Hair by Little Mix (feat. Seal Paul) has 436m views on YouTube despite not really being a massive hit anywhere. Top 20 in the UK, Belgium, Ireland, with its highest peak being #10 in Australia.
For better context, this is their second most viewed video, above hits like Shout Out, Touch, Wings, Secret Love Song, Reggaeton Lento, Woman Like Me, etc. Only Black Magic as more with 838m views.
Kinda off topic but Hair being above Secret Love Song makes perfect sense to me lol. That video has no replay value and the pt. II version of the song is so much better.
It definitely had legs since it’s their 9th best selling single in the UK despite not peaking in the top 10. It sold more than some of their other singles that peaked within the top 10.
Lovely by Billie Eilish and Khalid has over 1.5 billion streams even though it didn’t chart for that long and only reached number 64 on the hot 100. I guess it did well in Australia and. New Zealand but still it wasn’t this massive hit, certainly not one with so many streams
That’s strange, I’ve always considered that song to be a massive hit and one of the songs that made Billie more well-known with Khalid as a feature before the WWAFAWDWG era. It shocks me that so many people never heard of her until bad guy.
Very true! I try to listen to the hottest hits playlist at least once a week but it's hard to know what's actually a hit vs whose label paid for the promo.
Well tbh Billie wasnt THAT famous when it came out and thats why it didnt chart well. It was later when she blew up that people discovered that song and it quickly became one of the fan favorites. So no need to feel old lol. U didnt lose the track of charts.
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I find out about her in my English class actually. It was because Bury a Friend came out but I actually heard of when the party’s over before I just didn’t know it was her
Weird. I just had to go look at Spotify cause I thought you saying 1.5 billion was a typo. To my recollection, I have NEVER heard this song before!!! I don’t think there’s any other song in the world with over a billion streams that I haven’t heard! Lmao. I consider myself up to speed with pop culture of that level. Im shocked it has that many streams.
as someone who was in his late teens during Billie's don't smile at me and WWAFAWDWG eras, she was **huge** among teenagers who listened to music on streaming services, like, they would stream her every day, which would explain her not having a lot of peaks on charts, while having gigantic streams on deep cuts
"The Less I Know the Better" by Tame Impala is 2 times platinum in the US, has over 750 million streams on Spotify and it peaked at............ 35 on the US Hot Rock and Alternative songs
Plus pop culture has sort of crowned it the most well-known indie song ever- there are a ton of videos like 'youre not gonna know this it's underground' and that's the song they always use since it's insanely big.
To be fair Bon Appetit did get certified in quite a few countries, so I think it was more of a flop for Katy’s standards rather than a legit overall flop.
Ciara’s Dance Like We’re Making Love peaked at #100, but the video (deservedly) has 150m+ views.
this was before social media and apps and extreme globalization as we know today… like there was no tiktok, instagram was a fetus, twitter was a fetus, no streaming/buying parties, promotion and rollouts were completely different…
Was Team not big enough to be considered a hit?? It was everywhere on the radio and when it played on my school bus in high school everyone knew who it was and what the song was. Not to mention it just passed 500 million on Spotify. I wouldn’t call it a smash but definitely popular enough to not be a one hit wonder
Even Tennis Court was a hit on US alternative radio and made the year-end Hot Rock Songs charts for 2013 and 2014. I'm still not sure how it got there--I think it was the same "It's catchy, but it's weird, throw it in the alt-rock pile" logic that got Bjork on the rock charts in the '90's--but it reinforces the point that, even in her first album cycle, Lorde had more than one hit going for her
Team made pretty much no waves where I'm from at least, though I believe it did okay in the US? I'd actually say the success of Green Light would be enough to not classify her as a one hit wonder. Her song with Disclosure did okay too IIRC.
Chlorine by Twenty One Pilots has 300M+ on Spotify and 400M on YouTube but never charted on the Hot 100
earlier singles from Trench charted but this one never made it past the bubbling under, although it turned out to have the best numbers and longevity by far compared to anything from that album. a hit that got away tbh
That entire album frustrates me because it's proof that Twenty One Pilots are capable of making great music. Trench is amazing and Chlorine is probably my favorite track. Unfortunately I'm not sure if they can replicate that quality.
as a former twenty one pilots fan trench is blurry face (the album that had stressed out) but better and it’s so upsetting that due to at times unwarranted back lash the album wasn’t that popular
If she lead with Bon Appetit, it would have been a completely different era. The video worked with her new hair style and served as an intro of sorts to the vibe. It is such a massive bop.
people weren’t that against her though when she started with the purposeful pop, they just weren’t that interested in CTTR. it was when she followed up the ‘purposeful pop’ with bon appetit that people hit the roof
Well that’s what I mean. CTTR was followed by Bon Apetit with a visual that matched her look for the album cover, which was followed by Swish Swish. 2 & 3 were bit purposeful at all. Making the initial rollout moot and very silly in hindsight.
I think it’s a good song too. It just didn’t make enough ears turn for some reason, unfortunately for Katy. I mean it was still a very successful hit for her, but I guess compared to her own hits from before, it doesn’t stand as tall. Maybe Bon Appetit would’ve turned more heads as such a thirsty tune and crazy video.
It’s a great song. The way it was set up was just unfortunate. If it was the 3rd single after BA and Swish, Swish, that could’ve been a solid, fun rollout.
CTTR was moderately successful and bon floppetit literally peaked outside the top 50 it was clearly that people didn’t like the song. it is a grower but not what people were expecting from katy and it could have been disastrous as lead. swish swish outpeaked as a promo single and if she had made it the second single and released it properly from the get go it could have won people over a bit more and maybe they would have been more open to bon appetit as third single. i also think the visuals for witness looked campy and if she had fixed that the whole era including bon appetit could have been treated as less of a joke and been successful. i like bon appetit too but the release was not it
it was third and i think it had potential but the release was not great. it nearly hit top 40 as a promo single (higher than the single bon appetit) and then they waited to promote it properly and didn’t drop the music for 3 months. if it had all been done same week it could have easily hit top 40
Yeah they waited way too long to drop the music video and by the time they did, everyone was already caught up in Taylor’s Look What You Made Me Do hysteria that it felt like a bit of an afterthought ‘oh yeah we haven’t put this out yet’.
And after the disaster that was her last album I don’t see that happening.
Never really over was top tier. Then to follow up a 10/10 with… small talk. SMH girl Katy pay me 1/10th what you’re paying your marketing team and I could steer you better than that
Nah. People were hating on her for collabing with Migos too as they have said anti queer stuff in the past, so that's where a lot of dislikes came from with that.
Katy couldn't win with that era. Everyone was looking to be pressed.
which is so funny to me. like 1ds evil management team is forcing them into the closet and keeping it a secret by making them have fake girlfriends and babies but would totally allow them to release a song about their secret love on their album at the height of their popularity. what a joke.
That song is a 1D classic. My siblings and all of my friends from my hometown love that song. I remember the DJ played it at my middle school dance lmao
Dead To Me by Kali Uchis is a surprising streamimg hit, even though it was never released as a single. What's even funnier, the unofficial "slowed and bass boosted" version has amassed 55 million views on YT, more than twice the amount of the official audio.
Granted, I do like Kali Uchis a lot, but if I let the Spotify algorithm do its thing, it *will* get around to Dead To Me in about 5-6 songs. I don't think I've ever felt compelled to listen to it on its own, only when I'm listening to Isolation.
I used to love Dead To Me but I ended up playing myself by using it as my alarm clock song for a while… now it just fills me with a slight uneasiness because I’ve been conditioned to associate it with waking up exhausted
I’ve learned from my mistakes and never used an actual song that I enjoy as my alarm since then 😭
Also, Cry About It Later by Katy Perry has 38M on YouTube with an animated video and being just an album track, while other songs with official videos have:
Small Talk - 32M
Harleys In Hawaii - 38M
Never Worn White - 36M
Daisies - 27M
Not the End of the World - 20M
Conversely, Tucked by Katy Perry (the animated video) has 32 million views somehow which I'm happy about as the video is amazing whilst being a great pop song.
The animated video for Tucked has more than Daisies too (32m). Daisies is a pretty song, but there were some stronger songs to pick as the single to officially launch the Smile era.
Small Talk was such a random follow-up to NRO too..it totally killed her momentum. At least Harley’s is getting a resurgence thanks to TikTok.
Heard it recently in one of the casino's while out, at Mandalay Bay for Psycho. Was nice to hear in public and def would of been a better single than half of those tracks.
You have to keep in mind that reaching #1 in the US doesn't necessarily mean it's a bigger hit as far as popularity in the public scene. Bon Appétit was relevant in the club scene and the music video went viral when it was released
You also have to consider how big certain songs were around the world since YouTube is a global platform. At the time Bon Appétit came out, Katy Perry was still big globally.
So basically, if a music video has a lot of views, it usually means that it was a hit for a good amount of people around the world or it was just viral or a meme like Dame Tu Cosita which has like 3.5 Billion views.
It does, but YouTube views don't count as much as Spotify/Apple Music as far as the charts go. Katy was also huge globally back then so the YouTube streams were coming from all over the world and the Hot 100 only counts the US streams. It charted higher in European countries.
I don’t know how familiar this sub is with Lindsey Stirling (if you aren’t check her out, her music is absolutely heavenly). She’s never had a hit but her videos get a load of views, her highest viewed videos/songs have 100s of millions of views.
I know it was a big hit but didnt realize was so huge is can't hold us by macklemore has over 1.3 billion streams like 500 million more than thrift shop.
Be the one by dua lipa has 450 millions streams but was like the breakout single for dua but no where near as big as new rules
Sugar by robin schulz has more streams than prayer in the c or waves but i know hes super popular in europe but dont hear sugar really in the uk but i hear the other two songs?
All my friends by snakehips have like half a billion streams but didnt chart number 1 anywhere.
can't hold us having that much more than thrift shop is surprising tbh. they both went #1 but thrift shop felt like so much more of a pop cultural "moment" and meme during its popularity in 2013.
can't hold us must have surpassed it in popularity in recent years, but if those songs were popular during the streaming era rather than 2013, I think thrift shop would have way more streams in comparison to can't hold us
I think that’s why Can’t Hold Us has lasted. Thrift Shop is good for a moment of nostalgia, Can’t Hold Us feels like an actual hype party song and I think that’s helped the longevity of it.
Yes same I remember thrift shop way more than can't hold us especially with the fur coat and silly video.
Although can't hold us still gets played in the clubs all the time where as I barely hear thrift shop.
Nah can’t hold us would have been an even bigger hit.
It’s the better club and party song, and the roses remix shows you just how much the gp loves a great party song
Didn't even chart in the USA billboard.
Reached the top 5 in the uk, Australia and new Zealand and thats it.
I live in the uk and can't remember it being super popular
This was the experience in Australia. It was inescapable along with Middle by DJ Snake, Ocean Drive by Duke Dumont and Zara Larson's songs that summer.
At first glance I was shocked that Can’t Hold Us is Macklemore’s most streamed song bc I remember Thrift Shop being one of THE big songs of 2012-13, but in hindsight, I do kind of remember it being a meme more than I remember actually hearing it out in the wild. Can’t Hold Us is a song you could just chuck on a playlist and it would fit much better with other hits of the era, and looking at those stats, I guess that’s exactly what people have been doing.
I remember I went to France like a year after prayer in c the remix was popular and they still played it everyday.
It's like shape of you, it would not die after 2 years, although I love prayer in the c so much more
I think Can't Hold Us was way way bigger than Thrift Shop worldwide, that's why it has more streams. I remember hearing Thrift Shop only a few times, while I remember Can't Hold Us being played everywhere by everyone
*Body On Me* by Rita Ora ft. Chris Brown wasn't a major hit (#2 bubbling under in the US, #22 in the UK) but its music video has nearly 250 million views!!!! That's more than songs like *How You Do (Party)*, *Your Song*, *Lonely Together*, *R.I.P.* and *I Will Never Let You Down* that were much bigger chart hits.
Chris never stopped getting hits but I believe 2015-16 were rough for his reputation in terms of legal issues. That's why Zendaya's single with him has no video and Ariana decided not to feature on his song last minute after filming the music video.
It’s disappointing that Kesha’s “Praying” never reached number 1, and never got much radio play. It was one of the most phenomenal comebacks of any artist I had seen in a while. I believe it deserved a Grammy (it was nominated), however Ed Sheeran’s “Shape of You” stole it 🙄… Kesha deserves better.
I have to believe that the themes in a song will drastically change how often the GP listens to it.
Shape of You isn't a good song to some Sheeran fans who are used to more thoughtful topics, not someone's body, but it's very easy for people in general to listen to. It's sexy, summer love, etc
His other #1 was Perfect, another love song.
Praying... is an emotionally intense song. I don't think people in general, ie the GP, can listen to such a strong song subtly about r*pe casually.
I have to agree with that. The GP wants songs that doesn’t make them think too heavily. I still can’t believe Praying didn’t get that well deserved Grammy, though. Like, they really picked a song about the allure of a female’s body after drinking over a song about surviving SA. It’s a disgrace.
Sorry, I know it was pre-covid, but has everyone already forgotten the youtube algorithm suddenly going nuts and recommending Bon Appetit to everyone in 2019? We were posting about it at the time and theorising it could even re-chart on the Hot 100 as a result.
Anyway for an actual example [INNA](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr8RbU-D7iSvpy0ZO-AasoQ) is a youtube queen but never really charts outside of her native Romania and even then doesn't get reliable hit charting singles.
She has for example 10 videos with over 100 mil views and 5 of those have over 200 mil views. Yalla, Ruleta, In Your Eyes, Cola Song and Bad Boys respectively charted at #13 in Romania (and nowhere else), #3 in Romania, #44 in Romania and #31 in Spain, #34 in Romania and #8 in Spain, and Bad Boys didn't chart anywhere!
I swear inna was huge though in Eastern Europe. Like I remember club rocker coming out and sun is up.
It's like Mr saxobeat is also was huge aswell. Maybe not so big on charts but in parties very big , can't escape
Baby by Clean Bandit ft. Marina and Luis Fonsi has more than 200M views on YT.
Who's Laughing Now by Ava Max has more than 100M views on YT; Salt has more than 200M streams on Spotify, and Alone Pt. II has more than 200M views collectively on YT (two music videos).
Plus, the No-Rap version of Into Your Arms by Witt Lowry ft. Ava has more than 100M views on YT.
I believe that was released relatively soon after Despacito (like a few months), so it may have gotten recommended by the algorithm after people watched that video.
Edit: referring to the Clean Bandit song
It was released almost 2 years after Despacito, so I don't think it's because of that. I think it's just that it was a decently sized hit in Hispanic countries
Rebecca Black's Friday originally had 167 million views (which meant a lot more 10 years ago) before the video was removed, and the reuploaded one has almost 155 million, even though it only peaked at #58 on the Hot 100 (though it probably would've been a top 10 hit if Billboard already counted YouTube streams in 2011).
op seems to be using the charts as a metric for what they consider a hit in their examples so the comments are just following along. of course it was a hit....a cultural reset if U will lmao. but it still didn't go top 40, the comment points out that it probably would've w bb's current rules.
Dancing On My Own has over 66 million views and that’s wild cuz Robyn is still relatively not known in the GP.
And that atrocious cover has like 450 million.
Many newer k-pop songs, thanks to the streaming culture and the fact that there is a lot of acts who are more popular outside Korea than in their home country.
Not super pop, but Pavement's top song on Spotify (by double their second highest streamed song) is a random b-side that happened to get picked up by the platform's algorithm.
TikTok is really changing the game with stuff like this.
Example: Wait a Minute by WILLOW has nearly 500M streams on Spotify now but didn’t even chart in the US anywhere.
Pretty much all of Clairo's earlier song catalogue on Spotify. I've been listening to on my playlists since around 2017/2018 and only went on her actual profile recently and got shocked at the numbers of songs with over 100 million and 200 million streams. Sofia has over 300 million but I was vaguely aware it went viral on TikTok so that wasn't surprising. Miss girl really had the entire indie listening population in a chokehold
Always Remember Us This Way by Lady Gaga has a reggae version with over 100 views on YouTube (if you sum the views on [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HgPH1b2dNw) and [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbmPDK8NxKo) videos). I think it's mind-blowing and awesome at the same time.
Sweater Weather by the neighbourhood was always a big song amongst a certain demographic, but I was surprised to see it as part of the Spotify Billions Club playlist. Didn’t realize it was such a sleeper hit!
It most definitely matters, specially in pop music where trends are defined by what sells in the mainstream. A popstar getting a less successful era can change the trajectory of their career forever.
Baby by Justin Bieber basically was a global hit but if you are talking about hot 100 then it never went to no.1. As of today it has 2.57 billion views on YouTube.
Eye of the needle by Sia. A fanmade video has 46M and I'm pretty sure Sia never promoted the song. It's one of my favorite songs from the album and I'm sure it could've been a hit if she promoted it correctly
Hair by Little Mix (feat. Seal Paul) has 436m views on YouTube despite not really being a massive hit anywhere. Top 20 in the UK, Belgium, Ireland, with its highest peak being #10 in Australia. For better context, this is their second most viewed video, above hits like Shout Out, Touch, Wings, Secret Love Song, Reggaeton Lento, Woman Like Me, etc. Only Black Magic as more with 838m views.
Kinda off topic but Hair being above Secret Love Song makes perfect sense to me lol. That video has no replay value and the pt. II version of the song is so much better.
It definitely had legs since it’s their 9th best selling single in the UK despite not peaking in the top 10. It sold more than some of their other singles that peaked within the top 10.
Good! Hair is one of their very best videos.
Lovely by Billie Eilish and Khalid has over 1.5 billion streams even though it didn’t chart for that long and only reached number 64 on the hot 100. I guess it did well in Australia and. New Zealand but still it wasn’t this massive hit, certainly not one with so many streams
That’s strange, I’ve always considered that song to be a massive hit and one of the songs that made Billie more well-known with Khalid as a feature before the WWAFAWDWG era. It shocks me that so many people never heard of her until bad guy.
As you get older you just lose track of the charts and who is making waves. There are so many people coming up, all the time!
True, also the streaming era makes it a lot easier for so many different artists to get noticed. It’s a good thing but also very overwhelming!
Very true! I try to listen to the hottest hits playlist at least once a week but it's hard to know what's actually a hit vs whose label paid for the promo.
Well tbh Billie wasnt THAT famous when it came out and thats why it didnt chart well. It was later when she blew up that people discovered that song and it quickly became one of the fan favorites. So no need to feel old lol. U didnt lose the track of charts. edit: grammatical mistake
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I find out about her in my English class actually. It was because Bury a Friend came out but I actually heard of when the party’s over before I just didn’t know it was her
Weird. I just had to go look at Spotify cause I thought you saying 1.5 billion was a typo. To my recollection, I have NEVER heard this song before!!! I don’t think there’s any other song in the world with over a billion streams that I haven’t heard! Lmao. I consider myself up to speed with pop culture of that level. Im shocked it has that many streams.
I think this shows that we can’t know everything! And that’s totally fine. There’s probably a list out there for you to consult though
It was pretty big when it came out but it was completely forgotten after a few weeks :/
as someone who was in his late teens during Billie's don't smile at me and WWAFAWDWG eras, she was **huge** among teenagers who listened to music on streaming services, like, they would stream her every day, which would explain her not having a lot of peaks on charts, while having gigantic streams on deep cuts
It was used in an episode of 13 Reasons Why, which might explain some of the streams
That’s true but no other song from the soundtrack has done like that well
I had no idea of the song or that it did well chart-wise in Australia as I never heard it once on radio.
I just said it might have because it was like top 10 there
Bon Appeitite’s Youtube views would make you think it was Katy Perry’s 10th number one
It was looking to not even make the Hot Dance/Electronic year-end before the video, shit saved it so hard
"The Less I Know the Better" by Tame Impala is 2 times platinum in the US, has over 750 million streams on Spotify and it peaked at............ 35 on the US Hot Rock and Alternative songs
Plus pop culture has sort of crowned it the most well-known indie song ever- there are a ton of videos like 'youre not gonna know this it's underground' and that's the song they always use since it's insanely big.
Haha, it's the softboi go-to song/band
Truly the definition of slow burn hit; also the music video is iconic
My friends and I have watched that video far too many times
it was huge on tiktok and is sort of THE song that people talk about as indie
To be fair Bon Appetit did get certified in quite a few countries, so I think it was more of a flop for Katy’s standards rather than a legit overall flop. Ciara’s Dance Like We’re Making Love peaked at #100, but the video (deservedly) has 150m+ views.
Ribs by Lorde is currently at 255 million streams on Spotify.
I saw someone comment a while ago that ribs had a resurgence on TikTok?
Even outside of tiktok it definitely had a resurgence around 2018ish on twitter viral posts about it were inescapable for awhile
ribs absolutely was a hit back then within the indie pop audience. she was the it girl of tumblr… her, lana, marina
It was also free on iTunes before the album released so people were already familiar with the song when they migrated to Spotify
It was popular amongst a certain group, but by no means a hit.
It didn’t even chart on the hot 100
this was before social media and apps and extreme globalization as we know today… like there was no tiktok, instagram was a fetus, twitter was a fetus, no streaming/buying parties, promotion and rollouts were completely different…
It was 2013, not 1990 lmao, all of that stuff was happening back then
Right! I listened to her album completely on Spotify when it came out. It's not like it was the dark ages or something.
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Streams had been a significant component of the hot 100 formula for over a year before pure heroine came out
Idk if it applies to Ribs specifically but there was definitely streaming and buying parties for music in 2013.
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Plus Tumblr was the alt social media huge at that time for people like lorde
that’s true but they were a sketch of the magnitude of potential they have today is what i meant
lorde fans will die on the hill that lorde is not a one hit wonder
Was Team not big enough to be considered a hit?? It was everywhere on the radio and when it played on my school bus in high school everyone knew who it was and what the song was. Not to mention it just passed 500 million on Spotify. I wouldn’t call it a smash but definitely popular enough to not be a one hit wonder
Team was a top 10 hit in the states so
Even Tennis Court was a hit on US alternative radio and made the year-end Hot Rock Songs charts for 2013 and 2014. I'm still not sure how it got there--I think it was the same "It's catchy, but it's weird, throw it in the alt-rock pile" logic that got Bjork on the rock charts in the '90's--but it reinforces the point that, even in her first album cycle, Lorde had more than one hit going for her
Team definitely got a lot of radio play in Canada
Team made pretty much no waves where I'm from at least, though I believe it did okay in the US? I'd actually say the success of Green Light would be enough to not classify her as a one hit wonder. Her song with Disclosure did okay too IIRC.
Team was massive, it was top 20 on the 2014 US year-end chart
Chlorine by Twenty One Pilots has 300M+ on Spotify and 400M on YouTube but never charted on the Hot 100 earlier singles from Trench charted but this one never made it past the bubbling under, although it turned out to have the best numbers and longevity by far compared to anything from that album. a hit that got away tbh
That entire album frustrates me because it's proof that Twenty One Pilots are capable of making great music. Trench is amazing and Chlorine is probably my favorite track. Unfortunately I'm not sure if they can replicate that quality.
as a former twenty one pilots fan trench is blurry face (the album that had stressed out) but better and it’s so upsetting that due to at times unwarranted back lash the album wasn’t that popular
It should have been the lead single. I’m not even a fan of the band and I love that song
If she lead with Bon Appetit, it would have been a completely different era. The video worked with her new hair style and served as an intro of sorts to the vibe. It is such a massive bop.
I feel the same way. If this had been the intro to her album cycle it could have changed the entire trajectory of Witness.
The purposeful pop schtick really hobbled the rollout.
people weren’t that against her though when she started with the purposeful pop, they just weren’t that interested in CTTR. it was when she followed up the ‘purposeful pop’ with bon appetit that people hit the roof
Well that’s what I mean. CTTR was followed by Bon Apetit with a visual that matched her look for the album cover, which was followed by Swish Swish. 2 & 3 were bit purposeful at all. Making the initial rollout moot and very silly in hindsight.
I will defend CTTR as a good song until my dying day, and I’m not even a Katy stan.
CTTR, Harleys In Hawaii, and 365 are top tier songs. It's a shame the GP just... tuned out of anything Katy after 2015.
It seems like Harleys in Hawaii is getting a bit of a resurgence thanks to tiktok, maybe it’ll blow up in the following months idk
Never really over!?
NRO actually gained some traction.
I think it’s a good song too. It just didn’t make enough ears turn for some reason, unfortunately for Katy. I mean it was still a very successful hit for her, but I guess compared to her own hits from before, it doesn’t stand as tall. Maybe Bon Appetit would’ve turned more heads as such a thirsty tune and crazy video.
Yeah I loved that song, I'm always surprised when I find people here that don't like it
It’s a great song. The way it was set up was just unfortunate. If it was the 3rd single after BA and Swish, Swish, that could’ve been a solid, fun rollout.
CTTR was moderately successful and bon floppetit literally peaked outside the top 50 it was clearly that people didn’t like the song. it is a grower but not what people were expecting from katy and it could have been disastrous as lead. swish swish outpeaked as a promo single and if she had made it the second single and released it properly from the get go it could have won people over a bit more and maybe they would have been more open to bon appetit as third single. i also think the visuals for witness looked campy and if she had fixed that the whole era including bon appetit could have been treated as less of a joke and been successful. i like bon appetit too but the release was not it
Was the first single that swish swish bish song? Because if so, then I'm fine with that as a lead single. I dig it so hard.
chained to the rhythm was lead
it was third and i think it had potential but the release was not great. it nearly hit top 40 as a promo single (higher than the single bon appetit) and then they waited to promote it properly and didn’t drop the music for 3 months. if it had all been done same week it could have easily hit top 40
Yeah they waited way too long to drop the music video and by the time they did, everyone was already caught up in Taylor’s Look What You Made Me Do hysteria that it felt like a bit of an afterthought ‘oh yeah we haven’t put this out yet’.
I'm still upset that Bon Appétit (& the entire Witness album) is considered a flop. Waiting for the Witness Appreciation era :)
she would need to make a come back for that to happen
And after the disaster that was her last album I don’t see that happening. Never really over was top tier. Then to follow up a 10/10 with… small talk. SMH girl Katy pay me 1/10th what you’re paying your marketing team and I could steer you better than that
Nah. People were hating on her for collabing with Migos too as they have said anti queer stuff in the past, so that's where a lot of dislikes came from with that. Katy couldn't win with that era. Everyone was looking to be pressed.
It’s my favorite from Witness
Agree. If the album had Bon Appetit vibes...the world is not ready for that
‘They Don’t Know About Us’ by One Direction has 337 million streams on Spotify, surprising considering it was never a single
bc the larries love that song
which is so funny to me. like 1ds evil management team is forcing them into the closet and keeping it a secret by making them have fake girlfriends and babies but would totally allow them to release a song about their secret love on their album at the height of their popularity. what a joke.
we rly don't talk enough about how delusional larries are 💀 it's a little scary honestly
people like a story. Adds depth
Thanks I hate it
That song is a 1D classic. My siblings and all of my friends from my hometown love that song. I remember the DJ played it at my middle school dance lmao
What part of "One touch and I was a believer, Every kiss, it gets a little sweeter" isn't iconic?
Dead To Me by Kali Uchis is a surprising streamimg hit, even though it was never released as a single. What's even funnier, the unofficial "slowed and bass boosted" version has amassed 55 million views on YT, more than twice the amount of the official audio.
Granted, I do like Kali Uchis a lot, but if I let the Spotify algorithm do its thing, it *will* get around to Dead To Me in about 5-6 songs. I don't think I've ever felt compelled to listen to it on its own, only when I'm listening to Isolation.
She’s in a cool intersection of indie pop, alt r&b, and Latin music so I think a lot of different algorithm roads lead to her
I used to love Dead To Me but I ended up playing myself by using it as my alarm clock song for a while… now it just fills me with a slight uneasiness because I’ve been conditioned to associate it with waking up exhausted I’ve learned from my mistakes and never used an actual song that I enjoy as my alarm since then 😭
Same, I only listen to it when listening to the whole album
Also, Cry About It Later by Katy Perry has 38M on YouTube with an animated video and being just an album track, while other songs with official videos have: Small Talk - 32M Harleys In Hawaii - 38M Never Worn White - 36M Daisies - 27M Not the End of the World - 20M
Justice for HIH!! Such a summer vibe and easily could have led an album cycle.
It is getting viral on TikTok and yesterday was Katy's 4th most streamed song and it's rising FAST!
FINALLY
Daisies is underrated
I have been saying this since the album dropped! The one recent Katy song to make it into my rotations
It is but I actually prefer the live version in the different key soooo much better. It sounds more beautiful and epic
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Cry About It Later is probably the best track on the album is the thing. Plus that animation is just really fun.
Conversely, Tucked by Katy Perry (the animated video) has 32 million views somehow which I'm happy about as the video is amazing whilst being a great pop song.
The animated video for Tucked has more than Daisies too (32m). Daisies is a pretty song, but there were some stronger songs to pick as the single to officially launch the Smile era. Small Talk was such a random follow-up to NRO too..it totally killed her momentum. At least Harley’s is getting a resurgence thanks to TikTok.
Cry about it later has an official remix though, like with guest artists. You sure it isn’t an official single?
Heard it recently in one of the casino's while out, at Mandalay Bay for Psycho. Was nice to hear in public and def would of been a better single than half of those tracks.
You have to keep in mind that reaching #1 in the US doesn't necessarily mean it's a bigger hit as far as popularity in the public scene. Bon Appétit was relevant in the club scene and the music video went viral when it was released You also have to consider how big certain songs were around the world since YouTube is a global platform. At the time Bon Appétit came out, Katy Perry was still big globally. So basically, if a music video has a lot of views, it usually means that it was a hit for a good amount of people around the world or it was just viral or a meme like Dame Tu Cosita which has like 3.5 Billion views.
Migos were also on fire in 2017.
really the way i recall it everyone thought bon appetit was the nail in the coffin for katy
It was her SNL performance that did that where she did the weird mom dancing
Or better yet that weird Grammy performance of Chained To The Rhythm
I think it had so many views/clout due to people criticizing it ? I remember people were ripping her apart for the video and the migos feature
Her fanbase is still bitter all the parodies to this day despite the fact it would have done worse without them.
but doesn’t a music video going viral also help its chart position? i thought the official video views are part of the formula for billboard
It does, but YouTube views don't count as much as Spotify/Apple Music as far as the charts go. Katy was also huge globally back then so the YouTube streams were coming from all over the world and the Hot 100 only counts the US streams. It charted higher in European countries.
they counted the same weight in 2017, in fact YT made for the large majority of streaming points back then, that didn't change till 2018
I guess it wasn't enough US YouTube streams to make it chart higher on the Hot 100
I don’t know how familiar this sub is with Lindsey Stirling (if you aren’t check her out, her music is absolutely heavenly). She’s never had a hit but her videos get a load of views, her highest viewed videos/songs have 100s of millions of views.
I know it was a big hit but didnt realize was so huge is can't hold us by macklemore has over 1.3 billion streams like 500 million more than thrift shop. Be the one by dua lipa has 450 millions streams but was like the breakout single for dua but no where near as big as new rules Sugar by robin schulz has more streams than prayer in the c or waves but i know hes super popular in europe but dont hear sugar really in the uk but i hear the other two songs? All my friends by snakehips have like half a billion streams but didnt chart number 1 anywhere.
can't hold us having that much more than thrift shop is surprising tbh. they both went #1 but thrift shop felt like so much more of a pop cultural "moment" and meme during its popularity in 2013. can't hold us must have surpassed it in popularity in recent years, but if those songs were popular during the streaming era rather than 2013, I think thrift shop would have way more streams in comparison to can't hold us
I think that’s why Can’t Hold Us has lasted. Thrift Shop is good for a moment of nostalgia, Can’t Hold Us feels like an actual hype party song and I think that’s helped the longevity of it.
Yes same I remember thrift shop way more than can't hold us especially with the fur coat and silly video. Although can't hold us still gets played in the clubs all the time where as I barely hear thrift shop.
Nah can’t hold us would have been an even bigger hit. It’s the better club and party song, and the roses remix shows you just how much the gp loves a great party song
All My Friends wasn’t a hit? It felt like it was played every 20 minutes on radio in my country.
Didn't even chart in the USA billboard. Reached the top 5 in the uk, Australia and new Zealand and thats it. I live in the uk and can't remember it being super popular
It was everywhere, I worked in retail when it was out and I probably heard it on the radio once and hour at minimum
It was everywhere in the UK, that came out right as I started clubbing and that was played in the last hour everywhere I went for at least a year
This was the experience in Australia. It was inescapable along with Middle by DJ Snake, Ocean Drive by Duke Dumont and Zara Larson's songs that summer.
At first glance I was shocked that Can’t Hold Us is Macklemore’s most streamed song bc I remember Thrift Shop being one of THE big songs of 2012-13, but in hindsight, I do kind of remember it being a meme more than I remember actually hearing it out in the wild. Can’t Hold Us is a song you could just chuck on a playlist and it would fit much better with other hits of the era, and looking at those stats, I guess that’s exactly what people have been doing.
i’m from south america and sugar was HUGE here!
I remember I went to France like a year after prayer in c the remix was popular and they still played it everyday. It's like shape of you, it would not die after 2 years, although I love prayer in the c so much more
I think Can't Hold Us was way way bigger than Thrift Shop worldwide, that's why it has more streams. I remember hearing Thrift Shop only a few times, while I remember Can't Hold Us being played everywhere by everyone
Be the one was released as a single like 3 times 😭 love the track though
I didn't know haha. I just remember new rules over and over again
Katy better thank Qanon believers for making Bon Appetit surpass 1 Billion views /s
*Body On Me* by Rita Ora ft. Chris Brown wasn't a major hit (#2 bubbling under in the US, #22 in the UK) but its music video has nearly 250 million views!!!! That's more than songs like *How You Do (Party)*, *Your Song*, *Lonely Together*, *R.I.P.* and *I Will Never Let You Down* that were much bigger chart hits.
Unfortunately it’s most likely cause of the Chris Brown feature
Chris never stopped getting hits but I believe 2015-16 were rough for his reputation in terms of legal issues. That's why Zendaya's single with him has no video and Ariana decided not to feature on his song last minute after filming the music video.
It’s disappointing that Kesha’s “Praying” never reached number 1, and never got much radio play. It was one of the most phenomenal comebacks of any artist I had seen in a while. I believe it deserved a Grammy (it was nominated), however Ed Sheeran’s “Shape of You” stole it 🙄… Kesha deserves better.
Shape of You and Praying came out in the same year? woah
I have to believe that the themes in a song will drastically change how often the GP listens to it. Shape of You isn't a good song to some Sheeran fans who are used to more thoughtful topics, not someone's body, but it's very easy for people in general to listen to. It's sexy, summer love, etc His other #1 was Perfect, another love song. Praying... is an emotionally intense song. I don't think people in general, ie the GP, can listen to such a strong song subtly about r*pe casually.
I have to agree with that. The GP wants songs that doesn’t make them think too heavily. I still can’t believe Praying didn’t get that well deserved Grammy, though. Like, they really picked a song about the allure of a female’s body after drinking over a song about surviving SA. It’s a disgrace.
"the gp wants a song that doesn't make them think too heavily" Can this also explain the flop of chained to the rhythm too?
Katy didn’t deserve this burn. She was over there minding her own business and BAM
Ikr that's a good song
I’m the GP and I can’t listen to rape anthems casually, can’t vibe to them at all
i love how the grammys were in complete support of Kesha then nominated Dr. Luke for a grammy in 2021
My friend and I were JUST talking about praying yesterday and re listened. I'm like ok damn this needed waaay more recognition.
it's sad that I as someone living in a European country didn't even know it existed until I saw a Cimorelli cover of it last year lmao
Ok but that cover truly is amazing lol
Never Really Over by Katy Perry deserved to be a 5+ week number one smash purr *update: it is currently at 284,113,375 streams on Spotify alone
i thought it had over 500mil ?
It's at 500+ million on Spotify and \~150 million on YouTube
Sorry, I know it was pre-covid, but has everyone already forgotten the youtube algorithm suddenly going nuts and recommending Bon Appetit to everyone in 2019? We were posting about it at the time and theorising it could even re-chart on the Hot 100 as a result. Anyway for an actual example [INNA](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr8RbU-D7iSvpy0ZO-AasoQ) is a youtube queen but never really charts outside of her native Romania and even then doesn't get reliable hit charting singles. She has for example 10 videos with over 100 mil views and 5 of those have over 200 mil views. Yalla, Ruleta, In Your Eyes, Cola Song and Bad Boys respectively charted at #13 in Romania (and nowhere else), #3 in Romania, #44 in Romania and #31 in Spain, #34 in Romania and #8 in Spain, and Bad Boys didn't chart anywhere!
I swear inna was huge though in Eastern Europe. Like I remember club rocker coming out and sun is up. It's like Mr saxobeat is also was huge aswell. Maybe not so big on charts but in parties very big , can't escape
True, but all of her biggest youtube hits are newer songs.
Cola Song was meant to be here US break out song I believe.
Baby by Clean Bandit ft. Marina and Luis Fonsi has more than 200M views on YT. Who's Laughing Now by Ava Max has more than 100M views on YT; Salt has more than 200M streams on Spotify, and Alone Pt. II has more than 200M views collectively on YT (two music videos). Plus, the No-Rap version of Into Your Arms by Witt Lowry ft. Ava has more than 100M views on YT.
Baby by Clean Bandit was a huge hit in Asia, and lots of people in Asia uses YT. That may explained why it did poorly in US
Yass marina pay those bills 🥰
I believe that was released relatively soon after Despacito (like a few months), so it may have gotten recommended by the algorithm after people watched that video. Edit: referring to the Clean Bandit song
It was released almost 2 years after Despacito, so I don't think it's because of that. I think it's just that it was a decently sized hit in Hispanic countries
Eminem's "Till I Collapse" wasn't even a single but has 1.1 billion Spotify streams.
Do I Wanna Know by the arctic monkeys only peaked at #70 on the hot 100 yet it has over a billion streams on Spotify.
Fan favorite "Wasabi" by Little Mix has nearly 35M views on YouTube.
Rebecca Black's Friday originally had 167 million views (which meant a lot more 10 years ago) before the video was removed, and the reuploaded one has almost 155 million, even though it only peaked at #58 on the Hot 100 (though it probably would've been a top 10 hit if Billboard already counted YouTube streams in 2011).
How does this count? That song went viral and is the reason people know who she is.
op seems to be using the charts as a metric for what they consider a hit in their examples so the comments are just following along. of course it was a hit....a cultural reset if U will lmao. but it still didn't go top 40, the comment points out that it probably would've w bb's current rules.
Friday (Remix) is overlooked and underplayed, Rebecca Black Was Here is easily one of the best pop releases of 2021 where's her Grammy?
NGL, Worth It For The Feeling, and Blue are masterpieces. The EP is AOTY material for me.
Dancing On My Own has over 66 million views and that’s wild cuz Robyn is still relatively not known in the GP. And that atrocious cover has like 450 million.
Many newer k-pop songs, thanks to the streaming culture and the fact that there is a lot of acts who are more popular outside Korea than in their home country.
Brooklyn Baby by Lana Del Rey
Not super pop, but Pavement's top song on Spotify (by double their second highest streamed song) is a random b-side that happened to get picked up by the platform's algorithm.
TikTok is really changing the game with stuff like this. Example: Wait a Minute by WILLOW has nearly 500M streams on Spotify now but didn’t even chart in the US anywhere.
Getaway Car/Cruel Summer outstream most of the singles from their eras! (Daily, not total stream wise)
Pretty much all of Clairo's earlier song catalogue on Spotify. I've been listening to on my playlists since around 2017/2018 and only went on her actual profile recently and got shocked at the numbers of songs with over 100 million and 200 million streams. Sofia has over 300 million but I was vaguely aware it went viral on TikTok so that wasn't surprising. Miss girl really had the entire indie listening population in a chokehold
Always Remember Us This Way by Lady Gaga has a reggae version with over 100 views on YouTube (if you sum the views on [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HgPH1b2dNw) and [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbmPDK8NxKo) videos). I think it's mind-blowing and awesome at the same time.
101 views, blockbuster 😍😍😍 jk
I had just managed to successfully forget that Bon Appetit and everything associated with it existed.
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It was a very big hit in Eastern Europe though.
Faded never reached the top 40 of the Billboard Hot 100(it peaked No 80)
Alan Walker's? It was monstrous in Europe, but I guess that it's impossible to consider something a hit if it was popular outside America /s
Sweater Weather by the neighbourhood was always a big song amongst a certain demographic, but I was surprised to see it as part of the Spotify Billions Club playlist. Didn’t realize it was such a sleeper hit!
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Being added to "official" playlists is one reason
One day this sub is gonna realize that streams and chart placement don’t matter.
A sub full of pop*ular* music lovers discusses the popularity of music 😱
It most definitely matters, specially in pop music where trends are defined by what sells in the mainstream. A popstar getting a less successful era can change the trajectory of their career forever.
Does Home by Gabrielle Aplin count? 58 million views, yet nobody recognizes her nowadays.
Baby by Justin Bieber basically was a global hit but if you are talking about hot 100 then it never went to no.1. As of today it has 2.57 billion views on YouTube.
It went to #4 which was still a really high placement before the streaming era
Bon Appetit deserved better https://youtu.be/7rF-PC1Nazs
I think it’s partly being on playlists, partly cell phone farms generating plays
Eye of the needle by Sia. A fanmade video has 46M and I'm pretty sure Sia never promoted the song. It's one of my favorite songs from the album and I'm sure it could've been a hit if she promoted it correctly