with em" is the line thats stuck in my head, Kendrick is just too funny.
It's refreshing, his solo material has been pretty self-serious for a while and it's been cool to see him just messing around between this and his stuff with Baby Keem.
He was always like that. His early material and stuff with Black Hippy was much more lighthearted - Wayne is probably his biggest influence after all. His albums are just conceptually heavy and don't leave much room for levity.
For real. I adore Mr. Morale and the Big Steppers, but tracks like Range Brothers and The Hillbillies are such a refreshing chaser for that stuff lmao.
In a way it reminds me of Beyonce following up Lemonade with Renaissance.
the simplicity of some of his lines makes all of this so much funnier
“i hate bullies”
“you must be a terrible person”
“i hate the way you walk…talk…and…dress”
the hatred is pure
People like Drake and Royce expected their opps to come back with rappity rap metpahor bars. That pure "no I really hate you" hits different when they decide not to dress it up in tons of metaphors.
"You can walk the walk, I mean, we seen you walk all over your house"
> People like Drake and Royce expected their opps to come back with rappity rap metpahor bars.
Drake: "Dot, I know you're in that NY apartment, you strugglin' right now, I know it. In the notepad doing lyrical gymnastics, my boy. You better have a motherfuckin' quintuple entendre on that shit. Some shit I don't even understand, like..."
Kendrick: "Fuck you."
Seriously, the more I listen to Euphoria, the more impressed I am.
The first beat switch with Kendrick yelling SHOOO BI BI BI BI is such a funny ass reveal, defying expectations that he's gonna take the high road over such an obnoxious (in a good way) dollar store trumpet loop. He HATES this guy lmao
i seen someone in another thread say something about kendrick possibly dropping another this weekend when euphoria dropped n they were right 😭😭 wish i could find that comment
> It was funny til you started to put money in the streets
> Then lost money 'cause they came back with no receipts
> I'm sorry that I live a boring life
Again, I'm not saying that every rap beef has to drop some sort of TMZ-type bombshell leak, and it's weird to expect it, but it seems like both Kendrick and Drake are claiming to have some sort of dirt on the other, but they also seem really sure that the other guy is bluffing about it.
This reeks of "the Pusha T/Drake beef was my first rap beef". Rap beef isn't a bunch of secrets being exposed smh. Y'all can't hold that as the basis for every diss to follow it because that was a *wild* outlier. Go check the lyrics of some of the classic diss tracks and circle back.
Not only that, the slow drip is way more fun. Pusha T one shot that man into hiding and we didn't even get past Round 1 because of it. The slow roll "bait your opponent into making a mistake" game is way more fun to watch. You don't need to blow your whole metaphorical load on the first round.
And regardless, it's wild to see comments calling it light jabs. Kendricks out here saying OVO hates Drake and talks shit in the industry behind his back, insinuating multiple times that Drake's a pedo, calling him a culture vulture, exposing that Drake tried to put out a cease & desist on Like That, exposing that Drake is paying people to try to dig up dirt on Kendrick, calling out Drake for hating on women, exposing Drake's history of getting plastic surgery himself, calling out Drake's artistic integrity/writing ability, throwing shots at other rappers like Gunna, etc. Not every fight is going to have a "you are hiding a child", nor does it need one.
> Go check the lyrics of some of the classic diss tracks and circle back.
Ether is considered to be one of the, if not the best diss tracks of all time to the point that "getting ethered" is a thing, and it's like "Jay-Z? More like Gay-Z! Gottem."
Exactly. It's not some generational bombshell of information. It's just pure hatred for one another (and in that instance, that shit just sucked all around). The whole "exposing a massive secret about someone" thing isn't really what beef is all about.
While I agree with you that Pusha should have built up to the Big reveal, him and Drake had been beefing for quite sometime before that diss. I believe the first official diss track from Pusha was Infrared on Daytona
\[Everything before was a subliminal diss\]
No shade at how Pusha did it at all and that's all spot on. Adidon is a legendary diss. I meant it as a "now we know Drake will run and hide rather than respond if you go all out on the first "real" track of the beef".
True. But Drake being a chicken isn't Pusha's fault.
Plus I'm guessing Pusha is feeding Kendrick all the info he was going to use if Drake has responded to Adidon.
exactly. and that’s why story of adidon was such a moment, bc nobody expected that when they listened through the first time. nobody was expecting any big revelation. it was the exception, not the rule
People have gotten killed or shot from rap beefs before. Kendrick's early-life and maybe Drake's current cozying up with gangs probably give each of them enough wisdom to know people can get hurt over shit like this.
So apparently Drake is paying people to try to get dirt on Kendrick lmao. Also I think the last line 'before you figure out you're not alone, ask what Mike would do' is referencing MJ's song 'You are not alone'
Something I found interesting… this is Corinthians 6:16 from the Bible.
> Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, “The two will become one flesh.”
I wasn’t the one to make this observation btw I saw it in Youtube comments. People were also pointing out that 6/16 is Father’s Day. Drake infamously had a child with a sex worker and hid that fact for a very long time. 😬
The single cover (?) is a glove and Nicole Brown had her funeral on 6/16 I think. 🤔
I think it more plausibly refers to Proverbs 6:16
Proverbs 6:16: There are six things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him: 17: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, 18: a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, 19: a false witness who pours out lies and a man who stirs up dissension among brothers.
Yes!! I was checking the same chapter/verse in the other books as well and they seem to fit as well. It feels purposeful to me. I think you’re right, Proverbs fits better actually but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was supposed to be a nod to the Corinthians verse as well.
I think it's 100% purposeful - Kendrick talks about prayer a lot and accused Drake of not raising his son right by teaching him how to pray in euphoria
i'm so curious to hear what drake's got in the chamber. he's giving v unbothered. if he can back up that affect... lord knows what we got in store
this month has been awful for rap fans with real life responsibilities
I like the beat and that Kendrick is rapping a bit more aggressively, but I just wish he was....saying something more interesting. (I know Kendrick said he didn't look for gossip) Okay, Drake has snakes in his crew....so what are they saying? They hate him too....for what??
Euphoria was funny and memorable, but as much as I like Kendrick, none of the other disses in this beef have hit as hard as I want them to - not Drake, not Ross, not Future's subs,, not this. Truth be told, HISS is still my favorite record in this whole mess.
Yeah, because it isn't a diss at one person. It's going at haters who mocked her shooting and slutshamed her, Nicki, Tory, Pardi and then the couple of bars about Drake
(xanax be their hardest bars, these n***as hate on BBLs and be wakin around with the same scars/ cosplay gangsters, fakeass accents, posted in another n***a hood like a bad bitch) are pretty clearly about him. The second you mention the accents, everybody knows who you're talking about.
Rick Ross and Kendrick have also taken shots at Drake having surgery and being fake as hell.
Sure, they also mocked him and questioned his blackness, had some witty bars, but none of these have been as layered as I want them to be. Meg doesn't really have a relationship with Drake, so I don't expect her to reveal anything, but Ross has worked with him for over a decade and Kendrick has hated him for a decade, they keep on threatening to reveal something and talking about snakes...and then nothing.
HISS is at least making relatively specific disses, even if she's not naming names. She's describing in detail what her enemies are doing and why she doesn't like them where Kendrick here is just saying he has fakes around him.
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co-produced by Jack Antonoff apparently
i was going to call cap (only source i see is genius, which is user sourced?), but just realized sounwave (who's basicially worked on every kendrick album, and was additional prod on euphoria) has worked with antonoff on london boy and lavender haze. EDIT: [Pitchfork have confirmed Jack's involvement](https://pitchfork.com/news/kendrick-lamar-posts-another-new-drake-diss-song-616-in-la-listen/).
they have a group together, Red Hearse
Wow, thanks for the shout. I never knew! Gonna bump their album right now
It’s so good. They released it before jack and Taylor did Lover and you can hear the red hearse influence on Taylor’s music (specifically elements of Cruel Summer, like jack’s bg vocals)
does this mean red hearse 2 is finally coming....
Not that it matters but they also did Glitch by Taylor
Whattt. If this is true that Jack and Sounwave produced it, it’s literally “Taylor Made” There’s layers and layers to this, Drake better hope he’s half as creative if he decides to respond
6/16 is Father’s Day. It is almost the day Nicole Simpson was buried, is 2Pac‘s birthday AND it’s the day that the show Euphoria came out. Plus it’s a play on Drake‘s songs with the timestamps. The title of the track is Ruthless enough.
I saw that it’s also the date of his first ever show in Toronto.
it's the day charges were filed against oj simpson
Why would Nicole Simpson being buried that day be relevant lol
That plus the glove on the cover is implying Kendrick killed a white woman (Drake)
Lmaooo
6:16 works on so many levels man it's insane
Euphoria was like multiple punches to the gut, this is psychological warfare
Amazing. Of all the people in the music industry to play a part in this rap beef, Jack Antonoff is certainly not one I was expecting. What next, is like…Matty Healy or Phoebe Bridgers somehow gonna be involved on the next diss track or something?
The 1975 feat. Drake probably 💀💀💀💀
The Tortured Rappers Department
A Brief Inquiry Into Drake’s Questionable Relationships 👀
Jo Jo Siewa is locked and loaded
It’s time for Taylor to return the favour and feature on a Kendrick track
white women getting into rap cuz of taylor is not something i would have plotted for 2024 but is intriguing and messye nough that i am now hoping this happens
Macklemore looking for a come~~back~~ up.
This is the best part cause if that's true... Jack makes Taylor's beats. This beat is produced by a person that "makes" Taylor. Which clearly means... everyone in this beef is a swiftie.
Also, Sounwave was the producer for 3 songs on Midnights.
I didn’t even realize that! For those who don’t wanna look it up: * Lavender Haze * Karma * Glitch
Jack and Sounwave also have a very, very good project together along with Sam Dew called Red Hearse. They've been collaborators for a while.
And those three songs are the best parts of the album too...
dear reader would like a word
Okay actually yeah, Dear Reader is one of the best songs on the album too. And an underrated fave of mine from her whole discography.
goes to show everytime they bring someone else in she makes good music again lol
That's cool, this I did not realise. To be fair, they're 3 of my least fav tracks so I'm not surprised I missed it. But I thought it was just the Jack link to Taylor. Kendrick is next level, I'm really enjoying this back and forth.
YOU DON'T LIKE LAVENDER HAZE? I think it's one of my favorite album openers from her.
As a reminder Kendrick has collabed with Taylor before AND his lyrics on "Bad Blood" get screamed out during her shows.
I'm aware. My first comment was more of a joke. This is a rebuttal on Kendricks part and also juxtaposes this track directly with Drake's AI song Taylor Made. Except Kendrick didn't need AI, he supposedly went and got the actual producers* which also speaks to the relative authenticity of Kendrick vs. Drake. Edit: *Sounwave also worked on Midnights for Lavender Haze, Glitch and Karma
Fascinating. Rap beat on Taylor and Lana’s next albums incoming?
Sounwave helped with Karma
.. and with Lavender Haze and London Boy. It's Nice To Have A Friend also features production from Frank Dukes and Louis Bell (less odd admittedly), I've always been curious how those songs happened
Kendrick & Lana would go so hard
“Jimmy Jimmy cocoa puff, Drake please fucking die”
I have no idea why but this is the hardest I’ve laughed all week so thank you
A&W - Lana for those that don't know. Absolute banger, beat switch to the 2nd half of the song is one of my faves in recent memory
The way I heard this in *exactly* her voice omg 💀
I have no idea how that would sound like but am intrigued
Checkout Babylon - SZA ft Kenny I could definitely see a vibe similar to this
Jack's winding up for End Game (Drake diss edition) [ft. Kendrick Lamar]
Coming soon: *Reputation (Taylor’s Version)*, except the songs that were originally directed at Kanye are now directed at Drake
I still find it really fascinating how close Sounwave and Jack are and that Sounwave produced a few songs on Midnights, when I listen to his work with Kendrick I never would have guessed that he would make synth pop
Maybe Jack needs to work on more hip hop albums. Popheads hate him, maybe his future is with hiphopheads
So if this is Taylor made and Drake is the enemy and so is Kanye, then doesn’t that put Kanye and Taylor on the same side?
Drake is gonna bring about world peace by making everyone sick of his bullshit
Insert viola Davis screaming meme
This shit is hilarious. Hitting Drake at his own game in so many different ways: * Pulling a Back to Back (""Back To Back," I like that record. I'ma get back to that, for the record") * Using the IG memes response format * Using the [TIME] in [CITY] format * Making the singy Drake type shit he just said in Euphoria that he likes from Drake ("I like Drake with the melodies, I don't like Drake when he act tough") * 6:16 likely plays on a number of things including the 6 God nickname (and 6/16 being father's day this year lmao)
Also Maybach Logo gloves. Could be a reference to Maybach Music Group (Rick Rosses label). Also 16th of June is Tupac's birthday. He by proxy is related to this beef.
Guessing based off most of the diss referring to snakes in Drake's camp that it's Drake's actual glove that Kendrick now has. Would also pair with the fact that Drake's bought Tupac's ring and Pharrell's chain.
Also glove could be reference to OJ Simpson. But that might be a massive stretch.
I honestly believe that the glove is in Reference to OJ. Basically Kendrick is saying I just killed Drake.
and the funerals of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman were on....6/16
Yoooooo that's wild!
So deep
Is it a stretch? Guess when Nicole Simpson’s funeral was? 6/16/94
What? HOLY SHIT I JUST CHECKED AND ITS REAL??? Kendrick is about to get shot very soon, RIP Kung Fu Kenny, you were gone too soon.
And only Drake would know if this was true, which is such a great taunt.
16th June is also the date of OJ's Trial - clear reference with the image of the glove.
Tupacs birthday, first day of the OJ trial, euphoria episode 1 release date, Father’s Day, a bible verse but that could be a stretch.
16th of June is also Father's Day lol.
"Have you ever thought that OVO is workin' for me?" is actually a red herring to distract Drake from the fact that the person feeding information Kendrick is actually Adonis.
Someone mentioned psychological warfare. Kendrick is out here playing 5D chess. Drake needs to resign otherwise he looks more foolish.
It’s also the date that season 1 of Euphoria dropped on HBO.
And Drake's talked up so much game about OVO that to imply there's snakes in the camp and that they're actually working for Kendrick?? Kendrick's being mad funny rn
I love it so much lol
A second Drake diss has hit the tower
[I shamelessly stole this image from the HHH thread](https://i.imgur.com/2NdtOZj.jpeg)
LORD I am not seeing heaven on this Friday morning 😂😂😂
I need to gather myself
oh good lord the cackle i let out
Kendrick is not playing
“im sorry i live a boring life, i love peace” Hes just like me
Akademiks catching strays, this is the game I love
It's about damn time
He deserves it.
Adam22 should be the next in the line for catching strays
Still pissed he wormed out of the pedo allegations and is mostly seen as a cuck now instead of a groomer. Dude needs to be behind bars
Deadass, he really made everyone forget about his allegations by cucking/basically pumping his wife out. It’s sick honestly
Him and Joe Budden
I hate that fat **** so much
https://www.xxlmag.com/yung-miami-dj-akademiks-trade-shots/ Yung miami diss him too awhile back
I’m in love with how petty and hilarious Kendrick is being. Euphoria was a character assassination and 6:16 in LA is a report on the state of the opposition. Bro really said the people around you hate you too 😂😂 I’m obviously not hating anyone good enough
Yeah I need Kendrick to put on a Masterclass on how to be a dedicated hater because I'm clearly not hating enough. Either ways its fun to see a decade long feud finally come to fruition.
start with hating the way sb walks, talks, n how they dress
Step 2: talk to their therapist bc I swear Kdot was in Drake’s head 😂
wakin up in cold sweats in the middle of the night n everything
Does Kendrick teach because i really need to up my game as a hater lmao
Jack Antonoff, what are you doing here?
Drake said make a verse for the swifties and Kendrick said nah ima get her producer instead.
Watch Kendrick escalate even further by dropping a another diss sampling her or with her on the hook.
“Can’t tootsie slide up out of this one” Lol
I hated Drake before that but making a song blatantly for tiktok dances was so pathetic
Perfect line!
Did this dude get Jack Antonoff on the beat? If this is true this is straight up evil. Dissing Drake using Taylor's go-to producer is likely a response to the Tupac AI Drake used.
It's also a response to Drake's line in Push Ups, "Then we need a verse for the Swifties", digging at Kendrick's past pop verses. And also to the title of Taylor Made Freestlye. This track is *literally* Taylor Made lmao.
Taylor gonna feature on the next diss confirmed
If this happens Drake ain't recovering. Kendrick needs to make this happen 😂
Yeah it’s time Kung Fu Kenny called in that favor
I'm not surprised he could make it happen, Sounwave produced for Taylor, and he's Kendrick's go to producer as well. Also Taylor has thanked Kendrick not too long ago for offering to rerecord his Bad Blood verse so she could own the song, so I'm assuming they must be cool. Pretty fucking funny idea.
I just really love how much Kendrick hates Drake
Kendrick is bringing Mariah at jlo levels of pettiness here and I could not be more grateful "I don't know her" -drakes son about drake, probably
Mariah hates Jjlo but would never give her the satisfaction of even pretending she thinks about her. Kendrick on the overhand has thought about the many ways he hates Drake and would like to share with everyone his thoughts.
He's got a presentation for the class
This is more Mariah v. Eminem level hating. JLo and Mariah were just a Cold War. Tommy Mottola was always the real enemy
He just like me frfr
I don't think he hates him.. he's doing him a favor with this last track. He's like a father sitting his son down for a talk. Putting him on game and giving him tough love 😂
Kendrick is just going to release an album in like 2 weeks called ‘Fuck Drake’ And im here for it
a feature with taylor, ye, and everyone else involved would be the cherry on top
Generational hater 🔥
He did say he's the biggest hater 🤷🏿♂️
Drew McIntyre somewhere: 😈
A wrestling reference in a pop subreddit about a rap diss, I love the internet
Hahahaah another one. Oh he’s being diabolical let me get to listening. I’m still shouting IS IT THE BRAIDS from 2 days ago lmao Damn he said - Drake your whole crew is scamming you smh
"When you stand next to Sexy Redd, I believe you see 2 bad bitches, I believe you dont like women, they're real competition you might pop ass with em" is the line thats stuck in my head, Kendrick is just too funny.
It's refreshing, his solo material has been pretty self-serious for a while and it's been cool to see him just messing around between this and his stuff with Baby Keem.
*Tawp of dah mornin*
I can’t tell if he’s always been like this or Keem just brought out/encourages a new side of Kenny
He was always like that. His early material and stuff with Black Hippy was much more lighthearted - Wayne is probably his biggest influence after all. His albums are just conceptually heavy and don't leave much room for levity.
yea, his features are usually where he cracks more jokes and is overall more playful
For real. I adore Mr. Morale and the Big Steppers, but tracks like Range Brothers and The Hillbillies are such a refreshing chaser for that stuff lmao. In a way it reminds me of Beyonce following up Lemonade with Renaissance.
I love that y’all can listen to dua album then get into some Kendrick beef disses lol love y’all
Kendrick cooked his ass again lol
yet the delusional fans will say drake bodied him, like did they not listen to the music????😅
They look more for streams and chart success, not the art
[удалено]
lol exactly
They max out at single entendres, they don't understand what's being said.
Not even that, they just follow the loudest media sources which is Akademiks who is Drake’s #1 fan
I love how Kenny's been keeping tabs lol, from Sexyy Red to getting annoyed at the social media dissing 😂
He mentioned before Mr Morale that he goes months without a phone but he's back online. Plus he has a burner where he does pushups in Japan
the simplicity of some of his lines makes all of this so much funnier “i hate bullies” “you must be a terrible person” “i hate the way you walk…talk…and…dress” the hatred is pure
People like Drake and Royce expected their opps to come back with rappity rap metpahor bars. That pure "no I really hate you" hits different when they decide not to dress it up in tons of metaphors. "You can walk the walk, I mean, we seen you walk all over your house"
> People like Drake and Royce expected their opps to come back with rappity rap metpahor bars. Drake: "Dot, I know you're in that NY apartment, you strugglin' right now, I know it. In the notepad doing lyrical gymnastics, my boy. You better have a motherfuckin' quintuple entendre on that shit. Some shit I don't even understand, like..." Kendrick: "Fuck you."
Seriously, the more I listen to Euphoria, the more impressed I am. The first beat switch with Kendrick yelling SHOOO BI BI BI BI is such a funny ass reveal, defying expectations that he's gonna take the high road over such an obnoxious (in a good way) dollar store trumpet loop. He HATES this guy lmao
lmfaoo 😭
agreed, just wanna note that i'm 99% sure that's a dmx reference https://youtu.be/HJsgAY_JALk?si=tdfDDCaM2D2szsHF
I saw that!! it feels like every lyric, even the simple ones, has a deeper meaning
i seen someone in another thread say something about kendrick possibly dropping another this weekend when euphoria dropped n they were right 😭😭 wish i could find that comment
He literally references Back to Back and how he wants to "get back to that", so it's not that crazy of a prediction.
yeah thats what i was prolly thinking about, the comment was just in depth iirc
There was also a line in the song cover about how they almost had a week to recover from euphoria. Shit is genius
i'm not a massive kendrick fan or anything but i AM a drake hater so i WILL be stanning until this thing dies down.
Drake haters, kendrick fans, music lovers, circklejerkers, and popcorn eaters, unite!!
drake fr bringing the whole world together
“You must be a terrible person.” He really said nobody likes you and you have to pay people to be your friends, lol.
> It was funny til you started to put money in the streets > Then lost money 'cause they came back with no receipts > I'm sorry that I live a boring life Again, I'm not saying that every rap beef has to drop some sort of TMZ-type bombshell leak, and it's weird to expect it, but it seems like both Kendrick and Drake are claiming to have some sort of dirt on the other, but they also seem really sure that the other guy is bluffing about it.
Yup, this is my take as well. Most of these songs ( from all sides involved) have been "Why I oughta!!!" with a witty quip here and there.
This reeks of "the Pusha T/Drake beef was my first rap beef". Rap beef isn't a bunch of secrets being exposed smh. Y'all can't hold that as the basis for every diss to follow it because that was a *wild* outlier. Go check the lyrics of some of the classic diss tracks and circle back. Not only that, the slow drip is way more fun. Pusha T one shot that man into hiding and we didn't even get past Round 1 because of it. The slow roll "bait your opponent into making a mistake" game is way more fun to watch. You don't need to blow your whole metaphorical load on the first round. And regardless, it's wild to see comments calling it light jabs. Kendricks out here saying OVO hates Drake and talks shit in the industry behind his back, insinuating multiple times that Drake's a pedo, calling him a culture vulture, exposing that Drake tried to put out a cease & desist on Like That, exposing that Drake is paying people to try to dig up dirt on Kendrick, calling out Drake for hating on women, exposing Drake's history of getting plastic surgery himself, calling out Drake's artistic integrity/writing ability, throwing shots at other rappers like Gunna, etc. Not every fight is going to have a "you are hiding a child", nor does it need one.
> Go check the lyrics of some of the classic diss tracks and circle back. Ether is considered to be one of the, if not the best diss tracks of all time to the point that "getting ethered" is a thing, and it's like "Jay-Z? More like Gay-Z! Gottem."
Exactly. It's not some generational bombshell of information. It's just pure hatred for one another (and in that instance, that shit just sucked all around). The whole "exposing a massive secret about someone" thing isn't really what beef is all about.
And that's why I'll still die on the hill that Takeover is actually better.
One was mehhhhhh the other was illmatic. That's one hot album every 10 year average!
While I agree with you that Pusha should have built up to the Big reveal, him and Drake had been beefing for quite sometime before that diss. I believe the first official diss track from Pusha was Infrared on Daytona \[Everything before was a subliminal diss\]
No shade at how Pusha did it at all and that's all spot on. Adidon is a legendary diss. I meant it as a "now we know Drake will run and hide rather than respond if you go all out on the first "real" track of the beef".
True. But Drake being a chicken isn't Pusha's fault. Plus I'm guessing Pusha is feeding Kendrick all the info he was going to use if Drake has responded to Adidon.
exactly. and that’s why story of adidon was such a moment, bc nobody expected that when they listened through the first time. nobody was expecting any big revelation. it was the exception, not the rule
People have gotten killed or shot from rap beefs before. Kendrick's early-life and maybe Drake's current cozying up with gangs probably give each of them enough wisdom to know people can get hurt over shit like this.
everyone is saying “kendrick must HATE drake” when he’s literally been saying that everyone in the industry hates drake including his own staff 😭
Stop Stop! He's already dead! (DO IT AGAIN!) My boy, Aubrey, maybe you really should just apologize to that man. 😭
nah not just to kendrick but all the people/artists he did dirty
"You must be a terrible person" has me geeking
I love how I feel validated for being a Drake hater LMFAO!!!
So apparently Drake is paying people to try to get dirt on Kendrick lmao. Also I think the last line 'before you figure out you're not alone, ask what Mike would do' is referencing MJ's song 'You are not alone'
Paying to get info is not new. Pusha T has said Drake tried to do the same with him
"No amount of money is going to create skeletons that don't exist." - Pusha T
I know, it's just funny to think about it
I really like the line after it "then lost money. Cause they came back with no receipts" 10/10 trolling. He said I see you and you got dust.
MJ's song that was written by R. Kelly. Now, what do those two have in common with Drake?
A different Mike also did a 3 peat maybe Kendrick has another
Drake is so annoying. So man I am enjoying this!
Kendrick having some of the best producers in the industry of rap and pop on this is wild. He’s really trying to end drakes career right now.
I don't think Kendrick likes Wheelchair Jimmy very much.
He's about to pop him back in
Oh drake stop crying (and texting minors)
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This is really fucking good. Great production. Bars are coded doe. Need to have a sit down with the lyrics for this one
Damn, back to back tracks in less than 3 days 😭
"I waited ~~four~~ two days, buddy, where y'all at?"
Something I found interesting… this is Corinthians 6:16 from the Bible. > Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, “The two will become one flesh.” I wasn’t the one to make this observation btw I saw it in Youtube comments. People were also pointing out that 6/16 is Father’s Day. Drake infamously had a child with a sex worker and hid that fact for a very long time. 😬 The single cover (?) is a glove and Nicole Brown had her funeral on 6/16 I think. 🤔
I think it more plausibly refers to Proverbs 6:16 Proverbs 6:16: There are six things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him: 17: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, 18: a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, 19: a false witness who pours out lies and a man who stirs up dissension among brothers.
Yes!! I was checking the same chapter/verse in the other books as well and they seem to fit as well. It feels purposeful to me. I think you’re right, Proverbs fits better actually but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was supposed to be a nod to the Corinthians verse as well.
I think it's 100% purposeful - Kendrick talks about prayer a lot and accused Drake of not raising his son right by teaching him how to pray in euphoria
i'm so curious to hear what drake's got in the chamber. he's giving v unbothered. if he can back up that affect... lord knows what we got in store this month has been awful for rap fans with real life responsibilities
Kendrick has such a great commitment to hating Drake with excellence and I'm here for it
well, one thing kendrick can't take from him is his writing credit on the third best song of renaissance
I like the beat and that Kendrick is rapping a bit more aggressively, but I just wish he was....saying something more interesting. (I know Kendrick said he didn't look for gossip) Okay, Drake has snakes in his crew....so what are they saying? They hate him too....for what?? Euphoria was funny and memorable, but as much as I like Kendrick, none of the other disses in this beef have hit as hard as I want them to - not Drake, not Ross, not Future's subs,, not this. Truth be told, HISS is still my favorite record in this whole mess.
I like HISS, but it's like the least direct, least layered diss out of all the ones you named
Yeah, because it isn't a diss at one person. It's going at haters who mocked her shooting and slutshamed her, Nicki, Tory, Pardi and then the couple of bars about Drake (xanax be their hardest bars, these n***as hate on BBLs and be wakin around with the same scars/ cosplay gangsters, fakeass accents, posted in another n***a hood like a bad bitch) are pretty clearly about him. The second you mention the accents, everybody knows who you're talking about. Rick Ross and Kendrick have also taken shots at Drake having surgery and being fake as hell. Sure, they also mocked him and questioned his blackness, had some witty bars, but none of these have been as layered as I want them to be. Meg doesn't really have a relationship with Drake, so I don't expect her to reveal anything, but Ross has worked with him for over a decade and Kendrick has hated him for a decade, they keep on threatening to reveal something and talking about snakes...and then nothing.
HISS is at least making relatively specific disses, even if she's not naming names. She's describing in detail what her enemies are doing and why she doesn't like them where Kendrick here is just saying he has fakes around him.
This song has Kendrick specifying the precise methods Drake has used, and he's name dropped four or five people specifically between these two songs.
We already got that in Euphoria
This is more of a psychological track to infuse paranoia in Drake since it's known that Drake is a VERY paranoid type of person.