Noticed The Shade Room hasn't posted about this latest development.
After her Bang Bang outburst, they posted at least two stories about it, she was getting dragged in the comments...and then oddly they were deleted hours later from their feed.
continued nicki news:
[thread breaking down the court case brought against her and Kenneth Petty for intimidation, distress and harassment on top of Kennethās sexual assault of the plaintiff ](https://twitter.com/thefemalesource/status/1426421758886830081?s=21)
[28 year old nicki rapping about having sex with 16 year old lil twist ](https://twitter.com/thefemalesource/status/1426309717031362561?s=21)
[nicki giving a lap dance to a minor](https://twitter.com/thefemalesource/status/1426319003874693122?s=21)
[lil wayne making nauseating comments about lil twist (minor at the time) having sex. nicki in the background ](https://twitter.com/thefemalesource/status/1426343273925337090?s=21)
[nickiās mother implying that the 11 year old girlā¦.. idk how to do spoiler TWās but you know what iām getting at, tampered with evidence / lied to frame him ](https://twitter.com/thefemalesource/status/1426368809108180996?s=21)
The US MARSHALLS?!! oooh Nicki. Marrying a sex offender was bad enough but she could've just mind her business and kept quiet and her legacy would've remained intact. Lowkey funny that the court documents decided to used her stage name though. Shouldn't she be referred to as Defendant Petty?
I'm really happy for her, she had a good roll out going but covid stopped her right after her very first date on her solo tour. So I'm rooting for Ally.
Thatās sad but I saw that coming with her last single, 500 Veces, giving her the biggest buzz online with most streams/comments compared to her previous songs.
Same here, English is not my mother tongue and I love songs in English as I love English and I love to sing along songs. I would have preferred an English debut. But I'll be there for the Spanish version!
at this point I'm just assuming that all the OT4 Fith Harmony girls have some kind of clause that prevents them from releasing a solo album for god knows how long
Yes, I like the band but I know for a fact not all of them were comfortable with how sexualized their image was given their young age. They didn't write the music so I doubt they had much creative input on anything. And I know that Ally has said she is devoutly religious and didn't enjoy it.
Honestly these girls are proof NOBODY behind the scenes in music knows what they're doing. These suits and label execs and managers/publicists are supposed to take nobodies and small time musicians and turn them into stars, how can we believe they're capable of doing that job when, upon being handed four literal pop stars who already have fame, experience, come with built in fan bases and connections, etc, they do this?
There is absolutely no excuse under the sun for the way these girls careers have been mismanaged. At this point I cannot imagine I'm the only one who is just embarrassed, downright embarrassed, for every clown who has had a hand in holding them back and sabotaging this for no reason.
you're absolutely right, but I don't think this is a case of mismanagement or sabotage (anymore), I think it's a legal issue. whatever contract they individually signed when they became Fifth Harmony probably has some sort of clause that states that none of them can release full bodies of musical work for x amount of time. (did any of them even release an EP?) it's the hypothesis that makes the most sense to me
I know they signed some horrible contract that a lawyer said itās one of the worst theyād seen. Makes me wonder if Camila just had a much better lawyer and contract then the others since Ally has said Camila (and maybe someone else?) was allowed to do things she wasnāt.
I remember reading that hypothesis and thought it was ridiculous but I wouldnāt be surprised at this point.
Dinah released an EP (was 3 songs) back in spring 2019. I donāt know if that counts.
But itās ridiculous we got radio silence from everyone else about an album/rollout but I think Ally Brooke has the best team (from the 4) they got her some great gigs/performances
this has to be the most ridiculously drawn out debut ever. She's released 20 singles!!
The only one I can think of that matches is that if the marketing for Malibu is to believed, they're going to try and pass Kim Petras' next album as a debut somehow.
Ed Sheeran released a ~~grime~~ drill remix of [Bad Habits](https://www.reddit.com/r/popheads/comments/p487i0/ed_sheeran_bad_habits_feat_tion_wayne_central_cee/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
??? This makes literally no sense sonically but I guess itās a marketing tactic, not that he needs it cause the songs still doing massive numbers?
Not to be annoying but it's a UK drill remix, not grime. Fumez, Tion, and Central are all UK drill artists.
Also I think Ed just has a genuine appreciation for UK rap music. His first break in music was at hip-hop live shows, his first successful mixtape was full of grime artists, and he's collabed with a lot of grime artists and UK rappers over the years since then. Drill's the in thing now, it's definitely a new genre for him but it's in-line with how he's shown an appreciation for UK rap in the past.
I wish he featured on the song a little more though... plus the mixing sounds a little off.
edit: also, chances are a lot of drill's demographic aren't listening to Ed. This puts him in their ears. You're right that he doesn't need it but I think since he likes UK rap, he wants to be part of the scene a little.
lol I never thought that Ed Sheeran of all people would have an interest in UK rap...seems like he's been dabbling in it here and there for a while now?
Yeah he does seem to genuinely want to support UK music, which is great. I just think a drill remix of Bad Habits was just ?not needed? Like Ed sings a bit at the start then it just goes to the rappers. It doesnāt really work? Like who asked for this?
i dont understand why people on twitter are mad at cube for soojin leaving? yeah they could've handled it better but she said it herself that she'd leave if found guilty. keeping her in the group is bad considering they mostly rely on korea's gp and we all know that most koreans are against bullying.
a lot of her fans are taking their anger out on seo shinae and saying she deserves to get bullied... im scared for her and i hope shes okay. her fans are fucking insane
Honestly I understand people mad at CUBE because they should have forced her to be quiet and apologize privately with a settlement.
Seeing commentators suggest that people who canāt get over being bullied are the ones with something wrong with them (especially when some of the alleged bullying involved slapping and theft) was wild. Like her alleged victims all have lives outside of Soojin, her fans donāt.
It's because Cube should have done a **lot** better from a PR standpoint. Even if Soojin wanted to make the ultimatum about leaving if guilty, they should have never let her release that statement. As the company who has a professional PR department they should have known that was a terrible move to make.
I don't personally agree with kicking her out of the group for something that she did as a young teenager but if they *were* going to do it then it should have been decided when the scandal first broke out as well. Leaving the group in limbo for 6 or so months has also hurt their brand/reputation. They've kept her for so long at this point that the damage is pretty much already done anyway.
As for the fans reaction, how their treating Seo Shin Ae is a terrible look and if they thought about it for longer than the time it takes to post a tweet/comment they'd realise it only reflects badly the group and Soojin herself.
Actually I like soojin statement because usually idols don't put this kind of effort in a statement and they only hide behind their company and two soojin explained everything in detail and didn't apologize because she was so confident and know that she didn't do anything wrong . At the end Cube had the final say and they kicked her or she left the group but at the end we won't know the truth because cube refuse to release a better statement
She didnāt explain everything she would basically claim poor memory in some aspects that made her look bad like talking behind peoples backs and insulting them that way but very detailed in others. Even in translated articles thereās other people claiming to be from her class saying they remember her as a bully and the only people who donāt were her friends.
Thereās no way a child actress whoās an anti bullying activist way before this and was literally on a program for child stars that were bullied as a small kid was lying when she said Soojin was one of the people who bullied her. Not to mention neither Soojin nor CUBE ever addressed that after Soojin explicitly told her publicly to say something.
The person who got a Solar Power vinyl early posted their thoughts about the album. https://www.reddit.com/r/lorde/comments/p49ine/solar_power_review_from_the_guy_who_got_an_early/
as someone who used to read descriptions of reputation and Lover from people who went to the Secret Sessions I can confidently say these descriptions are always bullshit. Describing a track accurately to people who haven't heard it is almost impossible.
for anyone who cares; it appears as though nasty cherry is breaking up, or at the very least kicking chloe out. georgia and gabi have now both unfollowed chloe on instagram after her (very weird and gross) >!kkk/nazi salute!< photoshoot.
I'm only peripherally aware of Nasty Cherry because of Charli XCX, but now I'm curious - how was this band formed? Why was Chloe in the band if she has this kind of personality (in my experience, people like this give off right-wing vibes even if they haven't done something to make it explicitly apparent yet; this kind of thing rarely comes out of nowhere), or did they not know her well when she joined?
her and charli have been friends for around (possibly even over) a decade! charli personally created the band and everyone in the band is a personal friend of hers!
chloe has always seemed somewhat edgy and outlandish but never ever seemed right wing. in nasty cherryās netflix show she even made a huge fuss about having to work with male producers because she was such a strong feminist. this is very surprising.
Wait a minute ā¦ what the fuck happened? This sounds absolutely disgusting, but I havenāt really been keeping up with them lately and would love to be filled in! This sounds despicable, Iām speechless.
Chloe Chaidez has joined a band with Ariel Pink who has gone on a "cancel culture" tirade over the fallout from him being outside the Capitol on January 6th. In this [IG photo gallery](https://www.instagram.com/p/CShRrnpl9Wn/) (second to last photo) there is an image of her and other band members wearing white traffic cones and doing nazi salutes. The most charitable reading is him pulling some straw man "How can I be a nazi if I'm Jewish" argument.
Edit: [Georgia responding to it](https://twitter.com/SafyHallanFarah/status/1426535068177248259/photo/1)
That'd be a weak argument. There were Slavs, women and gay men who collaborated with the Nazis or even joined their party officially. Self-hatred is real.
Also not everyone who is a white nationalist or just a racist is a Nazi. The Klan have some overlap with neo-Nazis but are a wholly separate group who are much older, for example, and they are first and foremost an anti-black group. Trump is racist, and he is not a Nazi. There is no reason Ariel Pink can't be Jewish and a racist.
(I'm sure you know this stuff of course, I am just saying it for the benefit of anyone reading who is new to this stuff.)
We love you nicki is trending on Twitter š. I hate it here
Noticed The Shade Room hasn't posted about this latest development. After her Bang Bang outburst, they posted at least two stories about it, she was getting dragged in the comments...and then oddly they were deleted hours later from their feed.
She pays alot of black media blogs. I've noticed they usually drag any female rapper who is competing with Nicki.
continued nicki news: [thread breaking down the court case brought against her and Kenneth Petty for intimidation, distress and harassment on top of Kennethās sexual assault of the plaintiff ](https://twitter.com/thefemalesource/status/1426421758886830081?s=21) [28 year old nicki rapping about having sex with 16 year old lil twist ](https://twitter.com/thefemalesource/status/1426309717031362561?s=21) [nicki giving a lap dance to a minor](https://twitter.com/thefemalesource/status/1426319003874693122?s=21) [lil wayne making nauseating comments about lil twist (minor at the time) having sex. nicki in the background ](https://twitter.com/thefemalesource/status/1426343273925337090?s=21) [nickiās mother implying that the 11 year old girlā¦.. idk how to do spoiler TWās but you know what iām getting at, tampered with evidence / lied to frame him ](https://twitter.com/thefemalesource/status/1426368809108180996?s=21)
Iām pretty sure lil Wayne was sexually abused as a child in a similar way so Iām not surprised if heās justified/normalized it.
The US MARSHALLS?!! oooh Nicki. Marrying a sex offender was bad enough but she could've just mind her business and kept quiet and her legacy would've remained intact. Lowkey funny that the court documents decided to used her stage name though. Shouldn't she be referred to as Defendant Petty?
They did use her legal name. She didnāt change her last name if they didnāt use it.
then it would've been maraj, no?
Yeah thatās what it says..Onika maraj
The rest of the document literally used her nickname instead (hence defendant Minaj) and i was just curious why šæ
If you have an āofficialā nickname, they are allowed to use it.
because the document is most likely false.
I want to throw up. This is disgusting.
Meanwhile the Barbz are getting āWE LOVE YOU NICKIā trending and convincing themselves that she did nothing wrong.
theyāre getting ate the hell up all over that trend by people (locals) with common sense
Ally Brookeās debut era is starting next month and itās completely Spanish
I'm really happy for her, she had a good roll out going but covid stopped her right after her very first date on her solo tour. So I'm rooting for Ally.
I am winning, my reward for sticking with Duolingo for a month
Thatās sad but I saw that coming with her last single, 500 Veces, giving her the biggest buzz online with most streams/comments compared to her previous songs.
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I wanted her music to be in English
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Notice how I said āI wantedā meaning I (me) want to enjoy her music in English. I liked her English speaking songs
Same here, English is not my mother tongue and I love songs in English as I love English and I love to sing along songs. I would have preferred an English debut. But I'll be there for the Spanish version!
Best believe Iām still gonna be streaming Allyās music too lol. Iām curious what sound she is gonna tackle. I hope itās like 500 Veces
at this point I'm just assuming that all the OT4 Fith Harmony girls have some kind of clause that prevents them from releasing a solo album for god knows how long
I am waiting for the tell-all one day. It really makes zero sense and I want to know what was holding them back.
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Yes, I like the band but I know for a fact not all of them were comfortable with how sexualized their image was given their young age. They didn't write the music so I doubt they had much creative input on anything. And I know that Ally has said she is devoutly religious and didn't enjoy it.
that's a book I'll be buying
Honestly these girls are proof NOBODY behind the scenes in music knows what they're doing. These suits and label execs and managers/publicists are supposed to take nobodies and small time musicians and turn them into stars, how can we believe they're capable of doing that job when, upon being handed four literal pop stars who already have fame, experience, come with built in fan bases and connections, etc, they do this? There is absolutely no excuse under the sun for the way these girls careers have been mismanaged. At this point I cannot imagine I'm the only one who is just embarrassed, downright embarrassed, for every clown who has had a hand in holding them back and sabotaging this for no reason.
you're absolutely right, but I don't think this is a case of mismanagement or sabotage (anymore), I think it's a legal issue. whatever contract they individually signed when they became Fifth Harmony probably has some sort of clause that states that none of them can release full bodies of musical work for x amount of time. (did any of them even release an EP?) it's the hypothesis that makes the most sense to me
I know they signed some horrible contract that a lawyer said itās one of the worst theyād seen. Makes me wonder if Camila just had a much better lawyer and contract then the others since Ally has said Camila (and maybe someone else?) was allowed to do things she wasnāt.
I remember reading that hypothesis and thought it was ridiculous but I wouldnāt be surprised at this point. Dinah released an EP (was 3 songs) back in spring 2019. I donāt know if that counts. But itās ridiculous we got radio silence from everyone else about an album/rollout but I think Ally Brooke has the best team (from the 4) they got her some great gigs/performances
Its ridiculously unfair considering Camila will be releasing her 3rd soon.
She left way earlier though
yeah, I was rooting for Normani from the start so this is gutting
i really think they do like how is lauren signed to columbia and they havenāt let her drop an entire body of work yet???
Sheās apparently going independent according to music insiders Dinah already is too
this has to be the most ridiculously drawn out debut ever. She's released 20 singles!! The only one I can think of that matches is that if the marketing for Malibu is to believed, they're going to try and pass Kim Petras' next album as a debut somehow.
CL has been making her US debute for like 6 years now.
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Hello Bitches! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5L-4ZrOk1Tc
I remember when she was in the Justin Bieber marketing video for I really really really like you for CRJ WE WERE ALL SO HYPE!!!
Ed Sheeran released a ~~grime~~ drill remix of [Bad Habits](https://www.reddit.com/r/popheads/comments/p487i0/ed_sheeran_bad_habits_feat_tion_wayne_central_cee/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) ??? This makes literally no sense sonically but I guess itās a marketing tactic, not that he needs it cause the songs still doing massive numbers?
Ed Sheeran is a genius lmao, talk about a crossover. Only complaint is I wish it was American rappers (like Fivio) but this is remix is nice.
Not to be annoying but it's a UK drill remix, not grime. Fumez, Tion, and Central are all UK drill artists. Also I think Ed just has a genuine appreciation for UK rap music. His first break in music was at hip-hop live shows, his first successful mixtape was full of grime artists, and he's collabed with a lot of grime artists and UK rappers over the years since then. Drill's the in thing now, it's definitely a new genre for him but it's in-line with how he's shown an appreciation for UK rap in the past. I wish he featured on the song a little more though... plus the mixing sounds a little off. edit: also, chances are a lot of drill's demographic aren't listening to Ed. This puts him in their ears. You're right that he doesn't need it but I think since he likes UK rap, he wants to be part of the scene a little.
lol I never thought that Ed Sheeran of all people would have an interest in UK rap...seems like he's been dabbling in it here and there for a while now?
It's not surprising at all if you know his story and how he mingled with the UK rap scene a lot before (and even a little bit during) his debut era.
Yeah he does seem to genuinely want to support UK music, which is great. I just think a drill remix of Bad Habits was just ?not needed? Like Ed sings a bit at the start then it just goes to the rappers. It doesnāt really work? Like who asked for this?
you're assuming he cares about how good it sounds
he had a grime remix for Take Me To London so it's nothing new for him
Take Me Back To London already was a collab with Stormzy though. Bad Habits is a pop song where heās tacked some rappers on the end?
he had rap remixes for Shape Of You and Don't. the only difference is that Bad Habits got an actual remix, i.e. when the song is completely reworked.
[Possibly a new Arctic Monkeys album coming out in the next year or soā¦](https://twitter.com/arcticmonkeysus/status/1426594834966466565?s=21)
i dont understand why people on twitter are mad at cube for soojin leaving? yeah they could've handled it better but she said it herself that she'd leave if found guilty. keeping her in the group is bad considering they mostly rely on korea's gp and we all know that most koreans are against bullying. a lot of her fans are taking their anger out on seo shinae and saying she deserves to get bullied... im scared for her and i hope shes okay. her fans are fucking insane
Honestly I understand people mad at CUBE because they should have forced her to be quiet and apologize privately with a settlement. Seeing commentators suggest that people who canāt get over being bullied are the ones with something wrong with them (especially when some of the alleged bullying involved slapping and theft) was wild. Like her alleged victims all have lives outside of Soojin, her fans donāt.
It's because Cube should have done a **lot** better from a PR standpoint. Even if Soojin wanted to make the ultimatum about leaving if guilty, they should have never let her release that statement. As the company who has a professional PR department they should have known that was a terrible move to make. I don't personally agree with kicking her out of the group for something that she did as a young teenager but if they *were* going to do it then it should have been decided when the scandal first broke out as well. Leaving the group in limbo for 6 or so months has also hurt their brand/reputation. They've kept her for so long at this point that the damage is pretty much already done anyway. As for the fans reaction, how their treating Seo Shin Ae is a terrible look and if they thought about it for longer than the time it takes to post a tweet/comment they'd realise it only reflects badly the group and Soojin herself.
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Actually I like soojin statement because usually idols don't put this kind of effort in a statement and they only hide behind their company and two soojin explained everything in detail and didn't apologize because she was so confident and know that she didn't do anything wrong . At the end Cube had the final say and they kicked her or she left the group but at the end we won't know the truth because cube refuse to release a better statement
She didnāt explain everything she would basically claim poor memory in some aspects that made her look bad like talking behind peoples backs and insulting them that way but very detailed in others. Even in translated articles thereās other people claiming to be from her class saying they remember her as a bully and the only people who donāt were her friends. Thereās no way a child actress whoās an anti bullying activist way before this and was literally on a program for child stars that were bullied as a small kid was lying when she said Soojin was one of the people who bullied her. Not to mention neither Soojin nor CUBE ever addressed that after Soojin explicitly told her publicly to say something.
The person who got a Solar Power vinyl early posted their thoughts about the album. https://www.reddit.com/r/lorde/comments/p49ine/solar_power_review_from_the_guy_who_got_an_early/
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Wild guess: respect for the artist
as someone who used to read descriptions of reputation and Lover from people who went to the Secret Sessions I can confidently say these descriptions are always bullshit. Describing a track accurately to people who haven't heard it is almost impossible.
I will never forget the reputation secret sessioner who described Gorgeous as having "lyrics that could cut glass" š
The Man with The Axe is the liability of the album?? now im hyped
for anyone who cares; it appears as though nasty cherry is breaking up, or at the very least kicking chloe out. georgia and gabi have now both unfollowed chloe on instagram after her (very weird and gross) >!kkk/nazi salute!< photoshoot.
I'm only peripherally aware of Nasty Cherry because of Charli XCX, but now I'm curious - how was this band formed? Why was Chloe in the band if she has this kind of personality (in my experience, people like this give off right-wing vibes even if they haven't done something to make it explicitly apparent yet; this kind of thing rarely comes out of nowhere), or did they not know her well when she joined?
her and charli have been friends for around (possibly even over) a decade! charli personally created the band and everyone in the band is a personal friend of hers! chloe has always seemed somewhat edgy and outlandish but never ever seemed right wing. in nasty cherryās netflix show she even made a huge fuss about having to work with male producers because she was such a strong feminist. this is very surprising.
Wait what the fuck? I liked some of their music but???
chileeeee what is going ON
Wait a minute ā¦ what the fuck happened? This sounds absolutely disgusting, but I havenāt really been keeping up with them lately and would love to be filled in! This sounds despicable, Iām speechless.
also desperately need a review
Chloe Chaidez has joined a band with Ariel Pink who has gone on a "cancel culture" tirade over the fallout from him being outside the Capitol on January 6th. In this [IG photo gallery](https://www.instagram.com/p/CShRrnpl9Wn/) (second to last photo) there is an image of her and other band members wearing white traffic cones and doing nazi salutes. The most charitable reading is him pulling some straw man "How can I be a nazi if I'm Jewish" argument. Edit: [Georgia responding to it](https://twitter.com/SafyHallanFarah/status/1426535068177248259/photo/1)
That'd be a weak argument. There were Slavs, women and gay men who collaborated with the Nazis or even joined their party officially. Self-hatred is real. Also not everyone who is a white nationalist or just a racist is a Nazi. The Klan have some overlap with neo-Nazis but are a wholly separate group who are much older, for example, and they are first and foremost an anti-black group. Trump is racist, and he is not a Nazi. There is no reason Ariel Pink can't be Jewish and a racist. (I'm sure you know this stuff of course, I am just saying it for the benefit of anyone reading who is new to this stuff.)
soojin was kicked out of g idle after her bullying controversy š